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Beer-Belly
March 19th, 2012, 4:19 PM
Michel Bay is making Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fans nervous. Set aside for the moment any question about whether or not the turtles are anything people should be nervous about — if you’re going to make a movie about mutant turtles, that’s what they should be, right? But a recent statement from Bay suggests that he’s really making a movie about aliens rather than about turtles that rapidly evolve into bipedal creatures thanks to mutagenic ooze.

Speaking about the upcoming Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which Bay’s Platinum Dunes is producing and Jonathan Liebesman (Battle: Los Angeles, Wrath of the Titans) will direct, Bay said:

These turtles are from an alien race, and they are going to be tough, edgy, funny, and completely lovable.

Bay hasn’t yet had anything to say on his own Shoot for the Edit forums, which is where he usually speaks out when questions arise. The director (who is acting as producer on TMNT) could have misspoken, or could be referring somehow to an alien origin leading to the turtle mutation — maybe the ooze is some alien stuff, like the weird energy source in Chronicle that makes the kids develop powers. Or maybe the turtles are really aliens. And again, we’re talking about mutant ninja turtles. But they’re mutant ninja turtles with a lot of fans, and if you’re going to make a film about them, then why bother changing it up?This might be the shittiest idea I've ever heard.

Tramp
March 19th, 2012, 4:38 PM
Money cannot buy the dishonor...

Jimmy Zero
March 19th, 2012, 5:11 PM
Wow, he pretty much did the only thing to the TMNT that would make me not see this movie.

MACE
March 19th, 2012, 6:07 PM
He ruined Transformers and will now ruin this.
Cunt.

mth
March 19th, 2012, 7:59 PM
Effin' odd. Hope that's wrong.

Pipkin
March 19th, 2012, 8:52 PM
Effin' odd. Hope that's wrong.
I didn't watch it, but IGN has a video of Bay supposedly saying it himself.

lotjx
March 19th, 2012, 9:14 PM
This man needs to be removed by any means necessary.

Bill Casey
March 19th, 2012, 9:23 PM
Also, instead of ninjas, they are going to be robots...
And instead of turtles, they are going to be spiders...

The Doc
March 19th, 2012, 9:41 PM
Meh. That's such a silly little change that I both wouldn't mind it and at the same time find it annoying. How can you even call it TMNT if they are actually TANT? Speaking of which did they just not make any money on that new TMNT movie from a few years back? I thought it was okay, sure I would have prefered something a little closer to the "dark" feel of the 2003 Turtles instead of the compromise the show struck between the zanier 90's cartoon and the 2000 cartoon but still it was good enough.

Bill Casey
March 19th, 2012, 9:41 PM
Teenage Alien Robot Spiders
Teenage Alien Robot Spiders

Splinter taught them to be robot teens
Leonardo leads, Donatello does machines
Raphael is cool but crude
Alfredo is a racist stereotype

Teenage Alien Robot Spiders
Teenage Alien Robot Spiders

Tramp
March 19th, 2012, 10:15 PM
Shredder is going to be a stormy purple cloud.

Beer-Belly
March 20th, 2012, 4:20 AM
I wouldn't mind if the turtles get mutated by an alien ooze, but to just have them show up on Earth as strange turtle-like creatures is a fucking awful idea.

Regardless, the movie will almost certainly blow. Michael Bay is objectively stupid, and the actual director doesn't have a decent credit to his name.

Rip
March 20th, 2012, 5:44 AM
Teenage Alien Robot Spiders
Teenage Alien Robot Spiders

Splinter taught them to be robot teens
Leonardo leads, Donatello does machines
Raphael is cool but crude
Alfredo is a racist stereotype

Teenage Alien Robot Spiders
Teenage Alien Robot Spiders

Since they're now Alien Robot Spiders does this make it a high end specialist cyber/necro porn flic?

Droid
March 20th, 2012, 5:54 AM
This sounds like a pretty terrible idea. There have been some Michael Bay stuff i've liked but this probably won't be one of them.

Guy
March 20th, 2012, 7:27 AM
The man and his production company have systematically gone through things I once loved and took an awful dump all over them.

Transformers, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street and now TMNT (which by the way, has apparently dropped the "Teenage Mutant" part and is just called "Ninja Turtles")

I just don't care anymore, I'm sure he'll probably end up re-making Ghostbusters soon (Alienbusters) and afterwards he'll come around to my house and piss on all of my childhood photos.

One Man Gang
March 20th, 2012, 8:23 AM
They'll probably have Krang in this one....only he's from Earth.

:rolleyes:

The_Mike
March 20th, 2012, 9:43 AM
I wouldn't mind if the turtles get mutated by an alien ooze, but to just have them show up on Earth as strange turtle-like creatures is a fucking awful idea.

Regardless, the movie will almost certainly blow. Michael Bay is objectively stupid, and the actual director doesn't have a decent credit to his name.

I actually really like The Island but other than that, can't stand the guy. And he does seem genuinely clueless, but I guess you can't be too stupid if you make terrible movies, slap a thousand explosions over it, and make obscene amounts of money almost every time. He just has no integrity.

Doing this to the Turtles just seems like being contrary for the sake of it. It has become something of a fashion in Hollywood lately, to 'reinvent' something to mask the fact that no studios are coming out with anything remotely creative or new anymore. Once upon a time we had the Star Wars and Indiana Jones franchises launched within a few years of one another, around the time of really high quality output like The Godfather and Taxi Driver. What new movies and characters are being produced these days that will still be fondly remembered in 30 years time assuming Lucas doesn't fuck them up? Lord of the Rings is the last new franchise I remember that people still give a shit about, and that's based on a book from the 1950s. I guess maybe Bourne, those books are more recent and the films were really good. That's a long time ago, though, and they're just dipping back into that well without even using Jason Bourne himself, because I guess slapping the name on it will sell a bog standard spy movie so much better. Is there really nothing new under the sun?

ReDPath
March 20th, 2012, 1:07 PM
I've long felt the TMNT franchise has been a dead waste and really doesn't seem necessary to revisit.

I just feel like it was an 80s fad that dried up pretty quick going into the mid 90s even after the lame live action tv show, the red sky cartoon seasons and the new generation show that to me all served as lame attempts to defib the franchise including the 07 reboot/sequel.

Which brings us back to Michael Bay. I think we can all agree on one thing he does and does it well enough.

Make money for a studio regardless of his tired formula for doing so. That doesn't mean the movie will be worth fuck all of course but it means he will put enough into the film to make it work for newer generations.

- April will surely be a model hot off the presses of Victoria Secret
- Splinter will in fact be his human form instead
- Mike will be the lame comedy, think the twins from Transformers 2
- Leo will be the equivalent of Bayformers Optimus Prime meaning he will just take everything by himself without a sweat
- Raph will infact be a rapper
- Don will be the equivalent of Ratchet in the Bayformer films, meaning 5-10 percent screen time/lines
- Bebop and Rocksteady will be only thing Bay does right if they go that route

Still even with Bay's name attached and all the Bay studio manufacturing that can be done to defib the franchise. I'm still not sure the Turtles work in the modern era regardless if its Bay's studio style or Nolan or whomever you want to throw at the source material.

The best 'Turtles' related material in the last decade plus was in fact the tv movie 'Turtles Forever' which was a crossover between the comic turtles, 80s turtles and the new age turtles. Admittedly they probably overdid the 80s Turtles lameness but THAT IMO was the last good thing to come out of the franchise.

Vice
March 20th, 2012, 1:19 PM
Michael Bay, the producer of next year's live-action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, has addressed the widespread negative reaction fans had upon hearing that Bay and Co. have reconceived the heroes in a half-shell as aliens.

In a posting at his Shoot For The Edit blog forum, Bay said, "Fans need to take a breath, and chill. They have not read the script. Our team is working closely with one of the original creators of Ninja Turtles to help expand and give a more complex back story. Relax, we are including everything that made you become fans in the first place. We are just building a richer world."

I bet reading the script would up the bashing 1000%.

Guy
March 20th, 2012, 1:46 PM
There's no such thing as relaxing when Bay is involved, the man doesn't have a decent film to his name.

He has some pretty large explosions and badly edited action scenes.

And lens flare.

Vice
March 20th, 2012, 1:55 PM
The Rock is a guilty pleasure of mine, I must admit. Loved the cast, amazing score, etc.

Definitely a decent action movie at the very least if you turn your brain off a bit.

Atty
March 20th, 2012, 1:59 PM
So this is what aids feels like...

Droid
March 20th, 2012, 2:10 PM
The Rock is a guilty pleasure of mine, I must admit. Loved the cast, amazing score, etc.

Definitely a decent action movie at the very least if you turn your brain off a bit.

I agree with this too. I think it's quite good.

MACE
March 20th, 2012, 2:12 PM
Michael Bay Signs $50M Deal To Fuck Up 'ThunderCats'

http://www.theonion.com/articles/michael-bay-signs-50m-deal-to-fuck-up-thundercats,2702/

Atty
March 20th, 2012, 2:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Tramp
March 20th, 2012, 2:15 PM
There's no such thing as relaxing when Bay is involved, the man doesn't have a decent film to his name.

He has some pretty large explosions and badly edited action scenes.

And lens flare.

I actually think Bay is a good director that just has terrible taste.

Atty
March 20th, 2012, 2:18 PM
...who's a terrible director.

The Doc
March 20th, 2012, 2:21 PM
I think the Matrix will be remembered. And if you aren't limiting yourself to movies Buffy and 24 will likely be remembered as well.

Aside from being pissed at Micheal Bay being a semi-pro sport I don't see why anybody cares how the turtles came to be. It's not like the stories ever really go into their childhood so a four turtles and a rat who survive a crash isn't much different from four turtles mutated from ooze. Kinda like it wouldn't change a whole lot if Clark Kent was a mutant (X-men style) instead of an alien. The same stories would be told with a slightly different minor detail.

I'm glad that the only time I liked Transformers was during Beast Machines though so my childhood didn't get the severe raping that everybody elses seems to have over the Transformers flicks. Cus I can feel your pain sometimes.

Also Friday the 13th wasn't THAT bad. Its certainly no worse than 5 (fake Jason), 7 (vs Carrie), 8 (Takes Manhattan) 10 (In Space) and debatably 4. Honestly it's biggest flaw is the same as the Nightmare on Elm Street Reboot. They should have slapped a number on it and made up some BS reason why this was so similar to the earlier events.

Tramp
March 20th, 2012, 2:21 PM
Rethinking what I just said, I say he'd be better as a DP rather than a director with all the power.

Atty
March 20th, 2012, 2:25 PM
I think the Matrix will be remembered. And if you aren't limiting yourself to movies Buffy and 24 will likely be remembered as well.

Aside from being pissed at Micheal Bay being a semi-pro sport I don't see why anybody cares how the turtles came to be. It's not like the stories ever really go into their childhood so a four turtles and a rat who survive a crash isn't much different from four turtles mutated from ooze. Kinda like it wouldn't change a whole lot if Clark Kent was a mutant (X-men style) instead of an alien. The same stories would be told with a slightly different minor detail.

I'm glad that the only time I liked Transformers was during Beast Machines though so my childhood didn't get the severe raping that everybody elses seems to have over the Transformers flicks. Cus I can feel your pain sometimes.

Also Friday the 13th wasn't THAT bad. Its certainly no worse than 5 (fake Jason), 7 (vs Carrie), 8 (Takes Manhattan) 10 (In Space) and debatably 4. Honestly it's biggest flaw is the same as the Nightmare on Elm Street Reboot. They should have slapped a number on it and made up some BS reason why this was so similar to the earlier events.

What does he have to do with The Matrix, 24 or Buffy?

The Doc
March 20th, 2012, 2:35 PM
What does he have to do with The Matrix, 24 or Buffy?

Mike brought up that there aren't many new franchises that are worth a damn and the only one he could think of was Lord of the Rings which was written in the 50s. I was replying I think that's a bit of an overstatement. Depending on where you want to set your date for this is when Hollywood ran out of ideas I think I can point out a lot of things that are quality and will be remembered fondly for at least a generation. The Matrix, Buffy and 24 being just off the top of my head.

Guy
March 20th, 2012, 3:31 PM
Buffy started way back with movie in 1992, The Matrix was 13 years ago and 24 started 11 years ago.

I'm pretty sure he meant the latter part of the current decade.

The_Mike
March 20th, 2012, 4:02 PM
Buffy started way back with movie in 1992, The Matrix was 13 years ago and 24 started 11 years ago.

I'm pretty sure he meant the latter part of the current decade.

Exactly.

All of these things predate Fellowship of the Ring as well, Buffy by ten years. It has been the hallmark of 2003 or so onwards that Hollywood just isn't interested in doing anything new. But I was genuinely asking if anybody can think of something more recent that will be well remembered for decades hence. I imagine there's a handful of things I'm overlooking, but it isn't exactly overstating anything to say that Hollywood has been a remake and revisit factory for ten years now. I think it says something when the examples cited against my point are two TV shows (one from the 1990s) and one 1999 movie notorious for its pointless sequels.

Jimmy Zero
March 20th, 2012, 7:19 PM
The Nolan Batman trilogy, though a reasonable argument could be made that it's not exactly a franchise, just a really long ass story.

How about Iron Man?

Though, to your point, neither of those series of films feature a new character.

Hero!
March 20th, 2012, 7:38 PM
the man doesn't have a decent film to his name.


Transformers
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
Transformers: Dark of the Moon

:cool:

Vice
March 20th, 2012, 7:43 PM
Anyone against me banning Hero for that post?

The_Mike
March 20th, 2012, 7:43 PM
The Nolan Batman trilogy, though a reasonable argument could be made that it's not exactly a franchise, just a really long ass story.

How about Iron Man?

Though, to your point, neither of those series of films feature a new character.

Exactly. Nolan's Batman, though, gets points for being genuinely creative with the concept, even if the characters and settings were already built for him.

EDIT: Go for it, Vice.

Unless he agrees with me that The Island was awesome.

Hero!
March 20th, 2012, 7:44 PM
Anyone against me banning Hero for that post?

Oh, shut it, you willow tree. You know you loved them.

Vice
March 20th, 2012, 7:48 PM
They were fucking terrible. My girlfriend took me to see Dark of the Moon because she thought it'd be a nice thing to do for me. She almost cried it was so bad, and I thought it was worse! I didn't get laid for well over a week because of it. To this day, it is one of those things we simply do not speak of.

And Revenge of the Fallen has got to be one of the most awful movies I've ever watched. There is absolutely nothing redeeming about it. When you give Optimus Prime a fucking jetpack and the movie still makes me want to vomit, clearly something terrible has gone wrong.

Jimmy Zero
March 20th, 2012, 7:51 PM
Revenge of the Fallen is easily one of the top 3 worst movies I've ever seen, and this is coming from someone who saw, and enjoyed, The Jerky Boys movie in the theater.

Hero!
March 20th, 2012, 7:55 PM
Dark of the Moon was an amazing film. ROTF wasn't great, but it's a fun popcorn flick.

I don't know what's wrong with you guys.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 20th, 2012, 8:08 PM
Dark of the Moon was an amazing film. ROTF wasn't great, but it's a fun popcorn flick.

I don't know what's wrong with you guys.

Revenge of the Fallen was terrible.

Transformers: 57% (218 reviews)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 20% (237 reviews)
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 35% (234 reviews)

Rotten Tomatoes agrees with me. The first one was ok, and then it just got crazy dumb. Michael Bay can't pace a film properly these days.


Also Michael Bay does have a decent film to his name: Bad Boys.

Beer-Belly
March 20th, 2012, 8:11 PM
The first Transformers is highly watchable stupidity, ROTF is one of the worst movies of all time, DOTM is only fun for the last forty minutes.

Bay's best movie by far is The Rock.

Excel
March 20th, 2012, 8:19 PM
Bay made that? Thats actually a good movie. Thats a shocker

Jimmy Zero
March 20th, 2012, 8:35 PM
The Rock is a great movie. However, that whole broken clock thing would seem to apply here.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 20th, 2012, 8:40 PM
Except it's not so much his Directing which is at fault. It's when he Produces AND Directs that it turns to utter shit. Or just anything he produces. His early films were just directed by him. He needs a producer to stop him making crap.

mr sabu
March 20th, 2012, 9:01 PM
I will only watch this film if the turtles use face huggers and chest rippers...


Ohhh wait im thinking of decent alien's... my bad

The Doc
March 20th, 2012, 9:14 PM
Pirates of the Carribean is after that and I doubt Captain Jack will ever be forgotten. Depending on your idea of lasting the test of time I'd expect Harry Potter to rank up there with Star Wars in terms of being remembered but then again had Star Wars not seen a resurgance with the new movies it might not have had any impact on the twenty and under crowd. It certainly wouldn't have cartoon series currently running so by what measure is remembered?

I'm getting the impression that I'm glad I didn't see Revenge of the Fallen. I remember hating the original and going into the second thinking "well after giant robots hiding behind trees this can't possible get any worse." And being horribly wrong.

Jimmy Zero
March 20th, 2012, 9:25 PM
Don't even bother with Revenge of the Fallen. I envy you since you've never seen it.

Zyphlin
March 20th, 2012, 9:33 PM
Though, to your point, neither of those series of films feature a new character.

To be fair, neither did the Lord of the Rings

The_Mike
March 20th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Pirates of the Carribean is after that and I doubt Captain Jack will ever be forgotten. Depending on your idea of lasting the test of time I'd expect Harry Potter to rank up there with Star Wars in terms of being remembered but then again had Star Wars not seen a resurgance with the new movies it might not have had any impact on the twenty and under crowd. It certainly wouldn't have cartoon series currently running so by what measure is remembered?

Pirates was based on a ride and story from the 1960s but Captain Jack is pretty memorable and creative (except he was created near single-handed by Johnny Depp). Harry Potter was based on a book and the character and story were already massively popular. I think you're misunderstanding my point. I'm not saying no films or characters in the world were memorable after 2003. I'm saying the major Hollywood studios, and the mainstream film industry in general, haven't really put out anything creative that they have actually created on their own since then. Certainly not to the extent of the new, high quality stories and characters of the 70s, 80s and 90s. Pretty much everything is now a retread. They're remaking 21 Jump Street ffs!

Star Wars didn't need the prequels to be constantly in the realm of popular culture. Star Wars didn't need the prequels to sell video games, novels, RPGs, card games, toilet roll, etc. even into the late 1990s. Same with Indiana Jones. You think 10 years from now, somebody's going to make a classic adventure game based on a current summer blockbuster and actually have people give a crap? Is Captain America* and the Fate Of Atlantis ever going to happen?


*I couldn't even think of a character from a summer blockbuster due this year that wasn't already around for decades.

The_Mike
March 20th, 2012, 10:10 PM
To be fair, neither did the Lord of the Rings

I know.


Lord of the Rings is the last new franchise I remember that people still give a shit about, and that's based on a book from the 1950s.

Atty
March 20th, 2012, 11:34 PM
Anyone against me banning Hero?

Fixed and do it. Remember, he did say Dark of the Moon was better than Transformers: The Movie...


Dark of the Moon was an amazing film. ROTF wasn't great, but it's a fun popcorn flick.

I don't know what's wrong with you guys.

I didn't HATE the third film, but it's in no way great. Actually, aside from me getting giggles from Nimoy using Spock quotes for evil, I can't think of anything that I actually liked in it.

Guy
March 21st, 2012, 3:00 AM
It ended?

Atty
March 21st, 2012, 3:22 AM
Aye. Brilliant move by Bay there in. Shame it came three hours late.

Zarius
March 21st, 2012, 9:27 AM
The most popular and famous version of the whole thing, the 80s-90s cartoon, isnt close to the grittier, bloodier comics at all, and the 2003 cartoon deviated heavily from the books too (they even made Shredder an alien), so I'm not exactly too angry at this latest reinterpretation, I'm more concerned about how the idea is executed more than the idea itself. Anything can be good with a decent script and effort behind a camera.

Guy
March 21st, 2012, 12:27 PM
Anything can be good with a decent script and effort behind a camera.

Michael Bay....

Platinum Dunes...

Matty C
March 21st, 2012, 2:03 PM
Major franchises of late that people give a shit about off the top of my head (some already mentioned):

Pirates of the Caribbean
Game of Thrones
The Walking Dead
Harry Potter
Twilight (garbage, but new and massive)
The Hunger Games (will be massive)
The Bourne Series
The Fast and Furious Series
The Saw Series

Most of those are book based but all were written around this decade and people gave a shit about them, whether I personally liked them or not. Yes, Hollywood loves a rehash these days or better yet, a sequel but there are still new ideas and new series being spawned.

I’m with Hero and enjoyed all three Transformer movies *everyone stops reading*. I wasn’t as into the cartoons as most of the people in this thread were though, so that probably helps. I also don’t mind massive green monsters that look like a man in a suit stomping obviously model cities. In fact, I consider that grade A entertainment.

With all of that said, I'm not really thrilled with trying to turn the TMNTs into aliens. :\

Pipkin
March 21st, 2012, 2:08 PM
The only Transformer series I ever watched was Beast Wars, and even I thought the movies were garbage. The departure didn't bother me, I'm not really aware of most of it honestly, I just don't think they were well made. I don't like the way they were cast, acted, written, or directed.

I love the Turtles though, and I am very worried about the alien thing. I really, really hope it's just a minor plot point and doesn't have a big impact on the story being told.

Atty
March 21st, 2012, 2:42 PM
Story? It's Michael Bay...

The Doc
March 21st, 2012, 4:19 PM
To be fair the Turtles don't have a lot of story to tell. Four teen brothers go and fight an evil ninja who dresses like a Samurai. Thanks in large part to the 80's cartoon and 90's movies that's the only Turtles scenario that people are at all familar with. Can you imagine the riots if they made a Ninja Turtles in Space fighting Triceritons in the arena movie? Or if they made it half as bloody as the source material? That's one place where they've kinda screwed themselves is they love Shredder so much that he completely overshadows pretty much everybody. It doesn't help that we're out of the 70s and 80s and space just isn't cool anymore.

The_Mike
March 21st, 2012, 4:25 PM
Major franchises of late that people give a shit about off the top of my head (some already mentioned):

Pirates of the Caribbean
Game of Thrones
The Walking Dead
Harry Potter
Twilight (garbage, but new and massive)
The Hunger Games (will be massive)
The Bourne Series
The Fast and Furious Series
The Saw Series

Most of those are book based but all were written around this decade and people gave a shit about them, whether I personally liked them or not. Yes, Hollywood loves a rehash these days or better yet, a sequel but there are still new ideas and new series being spawned.

The Borne books were written in the 80s I think. Harry Potter started in the mid 1990s, as did Game of Thrones. None of these were new ideas when they make it to the big screen, not even close. Except maybe Fast & Furious and Saw, but are they going to have two different cartoon series dedicating parody episodes to them 30 years from now? And I've never even heard of The Walking Dead.

The Doc
March 21st, 2012, 4:47 PM
What was made in the 70s-90s that was so damn good that didn't come from a book, comic or play? That the movie form is the FIRST form and the comics and novels are something that branched off and not the other way around?

Judas Iscariot
March 21st, 2012, 4:58 PM
And I've never even heard of The Walking Dead.

PLEASE tell me you're not serious on this one (also based on a pre-existing comic series, BTW). And if you are, you need to spend the next week watching the first two seasons of the AMC TV series.

But you're right. Hollywood hasn't produced anything particularly memorable on its own in a while. The Matrix, which I never watched the sequels, may be the one that lasts.

Guy
March 21st, 2012, 5:01 PM
And I've never even heard of The Walking Dead.

:wtf:

Guy
March 21st, 2012, 5:03 PM
Anyways. Regardless of whether they've added the "alien" thing or not. This film was doomed pretty much the second his company got their hand on it.

People saying that they hope the alien thing is a minor point that doesn't affect the rest of the story/film. Just look at the people making it and the awful track record they have combined. There's no use anticipating it, it's already failed as a movie.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 21st, 2012, 7:26 PM
But you're right. Hollywood hasn't produced anything particularly memorable on its own in a while. The Matrix, which I never watched the sequels, may be the one that lasts.

Toy Story, Shrek, there's two major original film franchises.


While it's true Hollywood does love a remake/reboot/etc they still do put out some big original films... Avatar, Inception, District 9, Hurt Locker, Black Swan, Slumdog. I'm sure there'd be a longer list but it's early.

Jimmy Zero
March 21st, 2012, 7:32 PM
District 9 was not a Hollywood product, I don't think, and neither was Hurt Locker, again, I don't think.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 21st, 2012, 8:33 PM
If we're going by region you could almost count The Matrix as an Australian film.

I was under the impression in using the term Hollywood he was just talking about any major filmmaking studio

The_Mike
March 21st, 2012, 9:10 PM
What was made in the 70s-90s that was so damn good that didn't come from a book, comic or play? That the movie form is the FIRST form and the comics and novels are something that branched off and not the other way around?

I already said: Star Wars and Indiana Jones. I believe I mentioned Taxi Driver as well. Alien is another off the top of my head. I also mentioned The Godfather, which was based on a book but by no means was a cash-in to make stupid amounts of money on an already insanely popular franchise, but to be fair, the whole world was different back then. I don't mean to be rude but I don't know why you seem so angry with me and so determined to disprove what I was saying that you end up missing what I'm saying.

Fanny
March 21st, 2012, 9:12 PM
shut up The_Mike there were no good movies in three decades that weren't based on comics or books

darkhorse
March 22nd, 2012, 12:42 AM
I would laugh my ass off if Michael Bay took on a cartoon like the Muppet Babies. I'm 99.9% certain he would turn Nanny into an octopus.

Matty C
March 22nd, 2012, 9:25 AM
Ok, my last word on the new material train of thought: You really need to look into The Walking Dead Mike. It's great.

VanillaJello
March 22nd, 2012, 9:42 AM
Am I the only one that loves Armageddon?

Also, I thought Pearl Harbor had some good ideas mixed in with some utter shit. :(

Matty C
March 22nd, 2012, 10:17 AM
Am I the only one that loves Armageddon?

Also, I thought Pearl Harbor had some good ideas mixed in with some utter shit. :(

I actually thought the first 2/3rds of Pearl Harbor were pretty good. Everything from the end of the attack onward just seemed unnecessary to me though.

Jimmy Zero
March 22nd, 2012, 10:22 AM
I thought the only thing worth watching in Pearl Harbor was the assault on Pearl Harbor. The rest of that movie was utterly worthless.

Guy
March 22nd, 2012, 4:54 PM
Michael Bay to me is like the John Cena of cinema.

The industry continue to support him to pull in the crowds and make money for them and the audiences continue to fund the guy, meanwhile everything he's ever done or been involved in has been an immature, disappointing sack of shite and I instantly give up on a project the second I see he's attached to it because I know I'm going to see the same old painfully atrocious crap every single time.

Atty
March 22nd, 2012, 5:07 PM
That's mean to Cena...

sam_elmendorf
March 22nd, 2012, 5:29 PM
I have to give my 2 cents here. Michael Bay has not made all crap films. I know some of you have mentioned liking a couple of his movies. Being a diehard Friday The 13th fan, I enjoyed the new take Platinum Dunes took. I loved The Island. The Rock and Armegeddon were cool ass flicks. Transformers weren't that bad. I never watched the cartoons, so I wasn't looking for anything to be wrong with them. Still have not watched any of the cartoons. These were all great popcorn flicks. I'm sure there's more that i probably liked, but this is all I can think of at the moment.

Fanny
March 22nd, 2012, 5:52 PM
Amrageddon was a steaming pile of utter fucking shit and I can't have an iota of respect for anyone who enjoys any aspect of that film

The Doc
March 22nd, 2012, 5:53 PM
The neew take Platinum dunes took with Friday the 13th? They should have just slapped a title on it and kept the old franchise running. The only they did (like the New Nightmare) was make damn sure that no sequel to Freddy vs Jason is even possible. They really aren't as bad as people try to make them out to be and they certainly if they'd just slapped a number on the flicks wouldn't be the worst in either series by any stretch. Micheal Bay would have had to have made Freddy vs Naruto to top Nightmare on Elm Street 2, and Jason would need to to take off his mask start talking to top Takes Manhatten or X.

The Rock, Armageddon, Bad Boys 1 and 2 are both good. I liked the Island but I'm not gonna defend that one.

Transformers however are TERRIBLE. There is really no redeeming factor there.

Cena has never done anything as abysmal as Transformers 2. Cena with a broken arm having a 40 man royal rumble with blow up dolls would be better than that.

sam_elmendorf
March 22nd, 2012, 7:09 PM
The neew take Platinum dunes took with Friday the 13th? They should have just slapped a title on it and kept the old franchise running. The only they did (like the New Nightmare) was make damn sure that no sequel to Freddy vs Jason is even possible. They really aren't as bad as people try to make them out to be and they certainly if they'd just slapped a number on the flicks wouldn't be the worst in either series by any stretch. Micheal Bay would have had to have made Freddy vs Naruto to top Nightmare on Elm Street 2, and Jason would need to to take off his mask start talking to top Takes Manhatten or X.

The Rock, Armageddon, Bad Boys 1 and 2 are both good. I liked the Island but I'm not gonna defend that one.

Transformers however are TERRIBLE. There is really no redeeming factor there.

Cena has never done anything as abysmal as Transformers 2. Cena with a broken arm having a 40 man royal rumble with blow up dolls would be better than that.

There's always gonna be disagreements on whether people like something or not. That's the way of life. I appreciate you not saying you don't have respect for me because I liked a certain movie though.

The reason I liked the reboot of F13 is because they went back to the non zombie like character of Jason and made him more of a badass mofo. I really like the F13 series of films, but it was nice to get a reboot. I also don't think that just because a reboot was made, that there is no chance of FvJ 2. Allthough it would suck if someone other than Robert played Freddy. That was my only dissapointment with the reboot of ANOES. Robert has been Freddy since day 1 with the movies, the tv series. Everything. It would be like someone else playing Ash in the Evil Dead franchise. I don't even want a reboot with someone else playing that character. I would just prefer a whole different cast of characters.

On Transformers, I think because I didn't watch the cartoons or anything, I wasn't disapointed with what they did. I was never into the Transformers as toys or cartoons, so I didn't know what to expect when I saw the movies.

Bad Boys 1 & 2 were both great also.

The thing with The Island, I guess I just liked the story idea. And ScarJo was hot! hehe!

Vice
March 22nd, 2012, 7:15 PM
I could write pages and pages about why Michael Bay is terrible, but I can sum everything up with:

Scarlett Johansson wanted to get her 20 year old breasts out for one of the scenes in The Island. Michael Bay said no.

The end.

Atty
March 22nd, 2012, 7:17 PM
Obama should have Bay shot and dropped into the ocean. Or into a Bay. Re-election assured.

sam_elmendorf
March 22nd, 2012, 7:19 PM
I heard it was the other way around. And that she compromised on letting him choose the bra for the scene..

Atty
March 22nd, 2012, 7:20 PM
When it comes to Scarlett vs. Bay, Bay is always the villain. Always.

Vice
March 22nd, 2012, 7:21 PM
Bay shot [down] first.

Atty
March 22nd, 2012, 7:25 PM
I bet Bay's to blame for Lucas changing Star Wars. We can all agree on that, right?

sam_elmendorf
March 22nd, 2012, 7:29 PM
I f**king hate Lucas for destroying the original trilogy!

Atty
March 22nd, 2012, 7:34 PM
He was under the influence of Darth Bayus The Spastic.

The_Mike
March 22nd, 2012, 8:12 PM
I heard it was the other way around. And that she compromised on letting him choose the bra for the scene..

I remember the story the same way round Vice does. Apparently Johansson was annoyed at the idea of her character sleeping in a bra, since that's not what real women generally do. And if Bay got to choose the bra, he didn't do a very good job, I don't even remember it.


I bet Bay's to blame for Lucas changing Star Wars. We can all agree on that, right?

Yep. I agree.

The Doc
March 22nd, 2012, 8:17 PM
There's always gonna be disagreements on whether people like something or not. That's the way of life. I appreciate you not saying you don't have respect for me because I liked a certain movie though.

The reason I liked the reboot of F13 is because they went back to the non zombie like character of Jason and made him more of a badass mofo. I really like the F13 series of films, but it was nice to get a reboot. I also don't think that just because a reboot was made, that there is no chance of FvJ 2. Allthough it would suck if someone other than Robert played Freddy. That was my only dissapointment with the reboot of ANOES. Robert has been Freddy since day 1 with the movies, the tv series. Everything. It would be like someone else playing Ash in the Evil Dead franchise. I don't even want a reboot with someone else playing that character. I would just prefer a whole different cast of characters.

On Transformers, I think because I didn't watch the cartoons or anything, I wasn't disapointed with what they did. I was never into the Transformers as toys or cartoons, so I didn't know what to expect when I saw the movies.

Bad Boys 1 & 2 were both great also.

The thing with The Island, I guess I just liked the story idea. And ScarJo was hot! hehe!


Oh I don't disrespect you. Why is the general consensus around here that if I disagree with you on something I'm automatically mad or insinuating that disrespect you.

I can see how you could enjoy the reboot for F13 under those circumstances. I'm a youngun (well by Jason standards) by the time I was old enough to watch the movies he'd been a zombie for some time. I like that Jason who's just an unstoppable juggernaut. The new film for me didn't even feel wrong is the problem. It was just smart Jason, or possibly them revealing how Jason's always infront of you. It's not that he can teleport it's that he's been here forever and set up some crazy shit over the years. The advantage for Jason here is that the stories really never built towards much of anything. Also there were talks for a JvF2 with either Ash or Mike Myers in it. And somewhere I remember reading there was at least a chance at an adaptation of the Church of Hate which would have made a fun flick. To sum it up some hellfire and brimstone preacher observes the Jason murders and survivors and concludes that Jason is the instrument of God and only kills wicked sinners and convinces his church to go dig up Jason because if they're pure they're perfectly safe. It turns out about as well as you'd expect.

For Freddy I'd like to know what happened to Alice and her kid. We probably would never find out since the Dream Child was the last "real" Nightmare movie. Btw you're wrong. This is the second time another actor has portrayed Freddy. It's not Robert in New Nightmare either and that dude was creepy as shit in that trench coat.

I like the plan where we shoot Bay. I don't think we need to drop him in the ocean or anything since nobody likes the guy enough to build a shrine.

sam_elmendorf
March 22nd, 2012, 9:55 PM
I wasn't implying that you were disrespecting me. That was a rib at fanny for a previous post. I also know that Robert didn't play Freddy in the reboot. Hence my saying that was my only disapointment with the new ANOES.

Don't know if you know this or not, but the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash was made into a comic series. I don't know how many issues or if it's an ongoing one. Was never interested in it enough to get details.

With ANOES, I'd like to see a prequel type movie (only if Englund is playing Freddy though). The new guy was creepy, but I would love to see Englund one more time, and as he was before he got burnt and shit. And the whole story of the kidnappings, and so on til the families burn him.

(EDIT)I just reread what you wrote. Are you referring to the reboot or Wes Craven's New Nightmare. It is Robert in the latter. A lot of people think that wasn't Robert Englund, but it is.

To keep this topic related. I've seen the cartoons and the movies. If Bay makes the turtles aliens, I will be pissed.

Guy
March 23rd, 2012, 3:03 AM
Yea it's totally Robert in New Nightmare...

Excel
March 23rd, 2012, 7:13 AM
Yeah, why wouldnt it be Robert? Why would he be in the movie as himself but not be cast as Freddy?

The makeup job was just very different, and the character was very different. One could argue that it wasn't the same Freddy Krueger. It was the same actor though

Guy
March 23rd, 2012, 1:16 PM
I love the scene where he appears in "classic" Freddy getup during the interview, to show how popular the mass murdering child molester has become.

The Doc
March 23rd, 2012, 1:31 PM
The make-up is completely different and I swear I remember hearing it was someone different. I'll take you guys word for it and admit I was wrong since IMDB claims it was Robert. I popped in the DVD though and the DVD claims that Freddy Krueger played himself. So I'd rather trust that you guys are right and Freddy is a fictional charachter portrayed by Robert Englund than the credits that claim he's a real person who agreed like Wes Craven to play himself in a film. I like sleeping.

mth
March 23rd, 2012, 1:32 PM
I think you should trust the DVD. Freddy Krueger is totally a real dude.

Guy
March 23rd, 2012, 5:38 PM
I met him.

Also I had him sign an issue of that Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comic that someone brought up earlier in the thread.

The Doc
March 23rd, 2012, 6:20 PM
Lucky. Closest I got was I met Bruce Campbell and had him sign his autobiography and Army of Darkness special edition. Went to school with his daughter as a side note.

Guy
March 23rd, 2012, 6:28 PM
See now I would cut off a fucking limb to meet Bruce Campbell (probably the right hand, traditionally).

He came to the UK 5 years ago for the only time in about a decade and was 20 minutes from my house...and I didn't hear about it til the day afterwards. Every time I go past that arena I die a little inside. And I go past it every week.

I got a signed Army of Darkness script for Xmas, but as awesome as that is...it's not the same.

Atty
March 23rd, 2012, 7:04 PM
OK, now I'm a bit jealous of doct.

Did you ask if she wanted to see your boomstick?

sam_elmendorf
March 23rd, 2012, 7:19 PM
I met Bruce shortly after Army of Darkness. Got him to sign my 11 x 17 AoD poster. He's really awesome. Then a few years later, got a signed copy of Chins. Now I need him to sign his second book. Make Love Like Bruce Campbell.

Guy
March 23rd, 2012, 7:34 PM
Oh you can all just fuck right off

*storms out of thread*

The Doc
March 23rd, 2012, 9:24 PM
OK, now I'm a bit jealous of doct.

Did you ask if she wanted to see your boomstick?

I was completely unaware of her. Entirely oblivious. When I met him he asked where I was from, and told him, and then (I was 20 at the time) he asked me what school I went to and I told him. And then he told me that his daughter went to my school and graduated with me. It's that Campbell is a sufficiently common name (on a campus of nearly 3k) that it never even crossed my mind to make a connection between Ash and that girl who may have shared a class or two with me over the years.

He's real nice guy in person.

Though he accidently lead to one of my most annoying situations in life. Since I had friends who liked him I bout copies for them as well to get signed as a surprise gift. So I call my friend up and tell him he'll never guess who I just met. He LOATHES the guessing game but I wanted to play so nagged until he guess. First words out his mouth Fucking Bruce Campbell.

That game really isn't any fun when they get it right the first time out. :-(

G-Fresh
March 23rd, 2012, 10:17 PM
Aliens make everything better.

Beer-Belly
March 24th, 2012, 3:05 AM
The director has basically said that only the ooze that mutates the turtles is alien. That's fine with me, considering it's canon. It doesn't mean the movie won't suck, but at least they aren't butt fucking the origin for no reason.

Michael Bay should just not speak in public.

Atty
March 24th, 2012, 3:08 AM
...or make movies.

Beer-Belly
March 24th, 2012, 3:10 AM
The Rock was a good movie, and the first Bad Boys is highly watchable.

Atty
March 24th, 2012, 3:13 AM
So his last good movie was 16 years ago, you're saying?

ReDPath
March 24th, 2012, 8:01 AM
Sorta contradicts what I said early in the thread. Nonetheless holds water.

Bay is a studio guy.

You look at the body of work either as a producer or director and the only thing the studio cares about is a big return and he often provides that. Whether we want to take credit away from him for taking an already once established franchise here or there is all up to the viewer to decide. In technicalilty Nolan is doing the same thing with Batman. A different 'take'. Track record/reputation obviously different.

Angry Video Game Nerd addresses this TMNT news recently and even though I think the Nerd has lost considerable popularility/steam over the last couple years. He's usually pretty good with his commentary on things and it couldn't be more true. Most significant part in bold.

http://cinemassacre.com/2012/03/20/michael-bays-tmnt-from-outer-space/

My inbox has been getting slammed the past couple days about the news regarding the upcoming Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. All the outrage is over a comment producer Michael Bay made about the turtles being from outer space. My thoughts?

I watched the video clip and laughed out loud. I thought he was making a joke or it was a slip up. Do I care much? No. It’s Michael Bay. What did you expect? The Transformers movies had barely anything to do with Transformers, so I’ve always been foreseeing him giving the same sort of treatment to TMNT. Changing the turtles origins I’m sure is only the beginning. Wait until you see Krang is a 20 foot slug or something. We can only guess.

Why does Michael Bay have to be involved with every horror reboot and every reboot of our favorite 80′s cartoons. Because you all keep going to see his movies! The last Transformers movie made over a billion dollars worldwide! Sure I thought the Transformers movies were entertaining enough, though I wish they were called something else. The title was the bait and we were the fish. You have the choice to see the new TMNT or not. My suggestion is if you don’t like the concept, avoid the bait and don’t see it.

The Doc
March 24th, 2012, 2:09 PM
It suddenly seems funny to me that nobody got pissed off that Krang and Shredder were made into the same charachter for the 2k3 cartoon.

Guy
March 30th, 2012, 11:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHtoKkGaoE

Beer-Belly
March 30th, 2012, 12:39 PM
The movie is just being called "Ninja Turtles". That's a non-issue for me; I always referred to them as just Ninja Turtles as a kid.

What matters most is the story and the dialogue. I'm going to wait until we have more info before I throw a massive shit fit.

Guy
March 30th, 2012, 12:45 PM
You're expecting decent story and dialogue from the writers, directors and producers of the Transformers Trilogy, Wrath of the Titans, Armageddon, Pearl Harbour, and the Nightmare on Elm Street/Friday the 13th/Texas Chainsaw/Amityville Horror re-makes?

Beer-Belly
March 30th, 2012, 12:54 PM
Not really, but I'm still going to give it some time before I take a big corn fed dump on it.

The guys who wrote the Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol are writing the movie. I haven't seen that yet, but it was a critical and financial success.

Guy
March 30th, 2012, 1:26 PM
I've seen Ghost Protocol. It was a great movie, but more so because the actors were game and Pixar's Brad Bird has some genuine directorial flair about him, the script was pretty much set-piece-a-ganza.

Brad Bird has directed four films, all of which are in the 90%'s on rottentomatoes.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/brad_bird/

Neither Michael Bay, nor his production company, nor Jonathan Liebesman (the director of Turtles) have a 90% film between them. Look at this tragic list of failure, every film Bay has directed along with all of those he and Platinum Dunes has produced, and all the films that Liebesman has made.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/michael_bay/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/jonathan_liebesman/

eldanielfire
April 2nd, 2012, 12:05 PM
So his last good movie was 16 years ago, you're saying?

It's probably no concidence Bay's films looked half decent when essentially the producer had ultimate control and Bay was essentially a lackey director to Don Simpson and second to the comedy and acting talent that was hired?

Everything he has produced has been shite and badly done.

sam_elmendorf
April 2nd, 2012, 1:40 PM
rottentomatoes has no impact on me on whether to like a film or not. If you don't like a film, that's fine. Can you dislike a film because you disliked a film, or do you prefer to not see films and then shit on them because some internet review site said it sucks? Not bagging on you at all, I'm just curious if you have actually seen the films you are shitting on.

Guy
April 2nd, 2012, 6:44 PM
I have seen more than enough of them to gain an educated opinion into Platinum Dunes/Michael Bay's quality of output if that's what you're asking.

I actively avoid the man now, because I know he's awful from experience, and unless one of his films gain some genuine acclaim all of a sudden, I'm likely never to bother watching one again.

Vice
April 2nd, 2012, 6:50 PM
Michael Bay is looking towards Halloween now, too.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

The Doc
April 2nd, 2012, 7:33 PM
How much worse than Rob Zombie's Halloween II can it get though? I'm honestly tempted to watch a Micheal Bay Halloween just to see how badly he can fuck something up.

Especially since I don't actually hate his F13 or Nightmare movies aside from thinking we would have been better served slapping a number/title on them and wondering how people can get so pissy about the new Friday the 13th like they've never seen New Blood, Takes Manhattan or X. Lets face it, it can get MUCH MUCH worse than that.

ReDPath
April 2nd, 2012, 8:26 PM
Fridays 1-8 are all watchable and all under the Paramount Umbrella.

New Line took the franchise and completely turned it upside down.

It took Platinum Dunes/re association with Paramount for F13 to get back to basics.

The Nightmare remake on the other hand was very boring mostly because Haley had no charisma whatsoever. Something Robert brought each and every time he played Freddy.

Halloween 2 was the worst thing to come out of old new horror aka remake/rebootville in recent years. Which I suppose was a bit disappointing to me because I thought Rob's remake was entertaining if not completely predictable to flesh out the Myers character. The first half of the movie was better than the second half. Course the brillance of the original was the lack of a motive.

The Doc
April 2nd, 2012, 8:33 PM
Fridays 7-8 are only watchable because we love the charachters. Also Jason Goes to Hell and vs Freddy were if nothing else entertaining flicks. I personally enjoy vs Freddy.

I did like Rob's Remake of the original, my sole complaint being he made two movies (the Good Son, and Halloween) and glued them together. As difficult a sell as it would have been he would have been worlds better off with two fleshed out flicks instead of two movies that were three quarters done and then fused. Still it was fun.

sam_elmendorf
April 2nd, 2012, 11:42 PM
I have seen more than enough of them to gain an educated opinion into Platinum Dunes/Michael Bay's quality of output if that's what you're asking.

I actively avoid the man now, because I know he's awful from experience, and unless one of his films gain some genuine acclaim all of a sudden, I'm likely never to bother watching one again.


Fair enough. Thank you for responding. Again, wasn't trying to bag on you, just wanted to know if you had actually seen the movies or not. A lot of people just like to jump on a bandwagon cuz it's popular to do.

Beer-Belly
April 3rd, 2012, 12:02 AM
Michael Bay is looking towards Halloween now, too.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Oh, God. I haven't heard about that. It's like he's actively going after the things I hold dear.

Still, it can't be any worse than Rob Zombie's abortions.

Atty
April 3rd, 2012, 12:25 AM
Don't give Bay a challenge.

Guy
April 3rd, 2012, 5:54 AM
Fair enough. Thank you for responding. Again, wasn't trying to bag on you, just wanted to know if you had actually seen the movies or not. A lot of people just like to jump on a bandwagon cuz it's popular to do.

Nah that's cool. The more I looked into it, the more upset I became that somehow I've only not seen perhaps two Bay films, it took Transformers to really put that nail in the coffin.

On Halloween, at this point it doesn't really matter what they do with the original horror franchise characters. They've had their time now, and I love them, but they're gone. I think Freddy vs Jason is about as cheeseball and fun of a concept and send off that you could ask for from Englund, and if you hate it you always have New Nightmare as his swansong if you'd prefer. Rob Zombie's Halloween I may have actually enjoyed if it wasn't called "Halloween".

If the character wasn't Michael Myers, and they didn't feel the need to crowbar the entirety of the original Halloween into the final act of the re-make, then it may have been alright, as I remember enjoying it as a separate entity up to that point. Essentially up to the point where it reminded me that it was called "Halloween".

ReDPath
April 3rd, 2012, 1:09 PM
Maybe Bay was a big 80s guy and he believes he is giving the fans what they want by retelling the same old story for a new audience.

John Carpenter
Rob Zombie
Michael Bay

3 Names you would probably never expect to see associated with the same franchise.

One did it for exposure - Carpenter
One did it to make it grungy, grindhouse, trashy oriented - Zombie
The next one for the love of the game or the love of money

Jimmy Zero
April 4th, 2012, 10:40 AM
If Michael Bay remakes Halloween I might have to stalk him and puke on his face.

Halloween (at least, the Carpenter version; I haven't wasted my time with any Rob Zombie movies since that 1000 Corpses garbage) is quite literally the complete antithesis of everything Michael Bay does in his movies. He is incapable of creating any sort of legitimate tension in his movies.

Guy
April 4th, 2012, 11:10 AM
Or story.

Guy
April 4th, 2012, 11:10 AM
Or characters.

Beer-Belly
April 4th, 2012, 12:06 PM
Michael Bay is kind of like the committee on The Simpsons that created Poochie the Dog. "Ooooh, what if some of the robots speak jive?"

To be fair, I actually didn't mind the first Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake that he produced.

Guy
April 4th, 2012, 1:09 PM
And here's why

http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/74/20/72212074/photos/test2/Jessica%20Biel%20-%20Texas%20Chainsaw%20Massacre%2006.gif

Beer-Belly
April 4th, 2012, 1:22 PM
And Timberlake cheats on that. Bastard.

R. Lee Ermey and Leatherface didn't hurt, either. Although, I prefer Leatherface to be mentally retarded and thoroughly confused rather than brooding.

sam_elmendorf
April 5th, 2012, 11:24 AM
And here's why

http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/74/20/72212074/photos/test2/Jessica Biel - Texas Chainsaw Massacre 06.gif

I didn't blame grandpa for wanting a little feely feely on her!

Guy
April 5th, 2012, 1:13 PM
I should be noted that Platinum Dunes has the rights to re-make "Monster Squad" also.

Atty
April 5th, 2012, 1:37 PM
And here's why

http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/74/20/72212074/photos/test2/Jessica%20Biel%20-%20Texas%20Chainsaw%20Massacre%2006.gif

Post more Biel gifs. Thank you in advance, kind sir.

The Doc
April 5th, 2012, 6:03 PM
I don't even know what Monster Squad is. Call me when he gets the rights to He-Man. I'm holding out hope that somehow he'll create something worse than Masters of the Universe movie that was made. That way I can pretend the original isn't a train wreck.

Atty
April 5th, 2012, 6:08 PM
MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE IS BRILLIANT AND YOU'LL KINDLY SHUT YOUR FAT FACE!

Fanny
April 5th, 2012, 6:26 PM
seconded

Guy
April 5th, 2012, 6:57 PM
Post more Biel gifs. Thank you in advance, kind sir.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MzvIty-NIss/TwTKH6fzHAI/AAAAAAAABcw/Mq0Cwp3U-4I/s1600/6.gif

http://images.quickblogcast.com/8/3/1/4/7/184722-174138/beilpowderwww006.gif

http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/jbiel1sm1.gif

The end.

Fanny
April 5th, 2012, 7:00 PM
I take back everything bad I ever said about you

Guy
April 5th, 2012, 7:12 PM
Wait...you've said bad things about me? :eek:

Guy
April 5th, 2012, 7:16 PM
I don't even know what Monster Squad is. Call me when he gets the rights to He-Man. I'm holding out hope that somehow he'll create something worse than Masters of the Universe movie that was made. That way I can pretend the original isn't a train wreck.

Imagine The Lost Boys. But instead of having to fight vampires, the kids had to go up against all of Universal's classic monsters (Dracula, The Wolf Man, Frankenstein's Monster, The Creature From The Black Lagoon, The Mummy, etc)

Definitely worth a watch.

sam_elmendorf
April 5th, 2012, 7:48 PM
Is Justin Timberlake retarded!

Guy
April 5th, 2012, 7:55 PM
They are engaged I believe.

Tramp
April 5th, 2012, 8:00 PM
I wish I was proficient in gif creation. (http://sharenxs.com/images/wz/cabc/be/ae/af/bj/biel1._zuvrseu.gif)

sam_elmendorf
April 5th, 2012, 8:34 PM
Oh. I thought they split up.

Fanny
April 5th, 2012, 8:38 PM
your avatar is fucking tremendous, btw

sam_elmendorf
April 5th, 2012, 10:24 PM
your avatar is fucking tremendous, btw


Thanks! That version of Trish Stratus was fucking tremendous!

Atty
April 7th, 2012, 12:03 AM
Much like every version. ;)

Beer-Belly
February 22nd, 2013, 2:26 PM
Megan Fox is officially playing April O'Neil.

Fuck it. At this point, my only interest in this project is seeing how badly they can mess it up. The movie isn't being made for anyone who cared about the characters back in the day. That's fine, but it's a bummer that there won't be a new Turtles movie that both kids and parents can enjoy.

Guy
February 22nd, 2013, 2:28 PM
I'm surprised anyone has any interest in anything Platinum dunes ever does. For me their association is an instant interest killer.

Beer-Belly
February 22nd, 2013, 2:31 PM
I'd never thought I'd say this until recently, but I wish Disney had picked up the rights to the Turtles.

Guy
February 22nd, 2013, 2:32 PM
I'm quite enjoying the new Nickelodeon show. It look like utter shite in the previews and adverts, but is actually genuinely hilarious and one of my weekly most anticipated shows.

Beer-Belly
February 22nd, 2013, 2:35 PM
I've heard good things. At least part of the franchise is getting treated decently.

Guy
February 22nd, 2013, 2:40 PM
The IDW comics are also boss. And if you ever get a chance to watch Turtles Forever (the feature length mash-up between the 2003 cartoon and the 1980's cartoon) you utterly should do because it's incredible fun and pokes light hearted fun at the 80's show we all know and love.

ReDPath
February 22nd, 2013, 2:44 PM
I like that even though the general press releases tell us that Megan has signed onto Ninja Turtles. The real story is clearly the 'burying of the hatchet' between Fox and Bay over the Transformers drama a couple years back. That's the real story, the Turtles signing is basically back burner.

I guess when there's money to be made and publicity to whore out. Everybody can get along.

All we need now is Shia Lebeouf as Vernon, and cameo appearances by Optimus Prime and Megatron helping the Shredder and you'd have yourself an unofficial sequel to Transformers.

Not sure whats coming out first, Turtles or Transformers 4. Yet regardless, I bet it'll only be a matter of time before the rumblings start to occur about Fox coming back to Transformers alongside Wahlberg in the future installments post TF4.

Turtles Forever will probably go down as the last good Turtles fodder JMO.

Beer-Belly
February 22nd, 2013, 2:44 PM
I read a couple of the newer comics and they were pretty cool. I didn't really like Casey Jones being the son of an abusive alcoholic, but the rest was really good.

Beer-Belly
February 22nd, 2013, 2:50 PM
Shia LePoof only does artsy movies where he shows his dong off now, so I wouldn't worry about him being involved. I actually liked him in Lawless, honestly.

For some reason Megan Fox keeps getting plastic surgery done and none of it has been for the better.

mth
February 22nd, 2013, 2:58 PM
I've seen a handful of episodes of the new Nick show and quite like it.

Fox as April certainly doesn't do anything for me.

Fanny
February 22nd, 2013, 3:05 PM
Fox as anything but worm food does nothing for me

Guy
February 22nd, 2013, 3:14 PM
IDW are re-releasing all the original Turtles comics but in full colour re-prints instead of black and white, which is cool. This is alongside a completely new series that has Eastman's involvement which, as mentioned, is also really good.

I thought the CGI TMNT movie was OK, didn't realise it was supposed to be an actual sequel to the three live action movies until way after the fact though.

Also, for anyone that cares, the new toys and figures have a really cool retro style to them. They've even released new figure based on the old 80's TV show which are far better than the ones released at the time.

Bill Casey
March 3rd, 2013, 8:42 PM
Someone show Michael Bay a picture/article of a turtle penis so the film has twenty minutes of turtle penis jokes...

VHS
June 24th, 2013, 1:16 PM
William Fichtner is Shredder. I think I'm very ok with this.

Beer-Belly
June 24th, 2013, 2:20 PM
Shredder being Japanese is a pretty big part of his character, but whatever, I can't really feign disappointment at this point.

MikeHunt
June 24th, 2013, 2:38 PM
Kevin Nash?????

Vice
June 24th, 2013, 3:22 PM
William Fichtner is Shredder. I think I'm very ok with this.

I can't really picture him playing Shredder, but I think he's an amazingly underrated actor and is one of my favorites, so we'll see how it goes.

mr sabu
June 24th, 2013, 8:55 PM
Someone show Michael Bay a picture/article of a turtle penis so the film has twenty minutes of turtle penis jokes...



i know somone that has a turtles tattoo on there shin... and lets just say one of them has a tail......... and it doesn't look like a tail

Lagom
June 25th, 2013, 4:27 AM
Shredder being Japanese is a pretty big part of his character, but whatever, I can't really feign disappointment at this point.

Uncle Phil...?

virms
June 25th, 2013, 10:06 PM
Didn't realize Will Arnett is in this. That alone will earn a watch from me.

Atty
June 25th, 2013, 10:21 PM
Who is GOB playing?

virms
June 26th, 2013, 10:26 PM
April O Neil's rival from what I have read

VHS
June 26th, 2013, 10:50 PM
I can't wait to see how two movies turn out... the Robocop remake and this. :)

Judas Iscariot
January 31st, 2014, 3:18 AM
Spoilered for size.

Promotional poster:

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Ninja-Turtles-Movie-Official-Poster.jpg

VHS
March 27th, 2014, 12:50 PM
I like it... I like it... I like it. :yes:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Full-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Trailer-Kicks-Serious-Shell-42285.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRipBOQl95o&feature=share&list=PLLSCYeT7rK oWiN94Qxu2h_H2lYJGVIWst

Atty
March 27th, 2014, 12:55 PM
Damnit VHS. Just came here to post that.

Nash Diesel
March 27th, 2014, 12:58 PM
Looks awesome. I want to blow my ribcage out my back everytime I read someone griping about the origin, yet they don't know the comics, they don't care that the first movie and the cartoon origins are different (Splinter wasn't a rat he was a human blah blah blah). I'm a huge TMNT fan, this looks awesome, better than anything since the 2nd movie. This feels like it has that grittiness like the first movie.

TimeSplitter
March 27th, 2014, 1:04 PM
So shredder creates the Tmnt?

Dream-Evil
March 27th, 2014, 1:10 PM
Love Fichtner.

mth
March 27th, 2014, 1:14 PM
I'm stoked. The turtles themselves look fantastic. Looks like it'll be fun.

I'm not sure it means Shredder created them, it might mean he was working on the ooze in an effort to create something else. But having him be involved in their creation does add an interesting element to the story.

Atty
March 27th, 2014, 1:16 PM
I took that bit more as Shredder and Splinter's link before the turtles existed.

Absolutely love the look of the turtles.

TimeSplitter
March 27th, 2014, 1:20 PM
I'm stoked. The turtles themselves look fantastic. Looks like it'll be fun.

I'm not sure it means Shredder created them, it might mean he was working on the ooze in an effort to create something else. But having him be involved in their creation does add an interesting element to the story.

That makes sense. Agree, love the look.

mth
March 27th, 2014, 1:25 PM
I took that bit more as Shredder and Splinter's link before the turtles existed.

Absolutely love the look of the turtles.

:yes: Might have nothing to do with the ooze. Trying to 'create heroes" could just be that he and Splinter were training folks together.

VHS
March 27th, 2014, 1:32 PM
I wonder what the incentive will be for Shredder to... become Shredder. Maybe he will already be a wolf in sheep's clothing, but this does add a lot to the story. We see the Foot causing mayhem in the trailer, and there's also a lady here and there... perhaps she's running the Foot or she's Shredder's right-hand Lady? It's funny going to the beginning of this thread and reading all the negative impressions people were feeling.

I really feel like the last 2-3 years have been a testament to how we should always... ALWAYS wait until the trailer hits no matter what name is attached to a movie or how bad paparazzi photos look. It's also funny how the majority of people think Bay is directing this when he's producing. Just his name alone being planted at the front of it all makes fans outraged.

mth
March 27th, 2014, 1:41 PM
Think I'll retitle the thread.

Kimura Kid
March 27th, 2014, 1:41 PM
Yeah this looks great! Haha!

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 3:16 PM
Bit of an odd tone for the trailer. It seems dark in spots, but the Turtles seem to be having some goofy fun.

I still want to know what the rationale was for casting Megan Fox.

The movie could go either way. I'm not expecting a classic, but hopefully it's something that the new generation of fans will enjoy.


I really feel like the last 2-3 years have been a testament to how we should always... ALWAYS wait until the trailer hits no matter what name is attached to a movie or how bad paparazzi photos look. It's also funny how the majority of people think Bay is directing this when he's producing. Just his name alone being planted at the front of it all makes fans outraged.Dude, it's just a teaser. We still know fuck all about the movie or the quality of it. Terminator: Salvation had some great trailers, but that movie was decidedly not good.

Jonathan Leibesman is the director and it's not like he has stellar track record.

It's always good to lower your expectations when going into something like this.

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 3:25 PM
Also, why are they so fucking tall? The Turtles are supposed to be like 5 feet.

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 3:41 PM
I really feel like the last 2-3 years have been a testament to how we should always... ALWAYS wait until the trailer hits no matter what name is attached to a movie or how bad paparazzi photos look. It's also funny how the majority of people think Bay is directing this when he's producing. Just his name alone being planted at the front of it all makes fans outraged.

Here's the trailer for Transformers 2...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59vVThHvmGU

Here's Transformers 2...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYaMmjTd2o

mth
March 27th, 2014, 3:45 PM
Also, why are they so fucking tall? The Turtles are supposed to be like 5 feet.
And Wolverine's 5'3".

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 3:52 PM
And Wolverine's 5'3".

I would have preferred Wolverine to have retained his height, but it's hard to find a good actor of that size. The Turtles are a different story considering they're CGI and it would have been possible to make them the correct height.

mth
March 27th, 2014, 3:57 PM
Yeah, that point occurred to me after I made my post. But to me, their height's a fairly minor issue. With Wolverine, it's kind of part of his character whereas I don't think it really matters as much with TMNT.

VHS
March 27th, 2014, 4:00 PM
Dude, it's just a teaser. We still know fuck all about the movie or the quality of it. Terminator: Salvation had some great trailers, but that movie was decidedly not good.

Jonathan Leibesman is the director and it's not like he has stellar track record.

It's always good to lower your expectations when going into something like this.

Yeah, you're right. This movie sucks! :rolleyes:

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 4:01 PM
i know somone that has a turtles tattoo on there shin... and lets just say one of them has a tail......... and it doesn't look like a tail

http://1doubt.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1Doubt-penis_of_turtle.jpg

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 4:05 PM
Yeah, that point occurred to me after I made my post. But to me, their height's a fairly minor issue. With Wolverine, it's kind of part of his character whereas I don't think it really matters as much with TMNT.

I think the Turtles' height is pretty important. Their relatively diminutive size is part of what makes the team aspect so cool. That's what "Turtle Power" means. A single Turtle can kick some Foot Clan ass, but it takes their combined forces to take down a big bad. Making them hulking beasts just takes a big part of the magic away for me.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind that much if they were 6 ft. in this movie, but they look they're over 7 ft. tall.

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 4:05 PM
Yeah, you're right. This movie sucks! :rolleyes:

It could be great, but realistically it probably won't be...

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 4:06 PM
Yeah, you're right. This movie sucks! :rolleyes:

At what point did I say that? We've seen a minute and thirty seconds of it. It's impossible to know one way or the other.

LOCONUT
March 27th, 2014, 4:09 PM
I whacked off during Jennifer's Body FTW.

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 4:25 PM
If you want something to get excited over, the screenplay was written by the guys who wrote Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol...
Then again, the final writer was the guy whose only noteworthy credits are Snow White and the Huntsman, Divergent and Killing Season...

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 4:27 PM
Hollywood loves their unnecessary rewrites.

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 4:38 PM
Nickelodeon Films occasionally produces a good movie... like... Rango...
I swear if this movie ends up like The Last Airbender, I'm finding some kittens and punching them in the face...

Atty
March 27th, 2014, 4:54 PM
I whacked off during Jennifer's Body FTW.

Anyone who didn't is very likely gay.

ReDPath
March 27th, 2014, 5:31 PM
No interest.

The Turtles look good, but the movie is going to be built around April and the Shredder.

Not what I signed up for.

Nash Diesel
March 27th, 2014, 5:41 PM
So was the first one though. Well, not just April and Shredder, but you had that little bitch Danny's story. They barely touched on the backstory of the turtles or Splinter, and everything they did was to further April or Shredder's storyline. And I hear Will Arnett is playing Casey Jones, which I think will be pretty radical.

Jimmy Zero
March 27th, 2014, 5:41 PM
I like it... I like it... I like it. :yes:

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Full-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Trailer-Kicks-Serious-Shell-42285.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRipBOQl95o&feature=share&list=PLLSCYeT7rK oWiN94Qxu2h_H2lYJGVIWst

Well, color me impressed. I was not expecting to want to see this movie.

The CGI looks really good. Still, I'm not holding out hope that this movie will be anything other than a turd.

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 6:01 PM
No interest.

The Turtles look good, but the movie is going to be built around April and the Shredder.

Not what I signed up for.

You're basing this on what, again? The minute and a half teaser trailer? Of course they're going to play up the human element in the first trailer. That's how you sell a movie to people who aren't familiar with the franchise.

ReDPath
March 27th, 2014, 6:14 PM
Remove the Turtles.

Insert the Transformers.

I'll go with the track record. The first Bayformers was about a boy, his car and the hottest girl in school.

Ninja Turtles gives off the idea of the story of a hipster reporter and a businessman whose either lost it along the way or was always a baddie.

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 6:26 PM
So you're just basing this off of your own assumptions.

You're dumping on the first Michael Bay Transformers, but that was the only decent one of the lot. These movies need a human angle to succeed with general audiences. The 1990 Ninja Turtles movie focused on April O'Neil, Casey Jones and that one troubled teenager for the source of a lot of its drama.

How the fuck does Megan Fox look like a hipster in this? Do you know what a hipster is?

Atty
March 27th, 2014, 6:32 PM
Bay directed Transformers. Bay did not direct this.

Jimmy Zero
March 27th, 2014, 6:32 PM
And the second TMNT movie focused a lot on that pizza delivery guy. And Vanilla Ice. GO NINJA!

Atty
March 27th, 2014, 6:33 PM
GO NINJA GO NINJA GO!

Jimmy Zero
March 27th, 2014, 6:36 PM
GO GO GO GO!!!

Atty
March 27th, 2014, 6:37 PM
Can Big Daddy Cool voice Rock Steady? Please.

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 6:58 PM
And I hear Will Arnett is playing Casey Jones
According to a Zap2It interview, Will Arnett is playing Vernon Fenwick, who in this film is April O'Neil's cameraman...

http://cdn.chud.com/b/b2/350x700px-LL-b271bc19_vernon5.jpeg

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2013/07/will-arnett-on-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-vernon-becomes-part-of-the-team.html


"In this version, Vernon is April's cameraman, so they work together as opposed to being her adversary. He's a little reluctant when she starts talking about how she found these vigilantes and they're turtles and all this stuff and he kinds of looks at her like she's crazy. Once the action gets going and she kind of gets in trouble, Vernon steps up and helps her and then he becomes part of it as well. He helps April help the Turtles."


Abby Elliot from Saturday Night Live is on the cast and might be playing Irma...

Tyson
March 27th, 2014, 7:09 PM
I'm stoked.

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 7:13 PM
Whoopi Goldberg's in it...

http://cdn10.mixrmedia.com/user_photos/blog/2013/05/28/92a012cedaadac711262a33f5c238ec3.jpg

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 7:14 PM
Will Arnett playing a good guy is cool. The more Arnett on screen, the better.

Jimmy Zero
March 27th, 2014, 7:14 PM
She's playing Krang.

VHS
March 27th, 2014, 7:14 PM
So was the first one though. Well, not just April and Shredder, but you had that little bitch Danny's story. They barely touched on the backstory of the turtles or Splinter, and everything they did was to further April or Shredder's storyline. And I hear Will Arnett is playing Casey Jones, which I think will be pretty radical.

Barely touched on it? He full on explains it and even makes reference to it at the end.

mth
March 27th, 2014, 7:16 PM
I think the Turtles' height is pretty important. Their relatively diminutive size is part of what makes the team aspect so cool. That's what "Turtle Power" means. A single Turtle can kick some Foot Clan ass, but it takes their combined forces to take down a big bad. Making them hulking beasts just takes a big part of the magic away for me.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind that much if they were 6 ft. in this movie, but they look they're over 7 ft. tall.
Fair point. I'm not sure I'd interpret it that way but I get the argument against making them hulking 7 footers. Still, if there's an emphasis on them being somewhat inexperienced and immature teenagers with occasional personality clashes that get in the way of functioning as a unified group, it can make up for the size issue in my mind.

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 7:31 PM
If there's a reason for them being that big then I won't have a problem with it, but something tells me that decision was made based solely on the silly idea that "bigger is better".

ReDPath
March 27th, 2014, 7:35 PM
So you're just basing this off of your own assumptions.

You're dumping on the first Michael Bay Transformers, but that was the only decent one of the lot. These movies need a human angle to succeed with general audiences. The 1990 Ninja Turtles movie focused on April O'Neil, Casey Jones and that one troubled teenager for the source of a lot of its drama.

How the fuck does Megan Fox look like a hipster in this? Do you know what a hipster is?

What exactly are you failing to grasp? I mean, are you just dodging the overall point in favor of pointless offensive nonsense?

Anything associated with Michael Bay, regardless of his role (Director, Producer, etc) is more often than not...SHIT.

I think that's a safe assumption to make at this point based off what I've seen of anything related to anything he's a part of. I mean what are you going to say now? Call me silly for assuming something associated with Bay isn't worth seeing? Pretend im the only one who criticizes anything associated with him? I don't know if you're a Bay fan or not. Maybe I should just assume you are or something. It would make as much sense as you having a problem with me saying the film isn't going to be worth seeing because the human element will likely outweigh the title characters. You telling me they have to sell the movie on a human angle is something we already know, however it doesn't mean we have to like it. Far as im concerned, the best thing for the Turtles franchise would be a good sleep for about 10-15 years, then let someone else take a crack at it. It'd be something if nothing else.

I do not think the movie is going to be very good.

Bill Casey
March 27th, 2014, 7:46 PM
If there's a reason for them being that big then I won't have a problem with it, but something tells me that decision was made based solely on the silly idea that "bigger is better".
I think their increased size is to make it look even sillier when they go around disguised in trench coats...
I expect them to get stuck in doorways, have trouble getting into cars and hitting their heads on stuff...

mth
March 27th, 2014, 7:59 PM
Turtles in trenchcoats, you say?

http://gogreenmachine.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-movie-shots-raphael-3.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eh8ydIdr3yo/UsWyGhELNvI/AAAAAAAAm7w/GdvPlh2k0hU/s1600/teenage+mutant+ninja+turtles+2014+movie.png
http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MEGAN-FOX-on-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Movie-Set-in-New-York-6.jpg
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.pictures.zimbio.co m%2Fpc%2FTeenage%252BMutant%252BNinja%252BTurtles% 252BAlan%252BRitchson%252BBWADQnQYm0gl.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zimbio.com%2Fpictures%2 FZLyQ0501nb6%2FAlan%2BRitchson%2Bdressed%2BNinja%2 BTurtle%2Bfilms%2Bscene%2FBWADQnQYm0g%2FTeenage%2B Mutant%2BNinja%2BTurtles&h=594&w=571&tbnid=frm-_bIVo1jQCM%3A&zoom=1&docid=VaUH9Hrb5BzNlM&ei=_Lo0U_SBLKj82wWE-YD4Cw&tbm=isch&ved=0CEsQhBwwFjjIAQ&iact=rc&dur=295&page=21&start=216&ndsp=12
Oh, and he doesn't look 7 feet all next to Megan Fox there...only a few inches taller.

Jimmy Zero
March 27th, 2014, 8:03 PM
"No one will notice these weapons in my perfect hiding spot!"

Those boots are Roos.

VHS
March 27th, 2014, 8:06 PM
I keep forgetting how much dead-fish-face Fox always is. :lol:

Jimmy Zero
March 27th, 2014, 8:08 PM
It's a shame what she's done to herself.

She was pretty damn gorgeous when she first started getting famous.

Beer-Belly
March 27th, 2014, 8:17 PM
What exactly are you failing to grasp? I mean, are you just dodging the overall point in favor of pointless offensive nonsense?

Anything associated with Michael Bay, regardless of his role (Director, Producer, etc) is more often than not...SHIT.

I think that's a safe assumption to make at this point based off what I've seen of anything related to anything he's a part of. I mean what are you going to say now? Call me silly for assuming something associated with Bay isn't worth seeing? Pretend im the only one who criticizes anything associated with him? I don't know if you're a Bay fan or not. Maybe I should just assume you are or something. It would make as much sense as you having a problem with me saying the film isn't going to be worth seeing because the human element will likely outweigh the title characters. You telling me they have to sell the movie on a human angle is something we already know, however it doesn't mean we have to like it. Far as im concerned, the best thing for the Turtles franchise would be a good sleep for about 10-15 years, then let someone else take a crack at it. It'd be something if nothing else.

I do not think the movie is going to be very good.

I never had a problem with you thinking it will be shit because of Bay's involvement, dummy. Your original point was a bunch of nonsense about how the movie will suck because it's going to revolve around April O'Neil and Shredder which you just assumed because they were prominently featured in the teaser trailer.

Atty
March 27th, 2014, 9:48 PM
Did someone mention Abbie Elliot without pictures? For shame!

http://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/abby-elliott-snl.jpg

Tyson
March 28th, 2014, 1:19 AM
Turtles in trenchcoats, you say?

http://gogreenmachine.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-movie-shots-raphael-3.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eh8ydIdr3yo/UsWyGhELNvI/AAAAAAAAm7w/GdvPlh2k0hU/s1600/teenage+mutant+ninja+turtles+2014+movie.png
http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MEGAN-FOX-on-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Movie-Set-in-New-York-6.jpg
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.pictures.zimbio.co m%2Fpc%2FTeenage%252BMutant%252BNinja%252BTurtles% 252BAlan%252BRitchson%252BBWADQnQYm0gl.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zimbio.com%2Fpictures%2 FZLyQ0501nb6%2FAlan%2BRitchson%2Bdressed%2BNinja%2 BTurtle%2Bfilms%2Bscene%2FBWADQnQYm0g%2FTeenage%2B Mutant%2BNinja%2BTurtles&h=594&w=571&tbnid=frm-_bIVo1jQCM%3A&zoom=1&docid=VaUH9Hrb5BzNlM&ei=_Lo0U_SBLKj82wWE-YD4Cw&tbm=isch&ved=0CEsQhBwwFjjIAQ&iact=rc&dur=295&page=21&start=216&ndsp=12
Oh, and he doesn't look 7 feet all next to Megan Fox there...only a few inches taller.

She's 5'4". He's around the 6' mark, maybe a little taller.

Anaconda Sniper
March 28th, 2014, 2:35 AM
Ehhhhhhhh....I'll save my word til I see the movie. Not a fan of the designs and height of the turtles though..and not a fan of Bay. I'm hoping this is decent at least.

The_Mike
March 28th, 2014, 12:25 PM
Well, color me impressed. I was not expecting to want to see this movie.

The CGI looks really good. Still, I'm not holding out hope that this movie will be anything other than a turd.

Maybe there's something wrong with one of our monitors, because I thought the CGI looked horrendous. The turtles and everything they touch look like a FMV from Final Fantasy VIII.

This whole thing looks like a lampooning of Bay's terribleness and general Hollywood hackery. A woman swooning, for goodness sake...

Beer-Belly
April 3rd, 2014, 2:21 PM
So, Johnny Knoxville is voicing Leonardo...

mth
April 3rd, 2014, 2:30 PM
:yes: Not sure that's the turtle I'd peg him as but not a bad choice for a voice.

Beer-Belly
April 3rd, 2014, 2:32 PM
It's a bizarre choice. I could see him voicing Michelangelo, but Leo?

Might as well get Abe Vigoda to voice Raphael, for fuck's sake.

Atty
April 3rd, 2014, 2:40 PM
That would be amazing, to be fair.

mth
April 3rd, 2014, 2:41 PM
:lol: Overreacting much? Sweet jesus. They're a bunch of teenagers, I could see him voicing any of them.

Beer-Belly
April 3rd, 2014, 2:46 PM
I just wanted to make the snarky remark about Abe Vigoda more than anything else. The Knoxville choice is a little strange to me, but it's not something I think will hinder the movie in anyway.

Nash Diesel
April 3rd, 2014, 4:17 PM
It didn't hinder the first one when Corey Feldman of all people did the voice of Donatello, in hindsight he had the perfect voice, but I remember as a kid thinking "Edward Frog=Ninja turtle? Wtf?"

Atty
April 4th, 2014, 11:39 PM
So, this all put me on a bit of a Turtles kick. Just watched the TMNT movie from a few years back and am pretty sure that's the best Turtles movie I'll see. By the end, I really felt that's the style they should be in rather than live action.

The Turtles Forever animated film was also buckets of fun.

Bill Casey
April 12th, 2014, 4:36 PM
[Johnny Knoxville] is a bizarre choice. I could see him voicing Michelangelo, but Leo?

Surely Michelangelo would be Steve-O...

Judas Iscariot
June 25th, 2014, 12:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zgzgvo4Fu4

Tyson
June 25th, 2014, 1:02 AM
I'm in.

And I think I'm going to have to track down the 1990 movie.

Hero!
August 16th, 2014, 9:48 PM
Watched it tonight. Lots of good comedy, the turtles were great. Shredder was weak as a character, used mainly as a weapon instead. Megan Fox looks unrecognizable these days. Honestly, though, not a great movie, but a good start if they wanna make a series of films.

Tyson
August 17th, 2014, 3:36 AM
Finally managed to see this, I loved it. Not sure if the movie was actually that good, or if it was the childhood nostalgia that made it better than it actually was. Lots of laughs, the Turtles had some great writing/dialogue. That elevator scene was great.

And welcome back Megan Fox to the category of incredibly attractive women, she looked so good.

Can't wait for the sequel...

LOCONUT
August 17th, 2014, 4:14 AM
This thing is getting brutal reviews.

Tyson
August 17th, 2014, 4:39 AM
This thing is getting brutal reviews.

From who? Movie critics? No shit, those fuckers are so negative it is depressing.

Why do we lose the good people when those arrogant buttholes get to stick around?

LOCONUT
August 17th, 2014, 4:45 AM
Good call. I hadn't seen the 61% audience score. Only the 19% critic.

I have major love/hate going on right now with Rotten Tomatoes.