The VIP Thread

[Miotch]

Atty made some pretty valid points about there being a use for this thread, so we're going to start from scratch with a whole new one.

This thread is for rambling discussion about WRESTLING. I'm sure it will inadvertently go off topic now and again, but this is NOT the VIP thread. Please keep that in mind. The point of this thread is for wrestling discussion. There are multiple forums for other conversations. You should use them.

So yeah, Wrestlmania is around the corner. Talk about that or something.

[Vice]

I like it when WWE gets new authority figures that have no business being in power coming in and trying to make all kinds of changes and be taken seriously. It always provides a lot of entertainment, especially when they know absolutely nothing about what they're trying to be in charge of.

http://i.imgur.com/YrJ0Ac5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/n7C1VWF.png

[Bennedy]

Mike Adamle was brilliant. I think Brad Maddox could be a bit like him, but 100 times more cooler.

[Atty]

Adamle was actually brilliant for that very reason. He had no business there and that's a simple way to get heat. Like when a boss promotes his son to a position not based on merits alone. Makes you hate the chap. Worked well with Stephanie to get heat in 2000.

[Miotch]

Evidently Vice REALLY wants a break.

[Jay]

Evidently Vice REALLY wants a break.It was a ramble and it was wrestling related, unlike your post, Miotch Adamle.


Mike Adamle was brilliant. I think Brad Maddox could be a bit like him, but 100 times more cooler.Try 1,000,000 times more cooler. Maddox is the man.

[Kev]

I've been thinking about what Bendis did with New Avengers, he put Spiderman and Wolverine onto the Avengers and it caused a lot of controversy amongst the writers, and then the general public as Spidey had never been a team guy, and Wolverine was an X-guy... but Bendis' response was along the lines of that the best of the best (and Hawkman) were in the Justice League, and the Avengers have just gone from strength to strength ever since.

I think there's merit in creating a stables with the greatest heels and the greatest 'faces. I'm not thinking of a re-hash of old stables, but rather a slow burn that brings factions together. Perhaps a bunch of heels (Punk, Lesnar, Cesaro, Henry, Barrett) who are being DQ'd non-stop for their heelish tactics, so Punk rounds them all up and together they decide to bully their way into getting some rules changed.

Then you get a bunch of smooth talking, charismatic show-ponies to take them on. The likes of HHH, Ryback, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, Chris Jericho. They don't all have to instantly like one another, but there could be a tragedy that goes down that unites them all (the heels prey on a universally loved female like Garcia, or on a well loved veteran like Lawler or Flair) and find themselves working together as a team.

It would create great moments for PPV's like Survivor Series, the Royal Rumble & Elimination Chamber and also could lead to a Main Event match at a Wrestlemania.

I think if WWE is aiming it's marketing at a younger audience, then as a younger audience the idea of a Power Rangers-esque team would greatly appeal to 7-8 year old me.

[Tainted Eclipse]

I like it when WWE gets new authority figures that have no business being in power coming in and trying to make all kinds of changes and be taken seriously. It always provides a lot of entertainment, especially when they know absolutely nothing about what they're trying to be in charge of.

http://i.imgur.com/YrJ0Ac5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/n7C1VWF.png

wait was vice really banned for this

[G-Fresh]

Yup. He pissed off the reptilian elite.

[Judas Iscariot]

He also created a bunch of bullshit spam threads early this morning, which I can vouch for as I responded to at least one of them.

[Tainted Eclipse]

yeah but lol at this being "the breaking point!!!" also the threads yeah sure, but its still dumb to ban a major member for a little petulant outburst. the interplay between regular posters and the staff on this forum continues to be baffling and stupid.

[G-Fresh]

I blame the Mexicans.

[MOSHanTHRASHER]

Great stuff from The Dazzler and a special appearance from one of my all time favorites Steve Blackman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCetPAiozPs&list=PL1wKL2RP6T-ZrfN94YgWm0YMA_bgfNYhE&index=1

[Mills]

The Dazzler is amazing

[Atty]

Is that a regular segment? If so, I love it. Cole and JBL have solid chemistry.

[G-Fresh]

Cole gets way too much hate. He seems like a genuinely good dude.

[JP]

The interview with Michael Cole on the main page is outstanding.

[Judas Iscariot]

I agree. Makes me like and respect Cole a whole lot more.

[chatty]

Speaking of the Dazzler and bears:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v96d9NLMaFs&feature=youtu.be

[firewall]

That was amazing. I bear-ly made it through it without dampening my trousers.

[Peter Griffin]

Watching Royal Rumble 89 with 'The posedown' between Rude and Warrior goes on wayyyyyyyyy to long. And now Heenan is applying baby oil to Rude, possibly the gayest segment in the history of wrestling.

[Beer-Belly]

Gayer than the Steiner/Triple H posedown? That's quite the accomplishment.

[The Law]

Watching Royal Rumble 89 with 'The posedown' between Rude and Warrior goes on wayyyyyyyyy to long. And now Heenan is applying baby oil to Rude, possibly the gayest segment in the history of wrestling.

Don't forget Lex Luger's debut in 1992. He was all oiled up and posing and Heenan sounded like he was jerking off while talking. Not sure what it is about the Royal Rumble and these segments.

[JP]

Oh come lads, Pro Wrestling is essentially two almost full naked, oiled up men grappling for supremacy.

It is the most homo-erotic thing on the planet.

[Peter Griffin]

Rajah Forums just got a tweet from Dolph Ziggler :hyper:

But not that big of a deal as I got a tweet from Regal last night :hyper: :hyper:

[JP]

Regal's fantastic at getting back to people when he thinks they're interesting or funny. Had a back and forth with him a while ago about the similarities between the 'queenie' characteristics in the theatre and pro wrestling, the man is really sharp.

Got a DM from Mick Foley which temporarily caused me to lose my mind.

[takerson]

Speaking of the Dazzler and bears:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v96d9NLMaFs&feature=youtu.be

I just died. haha. SO funny. Also.... Cesaro did his ROH big swing... I wonder how long he kept it going.

[JP]

CM Punk ‏@CMPunk 1m
Time to let the cat out of the bag! @LivingColour will be playing me to and from the ring Sunday at #Wrestlemaina.
#cultofpersonality

Pretty cool.

[Hero!]

Jfgdhxjqhandvsmwgyabsfavaj !!!!!!!!!!

[QuoteTheRaven]

Oh come lads, Pro Wrestling is essentially two almost full naked, oiled up men grappling for supremacy.

It is the most homo-erotic thing on the planet.

They don't even have to be almost naked. Viscera's finishing move was to push his opponent's shit in so far it would pool in his shoulders and he'd be unable to kick out.

[Newf]

Speaking of the Dazzler and bears:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v96d9NLMaFs&feature=youtu.be

I came here to post a different video but this distracted me. His EXCITEMENT over the bear hug is just amazing.

Oh yeah, the video I came here to post... if you ever wanted to see AJ squats and deadlift in yoga pants:

http://youtu.be/gpGJQrh_z0s

[DDT]

Speaking of the Dazzler and bears:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v96d9NLMaFs&feature=youtu.be

Wait, is this that Saturday show? The hell have I been missing?

[Atty]

Daniel Bryan is the greatest thing in the company. He should be wrestling a bear at Mania. Could Big E wear a bear suit, maybe?

[chatty]

I think they just throw random stuff at Bryan and say lets see if you can run with that.

Your only allowed to say yes. make that work? OK

Your gonna work a segment with kane where you fight over AJ who wont be included much and go to anger anagement. make that work? OK

Your only allowed to talk about bears. make that work? OK

[JP]

Wasn't the whole Bear thing his own creation, along with the whole Dazzler shabang?

[Hero!]

Bought my bright yellow GTS shirt today. Now I'm ready for WRESTLEMANIA

[Mills]

The dazzler was all Bryan. I thought the bear thing was a joke but then I saw it on the JBL/Cole show too. Im not sure what's goibg on, but it HAS to continue

[mth]

Wasn't the whole Bear thing his own creation, along with the whole Dazzler shabang?

The Dazzler stuff definitely is his own thing. The bear thing probably is, too, as he's really only doing it in places where he's probably allowed to improvise.

[Excel]

CM Punk drops an F Bomb to the Smarks who dislike the Paul Bearer angle...

Edit: Starts at 8:30


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EqYTL1V9giE#t=496s

[Defrost]

Coming soon and by soon I mean Sunday Morning. Probably really early Sunday Morning because I''ll be up watching wrestling at an ungodly hour. Anyway coming Sunday the 2013 DRS2EBRaSAGG Wrestlemania Special! Featuring rapping, cosplay, and jingoism.

[Cewsh]

YUS

[One Man Gang]

Coming soon and by soon I mean Sunday Morning. Probably really early Sunday Morning because I''ll be up watching wrestling at an ungodly hour. Anyway coming Sunday the 2013 DRS2EBRaSAGG Wrestlemania Special! Featuring rapping, cosplay, and jingoism.


YUS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhctIj6iCDU

[Bert]

CM Punk drops an F Bomb to the Smarks who dislike the Paul Bearer angle...

Edit: Starts at 8:30


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EqYTL1V9giE#t=496s

And that's the only heel turn from Cena we will ever see.

[Beer-Belly]

Then they've made him look like a desperate twat in this build-up for no reason.

[Atty]

I seriously want to punch Cena for that heel turn joke.


Mark Henry is marvelous in his interview. Punk too.

[Tainted Eclipse]

hahahaha, big mark's voice coming out of nowhere during that punk segment

[Defrost]

So what shows are people watching around here of the 9 million iPPVs and what not. I'm thinking Kaiju Big Battel myself

[Hero!]

CM Punk with dat fuck you.

Yes. I am so beyond pumped right now.

[Tempest]

Great video. I love stuff like that. Thye keep character but give you that little bit more

[Newf]

And that's the only heel turn from Cena we will ever see.


Then they've made him look like a desperate twat in this build-up for no reason.

You don't actually expect him to come out and say "This Sunday you're gonna see some changes to my character" or even "In the coming months things could change", do you? Rosenberg himself said that Cena's the consummate company man. He'll wink and nod and talk about "turning heel" just to get peoples gears going, but if anything him claiming that he won't will only make it that much more impactful if and when he does cuz he'll have worked the marks and the smarks (or at least most of them.)

[Hero!]

https://www.shirtpunch.com/

GO GET NOW

[mth]

That drawing of Taker looks kind of bad.

[Atty]

You could draw one and submit it to the site. ;)

[Rip]

That 'taker is awful, honestly mth you could make a killing if that's the competition.

[Hero!]

Almost there lads. Done with classes for the weekend and now i'm in full on OMFG MANIA mode


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMCgrLIM6Z8

LET'S DO THIS SHIT.

[Psycho666Soldier]

FUCKING RIGHT! It's WrestleMania time, people! IT'S TIME TO BE FUCKING PUMPED!!

http://x31.xanga.com/442f913109330278331176/b221705160.gif

[Badger]

Mon the Dolph, cash that bad boy in!

[Psycho666Soldier]

MON THE MOTHEFUCKING DOLPH!! HE BETTER CASH IN TONIGHT! I WILL EXPLODE WITH SEXUAL EXCITEMENT!!!!

I'll share the seed with the forum.

[Hero!]

ZIGGLAH FOR CHAMPPPPPPP

[Bert]

MON THE MOTHEFUCKING DOLPH!! HE BETTER CASH IN TONIGHT! I WILL EXPLODE WITH SEXUAL EXCITEMENT!!!!

I'll share the seed with the forum.

Tonight is saturday.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I'M SO EXCITED I THINK ITS SUNDAY

[JP]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!

[mth]

I'm gonna be the guy that says Ziggler doesn't cash in at Mania.

[Judas Iscariot]

Yeah he's probably not. Because I don't expect it to ever happen, if he does it I'll be through the roof.

[Defrost]

This show all all about FAN DAN GO

[mth]

You're not letting the A's breathe.

[virms]

Must admit. Not overly excited about mania this year. Hopefully that means it will be above my expectations.

[Hero!]

BLUAGAHAHAHGAHAIRJRJRKRBEJEBB WRESTLINGMANIA!!!

[Defrost]

read this to get hyped for Mania

https://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?143105-Defrost-Reviews-Stuff-2-Electric-Boogaloo-Rewatching-a-Series-A-Go-Go&p=7102802&viewfull=1#post7102802

[Hero!]

John, why are you not going to Mania? It's in your city!

[Defrost]

Well the only person on the card I would care to see is Fandango and he didn't exist until like a month ago.

[Hero!]

No excuse.

[virms]

Go get some scalped tickets and join hero for a few beers and you can't wrestle chants in japanese.

[Peter Griffin]

を歩んできません

[Newf]

This was a fun little video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhnDxosrcDI

I think William even manages to break Sandow a little with his crab cake story.

[Defrost]

Go get some scalped tickets and join hero for a few beers and you can't wrestle chants in japanese.

The Mad Men season premiere is tonight and I don't want to be missing that

[virms]

DVR it. Come back with a good buzz from mania and watch. Don would appreciate that.

[Defrost]

Veep and Game of Thrones are also on. That's just too much stuff to DVR.

[virms]

Ohhh Veep is back tonight.

Veep
Thrones

I need to get Mad Men going. I didn't really get invested into it yet.

[Defrost]

I was wrong. Veep premiere is next week not tonight

[virms]

How do you say "you fucked up in japanese?"

Had my hopes up. I was just in DC and saw ads everywhere too.

[Defrost]

I saw ads and advance reviews and stuff and it made me assume I guess.

Ended up watching Mania. When did Lawler get that bad? I know he has been awful for a while, but tonight he was at the Teacher level of awfulness. That is the only thing on the show that made me feel any emotion good or bad on the show.

[virms]

He was very off tonight. Easily the worst I ever heard him.

[VHS]

So was Cole, although he was trying. Yet at the same time he was mixing up wrestlers' names and miscalling moves and submissions like nobody's business. Cena had Rock in a crossface and he called it the STF.

[Brian M.]

Lawler no longer calls wrestling matches, he reacts to them as though he is a fan. "AHHH!" "OH NO!" "THAT MUST HURT!" and the like are all you hear from him. Very reactionary and not helpful at all. I'm glad the man is in good health now and is able to do what he loves, but his time has been up for a while. I actually think he'd be really good in an agent role but he seems to have no desire to work any days but Monday and one Sunday a month. Which I think is part of the problem, he's no longer all that invested in the product.

[BIGFEETS]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533829_10103255087784804_1187071189_n.jpg

[Psycho666Soldier]

New Background.

[Anaconda Sniper]

They were all horrible last night. JBL was even off. I can't remember who said it but one of them said Cena had a rough 2012 in his career and professional life. Thats the same damn thing!

[Hero!]

The only commentary I heard was the pre pre-show stuff with Dusty, Kofi, JR, and and whoever else.

[Defrost]

I am giving serious thought to going to New Orleans next year just for Raw

[Atty]

The only commentary I heard was the pre pre-show stuff with Dusty, Kofi, JR, and and whoever else.


That group did a post-show too. It was my favorite non-Punk/Taker thing out of the show. I don't mean that in the snarky way—they were actually very good, pointed out things that weren't mentioned during the show (Punk wearing Taker's old purple and grey colors) and actually did analysis. I'd like them to do that with all big shows.

[chatty]

JBL said this was the best version of Cena before the fight despite the build up being how cena has had a shit year and has been at his worst.

[Torn]

But that's only part of it, the build up also featured him turning it around with a Rumble win and finally beating CM Punk, making him ready for redemption. Find something else to nitpick.

[chatty]

I'm not but the way the story was told then they should have been keeping the Cena is back to his best until after he had beaten The Rock considering the whole feud was built on that aspect.

[Beer-Belly]

The obvious flaw was that Cena came off like a desperate whiny douche in the build-up.

[Brian M.]

That group did a post-show too. It was my favorite non-Punk/Taker thing out of the show. I don't mean that in the snarky way—they were actually very good, pointed out things that weren't mentioned during the show (Punk wearing Taker's old purple and grey colors) and actually did analysis. I'd like them to do that with all big shows.

Apparently the plan is to do a similar set up for all of the PPVs going forward. I like the idea but I'm not sure how many people actually watch it.

[Bennedy]

Peter Rosenberg managed to get some good interviews over the weekend. Here is a few of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2tw8E0-JVg&list=UUhyWEs6UQVKpcRPCDSPX3LA&index=8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKkF94efrNk&list=UUhyWEs6UQVKpcRPCDSPX3LA&index=7

Some good ones with Trish, Hornswoggle, Ziggler and others as well.

[Hero!]

Blahahahahahahahaha, I literally watched every single interview of his yesterday. The newest are all great, but he's got some very insightful ones with Show, Michaels, and Jericho from a few years back too.

[chatty]

Apparently the plan is to do a similar set up for all of the PPVs going forward. I like the idea but I'm not sure how many people actually watch it.

If they ever go ahead with the network it will be a great feature but on Youtube its probably limited to how many will tune in.

[virms]

Apparently the plan is to do a similar set up for all of the PPVs going forward. I like the idea but I'm not sure how many people actually watch it.

I don't see Kofi being there everytime but he did a great job. As long as JR is there I am in though. Could be a good job for Bruno if he was interested in keeping things going with the WWE.

Other people I wouldn't mind seeing on the panel

Damien Sandow
Joey Styles
JBL
Heyman
Booker T
Arn


Sure there could be a lot more but it was honestly very interesting and well done.

[virms]

If they ever go ahead with the network it will be a great feature but on Youtube its probably limited to how many will tune in.

Not if they pushed it before they sign off on the air and a million and ten times during the actual broadcast.

[Hero!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roHx6WaTwlE

Awesome EricMinnesota mash-up of all the different themes of people who wrestled at Mania (and Hofers)

[JP]

Ahahahahahaha, yus! :D

Dutch is obviously brilliant as Zeb, to the point he's using his twitter feed to further the angle.

He's been berating fans tweeting him about their bad English, so I tweeted him about his bad grammar and I a got shout back.

I know it's childish, but... :hyper:

https://twitter.com/WWEZeb/status/321662334667993088

[Mills]

nice work sir

[The Law]

I absolutely agree that the commentary from Wrestlemania was terrible but the pre-show was great. I don't like Cole as generic "Voice of WWE" Cole. I much preferred him both as a heel and in his 2002-2007 mode when he was paired with Tazz and JBL and analyzed the match. Those teams were great because they actually called the wrestling match like it was a legitimate sporting event, in the process putting over the guys in the ring and also telling the story of the match much better than WWE's "storytelling" method of commentary every manages to. Lawler is and has been a joke since 2000 or so. It's stunning to listen to him from the Attitude Era and before and hear just how funny he used to be. Today, he gets off one good line a year (Last night's "the first time Cole saw his wife dance he had to pay a cover charge" is this year's, so have fun for the next 12 months). JBL is and always has been great, but he had an off night. I also think he's better in a two man booth. In general, I like two man booths better because the guys develop better chemistry and get to talk more.

That pre-show was a revelation. Scott Stanford has called legitimate sports before, and it shows. He has a coolness and credibility to him that works very well. Jim Ross is one of wrestling's all-time great announcers, and while he's lost a step as a play-by-play guy, he still brings it. He knows how to tell a story and he knows the wrestling business. He was putting the guys over and building up the fights while also doing a good job of explaining and expanding upon the storylines going into the matches. Kofi Kingston was shockingly good. The guy has really never shown much of any personality in or out of the ring, but I really liked him here. Dusty wasn't great, but it was nice to see him.

Going forward, I think Stanford and JR are essentials (if JR will do it). The rest of the panel can rotate: a current wrestler who isn't wrestling on the show (due to injury or just not having a match) and a legend. Joey Styles is definitely a good choice if JR can't or won't do the shows every month. Mick Foley, Arn Anderson, Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Ted DiBiase, Road Dogg, and Dean Malenko are all guys that they have under contract who would be fun to hear. Those shows are great because they treat wrestling like it's an actual sport and the matches like something we should want to see. People love sports and competition, so treating wrestling in that manner is the way to go.

[Atty]

Kofi would actually be great on commentary.

[Defrost]

I have made something. And when I post my next review you will all get to see it.

[Atty]

Is your next review ten pages of phonetics to write out Fandango's theme?

[Defrost]

Mario Paint sheet music

[Hero!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K8f3f3GMaI

Because you know it's been stuck in your head all day.

[Atty]

Just all day? You think so small.

[Judas Iscariot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNg-xClEnqM

Been stuck in my head for DECADES

[VanillaJello]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHnZ946rSkI

[Newf]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K8f3f3GMaI

Because you know it's been stuck in your head all day.

I feel compelled to make this my ringtone.

[Defrost]

New review. Go for the custom logo I spent a good 3 minutes on microsoft paint working on stay for the gushing review of a match most of you couldn't give a shit about.

[Ochoa]

So I want to get a t-shirt for the first time in ages for Extreme Rules, but I can't decide between Wade or Big Mawk. Barrett Barrage looks cool, but Bent on Destruction has also caught my eye. If only they made a Fandango shirt already.. *sigh*

[Hero!]

Punk has tons of good ones out now. I like Sandows too. Cesaros as well. And Cody. And Ryback. And Ziggler. Loads of good shirts out now.

I like how all of Orton's shirts are still in that Affliction style that went out of style like 5 years ago.

[Defrost]

No feedback on the new logo?

[The Law]

I feel like that Orton/Sheamus segment on Raw demonstrated a lot of what is wrong with WWE right now. First, Orton forgot his line and was somehow unable to ad-lib. Instead, he literally stopped his promo and asked Sheamus was his line was. His line was "I'm going to kick Big Show's ass." He can't come up with something on his own? He doesn't have enough understand of the story to be able to come up with a statement that expresses his character's feelings in that moment? It's not like this guy is a rookie, he's a main eventer who has been on the main roster for over ten years. And yet, when he forgets his line he has no idea what to do.

And then him and Sheamus had a match and the crowd took a dump on it. Now, I don't think it's a huge problem that a crowd full of internet smart marks didn't care about a match between two of the tops guys on the roster. That's not the audience WWE needs to be catering too, and Sheamus and Orton get great reactions from normal crowds. But Orton and Sheamus were totally befuddled by the response. And rather than changing up their match, they just continued with it despite the fact that the crowd was doing the wave. Again, these aren't rookies, these are main eventers. And they either can't or won't play off the crowd. I feel like if either of those guys had been in the ring with Hogan at Wrestlemania 18 they would have kept playing babyface in the match.

It's a real problem that guys at that level are so incapable of improvising that they have to stop their promo when they forget their scripted line and can't or won't change up their match when the crowd is shitting on it. I know there are guys on the roster capable of going off-script: Cena, Punk, and Bryan definitely come to mind. What this comes down to is that wrestling is about telling a story and playing a character, not reading a line on a script and going through a series of moves in the ring. And when top guys don't understand that well enough to improvise, you have a real problem. Word is that Triple H has directed developmental to stop scripting promos for the guys and instead make them come up with their own stuff. It's about time. Ever since they went to their canned version of developmental they haven't been able to churn out anyone who could cut a decent promo.

[Defrost]

Watching MLB Tonight they go to Kansas City to interview Billy Butler and you can hear Fandango's theme playing in the stadium

[Atty]

FANDANGO RULES THE WORLD!

[Newf]

Right, so I love Brad Maddox. I don't bother with the whole Raw Active thing, so apparently I've missed a TONNE of segments between Maddox and Striker:
http://www.wwe.com/videos/brad-maddox-shares-his-favorite-raw-moments-wwe-app-exclusive-26084255

"I wrestled Sheamus, Sheamus."
"Twice?"
"No, what's his last name?"
"Sheamus doesn't have a last name."

At which point Brad LOSES it laughing.

Just Googling "Brad Maddox WWE.com" yields some absolute gold. I think it's his aloofness and arrogance and borderline delusion that gets me.

http://www.wwe.com/videos/brad-maddox-reveals-the-idea-he-pitched-to-close-out-raw-wwe-app-exclusive-26101720

In this one he pitches a baby under-the-top-rope battle royal to crown "the next top guy... or girl... babies are girls or guys... depending on the baby" rather than the Legends panel that closed out Raw.

The man is an absolute mad genius as far as I'm concerned.

[kangus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4vzPw4yvI0

[Ringo]

ahaha Newf, that first vid is great. Didn't realise he could be THIS good. Hilarious man.

[Hero!]

"just getting started playing hoops on the hardcourt...ballin' it up"

[Ringo]

ok so there's bloody loads of them and they're all great!

Cheers for this Newf.

[Ochoa]

Punk has tons of good ones out now. I like Sandows too. Cesaros as well. And Cody. And Ryback. And Ziggler. Loads of good shirts out now.

I like how all of Orton's shirts are still in that Affliction style that went out of style like 5 years ago.

Punk does have some good ones. I am not digging Cena's "Champ is Here" shirt at all. Same for Ziggles. I love Dolph, but that t-shirt makes me think of some 80's hair metal band groupie.



I feel like that Orton/Sheamus segment on Raw demonstrated a lot of what is wrong with WWE right now. First, Orton forgot his line and was somehow unable to ad-lib. Instead, he literally stopped his promo and asked Sheamus was his line was. His line was "I'm going to kick Big Show's ass." He can't come up with something on his own? He doesn't have enough understand of the story to be able to come up with a statement that expresses his character's feelings in that moment? It's not like this guy is a rookie, he's a main eventer who has been on the main roster for over ten years. And yet, when he forgets his line he has no idea what to do.

And then him and Sheamus had a match and the crowd took a dump on it. Now, I don't think it's a huge problem that a crowd full of internet smart marks didn't care about a match between two of the tops guys on the roster. That's not the audience WWE needs to be catering too, and Sheamus and Orton get great reactions from normal crowds. But Orton and Sheamus were totally befuddled by the response. And rather than changing up their match, they just continued with it despite the fact that the crowd was doing the wave. Again, these aren't rookies, these are main eventers. And they either can't or won't play off the crowd. I feel like if either of those guys had been in the ring with Hogan at Wrestlemania 18 they would have kept playing babyface in the match.

It's a real problem that guys at that level are so incapable of improvising that they have to stop their promo when they forget their scripted line and can't or won't change up their match when the crowd is shitting on it. I know there are guys on the roster capable of going off-script: Cena, Punk, and Bryan definitely come to mind. What this comes down to is that wrestling is about telling a story and playing a character, not reading a line on a script and going through a series of moves in the ring. And when top guys don't understand that well enough to improvise, you have a real problem. Word is that Triple H has directed developmental to stop scripting promos for the guys and instead make them come up with their own stuff. It's about time. Ever since they went to their canned version of developmental they haven't been able to churn out anyone who could cut a decent promo.

That was rough, true. Maybe they had an off night?



Watching MLB Tonight they go to Kansas City to interview Billy Butler and you can hear Fandango's theme playing in the stadium

Ha! That's amazing. Fahn-Dahn-Goh is the best thing going right now... other than Dolph.

[Cewsh]

In fairness, I don't think anybody is wrestling a great match in front of a crowd like that.

[Beer-Belly]

That's nonsense. The right guys could have a great match in that kind of environment.

[chatty]

Of course the right guys know what to do in front of a crowd like that. they started shitting on Cena immediately while singing Fandangos tune and he just done a bit ballroom dancing which got their attention immediately. As boring and stale as Cena can be, when he's let of the leash or decides to some some of his real character he knows how to work the crowd perfectly. He's ha more practice than the rest considering he's had to work tough crowds many a time but Sheamus and Orton were embarrassingly bad the other night.

[Cewsh]

That's nonsense. The right guys could have a great match in that kind of environment.

Show me an example that shows that. Where the fans are not participating in the match at all, and are actively drawing attention away from it, and a great match was had regardless.

[chatty]

It wouldn't be finding a match where they still had a great match but a match where they drew the crowd back in instead though wouldn't it?

[Kyle_242]

In fairness, I don't think anybody is wrestling a great match in front of a crowd like that.

He wasn't saying they should've had a great match. He was saying that they were incapable of improvising to adapt to a hostile crowd.

[Cewsh]

It wouldn't be finding a match where they still had a great match but a match where they drew the crowd back in instead though wouldn't it?

I honestly believe that's an impossible accomplishment under those circumstances, no matter who it is. The crowd was 100% wrapped up in themselves.


He wasn't saying they should've had a great match. He was saying that they were incapable of improvising to adapt to a hostile crowd.

But that's the thing. It wasn't a HOSTILE crowd. That's a different animal altogether. Once a crowd starts doing the wave, they've checked out 100%, and may as well be watching something else altogether. Working a match in front of 10,000 people where none of them are reacting to you at all would throw anyone. It threw the Undertaker and JBL when it happened to them too.

[Atty]

I honestly believe that's an impossible accomplishment under those circumstances, no matter who it is. The crowd was 100% wrapped up in themselves.


Taker and Edge would have found a way.

[Beer-Belly]

Show me an example that shows that. Where the fans are not participating in the match at all, and are actively drawing attention away from it, and a great match was had regardless.

They checked out of that match because it was plodding and uneventful. If Barrett and Miz can keep their attention, then Orton and Sheamus should be able to do the same.

[Beer-Belly]

How were they 100% wrapped up in themsleves? They went bonkers for Ziggler, Bryan, Taker, Jericho, and Fandango. Fucks sake, they even enjoyed Cena for the most part.

[Cewsh]

They checked out of that match because it was plodding and uneventful. If Barrett and Miz can keep their attention, then Orton and Sheamus should be able to do the same.

They were well into the goofy part of the night by then, and Orton and Sheamus hadn't even locked up before the crowd started in with the shenanigans. I'm not saying I blame them, or that it was a great match. I'm just saying its a fucking difficult situation to be in for a performer, and holding it against Sheamus and Orton is a weird thing to do.


How were they 100% wrapped up in themsleves? They went bonkers for Ziggler, Bryan, Taker, Jericho, and Fandango. Fucks sake, they even enjoyed Cena for the most part.

I meant for that particular match, not the whole show.

[Brian M.]

To be fair the crowd turned on the match before it even started, probably because they didn't have a heel or internet darling to cheer for. However, I do agree that Sheamus and Orton could have done SOMETHING to drag the crowd back into it. Sheamus at least looked like he was enjoying himself. Orton looked like he wanted to punt every single person in the crowd. Plus he was flubbing his lines before the match started, he was just a mess that night.

[Dave]

We were only 100% wrapped up in ourselves because we were given the chance to check out. Leading up to that match there'd been a lengthy Wrestlemania week video package (redundant for those in the arena as most of us were there), a Big Show recap of what he'd said in the post-show, Randy fluffing his lines, and most of us being confused as they'd put up graphics suggesting it was to be voted on, which they then completely ignored. Then two of the stalest guys in the company (for that audience at least) started with a few headlocks and a shoving contest.

That's when the chants (the Mike Chioda one had started during the previous ad-break) started up again, and as the match dragged on they just got more and more ridiculous.

A number of guys in the company could have had the crowd's attention - Punk, Bryan, Ziggler, and Y2J are the obvious ones - but it would have taken something completely out of the ordinary for Randy and Sheamus to have done it on that night. Especially for 15-20 minutes.

[Judas Iscariot]

Maybe if Sheamus and Orton cut a promo that wasn't fucking shit, with one of them forgetting his very difficult, "I wanna fight Big Show!" line, with the crowd voting being shown and then thrown out randomly, maybe if Sheamus and Orton weren't so stupid and boring, maybe the crowd would have been into the match when it started.

EDIT: Or what Dave said above me with much better sentences than my disaster of a sentence.

[Cewsh]

We were only 100% wrapped up in ourselves because we were given the chance to check out. Leading up to that match there'd been a lengthy Wrestlemania week video package (redundant for those in the arena as most of us were there), a Big Show recap of what he'd said in the post-show, Randy fluffing his lines, and most of us being confused as they'd put up graphics suggesting it was to be voted on, which they then completely ignored. Then two of the stalest guys in the company (for that audience at least) started with a few headlocks and a shoving contest.

That's when the chants (the Mike Chioda one had started during the previous ad-break) started up again, and as the match dragged on they just got more and more ridiculous.

A number of guys in the company could have had the crowd's attention - Punk, Bryan, Ziggler, and Y2J are the obvious ones - but it would have taken something completely out of the ordinary for Randy and Sheamus to have done it on that night. Especially for 15-20 minutes.

Yep, that all makes sense.

[Tempest]

To be fair, on the rare ocassion I do sit through an Orton match, I find myself simulating that crowd in my head more often than not.

[chatty]

Its a weird scenario anyway. They either have a plan that ultimately leads to Orton (or longshot swerve in Sheamus) doing a slow burn heel turn in which case they should have just done the turn at Mania or they have nothing for these guys to do so are just putting them in a feud to buy time.

Its a poor feud as big show and sheamus have feuded for months prior to this, Sheamus and Randy reason for feuding is pretty shit and Orton and show has been done before and in these circumstances are never going to feud well.

Orton blatently dislikes being a face and just goes with the motion, Sheamus seems to like his role but gets booked like a dick and Show turns every other week so his character is all over the place. They would have been better holding off on the two faces facing each other till their was some genuine beef between them. At present they are arguing about who dislikes someone else more, they should have just had Sheamus/Big show who have proven they can work good matches together and have Randy come down to interfere and screw sheamus by accident or something. It would have worked so much better.

[Kimura Kid]

To be fair, on the rare ocassion I do sit through an Orton match, I find myself simulating that crowd in my head more often than not.

Watching Orton Wrestle is like watching poetry in motion. The guys is amazing in the ring and is about as crisp as you can get. I just think he isn't booked properly. You don't enjoy what he does in the ring?

[chatty]

Watching Orton Wrestle is like watching poetry in motion. The guys is amazing in the ring and is about as crisp as you can get. I just think he isn't booked properly. You don't enjoy what he does in the ring?

he was booked as well as anyone for years but he screwed up his wellness tests whereby they pretty much have to keep him in the mid-card incase of a disaster these days.

[Kimura Kid]

Really? Damn that blows. Care to further elaborate? Was it specified what the issues were?

[Atty]

Well, Orton was the hottest thing in the company after punting Vince. Then they had him do the IED non-sense to pull back and try to make the crowd not want to cheer him. By the time he actually turned face he was, for lack of a better term, a complete fucking pussy.

[chatty]

Really? Damn that blows. Care to further elaborate? Was it specified what the issues were?

Well he could still be pushed as a main event player and they still keep him booked pretty strongly but he's on his last warning so one more strike and he is sacked. It would be pretty damn embarrassing for them to sack their champ and I'm sure it would garner more news than say Swagger did with his idiocy. I think they'll make him wait a while and see if he can stay on the straight for a good while before they take a chance on him again.

[Kimura Kid]

Gotcha, Thanks for the responses fellas. It's a shame. He's so fucking talented and makes it look effortless (except Monday lol)

I was wondering why they weren't doing much with him.

[Tempest]

Watching Orton Wrestle is like watching poetry in motion. The guys is amazing in the ring and is about as crisp as you can get. I just think he isn't booked properly. You don't enjoy what he does in the ring?


I don't usually converse with obvious socks, but with Orton I can't help but bite.

The guy is stupidly average in every way and only got anywhere because of his look. They have shown that booking him in a certain way makes him entertaining, but when he's left to fend for himself for a while as all talents do, he comes off as a clueless, talentless toss.

[Kimura Kid]

I don't usually converse with obvious socks, but with Orton I can't help but bite.

The guy is stupidly average in every way and only got anywhere because of his look. They have shown that booking him in a certain way makes him entertaining, but when he's left to fend for himself for a while as all talents do, he comes off as a clueless, talentless toss.

Not sure what a sock is...haha!! But I'm gonna assume it's a derogatory comment. Not sure why you feel the need to insult me. I came here to further educate myself on the wrestling world today as well as converse with an educated forum about wrestling. Normally I would get all hot and bothered and try to understand why you feel this way about me.....but considering I have done nothing but give my opinion and ask you for yours....I'll simply say that you should eat a fat fuckin dick!

To say that Orton is Average tells me everything I need to know about your opinion. Nothing about his in ring ability is average.....Nothing!!

*Edit* I guess my line "Nothing about Orton's in ring ability is average" is opinion based

[Cewsh]

I don't usually converse with obvious socks, but with Orton I can't help but bite.

What makes him an obvious sock? Dude has been contributing quite well thus far.

[Tempest]

What makes him an obvious sock? Dude has been contributing quite well thus far.


You've been here long enough.

I'm insulting a guy because I suggested his style is sock like? Then he suggests I eat a fat fuckin dick? Textbook sock being found out

[Kimura Kid]

What is a sock? Please?? lmao!!

You insult me I insult you right back......If that's a sock then I'm a sock.

[Tempest]

So, I called you a sock. You didn't know what one is and told me to suck a fat dick. Fair trade off on insults to me :/

Lamefrost.

[Judas Iscariot]

Soz, some folks around here aren't used to people who are just getting back into wrestling and enjoying things that bitter, broken members of the IWC don't.

[Vice]

To find out if someone is a sock, you must publicly claim they are a sock.

"Yes I'm a sock" - Case closed, with honesty. SOCK.
"No, I'm not a sock" - He denies being a sock. SOCK.
"What's a sock?" - He is playing dumb. SOCK.

It works best with a new poster who has publicly stated that he thinks people are out to get him, and has proved more than once that he lashes out when feeling backed into a corner.

Conclusion: SOCK

[The Rick]

So I want to get a t-shirt for the first time in ages for Extreme Rules, but I can't decide between Wade or Big Mawk. Barrett Barrage looks cool, but Bent on Destruction has also caught my eye. If only they made a Fandango shirt already.. *sigh*

OR you go to barbershopwindow.com (http://barbershopwindow.com/overstockbin.htm) and get this

http://barbershopwindow.com/IMAGES/WHATS%20MY%20NAME.jpg

[Kimura Kid]

So, I called you a sock. You didn't know what one is and told me to suck a fat dick. Fair trade off on insults to me :/

Lamefrost.

You posted it in such a way I had to assume it was an insult. Was I wrong?

[Tempest]

Oh noes, I have been schooled on such things by a former mod who can then make it seem like a vendetta

Wait...Vice...V....FOR VENDETTA

[Tempest]

You posted it in such a way I had to assume it was an insult. Was I wrong?


An insult is very different to an accusation, so yes.

[Kimura Kid]

To find out if someone is a sock, you must publicly claim they are a sock.

"Yes I'm a sock" - Case closed, with honesty. SOCK.
"No, I'm not a sock" - He denies being a sock. SOCK.
"What's a sock?" - He is playing dumb. SOCK.

It works best with a new poster who has publicly stated that he thinks people are out to get him, and has proved more than once that he lashes out when feeling backed into a corner.

Conclusion: SOCK

I'm officially lost here. I give up.

[Kimura Kid]

An insult is very different to an accusation, so yes.

What exactly are you accusing me of?

[Kimura Kid]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sock+puppet


Seriously.....You think I'm using a snipe account?

Nothing I can really say about that. Just curious what makes you think that? What would I gain from doing such?

We call them Snipe account in the online MMA gaming community. You use a separate account to hide your identity. Once you built up a decent record or have a know Name people won't play you. So you create a "Snipe account" so yo can get fights. But I cannot understand what I would have a purpose for a 2nd account on a forum for. lol

[Vice]

Oh noes, I have been schooled on such things by a former mod who can then make it seem like a vendetta

Wait...Vice...V....FOR VENDETTA

It was more of a general statement, as that's how it has gone down for the past 10 years. By everyone.

But hey, since you're around, you should do an IP check.

[Tempest]

Being a poster under another name whether it be a banned one, or a bored member looking to create fun times. Either way, bored now

[Kyle_242]

Can't Tempest look up the IP's?

edit: goddamn Vice

[Tempest]

It was more of a general statement, as that's how it has gone down for the past 10 years. By everyone.

But hey, since you're around, you should do an IP check.


Sadly, for the most part, those observations have been correct

I've been around most of the time. But IP checks are not so simple now.

[Judas Iscariot]

:lol: now Tempest is bored :lol:

[Kimura Kid]

Being a poster under another name whether it be a banned one, or a bored member looking to create fun times. Either way, bored now

Nothing I can really say about that. Just curious what makes you think that? What would I gain from doing such?

We call them Snipe account in the online MMA gaming community. You use a separate account to hide your identity. Once you built up a decent record or have a know Name people won't play you. So you create a "Snipe account" so yo can get fights. But I cannot understand what I would have a purpose for a 2nd account on a forum for. lol

[Vice]

Sadly, for the most part, those observations have been correct

I've been around most of the time. But IP checks are not so simple now.
Well, yeah, you now have to go into a menu to do an IP check. Extra step and all.

[Tempest]

I have a sock account, but never really bothered to use it much. Been here enough to know what one is though

[One Man Gang]

I looked up his IP long ago and didn't find anything. Did it again just a minute ago. Didn't see anything. Doesn't mean he's not a sock, but then again it doesn't mean that a lot of you couldn't be socks.

I give the benefit of the doubt and move on. Kid seems nice enough.


Though I do wonder where Adair went.... :shifty:

[Kimura Kid]

Please do an IP check. I would love to prove this know it all wrong

[Kimura Kid]

Fuck that just google me man!! lol

I been around for ages using the same fucking name all over the MMA & MMA Gaming Community.

[G-Fresh]

Don't get so hype about it bro.

[Tempest]

Well, yeah, you now have to go into a menu to do an IP check. Extra step and all.


Love the patronising bumhole act. You forget that I stopped caring way before you and therefore give even less of a shit what I say to rile people up. Whilst we both once cared what people said to us in reply, I gave up the mod stuff well before you, they just didn't want me to go....

[Kimura Kid]

This guy seems like a real winner....so fuck it.

Let him think I'm a "Sock"

[One Man Gang]

Just ignore Tempest, Kimura. It's okay.

[Tempest]

Bad times to be me

[Jimmy Zero]

Are we still throwing around these stupid sock accusations?

Fucking hell, no wonder this forum is wasting away.

[Kyle_242]

Sock it! Ye-eah!!

SATELLITE OF LOOOOOOOOVE

[MikeHunt]

Don't think a sock would bother his fanny creating a twitter to link to his profile. Stupid accusation.

[Judas Iscariot]

I created a sock myself a couple of years ago because I thought it was be AWESOME!

Then I didn't know what to do with it other than an intro thread and got banned.

Kimura is good people. Tempest is very bitter. About something. I don't know what he's so bitter about but he's very bitter. Like the rind of a kumquat.

[Jimmy Zero]

Who gives a flying fuck if the guy is a sock?

I mean, besides Tempest, obviously.

[Tempest]

I am bitter about ummm....no idea. Bitter is the wrong word as I don't really care. Enjoying all of this though...Tempest is racking himself off is closer to the mark

[G-Fresh]

You are one bitter motherfucker.

[Jimmy Zero]

DVDA, you are obviously a sock.

A cum sock.

[Kimura Kid]

I'm really curious what would make someone assume such a thing?

Was it my knowledge of wrestling or lack thereof? Was it my friendliness? My ability to accept that I may not always be right, And admit fault? Was it the fact that I openly admitted I was a noob?

That's just me buddy. I'm coming into your house.....without the knowledge you all have of current affairs within WWE. Do you want me to be a brazing shit head? I've been a part of online communities for a long time. I know how this works. I was simply trying to be an active member of a community I enjoyed being a part of.

NXT Thread was the real reason I joined. to discuss NXT with the guys in that thread. But since I've really come to enjoy this place for what it is. A place I can come and discuss wrestling with knowledgeable and mature adults

[Tempest]

You are one bitter motherfucker.




I AM. I admit. I can't help it. I wish I could turn back time and be Pete Cash again.

[Jimmy Zero]

A place I can come and discuss wrestling with knowledgeable and mature adults

You're in the wrong neighborhood.

[Kimura Kid]

I don't know what he's so bitter about but he's very bitter.

Maybe he's bitter because I've been here 1 Month and already accrued more reputation than he has in 12 Years!

[Ringo]

BOOOM.

[Tempest]

:lol:

[Jimmy Zero]

Do you see, Tempest?

Do you see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?

[Judas Iscariot]

Everyone on this site is a dick, Kimura. Particularly those have been here for 12+ years (these forums were around for a good while before they crashed and got restarted, so some folks here have been around for a very, very long time).

Because everyone is so jaded, some don't like it when people are happy.

But you're good people, Kimura. Just tell people to fuck off more and you'll fit right in.

[Kimura Kid]

lol Gotcha!!

I appreciate the heads up and kind words!!

[Tempest]

Do you see, Tempest?

Do you see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?


I see how I did wrong. I see now.

I SEE

[Judas Iscariot]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Kimura wins the Wrestling Forums.

[MikeHunt]

I'm really curious what would make someone assume such a thing?

Was it my knowledge of wrestling or lack thereof? Was it my friendliness? My ability to accept that I may not always be right, And admit fault? Was it the fact that I openly admitted I was a noob?

That's just me buddy. I'm coming into your house.....without the knowledge you all have of current affairs within WWE. Do you want me to be a brazing shit head? I've been a part of online communities for a long time. I know how this works. I was simply trying to be an active member of a community I enjoyed being a part of.

NXT Thread was the real reason I joined. to discuss NXT with the guys in that thread. But since I've really come to enjoy this place for what it is. A place I can come and discuss wrestling with knowledgeable and mature adults

Slammed! Mature adults though??? Better go somewhere else mate.

#untuckyourshirt
#fag
#cewshargues
#mikehuntwins

[Jimmy Zero]

#cewshargues

LOL

[Kimura Kid]

You guys need to take my word. I come from a MMA Gaming Community. :D

Things can be pretty bad at times. It's seriously been a breath of fresh air joining here.

And not for nothin but 190+ posts in the time I've been here is a shit ton by my standards. I normally never post so much. But the fact that I'm enjoying wrestling again and have this place to share my views and have some questions answered has been great! And I have a genuine urge to visit here and post. If the community was as bad as you guys make it seem I wouldn't stick around. Always gonna be a few "bad apples". And I have my moments as well, We all do.

Seems like the morale here is really low. It shouldn't be you guys are great! :yes:

[Hero!]

But seriously, Kimura, Orton fucking sucks. He's beyond mediocre. Nothing about him is "poetic" and I genuinely don't know how you could even come to that conclusion unless you are A) Orton's relative B) Triple H or C) Randy Orton.

[Cewsh]

I love both Kimura and Tempy. You guys can't make me choose like this.

[Kimura Kid]

But seriously, Kimura, Orton fucking sucks. He's beyond mediocre. Nothing about him is "poetic" and I genuinely don't know how you could even come to that conclusion unless you are A) Orton's relative B) Triple H or C) Randy Orton.

lmao!! Hilarious!!

But It's the way he pulls off moves....the way he moves in the ring (no homo) it just looks effortless. no wasted motion, perfectly perfected......Just crisp!

[Cewsh]

But seriously, Kimura, Orton fucking sucks. He's beyond mediocre. Nothing about him is "poetic" and I genuinely don't know how you could even come to that conclusion unless you are A) Orton's relative B) Triple H or C) Randy Orton.

Orton mails it in more than anyone else has in years and years, and he puts on pretty much the same match every night. It's extremely aggravating. But the man is still one of the smoothest guys in the ring that has ever wrestled. He just doesn't do anything with it most of the time.

[Kimura Kid]

I love both Kimura and Tempy. You guys can't make me choose like this.


Water under the bridge my man. I have no hard feelings toward the guy. ;)

[Judas Iscariot]

Orton also has this annoying tendency to break his arm when he pounds the mat.

NOT SO SMOOTH NOW, IS HE?

[Cewsh]

CM Punk has an annoying tendency to break his skull jumping off of ladders.

[Kimura Kid]

Orton also has this annoying tendency to break his arm when he pounds the mat.

NOT SO SMOOTH NOW, IS HE?

Yikes, Just saw that on youtube. wtf was that shit...lol

[Judas Iscariot]

CM Punk has an annoying tendency to break his skull jumping off of ladders.

CM PUNK'S FINISHER >>>>> KENTA'S

OHHHHHHHHH WHATCHA GONNA DO, CEWSH? WHATCHA GONNA DO????

[Psycho666Soldier]

CM PUNK'S FINISHER >>>>> KENTA'S

OHHHHHHHHH WHATCHA GONNA DO, CEWSH? WHATCHA GONNA DO????

I'd be more worried of Defrost.


On the topic of Orton, He's really talented in the ring, and when you put him in there with someone else who is at least good, you won't come out that disappointed. His biggest issue is that he can be pretty lazy, and when he gets bored of what he's doing, he hardly does anything to have some fun with it, and starts going by the books. A heel turn would help a lot, and he delivers when it counts, but he has to learn to stop phoning it in so much just because he's unhappy about being a face.

[Mills]

Japan sucks.

[virms]

Cewsh is gonna get lynched thats what

[Judas Iscariot]

If Orton had tapped into this aspect of his personality AT ALL during his match against Sheamus knowing how the crowd was going, he would have had the crowd instantly back into the match:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIhxNyJtwuE

But that was probably when he was hopped up and happy. Now he's bitter and angry like Tempest.

[Cewsh]

CM PUNK'S FINISHER >>>>> KENTA'S

OHHHHHHHHH WHATCHA GONNA DO, CEWSH? WHATCHA GONNA DO????


Japan sucks.

Nah.

[Vice]

This Orton stuff should have its own thread. I'll get on that unless someone wants to volunteer.

[Judas Iscariot]

Do you still have the authority to make threads, Vice?

[virms]

There should be at least 5 orton threads

Appreciation thread

Why we hate orton thread

Headlocks and chinlocks - why randy is the master

Top 10 randy orton matches

You fucked up - randy's best botches

[Judas Iscariot]

Vice, can you sticky those threads, please?

[Vice]

:squint:

[Hero!]

CM Punk has an annoying tendency to break his skull jumping off of ladders.

Too bad he cracked his skull doing a suplex, NOOB

[Newf]

BACK TO FANDANGO...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nya6g8A357E

I'm watching this and "Why don't I have chloroform?" is so brilliant.

[G-Fresh]

DVDA, you are obviously a sock.

A cum sock.

I bust nuts in socks all day long.

[wardy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuskxlWek8I

[Vice]

http://i.imgur.com/vVqyyhm.png

Upon seeing that, I immediately thought of Brock Lesnar's tattoo. Now I kind of want him to get the rest of that tattooed onto his belly.

I think it's the only way that penis sword on his chest can be salvaged.

[Kimura Kid]

I'm debating going to Payback in June at the Allstate arena in Rosemont IL, But I'm concened that Punk won't be active then.....What are your guys thoughts? You think punk will be competing come June 16th?

[JP]

nLKJNkjhsdkljhjhkjhjhjhjahakjhajkahakjhhajhahahaah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahsakjhkshkdjshjahkjhahaha hhahahahahhaha!!!!!!

Daniel Bryan is fucking peerless.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XQJD4536huQ#!

[kangus]

ahahaahha "A DWARF" *kick*

[Psycho666Soldier]

I'm debating going to Payback in June at the Allstate arena in Rosemont IL, But I'm concened that Punk won't be active then.....What are your guys thoughts? You think punk will be competing come June 16th?

I plan on going regardless because Chicago shows are always a blast. I was at MITB 2011, when Punk beat Cena for the title, and it was absolutely amazing. Granted, it might not be THAT good, but I wouldn't refuse to go just because Punk isn't going to be there. YOU LIVE IN CHICAGO!! Fucking GO! Dolph Ziggler could still be WHC, Daniel Bryan is SURE to have a match, Tag Team or not, and probably even THE FUCKING SHIELD!!! Who even cares if the rest of the card is just Great Khali vs. Hornswoggle in 5 different gimmick matches. The rest could sell it and make it a top-notch PPV.

So, yeah, fuck CM Punk, go because it'll be AWESOME!

Disclaimer: CM Punk is the shit.




EDIT: B. Dazzle and Kurly Kane are the best new Hip-Hop duo on the scene. I can't wait for their first mixtape.

[Hero!]

omfg, i needed that today.

"...just let me be a bear"

[takerson]

B. Dazzle and Kurly Kane is one of the greatest things I've ever seen.

[Kimura Kid]

I plan on going regardless because Chicago shows are always a blast. I was at MITB 2011, when Punk beat Cena for the title, and it was absolutely amazing. Granted, it might not be THAT good, but I wouldn't refuse to go just because Punk isn't going to be there. YOU LIVE IN CHICAGO!! Fucking GO! Dolph Ziggler could still be WHC, Daniel Bryan is SURE to have a match, Tag Team or not, and probably even THE FUCKING SHIELD!!! Who even cares if the rest of the card is just Great Khali vs. Hornswoggle in 5 different gimmick matches. The rest could sell it and make it a top-notch PPV.

So, yeah, fuck CM Punk, go because it'll be AWESOME!

Disclaimer: CM Punk is the shit.




EDIT: B. Dazzle and Kurly Kane are the best new Hip-Hop duo on the scene. I can't wait for their first mixtape.

Haha!! That's Awesome you got me pumped just reading that. Guess your right. :cheers:

[mth]

That was wonderful.

[Andy]

JBL has been amazing at everything since he came back. Hope the three man Raw team is permanent.

[Psycho666Soldier]

JBL has been amazing at everything since he came back. Hope the three man Raw team is permanent.

I was watching Botchamania, and he pointed out that Cole miscalled the STF when Cole later called the ACTUAL STF. Made me crack up.

Speaking of which, the new Botchamania went up yesterday. It's the WrestleMania edition. Pretty good funny stuff.

[Andy]

Link?

[Psycho666Soldier]

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJoynihnXLM" target="_blank">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJoynihnXLM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJoynihnXLM)

[Kimura Kid]

Oh man. Rock saying "WW" had me in tears

[Atty]

JBL has been amazing at everything since he came back. Hope the three man Raw team is permanent.

He's always been amazing at everything.

[stylepoints]

I love that ending!

[takerson]

Real quick off topic, I've started a thread in "The Listening Room", the Entertainment Sub-Forum, about Concerts you all have been too. I'm curious and think it could spark some good convo. Saying it here 'cause there's ZERO traffic in that forum. Check it out. :yes:

[virms]

ahahaahha "A DWARF" *kick*

The sad thing though is that if there were a rajah house this would now happen to Hero on, at the very least, a daily basis.

[JP]

The sad thing though is that if there were a rajah house this would now happen to Hero on, at the very least, a daily basis.

Hourly.

[Atty]

Rajah House would have a doggie door?

[Andy]

Why is Fandango trolling Everton FC on Twitter? I love it :lol:

[Badger]

From the main page:

http://rajah.com/node/33191

:lol: Can't blame the guy for cheating on her though.

[Badger]

Why is Fandango trolling Everton FC on Twitter? I love it :lol:

Closet Liverpool fan?

[Excel]

Some of the other designs they had in mind for the newest WWE title

This one would have been fucking amazing

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2013/04/09_WWE-TITLE-RENDERS-6.jpg

http://www.wwe.com/inside/alternate-wwe-title-designs-photos