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takerson
July 5th, 2012, 6:19 PM
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Since there is never enough interest in Impact to warrant devoted threads, I figured I'd do what we used to do years ago... have one single thread for discussion of IMPACT Wrestling.
Tonight (7/5/2012) is the go-home edition of Impact for Destination X. Destination X's card is awesome, and pretty much every show since Slammiversary has been great.
Confirmed for Tonight are Gail Kim & Madison Rayne vs. Brooke Tessmacher & Tara, as well as James Storm vs. Jeff Hardy in the Bound For Glory Series.
I'm looking forward to it. :yes:
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I'd like to believe that Storm/Hardy was originally set for the PPV, but the fact that The X Division Championship Tournament takes up 5 match slots (not complaining, I love one-night Tournaments) is probably why this is on Impact. Should be a good match. :yes:
Vice
July 5th, 2012, 6:22 PM
1) This is a good idea. :yes:
2) I swear.. every photo they take of Jeff Hardy is somehow dumber than the one before it. Jesus. Just look at him.
StoneColdWWE316
July 5th, 2012, 6:22 PM
Hopefully Jeff Hardy/James Storm is given enough time since its the Main Event and they don't rush right through it. How many Matches are on the PPV this weekend?
takerson
July 5th, 2012, 6:27 PM
X Division Tournament = 4 One on One Matches & 1 Four Way Ultimate X Match
Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle
AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels in a Last Man Standing Match
and
World Champion Bobby Roode vs. Austin Aries
That's 8, the usual for a TNA PPV.
MikeHunt
July 5th, 2012, 7:06 PM
I'm loving impact at the moment apart from nXt it's the best show going.
We don't get this till Sunday though so spoilers in this thread until the Monday if that's ok.
Matthew
July 5th, 2012, 7:36 PM
yea i got your back bro
i'll ban anyone who tries to fuck with that
MikeHunt
July 5th, 2012, 7:41 PM
matthew for mod!
Matthew
July 5th, 2012, 7:44 PM
i am the people's mod
Cold_Hearted_Truth
July 5th, 2012, 8:24 PM
They've managed to quickly kill Crimson.
Loved his cocky undefeated gimmick. Now he's jobbing to Devon. No offense to Devon, but put the belt on someone that can put on watchable TV matches.
Pretty obvious Claire Lynch is aligned with Daniels/Kaz, but I can't wait for the Claire's a whore chants.
takerson
July 5th, 2012, 8:46 PM
Darsow and Cassanova FUCKING BLEW.
Rest of the show's been good so far.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
July 5th, 2012, 8:49 PM
Darsow is fucking brutal. Cassanova's nothing but a reckless spot monkey, but looked great compared to Darsow.
Match sucked, but IMO any match involving Darsow would.
takerson
July 5th, 2012, 8:50 PM
Cassanova wasn't even a good spot monkey. He was botching everything. Absolutely terrible.
Miss Tessmacher. :drool:
Cold_Hearted_Truth
July 5th, 2012, 9:07 PM
Styles/Daniels feud has been going on for over a year now :o
JT4104
July 5th, 2012, 9:16 PM
Kenny King on TNA? Since when did ROH/TNA start another working relationship? Am I missing something?
Cold_Hearted_Truth
July 5th, 2012, 9:21 PM
These 2 X matches tonight have been completely filled with botches (probably not best time to be live). King pretty impressive at the finish.
Sinner
July 5th, 2012, 9:28 PM
King vs. Williams for the Belt!
StoneColdWWE316
July 5th, 2012, 11:15 PM
These 2 X matches tonight have been completely filled with botches (probably not best time to be live). King pretty impressive at the finish.
There were a few botches tonight not just the X Matches.
Kev
July 6th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Isn't King currently contracted to ROH, and one of the Tag Champs?
I thought the company was moving towards talent contracts that limit them from working other TV Shows..
G-Fresh
July 6th, 2012, 12:17 AM
Jeff Hardy has done lost his fuckin mind. It amazes me how dumb he looks. That's why I quit doin pills all the time.
Mills
July 6th, 2012, 1:03 AM
King's contract expired, gotta be happy that hes getting his big shot on tv
blackening
July 6th, 2012, 2:10 AM
He is done with ROH after appearing live on last nights show.
ROH-Kenny King Update
The appearance of ROH wrestler Kenny King on another television wrestling program tonight has raised speculation on his future as well as how this appearance could occur.
The contract Kenny King signed in June 2011 expired 11 days ago. Before that expiration, an agreement was reached between Kenny and ROH management for an extension of that contract, with a provision to allow him to negotiate with any other promotions so that he could evaluate his options and any potential interest in him elsewhere. When that short extension concluded he would then be free to accept an offer elsewhere, or sign another long term contract with ROH. Under this agreement, Kenny was free to negotiate but not to wrestle for another organization without ROH's permission.
When Kenny was presented with the written extension reflecting this verbal and handshake agreement, he informed ROH he was unsure if other promotions would accept the negotiation clause. He was told he could take the document to be examined by his attorney or other interested parties before executing it to be reassured any other offers would not be viewed as contract tampering. He also informed ROH that he would keep us apprised of any developments.
He contacted ROH on Tuesday July 3 to inform us that he had a meeting in Orlando on Thursday, July 5, which was within the scope of the agreement he had made. Then, early morning on July 5, he contacted an ROH official to say he would be wrestling on the Orlando event that night. He was told he did not have permission to appear live on television as it violated the agreement that had been made. His response was that the deal he had shaken hands on and agreed to in principle "seemed fair at the time", but "others" had told him it was not, so he did not intend to honor it.
Ring of Honor is disappointed that Kenny has chosen to make this decision, after the company had agreed to and followed through on everything he had asked for at the time of our negotiation. However, we consider this breach of his verbal agreement unacceptable, and regardless of his future employment status with any other wrestling company, ROH will not be doing business with Kenny King going forward.
A statement from ROH will be forthcoming regarding the future of the ROH World Tag Team Championship. Co-holder Rhett Titus remains on the active ROH roster.
JRSlim21
July 6th, 2012, 4:54 AM
Shit just got real. The Pretty Boy Pitbull is better off
son_of_foley
July 6th, 2012, 10:28 AM
Past 2 weeks have even awesome.
MACE
July 10th, 2012, 5:50 AM
Impact is currently better than any WWE product right now.
takerson
July 10th, 2012, 9:52 AM
I actually agree. It's been a long time since I've been able to say it, but it is now fucking official. It's funny how that coincides with the Bischoffs being taken off TV and Hogan cutting back a little bit on TV time. :lol:
Everything's just clicking. The BFG Series FEELS important this year. The World Title FEELS important (for the first time since they dropped the NWA belt). Everything's just running on all cylinders. Hell, they're even making the Impact Zone be a loud/entertaining crowd for the first time in 5 years. :lol:
StoneColdWWE316
July 10th, 2012, 1:13 PM
Maybe its just me but outside of Aries Push/winning the World Title and this past PPV nothing is really blowing me away on Impact.
Cewsh
July 10th, 2012, 1:16 PM
Does it need to?
Punisher
July 10th, 2012, 1:41 PM
My feeling has always been have one angle that REALLY grabs me and the rest of the show at least be solid and I'll be very much entertained and Impact has done a good job of that lately.
I'm also into the whole Joey Ryan angle as well.
greebull
July 12th, 2012, 12:53 PM
PREVIEW FOR TONIGHT'S SHOW: (8PM ET, SPIKE [Pre-Show Recap at 7PM ET])
-Show will open with Bully Ray vs. Joseph Park in an unsanctioned, No DQ match.
-Knockouts Title on the line: That Girl From Hooters (c) vs. Gail Kim
-In a Bound for Glory Series Match, Kurt Angle looks to rebound (after his loss Sunday night) vs. MISTERRRRR ANDER-SONNN! (Anderson!)
takerson
July 12th, 2012, 6:33 PM
Should be a great main event! :yes:
I honestly cannot wait for Impact tonight. :hyper:
My credential from The Destination X VIP Experience would actually get me in to Impact 1st tonight as well as a post show meet'n'greet... but I don't have the $65 for gas and parking. Dammit.
takerson
July 12th, 2012, 8:15 PM
I was hoping they'd go this route. Joseph IS Abyss, suffering from multiple personality disorder. :lol: This could be fun.
Can't wait to see where Aries/Roode goes.
RVD/Joe was good, but short.
Good GOD this AJ storyline is unwatchable. :(
lotjx
July 12th, 2012, 9:02 PM
As much as I dislike the AJ/Daniels/Crack Whore. I really dislike making the injury a large part of getting someone some heel heat. Then again, Owen/Austin. Good X-Division match though.
Judas Iscariot
July 12th, 2012, 9:55 PM
Actually bothered to put this on as I wrap up some work and it ain't half bad.
I really like how the backstage segments are shot. Makes it feel more real than every wrestler getting special background lighting.
EDIT: Fuck, Sting. Great.
Hero!
July 12th, 2012, 10:02 PM
Fun IMPACT for the first one i've watched in fulled in almost 2 years. Good matches, some good promos...really like Zema's phrases and the tone of Aries' promo.
Nimrod
July 12th, 2012, 10:23 PM
amazing impact. i thought it was flawless beginning to end. damn i'm suprised... i actually enjoyed the knockout title match too and i've HATED women wrestling for a while now. Tna is awesome now. The aces and 8 part could of been better but it wasn't that bad.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
July 13th, 2012, 1:43 AM
Solid Impact.
Looks like we're getting Sting/Hogan together at BFG. Smart move to do this going to unknown territory (PHX) for 1st time. Probably doubtful, but I'd like to see these masked guys go over (vs. being the end of them after losing to Sting/Hogan). Looks like it'll be Aces/8s vs. Sting/Hogan/Devon/Garrett. Garrett beat down backstage early during event....comes out end of match and turns on Sting/Hogan/Devon & it's revealed he's the mastermind behind this group. If Garrett's in the company, he needs to be a heel. (whether it be as wrestler or manager)
Still not into the whole Claire thing. Pretty obvious she was with Daniels/Kaz to begin with the bizarre storytelling.
Bully/Park has been amazing work by both. Never thought I'd enjoy anything involving Abyss. Bad part is it looks like he'll morph into Abyss....and hard to say what exactly he'll do after this whole Bully Ray thing ends. Bully's been awesome in his singles heel role.
Judas Iscariot
July 13th, 2012, 2:23 AM
I haven't paid any attention to TNA and have often derided them but I did dig what I initially saw as background noise tonight, going so far as to stop working, stand up and look at the television.
The whole Maury Show, "You ARE the child's father!" is just stupid and screams Russo, but he's not there anymore, right?
Fill me in, who are the masked dudes? I like them. Have they been around a while? I thought the whole Hogan entrance theme for 30 minutes was stupid (also I don't need to see Sting these days), but when it turned out he got jumped and then when they attacked Sting, I was like, "Man, I'm actually going to watch next week now."
I do hate Tenay, though. I hate him. The sound of his voice makes me not want to watch. And I hate the Impact Zone and how most of the people are tourists who were late for some ride, but the chants during Austin Aries promo were pretty great.
Apparently they're going to be by me soon in Brooklyn? I may see if I can hit that up.
Cewsh
July 13th, 2012, 9:05 AM
Nope, Russo no longer works there.
We don't know who the masked guys are yet, aside from Hulk Hogan getting mysterious notes about "Aces and 8s" which is known in cards as the Dead Man's Hand. Aside from them fucking with Hogan, we don't know much as of yet.
mth
July 13th, 2012, 10:05 AM
The Dead Man's Hand?! UNDERTAKER TO TNA?!/1 :shocked:
G-Fresh
July 13th, 2012, 11:12 AM
Dead Mans Hand is what Hogan calls the Stranger.
Mr_Nobody
July 13th, 2012, 6:35 PM
I haven't watched Impact in over a year, and after reading the results to Destination X, which seemed to be a pretty solid show, I decided to tune in, and I must admit, I'll tune in again next week as well. Truth be told the only part of the show I didn't like was the "Baby Daddy" storyline. It needs to go away.
MikeSportsFan
July 13th, 2012, 7:02 PM
i like to know who those guys were that attacked hogan & sting last night. BTW, next week is open fight night on Impact
Mr_Nobody
July 14th, 2012, 7:17 AM
I think Jarrett is one of them. There's a big guy in the group that has a very similar build to Luke Gallows. Not sure of the rest.
McBain
July 14th, 2012, 7:19 AM
Someone mentioned Chris Masters recently. Going on build is always tricky though when they're masked because it's rarely the actual guys they have in mind until they do the reveal.
JRSlim21
July 14th, 2012, 9:45 AM
In Aces & Eights we've found 8 men who are willing to walk alone, in the unknown....and live to win....another....victory...ah damn it!
Word
Cewsh
July 14th, 2012, 10:54 AM
Chris Masters has been hinting heavily on his Twitter that his fans shouldn't worry about badmouthing TNA for not signing him yet because "you never know."
MikeSportsFan
July 20th, 2012, 9:32 AM
[b]Impact Results for 7/19
Samoa Joe defeated D'Angelo Dinero in 3:21 via submission to earn 10 points in the BFGS.
Robbie E defeated Jeff Hardy via countout in 2:47 for five points in the BFGS.
Mr. Anderson defeated AJ Styles in 13:34 via pinfall to earn seven points in the BFGS.
Christopher Daniels defeated RVD in 4:43 to earn seven points in the BFGS.
Bully ray defeated Magnus in 4:44 via pinfall to earn seven points in the BFGS.
Austin Aries vs. Bobby Roode ended in a no-contest in 13:15
JRSlim21
July 26th, 2012, 8:44 PM
Aries should continue to do the title shot cut list.
lotjx
July 26th, 2012, 9:08 PM
Storm and AJ having a hell of a match.
JRSlim21
July 26th, 2012, 9:23 PM
2 Barry Darsow references? Epic
MikeSportsFan
July 26th, 2012, 11:04 PM
Impact Results for 7/26
Gail Kim and Madison Rayne defeated Mickie James and Tara
Douglas Williams defeated Sam Shaw
AJ Styles vs. James Storm ended in a no-contest to each earn two points in a Bound For Glory Series Match
Zema Ion defeated Kenny King to retain the X-Division Championship
Kurt Angle defeated Bully Ray via pinfall to earn seven points in a Bound For Glory Series Match
JRSlim21
July 27th, 2012, 6:48 AM
I wonder if Aces & Eights will get a fake James Storm to join them and then when the real Storm gets to the battle between them & TNA, he walks out on everyone
Jacknife
July 27th, 2012, 1:15 PM
Has a Guerrero won a title in ROH? If not then Chavo you lie! DIRTY LIAR!
Cewsh
July 27th, 2012, 2:05 PM
Eddie wrestled exactly 2 shows for ROH before they even had titles.
Dynamite Skid
July 27th, 2012, 8:19 PM
Just caught the show, nice twist with Storm, its even got me wondering.
Whats the deal with Roode & King though, I don't get how Aries would really care
JRSlim21
July 28th, 2012, 3:27 PM
Well, they've touched on Aries and King's past (in ROH, FYI) by acknowledging the fact they were friends before King came into TNA. Naturally, Roode would go after Aries' friend to piss him off.
Just to throw logic in there
Funboy
July 29th, 2012, 12:47 PM
They need to reveal *something* about aces and eights soon. I loved their initial impact and beatdowns but if we get thee or more weeks of it, it'll lose it's steam.
Even capture and unmask one of them and try get him to talk.
Something to keep it moving in a positive direction.
Punisher
July 29th, 2012, 3:59 PM
Well, they've touched on Aries and King's past (in ROH, FYI) by acknowledging the fact they were friends before King came into TNA. Naturally, Roode would go after Aries' friend to piss him off.
Just to throw logic in there
I think that's part of it but I also think the reason why Roode attacked King was to cost him his "opportunity." I believe he said something to the camera about ruining opportunities (presumably out of hate on how Aries cashed in on his opportunity at Destination X).
greebull
August 2nd, 2012, 10:54 AM
'iMPACT WRESTLING' Match Preview:
(LIVE @ 8PM ET on SPIKETV)
-'Bound for Glory' Series Match: James Storm vs. Kurt Angle
-(World Champ) Austin Aries / Kenny King vs. Bobby Roode / (X-Division Champ) Zema Ion
-Chavo Guerrero vs. ???
-4-Way Knockouts #1 Contender's Match: Gail Kim vs. Madison Rayne vs. Mickie James vs. Tara
takerson
August 2nd, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sounds like a great show, again, can't wait. :)
Hero!
August 2nd, 2012, 10:05 PM
What a weird ending. Storm calls out aces & eights, he and bully ray get into it, angle holds back rude only for AA to randomly come in and then...there's 2 brawls going on as the crowd is silent and Kurt Angle just stands around in the middle of it. Seemed to pointless.
Other than that, the women's match went on WAY too long and the baby shower was kind of boring. Meh, 5/10 show tonight.
StoneColdWWE316
August 2nd, 2012, 11:38 PM
Other than the Opening Tag this was really a blah Impact. Bully Ray/Zack Ryder Version 2.0 was pointless,why is Robbie E even in the Tournament? The 4-Way KO Match was just sloppy and a dumb ending. The Daniels/Kaz/Claire thing was HORRIBLE,I wish they would end that dumb Storyline. Angle/Storm is alright but odd ending with everyone standing around and 2 fights. I think TNA's little hotstreak has ended.
DaSaintFan
August 3rd, 2012, 12:43 AM
The opening tag was brilliant.. (especially how they started it off, even before Impact kicked off).
The A&8s bits were pretty good and served a purpose... especially with Brisco right there among Angle, Devon, and Bischoff... Anyone who can't see that foreshadowing, ain't been watching wrestling
I'm like everyone else...why is Robbie E even in the BfG series? I guess they had to have one jobber in there...
The KO match.. SLOPPY!! And i hate storylines that involve referees like this... (didn't they do this storyline previously with the Beautiful people and another official? And I thought Brooke was going to make sure the division was taken seriously?)
Chavo vs. Kash... Dunno, that match was just missing something for me.
ODB/EY - Please, can we just drop this stupid idea? I was willing to give it a chance (as i like EY in his comedy role.. but that was just... PAINFUL!
The Baby-shower.. what the hell was that point of that?
The Angle/storm match was very good (IMO), and I actually liked the fact that Bubba jumped in to try to further hurt his opponent for next week. (I mean there was honestly no reason for bubba to be out there originally, as he (to my recollection) wasn't ever jumped by A&8's). I'll be honest, when Brooke got the cards, I was kind of expecting the video cameras to show A&8's ambushing/kidnapping Brooke while the key players, especially Sting, were at ringside, especially when they pointed out that Hogan asked him to keep an eye on her... and I didn't even get that.
But I guess they have to keep the Storm is he/isn't he A&8's.... (which I like the fact that Sting is in this storyline, ala the old Sting - NWO is he/isn't he bit)
(Of course, one other flaw.. did Sting ever ask the guy who delivered the package what the guy looked like who dropped it off?)
Hero!
August 3rd, 2012, 12:16 PM
Chavo is looking bad in the ring. He's slow, uncharasmatic, and wrestles like any other Eddie clone. Why was this guy talking so much trash when he got let go from wwe?
Jacknife
August 3rd, 2012, 12:19 PM
Chavo was better before he became Eddie Lite.
takerson
August 3rd, 2012, 12:41 PM
I enjoyed Impact again this week. It WAS weaker than it has been, but STILL miles better than just a few months ago.
The best thing about it is that I'm really curious as to where everything is going. I care. That's what matters.
Well, except for the AJ storyline, but I fast-forward that segment every week so it's like it doesn't exist. :lol:
JAMES STORM vs. BULLY RAY
AJ STYLES vs. KURT ANGLE
ROB VAN DAM vs. D'ANGELO DINERO
in the BFG SERIES next week on Impact. GREAT MATCHES, can't wait. :yes:
Sinner
August 3rd, 2012, 2:39 PM
STORM WINS
ANGLE WINS
POPE WINS
takerson
August 3rd, 2012, 4:00 PM
AUSTIN WINS!
AUSTIN WINS!
AUSTIN WINS!
STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COOOOOLD!
takerson
August 9th, 2012, 6:10 PM
Impact's on tonight. Go-Home show for Hardcore Justice.
Bound For Glory Series Matches tonight:
Kurt Angle vs. AJ Styles
Rob Van Dam vs. The Pope
James Storm vs. Bully Ray
That's a PPV card in it's own right. Looking forward to it, looking forward to the PPV itself even more. :hyper:
StoneColdWWE316
August 9th, 2012, 7:26 PM
Are you going?
takerson
August 9th, 2012, 7:33 PM
The PPV, yes. :)
StoneColdWWE316
August 9th, 2012, 7:45 PM
Where are you sitting this time?
takerson
August 9th, 2012, 7:59 PM
Well, it's general admission... and I'll be on the "free" line outside of Universal... So I'll be waiting all day to get in.... and will be one of the last people in the door. 99.99% chance of not being visible on TV. Worst seats in the house, but it's a small building, so the worst seats in the house are still $70 tickets to a Smackdown taping or $100 tickets to a WWE PPV.
Last time I paid to get in first. $100 a pop.
MikeSportsFan
August 9th, 2012, 11:20 PM
[b]Impact Results for 8/9
RVD defeated Magnus via pinfall in 3:13 to earn seven points in the BFGS.
Christopher Daniels and Kazarian defeated Garett Bischoff and Devon to retain the TNA Tag Team Championships in 4:05.
Kurt Angle defeated AJ Styles in 12:39 via pinfall to ear seven points in the BFGS.
Miss Tessmacher defeated Gail Kim in 3:37.
Bully Ray defeated James Storm in 10:45 via pinfall to earn seven points in the BFGS.
injera70
August 13th, 2012, 1:08 PM
I was at that show and had a great time. This was my first live TNA event.
Dreyski
August 14th, 2012, 5:58 PM
[b]Impact Results for 8/9
RVD defeated Magnus via pinfall in 3:13 to earn seven points in the BFGS.
Christopher Daniels and Kazarian defeated Garett Bischoff and Devon to retain the TNA Tag Team Championships in 4:05.
Kurt Angle defeated AJ Styles in 12:39 via pinfall to ear seven points in the BFGS.
Miss Tessmacher defeated Gail Kim in 3:37.
Bully Ray defeated James Storm in 10:45 via pinfall to earn seven points in the BFGS.
Can you spoiler this stuff for us living in the UK?
greebull
August 16th, 2012, 4:51 PM
Announced Matches for Tonight's Show:
(ALL 'BFG SERIES' MATCHES)
-AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels
-Bully Ray vs. Jeff Hardy
-Magnus vs. Samoa Joe
takerson
August 16th, 2012, 5:51 PM
Sweet. Looking forward to it. :yes:
StoneColdWWE316
August 16th, 2012, 7:10 PM
Am I the only one thats over AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels Matches every week? It seems like they meet every week and the Feud is just stale as hell. Let AJ face Joe or Jeff Hardy but enough with Daniels.
takerson
August 16th, 2012, 8:01 PM
I totally agree that TNA has inexplicably managed to make one of my favorite matches of all time (AJ vs. Daniels) into a stale/cheesy feud that has now officially been going on for 14 months.... but I'll be damned if they don't pull out a good match every time still. :lol:
Ray vs. Hardy should be good too, and I'm curious how Magnus/Joe will play out.
takerson
August 16th, 2012, 8:05 PM
Starting a show with A Double's never a bad thing. :) Good promo too. "Please... come into my ring". YES
takerson
August 16th, 2012, 9:33 PM
Hey look it's what's-her-name who used to be ECW GM
Vandal
August 16th, 2012, 9:36 PM
:lol:Did you guys see Brook Hogan wipe the fuck out!!!:lol:
JRSlim21
August 16th, 2012, 9:40 PM
I would never let Brooke Hogan introduce me to her Dad let alone debut someone after that delivery
JT4104
August 16th, 2012, 10:12 PM
Man.......wish they hadn't done the attack on Storm so quick. Could have really played that one out for a while. Just pray that Hogan isn't behind it because there is no need for him to be in the spotlight right now.
JRSlim21
August 16th, 2012, 10:19 PM
As long as it isn't Hogan behind Aces & Eights, there shouldn't be too much of an issue with the group
StoneColdWWE316
August 16th, 2012, 10:27 PM
Brooke Hogan falling down was funny as hell. What was the point of changing the KO Champion twice in the same week?
Cold_Hearted_Truth
August 17th, 2012, 1:56 AM
Brooke Hogan falling down was funny as hell.
:lol: Amazing how much of a failure she is. At everything in life.
Oldest looking 24 year old I've ever seen. She looks like she's in her 50's/60's.
MikeSportsFan
August 23rd, 2012, 9:40 PM
Impact results so far:
Tara defeated Miss Tessmacher in a non-title match in 2:45.
Robbie E defeated Rob Van Dam and A.J. Styles in 12:55 to earn seven points in the BFG Series.
Jeff Hardy defeated Robbie T in 2:35.
Gunner pinned Chris Lewie in 2:50 in the Gut Check match.
JT4104
August 23rd, 2012, 10:00 PM
Umm...this brawl is oh i dunno making the A's and 8"s look really really bad. Taking out Arms? is Brock Lesnar a part of this group?
DaSaintFan
August 23rd, 2012, 10:02 PM
actually it made a lot of sense... you think all those bodies were the key players? Of course not.. they hired a bunch of "Goons" to narrow it down to who was left in the ring.. and then the key 5 (it's always been 5 or 6?) jump the guys left behind... it was a very well done storyline through the show, and the A&8's came out looking pretty smart... sending everyone after the "ghosts" leaving behind the victim, AA.
MikeSportsFan
August 23rd, 2012, 10:07 PM
IMPACT Results for 8/23/12
Tara defeated Miss Tessmacher in a non-title match in 2:45.
Robbie E defeated Rob Van Dam and A.J. Styles in 12:55 to earn seven points in the BFG Series.
Jeff Hardy defeated Robbie T in 2:35.
Gunner pinned Chris Lewie in 2:50 in the Gut Check match
Mr. Anderson defeated Bully Ray by pinfall in 11:45 to earn seven points in the BFG Series.
JT4104
August 23rd, 2012, 10:09 PM
actually it made a lot of sense... you think all those bodies were the key players? Of course not.. they hired a bunch of "Goons" to narrow it down to who was left in the ring.. and then the key 5 (it's always been 5 or 6?) jump the guys left behind... it was a very well done storyline through the show, and the A&8's came out looking pretty smart... sending everyone after the "ghosts" leaving behind the victim, AA.
Not really seeing it that way...but I can see where you are coming from in a way they might be headed. One thing is for sure ole Luke Gallows is looking huge as the "leader" of the group at this point.
JRSlim21
August 26th, 2012, 7:04 PM
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And with that this can be put to rest. Aces and 8s, it's now your ball to drop.
It would be nice if they had 7 members and they could do a best of 7 to put them over. If there's 1 thing learned from Nexus, TNA needs to continue to make them look bad ass to keep them over. And if I may ramble on, I'm glad there's no dominant Cena type here because everything comes off looking evenly matched.
Newf
August 27th, 2012, 2:47 AM
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And with that this can be put to rest. Aces and 8s, it's now your ball to drop.
It would be nice if they had 7 members and they could do a best of 7 to put them over. If there's 1 thing learned from Nexus, TNA needs to continue to make them look bad ass to keep them over. And if I may ramble on, I'm glad there's no dominant Cena type here because everything comes off looking evenly matched.
This. Yes. God. I had a long post typed up in the Aces & 8s thread I never bothered submitting, but it basically echoed that.
Granted, without being able to recall specifics (and being too lazy to look it up) I don't know how long this has been going compared to Nexus and when it first started... and it could go south still. But like you said, they seem to have made them look credibly threatening so far, with the roster united against them and such.
It seems to me, as someone who doesn't REALLY follow TNA but reads the recaps and watches key segments when they post them to YouTube, that for all the shit they've gotten over storylines like the AJ and Claire thing, TNA does seem to know how to make most of their talent look good when compared to each other. There a divide between X-Division and everyone else in terms of style, sure, but there isn't that main-event and everyone else divide, at least from my perspective, that exists in WWE. Take a guy like Robbie E. Basically their Zack Ryder. Probably no better on the mic or in the ring, maybe not even as good... but there he is mixing it up with bonafide main eventers on a regular basis, even before the BFG series.
Rip
August 27th, 2012, 4:05 AM
One thing TNA has is the ability to switch peoples place on the roster at almost no notice, yes they have their 'top guys' but they are willing to mix and match who goes where (and not just to feed the big names easy wins either) now you can spin this both ways since it's easy to say it's because they have no long term ideas, or that they have no depth of talent so everyone is closer together, but still for me it's one of the reasons I held faith in the damn place, you could always see someone like Bully Ray getting the chance to really get a shot.
JRSlim21
August 27th, 2012, 8:58 AM
It's easy when guys you've marketed well over the years (Styles, Daniels, Joe, Aries... Angle you can toss in) are versatile enough to have a decent match with anyone on the roster, while also being able to chase any title they wish.
Funboy
August 29th, 2012, 9:07 PM
Hogan snorting/growling like a dog was the most depressing thing...
StoneColdWWE316
August 29th, 2012, 9:25 PM
Hogan snorting/growling like a dog was the most depressing thing...
Hogan at the forefront of a Wrestling Show in 2012 is depressing.
Kev
August 29th, 2012, 9:33 PM
Well, Devon's gone.
Shame, he may not have had a terribly extensive move-set but he was charismatic as hell and was more than solid in the ring.
:beer:
I do find it rather odd that management decided to let him go while being a current title holder..
Cold_Hearted_Truth
August 29th, 2012, 9:41 PM
Well, Devon's gone.
Shame, he may not have had a terribly extensive move-set but he was charismatic as hell and was more than solid in the ring.
:beer:
I do find it rather odd that management decided to let him go while being a current title holder..
after he won at the ppv,i figured they resigned him. not sad he's gone at all. his selection as tv champ was very odd. wish him the best. got to figure him/bully may be heading elsewhere soon
hope the tv title goes to someone more youthful and better in the ring.
McBain
August 29th, 2012, 10:57 PM
Agreed on all points.
I really hope that this doesn't mean Ray is leaving too, but can't believe Devon sees his career in WWE without the other Dudley.
Rip
August 30th, 2012, 3:29 AM
I'd now be very shocked not to see Bully go (or should we now return to Bubba?) they'll both be back in WWE before you know it, Tag Team champs for one more run then Bubba in singles an Devon behind the scenes and working saturday mornings.
Can't blame them though considering this could be their last decent payday contract-wise, Devon will end up a road agent inside three years and Bubba will get a mid-card title and a chance at bieng top heel on Smackdown before long, lets face it WWE is short of good heels and he could/should walk to the top level of Smackdown inside a year.
JRSlim21
August 30th, 2012, 6:19 AM
Bully is suggesting he's gone after BFG now. This reminds me of the time Abyss "left" to the point just about every dirt sheet was reporting it.... only for him to show up at the next PPV.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
August 30th, 2012, 7:18 PM
Has Joseph Park been on Impact recently?? For the first time in his career, I was starting to like that bastard.
Perhaps part of Aces&8s??
JRSlim21
August 30th, 2012, 8:21 PM
If Joseph Parks announces himself as tAces and 8s legal counsel I'll go ape shit.
Newf
August 30th, 2012, 9:29 PM
What's with Sting saying "kay-fab"?
Psycho666Soldier
August 30th, 2012, 9:38 PM
I haven't watched IMPACT in a couple months now. I decided to tune in tonight...pretty good episode so far, but AJ vs. Joe was fucking awesome.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
August 30th, 2012, 9:50 PM
If Joseph Parks announces himself as tAces and 8s legal counsel I'll go ape shit.
:lol: He's gotta be involved with them in some capacity. It'll keep him relevant IMO (whether as their legal counsel or as an actual member/wrestler). Being the ass kisser to Hulk was awful enough previously with Abyss/Hulk and the magical ring!!
Not sure what Sting meant repeatedly saying 'kay fab'.
Great PPV quality matches with Joe/AJ & Angle/Hardy.
badguythomas
August 30th, 2012, 10:03 PM
anyone get a good look at that dudes face. for some reason he looked familiar. like a crossbreed between long haired kaz and jomo.
JT4104
August 30th, 2012, 10:03 PM
That wasn't Jimmy Jacobs was it? I never got a good look at the guy.
JRSlim21
August 30th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Way too tall to be Jacobs. Almost looked like Garrett Bischoff
JT4104
August 30th, 2012, 10:12 PM
Helms perhaps? Dark hair about the same build
JRSlim21
August 30th, 2012, 10:14 PM
OMEGA ACES AND 8S?!?!
JT4104
August 30th, 2012, 10:17 PM
With that being said.....you would assume someone in the crowd would have yelled Helms out or something.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
August 30th, 2012, 10:37 PM
I wasn't paying close attention. I thought it was Jeff Hardy lol.
I just thought it was funny that a lot of guys masks had come off during the fight.
badguythomas
August 31st, 2012, 1:06 AM
Garrett Bischoff or Wes Brisco
Newf
August 31st, 2012, 1:33 AM
Wes Brisco is the guy with the long blondish hair. I thought it was Cliff Compton at first, but now I'm sure that's Brisco.
badguythomas
August 31st, 2012, 1:55 AM
Yeah. I'm thinking its Wes too, But I wouldn't be surprised to see Garrett thrown in there too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPH_NhdTZ6Y
Psycho666Soldier
August 31st, 2012, 3:06 AM
My immediate thought was Kaz like badguy said. Other than that, I had no clue.
EDIT: Watching it on Youtube, and unless you're really familiar with the guy, it's really hard to discern. You only get about 1 second to look at his face from a far view before he lifts up the shirt to tell for sure.
JRSlim21
August 31st, 2012, 5:22 AM
Wes is the guy with the long Pillman blonde hair. Fairly obvious from his brief cameo with Angle a few weeks back
Newf
August 31st, 2012, 10:27 AM
Not really. His hair was in a bun and looked darker and slicker there. But upon Googling some recent pics it's more obvious.
Sinner
August 31st, 2012, 7:57 PM
Was thinking the entire episode that the one main masked dude is Joseph Parks. Then, he shows up.
So did Wes Brisco.
Hmm..
Newf
August 31st, 2012, 8:22 PM
Wes Brisco showed up on this past episode? When?
Sinner
August 31st, 2012, 10:00 PM
Oh, no. I was reference a few weeks back.
Sorries.
takerson
September 6th, 2012, 8:57 PM
Anybody been watching Impact tonight? It's been REALLY good. :yes:
JRSlim21
September 6th, 2012, 8:59 PM
Just tuned in. Interesting so far. Caught the Al Snow/Joey Ryan segment.
Newf
September 6th, 2012, 9:05 PM
I'm watching it. Shame our usual MSN group that does Raw chats isn't doing an Impact chat. I don't usually watch Impact live, but with Raw the way it is lately I felt compelled.
I just really like what TNA's doing lately. I feel they use their TV time better overall and the whole show progresses as a unit towards the final segment while still telling separate stories throughout.
takerson
September 6th, 2012, 9:18 PM
That interrogation segment was lots of fun. Hogan saying "what are you doin'? This wasn't part of the deal..." then SWERVE, BITCHSLAP. :lol: fantastic.
Ray vs. RVD was good too.
All of Impact's been great.
Newf
September 6th, 2012, 9:27 PM
I liked that... I just had to laugh at Hogan telling him to let him live... what, the alternative is actually killing the guy? That's an option?
Also I love the way TNA formats their TV shows... I heard Bischoff in an interview when their new formats came into play talking about, essentially, the 4 different types of shows they'd be doing. His explanation behind it was quite interesting and I love to see it play out. Take what they've done with the tag titles tonight. 4 teams fighting for a chance. Why couldn't they do this over the course of an episode of SmackDown? Have the Usos, Colons, PTPs, Kidd & Gabriel all pleading their case in front of Booker T? I'd hate to see WWE rip off this format exactly, but anything would be better than random tag matches and "number one contenders" matches that don't actually mean anything. How many times have the PTPs been named such in the last while that hasn't led anywhere?
JRSlim21
September 6th, 2012, 9:50 PM
I like the No Surrender card. Also, I can't see Hardy winning.
StoneColdWWE316
September 6th, 2012, 10:58 PM
Minus the BFG Matches No Surrender looks terrible to me. Why are they wasting Austin Aries in a nothing Match?
I really don't care for the way they pick Oppenents for some of these guys. Feels like Im watching a Reality TV Show like Survivor with them saying your voted off the island.
Newf
September 7th, 2012, 12:49 AM
So who IS that big guy that brawled with Aries tonight? I thought that was Gallows before, but his sleeves were short enough that they would've revealed his tattoos if it was.
Atty
September 7th, 2012, 12:51 AM
Anybody been watching Impact tonight? It's been REALLY good. :yes:
It's on right now here.
The tag title match was just on and was absolutely terrific.
ECDUB
September 7th, 2012, 1:11 AM
Minus the BFG Matches No Surrender looks terrible to me. Why are they wasting Austin Aries in a nothing Match?
Really? Really? Really? [/Miz] "A nothing match?" Aces & Eights is probably the hottest storyline going on right now in TNA. Heck, I hadn't watched TNA since Robert Roode lost at Bound for Glory last year. However, I've now watched Impact! two weeks straight because of Aces & Eights. Austin Aries vs. "The Arm Breaker" is far from a nothing match.
DaSaintFan
September 7th, 2012, 3:16 AM
I was surprised they let Joe/Hardy have the rematch this PPV this quickly. I honestly thought Storm was going to choose Joe... Storm over Joe to the arm injury and Bully over Hardy, setting up Storm/Bully final match.
Now.. now I'm not sure what they'll do for the BFG #1 contender... and yes, I loved the Aries/Hogan/"Mike" scene... especially with AA holding the pliers... and i LOVED the fact that "Armbreaker" laid out "Mike" because he was going to give in to a "really pissed off Aries"and talk about A&8's.
Can I say I'm still a fan of Hernandez? (Probably one of the few who love SuperMex when he's paying a face character)... and AJ/Angle vs. Daniels/Kaz _should_ steal the show at No Surrender.
I am confused at one thing... wasn't Al Snow the one judge who voted "yes" for Joey Ryan? So shouldn't Ryan's beef be with Taz? (I understand they don't want to use Taz for any inring stuff... but the logic of this one is throwing me).
chatty
September 7th, 2012, 4:17 AM
I was surprised they let Joe/Hardy have the rematch this PPV this quickly. I honestly thought Storm was going to choose Joe... Storm over Joe to the arm injury and Bully over Hardy, setting up Storm/Bully final match.
Now.. now I'm not sure what they'll do for the BFG #1 contender... and yes, I loved the Aries/Hogan/"Mike" scene... especially with AA holding the pliers... and i LOVED the fact that "Armbreaker" laid out "Mike" because he was going to give in to a "really pissed off Aries"and talk about A&8's.
Can I say I'm still a fan of Hernandez? (Probably one of the few who love SuperMex when he's paying a face character)... and AJ/Angle vs. Daniels/Kaz _should_ steal the show at No Surrender.
I am confused at one thing... wasn't Al Snow the one judge who voted "yes" for Joey Ryan? So shouldn't Ryan's beef be with Taz? (I understand they don't want to use Taz for any inring stuff... but the logic of this one is throwing me).
I think Taz was unable to do any inring stuff through past injuries so they just switched it over to Snow
JRSlim21
September 7th, 2012, 5:31 AM
It's the principle. He lost, so they moved on. Ryan kept annoying him so Snow is pissed.
Storm/Bully happened last year too, with Bully going on to lose to Roode, so I'm surprised they went that route if only for that reason. Part of it slightly deflates my potential idea for....
Actually, after the segment with Bully and Joseph this past week, I'm going full forward with this prediction where I will flat on my face hard if it happens. Roode helps Ray win. I'll say Joe wins since he just lost. Bully beats Joe to go on to face Aries. Armed with a new contract, Bully beats Aries after some TNA-style chicanery from Aces & 8s to reveal himself as the insider letting the group in and becoming the new Impact Wrestling champion. I still don't recall when, if ever, Bully has been jumped by them. I don't think they touched him at Hard Justice. He cleared the ring once Aries got his arm snapped by just his appearance.
And yes, I wrote this exactly how I spoke it out loud to myself.
DaSaintFan
September 7th, 2012, 6:48 AM
I've been leaning the same way as you JR on who the insider is.. I just haven't had anything to back up the suspicion, just circumstantial stuff
For instance: "Mike" is from New York... (aka, Hell's Kitchen)
The desire to get Joseph P. to spill the beans about his investigation
I'd have to go back and look at some of the earlier episodes to see what else was pick-up-able on.. but I remember there was something during the brawl last week that pointed me that way too.. Just can't remember what it was now.
McBain
September 7th, 2012, 9:36 AM
That makes 3 of us with Bully Ray then. I predicted the same thing a few days back - can't remember where though.
Could be great.
mth
September 7th, 2012, 10:43 AM
So who IS that big guy that brawled with Aries tonight? I thought that was Gallows before, but his sleeves were short enough that they would've revealed his tattoos if it was.
Mike Knox?
StoneColdWWE316
September 7th, 2012, 11:26 AM
Really? Really? Really? [/Miz] "A nothing match?" Aces & Eights is probably the hottest storyline going on right now in TNA. Heck, I hadn't watched TNA since Robert Roode lost at Bound for Glory last year. However, I've now watched Impact! two weeks straight because of Aces & Eights. Austin Aries vs. "The Arm Breaker" is far from a nothing match.
Well the Aces/Eights Storyline to me is just not working. Its to convoluted and they still haven't given a reason as to why they are there. So yes Austin Aries is being wasted in this spot.
ECDUB
September 7th, 2012, 1:53 PM
Well the Aces/Eights Storyline to me is just not working. Its to convoluted and they still haven't given a reason as to why they are there. So yes Austin Aries is being wasted in this spot.
Fair enough, we are all entitled to our opinions.
Cewsh
September 7th, 2012, 2:01 PM
Well the Aces/Eights Storyline to me is just not working. Its to convoluted and they still haven't given a reason as to why they are there. So yes Austin Aries is being wasted in this spot.
What's convoluted? A biker themed cult has shown up to kick everyone's asses. It's SUPPOSED to be mysterious and to spark your curiosity and it is working on the vast majority of viewers.
mth
September 7th, 2012, 4:45 PM
It's working on me and I don't even watch TNA.
Rip
September 7th, 2012, 5:09 PM
Mike Knox?
Too bulky
Matthew
September 7th, 2012, 5:18 PM
it is working on the vast majority of viewers.i would not be surprised to find a direct correlation between people who it works on and people who have common sense.
Vice
September 7th, 2012, 5:27 PM
It must be tested. For science.
McBain
September 7th, 2012, 9:07 PM
The only thing I struggle with a little is that they've had so many brawls but only once or twice have they made a concerted effort to take the masks off the guys they're fighting.
I can get past that though.
JRSlim21
September 13th, 2012, 8:17 PM
Nice gesture by Tenay & Taz wishing King well.
JT4104
September 13th, 2012, 8:25 PM
I'm slightly enjoying Hogan more these days....not sure why though.
Newf
September 13th, 2012, 8:59 PM
That thing Jeff does with his eyes is cool. I've seen it before, but tonight was the first time I saw him have them closed so long and then pop them open. Saw it coming but it still made it a cool moment. Love it.
JRSlim21
September 13th, 2012, 9:13 PM
I'm slightly enjoying Hogan more these days....not sure why though.
It's because he's just only talking and not building up to do that thing I feel as though if I mention it, I'll jinx it into actually happening
DaSaintFan
September 13th, 2012, 10:14 PM
I'm slightly enjoying Hogan more these days....not sure why though.
That's easy.. he's pushing storylines without being a major part of storylines.
I loved the tag team set up - Triple threat now at the PPV? Sweet! (cause Chavo / Daniels was just 'off" in my opinion, while AJ/Kazarian rocked, yet again).
And again, I think they've all but put D'Lo in A&8... Hogan points at Snow, Snow points at Pritchard, Pritchard points at Hogan.. and D'Lo just gets to sit there and not really get any of the attention.
Wonder what Parks' "key piece of evidence" will be next week?
JRSlim21
September 13th, 2012, 10:29 PM
Well, technically, D'Lo has been a part of Aces & 8s. He's been under the mask during the early attacks.
McBain
September 14th, 2012, 2:30 AM
That's why he's come to his conclusion.
OD50
September 15th, 2012, 1:01 PM
Nice to see Wes Brisco show up again closer to the (assumed) A&8's 'revelation', most people had probably forgot about his earlier cameo.
Pretty good show, and yeah I haven't had any issues with the Hulkster either as of late. He plays his role pretty good without taking up too much time and space.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
September 15th, 2012, 5:31 PM
Agree Hogan isn't bad anymore. Finally he's gotten over endless attempts trying to tell us how great TNA is (how it's going to a whole 'nother level brother)....and let the product just speak for itself.
Got my BFG tickets today. Hoping they keep it Aries/Hardy. Wouldn't mind Bully included in 3way, but would just as well prefer the 1-on-1 Aries/Hardy encounter. I get the feeling though the big A&8's reveal will be at BFG (and it'll include Bully) so I imagine he'll find a way into that championship bout.
Wish they'd have a tourney or battle royal for the TV belt. Big fan of the belt if they'd used it help get a younger guy(s) over. Felt it was wasted away on Devon.
takerson
September 15th, 2012, 5:39 PM
Good for you, Truth! BFG Tix! I'm jealous. :beer:
Version 6
September 16th, 2012, 6:36 PM
I have watched the last two Impacts and this Aces and 8's thing is really starting to drag me in.
I've noticed that TNA have changed direction somewhat. It might just be a coincidence in the two shows that I've seen lately. It's a more adult product than WWE, but instead of "adult" meaning vulgar or low brow (which I'm not a massive fan of) they've transitioned towards "adult" meaning intricate and involved storylines, which I appreciate.
Also, it looks like the Aces and 8's may have a Sons of Anarchy type structure. I noticed a "Prospect" badge on one of the guys during Hogan's in ring, and a "Vice President" bade on the main guy doing the talking... which could be leading to a "Who is the President/Leader?" type situation.
Cewsh
September 17th, 2012, 1:18 AM
:yes:
McBain
September 17th, 2012, 1:40 AM
Yeah could well happen.
Prospects trying out will be another way to add interest to the group dynamic.
I really hope the reveal is handled well. But pleased to see a new stable with a fresh feel.
JRSlim21
September 17th, 2012, 7:28 AM
I'm going to put this in spoilers even though no dirt sheet has reported anything but as far as the President could go....
There's a possibility D'Lo Brow is in it, as he's reportedly been under the masks during the massive gang attacks starting back from when they didn't know who was in it. As the President, it may seem a bit far fetched.
Jeff Jarrett could be the guy as he seems to always be a usual suspect, but Impact Wrestling/TNA seems to do a good job of not necessarily giving what's expected. Plus, I believe he's only gone as a competitor but still has ownership with them, which they've always alluded to. Dixie just has controlling interest.
Bully Ray could still be the guy as he is still the only guy untouched by Aces & 8s. He seems to be the odds on favorite and mega heel star in the making with a possible World Title in his future. Food for thought that I just looked up out of boredom: DDP won his 1st world title when he was 43 & JBL when he was 38. So the idea of pushing a guy who was a predominantly midcard feature this late in his career (Bully's 41) is not farfetched.
Bischoff is another 1, but logically it would not make sense since he's "gone." How can someone who is no longer with the company
I won't even put Hogan in this, because at this point even he knows there's no money in that.
DaSaintFan
September 17th, 2012, 7:28 AM
IAlso, it looks like the Aces and 8's may have a Sons of Anarchy type structure. I noticed a "Prospect" badge on one of the guys during Hogan's in ring, and a "Vice President" bade on the main guy doing the talking... which could be leading to a "Who is the President/Leader?" type situation.
I totally missed the badge... Can't believe that one slipped by me. I do remember one of the first brawls where the roster got the advantage, and they had the one guy in the ring.. he bragged that he was getting his "patch" now.. because he took his beating without saying anything about the rest of A&8 (Unlike Mike the cameraman) and even thanked Sting for helping him get the patch.
Bully Ray could still be the guy as he is still the only guy untouched by Aces & 8s.
I still think he's in it.. but I don't think he's the "President"... they'll milk this out .. Bully somehow gets into BFG title match, wins the title because of A&8's (revealing himself as a member, and then "pretends" to be the President).. eventually loses the title at Slammiversary to Storm (but this is just a best guess here), at which point the real "President" reveals himself to feud with Storm for the title (as I figure Storm/Roode should be done by this time.) - if this is the case I really hope it's not Jarrett, as I still have issues with JJ being anywhere near the title picture.
Cewsh
September 17th, 2012, 7:32 AM
I really don't think D'Lo is an official part of this. It just stands to reason that if they need people to pad this out, the road agents would be the first they went to.
McBain
September 17th, 2012, 9:02 AM
Agreed.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
September 17th, 2012, 12:12 PM
All the progress TNA's made, I really really hope they don't once again go down the Jeff Jarrett road.
chatty
September 17th, 2012, 12:46 PM
I can see some sort of swerve happening with whereby he is in the ring with the A&Es looking like he is the insider only for them to turn on him and beat him down. At this point they have played it well where it could be a number of people which is good.
Rip
September 17th, 2012, 3:28 PM
The whole Matt Morgan run in thing at the house shows is oddly timed when they have A&8 doing this on the shows, seems strange to have both running at the same time.
Meanwhile, I doubt D'Lo will be a big player in A&8 but depending on how they handle the reveal, and the logic behind the group, he could be the 'insider' which would allow the leader/President to be someone outside of the current TNA picture (which could play to Bischoff, he gave D'Lo the job, he's into the biker culture, he resents TNA for what 'they' did to him, and Hogan for turning his back on him)
Just thinking...
Cewsh
September 17th, 2012, 3:39 PM
I think D'Lo Brown might be the most underwhelming reveal in wrestling history.
MikeHunt
September 17th, 2012, 3:44 PM
It would certainly be a poor poor choice for a leader figure, the insider though could be alright.
Rip
September 17th, 2012, 4:14 PM
That was my thought, he makes a good patsy for whoever the leader really is, and his position within TNA opens up the storyline to more options.
chatty
September 18th, 2012, 11:51 AM
It could work with D'Lo in it, he just wouldn't be a good person to be a big reveal. He is a road agent though so that could explain how these guys are just walking into the building week by week (well a little bit anyway).
Cewsh
September 18th, 2012, 11:55 AM
The janitor opening a door near where he's mopping could explain it too. Seems a bit far fetched for me.
McBain
September 18th, 2012, 12:17 PM
Would be a pretty good move as a patsy. Stranger things have happened.
JRSlim21
September 18th, 2012, 1:11 PM
This could be worse. For example, the Dungeon of Doom
Cold_Hearted_Truth
September 18th, 2012, 4:18 PM
It won't be him, but I'd rather it be D'Lo than Jeff Jarrett or Eric Bischoff.
TNA's done a good job with Brisco and Joseph Parks in planting the seeds for them to be members. With Brisco having an immediate opponent in Angle.
The guy that usually talks for A&8 I saw some believed was Gallows. The guy just looks too hefty to be him -- I'm thinking it's Parks.
Rip
September 18th, 2012, 5:45 PM
He's not big enough to be Parks, more Gallows in size if you take into account he's normally sitting down.
Version 6
September 18th, 2012, 6:10 PM
Any of Eric Bischoff, Hulk Hogan or Jeff Jarrett being the "President" would be such a massive let down. Especially considering Immortal really wasn't all that long ago.
Either way, they've set this up very well for a staggered reveal. Once they reveal the VP and the rest of the group, there's still the President who (as far as we know) hasn't been sighted on camera with the group yet.
JRSlim21
September 18th, 2012, 6:58 PM
Quick points:
Hogan being the leader is just awful for business. You turn someone so frequently and the program loses value, no matter how big of a star you are.
And it could be anyone in TNA as the leader or the guy letting them in. As we've seen, they have no problem sacrificing their own and attacking them at will.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
September 18th, 2012, 9:23 PM
It's gonna be great the moment where they do the reveal and Joseph Park's is one of them behind the mask. Being rebellious/devious is everything opposite what they've built that normally feeble character on.
Having Hogan/Jarrett/Bischoff, you kill that group and move the company back several years. I'd quit watching the product entirely. You can only make the same mistakes so many times. Build the program with someone that has a future in the business. Not guys whose prime years are a decade++ behind them.
JT4104
September 18th, 2012, 9:42 PM
I'd be surprised if the VP isn't someone pretty well known. Gallows seems to fit the size of the guy and I cant really think of anyone else....DLo seems a little shorter.
I was thinking and god I hope it isn't remotely true...but what about ole King Mo Lawal as the leader? He's a fairly known MMA guy and could always find a way for him to explain why he was behind it.
McBain
September 18th, 2012, 9:48 PM
I thought about him being involved before, but never mentioned it.
It's possible, but would a 'biker' role for him be plausible?
JT4104
September 18th, 2012, 9:53 PM
I thought about him being involved before, but never mentioned it.
It's possible, but would a 'biker' role for him be plausible?
Well I figure they could always go with the whole he hired them storyline or something. I never really thought about the leader having to be a biker and I figure what better way to debut him than that. It establishes him quick as a heel and his attitude in MMA has him hated by a lot of fans anyways. I think it could be a pretty decent fit with him being the guy who is constantly sending guys to do his dirty work because he is to good to do it himself.
Sinner
September 19th, 2012, 1:40 AM
It should be Vinnie Vegas. dressed like Diesel
JRSlim21
September 19th, 2012, 7:33 PM
I thought about him being involved before, but never mentioned it.
It's possible, but would a 'biker' role for him be plausible?
Hey, Ashley Shaeffer hired Reg Mackworthy and his gang to take out Kenny Powers. Anything is possible
StoneColdWWE316
September 19th, 2012, 8:39 PM
Whatever happened to Crimson?
Vandal
September 20th, 2012, 11:22 PM
Enjoyed the show tonight.
Did Aces & Eights kill off Joseph Parks tonight?
Whatever happened to Crimson?
A pledge for Aces & Eights?
Cold_Hearted_Truth
September 20th, 2012, 11:38 PM
I really hope they don't do Aries/Hardy/Bully. Never been a big fan of triple threats headlining a PPV. Particularly your top one. I, for one, am excited for Aries/Hardy.
I'd rather them have Bully in a Team TNA vs. A8's (where he possibly turns).
DaSaintFan
September 21st, 2012, 3:37 AM
My only problem right now with the Aries/Hardy storyline is they're trying WAY too much to have Aries play the "heel' role in this one, although unless they did a major swerve, I guess that's about the only way they can do it.. (This is why I was surprised Hardy won last week)..
Bully proves himself as being the star of the night though... "Did I hear that right?".. (although I was actually expecting AA to try a swanton bomb or something... )
I loved the difference in the use of the crowd between Storm/Roode and Aries/Bully Ray.. The way they did that, in both instances, was absolutely fantastic..
StoneColdWWE316
September 21st, 2012, 11:46 AM
I was not happy with how they did Roode/Storm last night. They basically gave away what thier Match could have been for BFG. What's left for them to do now?
Watching the Aries/Hardy thing too was annoying with it seemingly making Aries out to be a Heel. I kept thinking about the CM Punk Respect Storyline when Austin was talking about how Jeff gets all the reactions and how he wants those reactions as well.
son_of_foley
September 21st, 2012, 2:30 PM
I was not happy with how they did Roode/Storm last night. They basically gave away what thier Match could have been for BFG. What's left for them to do now?
Watching the Aries/Hardy thing too was annoying with it seemingly making Aries out to be a Heel. I kept thinking about the CM Punk Respect Storyline when Austin was talking about how Jeff gets all the reactions and how he wants those reactions as well.
So you're annoyed you got something free rather than paying for it? Makes sense
StoneColdWWE316
September 21st, 2012, 2:52 PM
No just saying if Roode/Storm is suppose to be one of the Big Matches then they could have saved most of what they did last night for the PPV.
Cewsh
September 21st, 2012, 3:22 PM
They needed to rekindle how heated it was earlier in the year. They did. There's plenty left to do in the blow off.
StoneColdWWE316
September 21st, 2012, 4:28 PM
OK but I just wasn't too wild about them doing it is all im saying.
Version 6
September 22nd, 2012, 4:17 AM
I think that's a fair point.
A pull apart might have worked.
Rip
September 22nd, 2012, 5:32 AM
Watching the Aries/Hardy thing too was annoying with it seemingly making Aries out to be a Heel. I kept thinking about the CM Punk Respect Storyline when Austin was talking about how Jeff gets all the reactions and how he wants those reactions as well.
What got me was that they made AA whiney, by all accounts they're going to toss Jeff the belt to try and keep him but why do it at the cost of turning AA?
And wtf is happening with Morgan, is he A&8 part 2 or the second invasion angle on a smaller scale?
OD50
September 22nd, 2012, 5:44 AM
For once (:eek:) I'm going to agree with stonecold316, I thought the Roode/Storm skirmish went on far too long. A much shorter, intense pull apart brawl would have been much better me thinks.
StoneColdWWE316
September 22nd, 2012, 6:43 PM
Yeah I think a pull apart would have been fine but a lengthy thing just kinda kills what could have been their Match at the PPV.
Version 6
September 23rd, 2012, 12:49 AM
Agreed.
OD50
September 24th, 2012, 4:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOSZrDa-t3I
:yes:
Sinner
September 25th, 2012, 2:39 PM
Wait until it turns out that ARM BREAKER from Aces and Eights IS actually Jeff Hardy
lol
Nash Diesel
September 25th, 2012, 3:41 PM
It will be Claire Lynch who is revealed as the brains behind this operation.
takerson
September 27th, 2012, 7:48 PM
Starts in 15. Hoping we get Joe vs. Anderson tonight.
lotjx
September 27th, 2012, 9:08 PM
We did and Anderson looked awful. Joe was literally carrying dead weight at time and I am saying this as someone who thought Anderson was going to be someone in this company. Nice finish though.
takerson
September 27th, 2012, 9:12 PM
Agreed in full.
OH NO! THEY'RE GONNA RAPE HOGAN AND STING!
Sinner
September 27th, 2012, 9:14 PM
"a title held by the likes of Kevin Nash, Mick Foley, Sting, and AJ Styles - Samoa Joe is now the Television Champion!"
or
"a title held by Robbie E, Robbie T, Gunner, and Devon - Samoa Joe is now the Television Champion!"
Jacknife
September 27th, 2012, 9:27 PM
That guy just said the Boss Man is on his way.
Vandal
September 27th, 2012, 9:27 PM
I loved how the crowd was yelling Yes Yes Yes!:lol:
Vandal
September 27th, 2012, 9:32 PM
"Hulkster for the first time in your life this is not about you.":lol:
Jacknife
September 27th, 2012, 9:33 PM
This is brutal to watch. Hogan is so bad here.
JT4104
October 4th, 2012, 8:03 PM
oh please TNA...please shove King Mo in that match, I need a huge laugh.
JRSlim21
October 4th, 2012, 9:29 PM
Anyone else who would come out looking like that would just be ridiculous. Not King Mo lol
Matthew
October 4th, 2012, 10:02 PM
feel like this is setting up wayyyy too hard for a bully turn. seems too obvious
JT4104
October 4th, 2012, 10:07 PM
I'm hoping they are trying to make everyone believe that Bully is going to turn and go a different way. Just pray that way isn't Hogan or Jarrett. Hell maybe Park, or hell even a guy like Aries as dumb as that sounds. I mean Bully is already a heel so what is the point of him being behind it.
For me a face going heel is the way to go...maybe even a high to mid level face not quite at the World Title level but a guy they think can be at that level.
JRSlim21
October 4th, 2012, 11:11 PM
But who would that be? If it had to be someone, I'd prefer it to be a "homegrown" talent. Problem is, there's no 1 who fits the bill at the moment, in terms of babyfaces
Matthew
October 5th, 2012, 12:53 AM
the main guy is obviously suicide. he doesnt even really hide it
JRSlim21
October 5th, 2012, 8:54 AM
It would be hilarious if Daniels and Kazarian called their team Suicide for no reason
McBain
October 5th, 2012, 8:58 AM
Hysterical
Cold_Hearted_Truth
October 11th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Aries/Hardy 'heel turn' ending was extremely extremely forced and rushed. Good lord.
I get looking for additional ppv buys, but it came across like someone said last minute "Hey Austin, run out there and turn heel".
Solid Impact. Hope we get a Sting turn this Sunday :cheers: The Bully turn seems too obvious.
Newf
October 11th, 2012, 10:33 PM
It felt a bit like they were trying to recapture a bit of the Punk/Cena dynamic of late, but I really can't blame them. The more-legitimate bitter guy against the management-backed merch-selling face is a great angle, and the players are different enough that it stands on its own.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
October 11th, 2012, 10:43 PM
Yep seems like that's exactly what they're doing.
Really wish we got Beer Money vs. Aries/Hardy tonight.
The turn didn't feel it had as much impact as it could have. Just felt extremely rushed at last minute.
I don't mind heel Aries at all. Just not a big fan of how they quickly executed everything in <5 minutes against the clock heading into the PPV. Just felt really forced in going with the traditional heel vs. face at last second.
Nimrod
October 12th, 2012, 4:38 AM
tna was dope tonight, ya'll trippin. they set this ppv up great. I'm really hyped for this ppv. CANT FUCKING WAIT. tna did a great job with this.
I really really wanna see joey ryan vs al snow haha i hope it turns out dope
and it's obvious it's either gonna be sting or abyss turning heel sunday
Cewsh
October 12th, 2012, 11:02 AM
After watching last night, the thing that stood out to me the most is just how momentum Aries lost by winning the title. His title reign has really not been very good.
JRSlim21
October 12th, 2012, 7:12 PM
Solid matches but his character has been de-emphasized due to Aces & 8s and the conclusion of BFG Series, which is ironic since they're building up a contender to face said champ. Objectively, I hope they don't take the title from Aries.
Plus, Sting to be the leader of Aces & 8s would be cool if not for the fact that Sting just can't be a true heel. His last "heel" run turned out not to be a real heel run as he was right about Hogan's deception. His time with the Main Event Mafia he was a tweener at most. In WCW he joined up with the nWo, and the fans loved it. There is nothing he can do to get booed.
takerson
October 12th, 2012, 11:02 PM
I disagree with everyone's opinion of Aries' turn seeming too rushed and out of place... it was SUPPOSED to seem rushed and out of place because it was being portrayed as him going out there against their wishes and saying stuff he wasn't supposed to say. I LOVED the comment about "they're too busy making Jeff Hardy videos" because the guy had a new "my last chance" type video every week. I also loved Aries' comment about Jeff being catered to and given so many chances, a thinly veiled shot at what Cewsh himself has spoken out against (Hardy's continued push). I also dug how Aries shot down the "I'm jealous of your success" storyline that made him look like a guy who didn't respect his OWN success and instead was envious of someone else's.
Did the "shoot" come off a bit forced in the wake of CM Punk? Yes. Did it come across well and further hype the BFG main event even more? I think it did, which means it did it's job.
StoneColdWWE316
October 12th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Solid matches but his character has been de-emphasized due to Aces & 8s and the conclusion of BFG Series, which is ironic since they're building up a contender to face said champ. Objectively, I hope they don't take the title from Aries.
Plus, Sting to be the leader of Aces & 8s would be cool if not for the fact that Sting just can't be a true heel. His last "heel" run turned out not to be a real heel run as he was right about Hogan's deception. His time with the Main Event Mafia he was a tweener at most. In WCW he joined up with the nWo, and the fans loved it. There is nothing he can do to get booed.
Let's not forget Sting's failed Heel turn in WCW in 1999 when won the Title from Hogan with help from Luger.
Impact was decent this week and IMO their best one in a long time. They did a good job of hyping BFG though I didn't like the Aries thing as it felt like a CM Punk Respect thing.
Hero!
October 18th, 2012, 8:02 PM
So, these guys' theme is supposed to be a blatant sons of Anarachy rip off, right?
JRSlim21
October 18th, 2012, 8:23 PM
Basically. D-Von is back in preacher mode, and stealing Vince McMahon's "damn it, I said shut the hell up" line.
:lol: at the TNAShop Halloween ad.
Newf
October 18th, 2012, 9:08 PM
I hope Jeff takes up smoking again.
Vandal
October 18th, 2012, 9:44 PM
I thinking what if AA's cookies for Jeff were laced with marijuana.:lol:
McBain
October 18th, 2012, 11:36 PM
Devon. :lol:
Why they thought he would be a suitable reveal at this stage I have no fucking clue.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
October 19th, 2012, 2:27 AM
TNA/Devon did a great job playing it up Devon was gone on Twitter. (With Hogan kissing his ass) I have no issue he was the reveal (given they've established he's not the head)
Would revealing it were Masters / Gallows really done much?? And Briscoe isn't established enough for anyone to give a fuck. (Better off having him randomly attacking Kurt Angle)
I think the big reveal would be better off being Garrett Bischoff than Jeff Jarrett. I pray that they don't ruin this whole big angle ....for Jeff fucking Jarrett. ,The company has made such huge strides. And a big part of that is moving away from Jeff Jarrett. If he's with TNA, he belongs in a backstage, off camera role.
Newf
October 19th, 2012, 3:49 AM
Yeah, I have no issue with it as well. Maybe at the PPV when the majority thought he was the guy it was a bit of a let down but they made it clear tonight he's the "Sgt. at Arms" and that he's not the main guy. My only real issue is that it's been since June and we only have one member revealed... it's dragging, but only a bit. I still wonder what's the alternative... you reveal more guys, and then what? And how do you make the eventual reveal impactful? I don't think I'd mind if it was played off as a sort of Outsiders type thing, acknowledging guys like Masters and Knox and Gallows "came from up there". I did notice Garrett Bischoff out fighting them off to close the show so I'm not so sure he'd be revealed as a member, but who knows?
I notice this Impact preview also includes a preview for Turning Point that says "the truth will finally be revealed", so maybe we won't have to wait much longer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srjYnYKJPWc
MikeHunt
October 19th, 2012, 4:01 AM
I like that they have a face now, Devon was the insider. I don't know if the group will ever be fully revealed, the leader - yes, insider - yes. But to me there is no need to really reveal them, hired faceless thugs. The. When a&8 is finished some of these guys can be quickly and easily repackaged.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
October 19th, 2012, 4:50 AM
I like that they have a face now, Devon was the insider. I don't know if the group will ever be fully revealed, the leader - yes, insider - yes. But to me there is no need to really reveal them, hired faceless thugs. The. When a&8 is finished some of these guys can be quickly and easily repackaged.
I agree. They don't have to reveal them all. I figure Briscoe will eventually revealed by Angle. I'm fine if we never see the rest (Gallows/Masters/etc...).
And I really think Garrett Bischoff will play a prominent role and revealed (storyline being him following in father's footsteps with rebellious outsider group ...plus how close he and Devon were the last several months). He needs some work in the ring obviously, but I think he's got the ability to be a very good heel.
lotjx
October 19th, 2012, 9:28 AM
Aries diss at the Impact fans was great as well as his entire promo. I like Devon in the Sgt at Arms role instead of the leader. ODB/Tara is a better option than most in the KO division.
JRSlim21
October 25th, 2012, 8:05 PM
Wtf?! Did I miss something about Tenay and Taz?
Matthew
October 25th, 2012, 8:09 PM
i missed the opening, but i dont like this dude
Rip
October 25th, 2012, 8:26 PM
Interesting comment on Facebook from Glen Ruth (Thrasher) he commented 'It's TNA time', someone asked when he and Chaz (Mosh) would be there and his reply...'We're working on it'
Matthew
October 25th, 2012, 8:28 PM
nah just seems like every old wrestler who is 'working on' coming back.
JAYD
October 25th, 2012, 8:32 PM
Turned it on 5 minutes late, was weirded out not to hear Tenay/Taz.
Just don't buy Chavo as a babyface, and don't like they have to go with the "they're probably illegals" route either.
Cold_Hearted_Truth
October 25th, 2012, 8:39 PM
Just tuned in during Joe/Rob Terry and thought the same. No Taz, No Tenay.
I know one of them is JB. Don't recognize voice of the other.
JB just sounds like he's cutting a backstage segment calling the match. I'm sure he'll adjust (if this is long term)
Matthew
October 25th, 2012, 8:45 PM
its not borash
JRSlim21
October 25th, 2012, 8:55 PM
Todd Keneley is a Hogan buddy. Did announcing for NWA and Hogan's CCW
McBain
October 25th, 2012, 8:58 PM
What have they got A&8s dudes on commentary? :lol:
Matthew
October 25th, 2012, 9:05 PM
okay so one was borash. im sorry. I ADMIT MISTAKES
but yea they are going for 2 different announce teams? pretty dumb. neither sounds good. yes i am not giving this new team a chance
Matthew
October 25th, 2012, 9:30 PM
this second go-around with the tables turned when it comes to heel/face, bully ray actually made me more interested in this devon shit.
JRSlim21
October 25th, 2012, 9:35 PM
Where the F did they find him!?
JT4104
October 25th, 2012, 9:37 PM
I remember Matthews...but I dont, someone give me a reminder. Also, wow I figured the gut check would be younger guys. York is decent, not sure they can do much with him at this point in his career though.
EDIT: Oh year, Mercury. Damn, my mind is gone tonight. None the less show has been enjoyable tonight.
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