Pro Wrestling Guerilla

[Ringo]

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Now that we have a separate TNA forum and a nice big forum dedicated to indies and everything else, we might as well use it!

So this is one of the bigger independent promotions these days. All usual indy all-stars work for this company, and the likes of Punk, Danielson, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and so forth have in the past.


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This happened last night. It's their big annual one night tag tournament. Here are the results:


3/4 PWG results in Reseda, Calif.: complete DDT4 tag tournament results - TNA tag team in finals, PWG Title match announced for next show

Mar 5, 2011 - 1:35:13 AM

Pro Wrestling Guerrilla DDT4 tournament results
March 4, 2011
Reseda, Calif.
Report by Matt Massingham, PWTorch correspondent


PWG promoted an eight-team, seven-match tag tournament to determine the annual DDT4 tournament winners and the next challengers to PWG tag champions El Generico & Paul London.

(1) Young Bucks (Generation Me in TNA) beat Brandon Gatson & Willie Mack in a First Round tournament match. The Bucks hit a combination superkick on Mack for the win.

(2) American Wolves (Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards) beat RockNES Monsters (Johnny Goodtime & Johnny Yuma) in a First Round tournament match. The Wolves won with a powerbomb/lungblower combination into Edwards's Achilles lock submission finisher.

(3) ROH tag champions Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero & PWG champion Claudio Castagnoli) beat the Cutler Brothers (Brandon & Dustin Cutler) in a First Round tournament match. KOW won with a pair of big kicks to the head.

(4) Kevin Steen & Akira Tozawa beat The Briscoes (Jay & Mark) in a First Round tournament match. Steenzowa won with a doomsday heel kick.

(5) Young Bucks (Generation Me in TNA) beat American Wolves (Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards) in a semi-final tournament match. Bucks won with a roll-up. After the match, Richards talked up Edwards and asked him to come back to PWG.

(6) Kevin Steen & Akira Tozawa beat ROH tag champions Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero & PWG champion Claudio Castagnoli) in a semi-final tournament match. Hero missed with a moonsault and Tozawa pinned him with la magistral roll.

The result of the sixth tournament match set up Young Bucks (GenMe) vs. Steen & Tozawa in the DDT4 tournament finals.

- PWG announced Claudio Castagnoli (champion) vs. Joey Ryan (challenger) at the next PWG show on April 9. On cue, the first-ever Joey Ryan Invitational started with Ryan Taylor vs. Brian Cage.

(7a) Ryan Taylor beat Brian Cage in a Joey Ryan Invitational match. Taylor won with a flipping cravate.

(7b) "Pretty" Peter Avalon beat Ryan Taylor in a Joey Ryan Invitational match. Avalon won with a roll-up and hook of the tights.

(7c) Candace LaRae beat Peter Avalon in a Joey Ryan Invitational. Candace was next in the gauntlet match and Joey superkicked Avalon to give Candace the win, setting up Candace vs. Joey in the finals.

(7d) Joey Ryan beat Candace LaRae via submission to win the Joey Ryan Invitational. This was the latest installment of their years-long feud on PWG. Joey won with a superkick, then End Scene for the submission victory. Typical inter-gender match.

(8) Young Bucks (GenMe) beat Kevin Steen & Akira Tozawa to win the DDT4 tournament. GenMe won with the More Bang For Your Buck on both Steen and Tozawa. The fans didn't seem to be happy with the Bucks winning. (Lots of history with the Bucks holding the Tag Titles for nearly two years from mid-2008 to mid-2010 before Generico & London won the titles.)

After the match, the Bucks cut a heel promo saying they're coming for London & Generico after winning the tournament. They dedicated the win to TNA president Dixie Carter.

Upcoming title matches: PWG champion Claudio Castagnoli vs. Joey Ryan, PWG tag champions El Generico & Paul London vs. Young Bucks (GenMe).

...

As an aside, has anybody seen the last couple of Kurt Russelreunion shows? They boasted rather stacked cards and I never got around to seeing the full shows. I may download them, but if they're particularly good I'd consider purchasing the DVDs.

Here are the cards by the way:



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Eight-Person Tag Team Match
1. Johnny Goodtime & Malachi Jackson & Candice LeRae & Jerome "LTP" Robinson vs. The Cutler Bros. (Brandon & Dustin Cutler) & Ryan Taylor & Christina Von Eerie

Singles Match
2. Brandon Bonham vs. Brandon Gatson

Singles Match
3. Human Tornado vs. Super Crazy

Singles Match
4. Davey Richards vs. "Mr. Wrestling" Kevin Steen

Tag Team Match
5. "The Professional" Scott Lost & Joey Ryan vs. KAI & The Great Muta

Singles Match
6. El Generico vs. Jushin Thunder Liger

Non-Title Tag Team Match
7. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) vs. Brian Kendrick & Paul London

Three-Way Match
8. Chris Hero vs. Roderick Strong vs. Rob Van Dam



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Eight Person Tag Team Match
1. "Pretty" Peter Avalon, Caleb Konley, "Manscout" Jake Manning, & ODB vs. Cedric Alexander, Brandon Gatson, Candice LeRae, & Willie Mack

Singles Match
2. Mr. Águila vs. Rey Bucanero

Singles Match
3. "Supernatural" Shane Helms vs. "Hollywood Submission Machine" Joey Ryan

Singles Match
4. Low Ki vs. Davey Richards

Jake "The Snake" Roberts Retirement Match
5. Sinn Bodhi vs. Jake "The Snake" Roberts

Legends Wrestleroyal Battle Royale
6. Danny Davis vs. Mike Graham vs. Jimmy Hart vs. Tito Santana vs. Barry Orton vs. Barbarian vs. Rock Riddle vs. Shane Douglas vs. The Warlord vs. Shane Helms vs. Chavo Guerrero vs. Savio Vega vs. "Cowboy" Bob Orton vs. Mando Guerrero vs. Cruel Connection vs. Terry Funk vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Vampiro vs. Sean Morley vs. Tatanka

Singles Match
7. Chris Hero vs. "Mr. Wrestling" Kevin Steen

DDT4 Entry Four-Way Tag Team Match
8. The Cutler Brothers (Brandon & Dustin Cutler) vs. Fightin' Taylor Boys (Brian Cage-Taylor & Ryan Taylor) vs. RockNES Monsters (Johnny Goodtime & Johnny Yuma) vs. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson)

Pro Wrestling Guerrilla World Championship Title Match
9. Claudio Castagnoli (Champion) vs. El Generico (Challenger)

So yeah. There may not be much activity in this thread for some time, especially when you consider how the interest in ROH seems to have waned over the last couple of years, but I thought we might as well get some indy threads started up. I know a number of posters here got into non-WWE/TNA feds through these boards. It'd be cool if that happened again and we got a nice little group together following these promotions. While I'm still very much into WWE these days, there's no harm in having an alternative now and again.

[Cewsh]

Cewsh Reviews actually reviewed that first show, but our copy of it was called Kurt Russellmania.

[Ringo]

Yeah, I remember it being called that as well. I'm not really sure why it appears to have been changed in retrospect, but I do know that these shows are part of the WrestleReunion conventions that they do every January. I shall look back in time for your review... :yes:

[Cewsh]

That second one does have an amazing card, though. We may have to review that one too down the road.

I may be alone here, but for some reason i've never really gotten into PWG. Maybe its because after all the time its been around, its never really progressed hugely and still looks pretty much the same. Add that to the fact that its basically just a feeder league for ROH and the lack of any really definitive storylines and it just falls flat to me.

Its always good to see the talent that comes through there, I just feel like they're perpetually underachieving for what they have to work with.

[Ringo]

Claudio, Jake Roberts, Willie Mack, ESSA RIOS, Shane Helms and all those legends on the same card? How can that be anything other than completely amazing?

[Cewsh]

Well, in fairness, RVD, Davey Richards, Great Muta, Jushin Liger and Super Crazy didn't do a ton for the first one.

[Ringo]

I'd take the 2010 batch over that lot any day! :p But I get your point.

[Cewsh]

I do love that they have Jake Roberts basically having, and losing, retirement matches every weekend, though.

[MichaelC]

It's his memory. He can't remember having them.

[MichaelC]

I have found a collection of PWG's Best Matches of 2010, so I shall download and have a watch at some point then.

[Ringo]

:eek:

Link me, samurai!

[MichaelC]

Haven't not seen ANY PWG, I can't comment on the greatness or lack of....it's just in a thread i found in another forum called "Greatest PWG matches of 2010"

Davey Richards vs Kevin Steen - Kurt RusselMania
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The Great Muta & KAI vs Scott Lost & Joey Ryan - Kurt RusselMania
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El Generico vs Jushin Liger - Kurt RusselMania
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Brian Kendrick & Paul London vs Young Bucks - Kurt RusselMania
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Rob Van Dam vs Roderick Strong vs Chris Hero - Kurt RusselMania
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Johnny Goodtime & Jerome LTP Robinson vs Malachi CK Jackson & Ryan Taylor - As The Worm Turns
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Chris Sabin vs Roderick Strong - As The Worm Turns
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Alex Shelley vs Chris Hero - As The Worm Turns
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Young Bucks vs El Generico & Chuck Taylor - PWG World Tag Team Championships - As The Worm Turns
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Davey Richards vs Kenny Omega - PWG World Championship - As The Worm Turns
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Brandon Gatson vs Ryan Taylor - Titannica
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Davey Richards vs Roderick Strong - PWG World Championship - Titannica
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Young Bucks vs Briscoes - PWG World Tag Team Championships - Titannica
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Young Bucks vs Johnny Goodtime & Jerome LTP Robinson - PWG World Tag Team Championships - DDT4 2010
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Briscoes vs YAMATO & Akira Tozawa - DDT4 2010
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Chris Hero vs Brandon Bonham - DDT4 2010
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Paul London & El Generico vs Young Bucks - PWG World Tag Team Championships - DDT4 2010
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Johnny Goodtime & Jerome LTP Robinson vs Los Luchas - Dio!
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Young Bucks & Malachi Jackson vs The Cutler Brothers & Joey Ryan - Dio!
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El Generico & Paul London vs Kevin Steen & Brian Kendrick - PWG World Tag Team Championships - Dio!
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Brandon Bonham vs Brian Cage - Seven
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Scott Lost vs Scorpio Sky - Seven
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Bryan Danielson vs Roderick Strong - Seven
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Davey Richards vs Chris Hero - PWG World Championship - Seven
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Paul London & El Generico vs Young Bucks vs The Cutler Brothers - Guerilla Warfare Match - PWG World Tag Team Championships - Seven
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The Cutler Brothers vs Young Bucks - BOLA 2010 Night 1
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Claudio Castagnoli vs Ricochet - BOLA 2010 Night 1
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Akira Tozawa vs El Generico - BOLA 2010 Night 1
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Chris Hero vs Christopher Daniels - BOLA 2010 Night 1
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Chris Hero vs Akira Tozawa - BOLA 2010 Night 2
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Chuck Taylor, Ryan Taylor & Brain Cage vs Rocky Romero, Ricochet & Johnny Goodtime - BOLA 2010 Night 2
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Joey Ryan vs Chris Hero - BOLA 2010 Night 2
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Brian Cage vs Johnny Yuma - The Curse Of Guerrilla Island
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Briscoes vs The Cutler Brothers - The Curse Of Guerrilla Island
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Ricochet vs El Generico - The Curse Of Guerrilla Island
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Claudio Castagnoli vs Chris Hero vs Joey Ryan vs Brandon Gatson - PWG World Championship - The Curse Of Guerrilla Island
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Young Bucks vs Ryan & Brian Cage-Taylor - Cyanide: A Loving Tribute To Poison
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Kevin Steen vs Akira Tozawa - Cyanide: A Loving Tribute To Poison
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El Generico & Paul London vs Kings Of Wrestling - PWG World Tag Team Championships - Cyanide: A Loving Tribute To Poison
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[Ringo]

Most of the matches I've seen heavily pimped from last year are included here, so thanks, this is perfect.

[Cewsh]

I want to say up front that the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th matches on there I either thought were okay or did not like but others might.

But Steen/Richards was fucking garbage. Skip it.

[Ringo]

Question for you Cewsh. I want your overall thoughts on Davey Richards. Is he the new "best wrestler in the world who isn't signed to a major promotion"? Is he the new "Chris Benoit without the double murder who will finally realise his dream by clawing his way to he top and winning the World Title at Wrestlemania 40"? Or is he a "short arse from the Kurt Angle in 2006 school of overkill with no idea how to work a proper match"? Everybody seems to have a different opinion on him. I've seen plenty of his matches over the last couple of years, but I'm not really sure where I stand beyond "woah he's pretty intense and stuff - good match!".

What's the deal?!

[Cewsh]

Well, that's a complex question, because I think for a great deal of his career he was the latter, not having any idea what he was going for except I WANT TO BE CHRIS BENOIT SOOOOOOOO BAD. As a result it didn't really work, and everytime people tried to push him it just never clicked right. He had some good matches here and there, but since he had no character to sell, the matches were very empty, and were pretty universally disappointing. As a result I always thought he was an overrated shithead.

BUT, this past year in ROH he finally found his character. As a heel he is godawful, but as a face who will take unbelievable punishment because he's just too stubborn to know when to quit, who is also incredibly dangerous (if not too smart) he is amazing. genuinely amazing. It results in some incredibly epic matches where he gets rocked by everything, sells it in a very unique way, and then has firey, instinctive, but not neccesarily clever comebacks.

He's dangerous but beatable, but you have to fucking kill him to put him down. Great gimmick. As a result i've done a total 180 on him and think he's fantastic...in ROH. Every other copy books him as a heel or as Chris Benoit and it does not work.

Go and track down his matches with Tyler Black from last year. For two guys I went in thinking we the shits (Black still is) those are some of the best indy matches I have ever seen. And its all Richards.

[Ringo]

Davey Richards vs. Tyler Black (ROH 6/19/2010)
Davey Richards vs. Tyler Black (ROH on HDNET 10/18/10)

These two are pimped over at your favourite wrestling message board. Were there any others? I'll watch all of them.

[MichaelC]

What favourite message board is this?

[Ringo]

DVDVR. Cewsh isn't a fan.

[Cewsh]

Davey Richards vs. Tyler Black (ROH 6/19/2010)
Davey Richards vs. Tyler Black (ROH on HDNET 10/18/10)

These two are pimped over at your favourite wrestling message board. Were there any others? I'll watch all of them.

Yep, those are the two. And we reviewed both of them as well for more in depth thoughts on my changing opinion of Davey. But yes, i'd recommend either or both. Just free up some time. They aint short.


What favourite message board is this?


DVDVR. Cewsh isn't a fan.

That's because its mostly populated with bandwagoning twats who can't accept opinions other than their own.

[MichaelC]

Isn't it even more cliquey than the Oratory?

[Cewsh]

Much more, yes.

And they pretty much hold themselves above all other internet wrestling fans. The word "pretentious" gets thrown a lot to describe the place.

[Ringo]

I don't find it to be particularly cliquey at all. The Oratory is awful and hurts my brain. DVDVR is a great source of "what to watch" from all areas of wrestling all over the world from every era. The discussion is good much of the time, but like anywhere its not all great. There are plenty of people with very rigid opinions though, so I know where Cewsh is coming from.

[Cewsh]

In fairness, the reason they hold themselves higher over there is because they have a lot of really smart people who are very well informed and there's a ton of in depth discussion. The Oratory is just a hive full of, frankly, morons who worship John C and his crappy crap.

[Ringo]

I wonder if John C still thinks Taker can't wrestle.

[MichaelC]

Well, I got banned from the Oratory. Heh.

I am on here, the Wrestling Forum (for the media) and Wrestlecrap. I can't abide with cliqueyness though.

[Cewsh]

I wonder if John C still thinks Taker can't wrestle.

I think he picks controversial opinions out of a hat because he isn't interesting enough to actually have any of his own.

[Cewsh]

Well, I got banned from the Oratory. Heh.

I am on here, the Wrestling Forum (for the media) and Wrestlecrap. I can't abide with cliqueyness though.

I really only post here. Other forums find me unlikable. :cry:

[MichaelC]

I wonder if John C still thinks Taker can't wrestle.

They didn't like Taker in general. Or Owen. Or Bossman.

My Hennig love was appreciated, kind of.

I didn't really fit in.

[MichaelC]

I think he picks controversial opinions out of a hat because he isn't interesting enough to actually have any of his own.

Well, "Owen for the HOF" and "Bossman was good" were my controversial opinions online about ten years ago. Now I've gone mainstream!

[Cewsh]

Who do they like?

[MichaelC]

Well, Glancy (who was a pretty damn good reviewer, actually) loved Dusty Rhodes.

And Defrost posts/posted there. Lots of Kenta, I recall.

[blackening]

Haven't not seen ANY PWG, I can't comment on the greatness or lack of....it's just in a thread i found in another forum called "Greatest PWG matches of 2010"
Thanks for the links. I'm definitely going to check some of those out. I think I never really got into PWG because I never committed to buying any of their DVDs because I never know half of the guys on the card.

[Ringo]

Surely you know the majority of the guys on the DDT4 2011 and Kurt RussellReunion cards?

[mth]

If anyone can get me a download link for the Aguila vs. Bucanero match I'll kiss you on the mouth. I didn't see it in that list Michael posted.

[Ringo]

That's from 1/30/11, and the DVD is being released shortly, so once it is out somebody will rip it and upload it and I'll send it your way... :yes:

[mth]

:wiggle: Bless you, sir.

[blackening]

Surely you know the majority of the guys on the DDT4 2011 and Kurt RussellReunion cards?
Yeah. I'll have to look into getting those.

[Defrost]

Next up


Hoping to attract investments from temporarily unemployed multi-millionaire television actors, the Pro Wrestling Guerrilla Board of Directors has announced that the follow up event to this Friday's DDT4 will simply be titled WINNING. WINNING takes place on Saturday, April 9, 2011 at American Legion Post #308 in Reseda, CA at 8:00PM.

More details about the event will be announced next week.

[Ringo]

Making my way through the recommended matches from 2010. Just watched the main event from Russellreunion with RVD. Found it pretty boring to be honest. Bland, unemotional, and oh look guys it is Rob van Dam! Bleh. More to come!

[Cewsh]

Yep, pretty much my thoughts on it too.

[toady]

I'd consider watching PWG if one of their characters was a guy in a monkey suit, going by the name Pro Wrestling Gorilla.

[mth]

I've been wanting someone to use that gimmick for years.

[Bert]

I have a really bad memory when it comes to wrestling and what matches/PPV's I've seen but I remember watching a few shows from 09 a few months ago that I downloaded from Xtreme Wrestling Torrents.

When I feel like watching wrestling I usually find some PWG because I find it more entertaining than ROH and WWE (most of the time), I don't even consider TNA an option.

It's probably because of the PWG commentary, I love it. I can't watch PWG matches without that great commentary either.

I might have to download some of the shows from 2010, Xtreme Wrestling Torrents has a freeleech pack of all the 2010 shows. I also seem to have invites if anyone wants one.

[blackening]

I'm downloading that pack of 2010 shows. Thanks for mentioning it.

[Ringo]

Me too!

[Bert]

I'll take one.


Me too!

MSN email ok to send them to? If not PM me another one.

[Defrost]

I'd consider watching PWG if one of their characters was a guy in a monkey suit, going by the name Pro Wrestling Gorilla.

Paul London walks around with Finnegan the Space Owl.

[Ringo]

Yah, that's fine. :yes:

[Ringo]

Watched four more PWG matches from 2010. Two from "As The Worm Turns" and two from "DDT4".

First one was Davey Richards taking the PWG title from Kenny Omega. It's about what you would expect from these two guys in an indy title match main event, but these days I don't think that's a bad thing. Omega is a showy wrestler and I enjoy his regular junior tags in Japan with Ibushi, but this match is all about Davey. I do feel as though he didn't need to do as much as he did here, but then I guess it WAS a world title match and was a big deal for Davey to finally win the top belt in the company he got his big start in (post-match promo is cool). On the whole, I enjoyed the match but felt I could have done with a bit less to be honest. Why are you kicking the absolute shit out of this guy's head as if you want to murder him? Save that for a proper blood feud Davey.

Hero vs. Shelley from earlier on in the show was pretty great though. Shelley surprises everyone by working more of a mat based match, which made sense because he had an injured back and although he did jump around a fair bit, it was noticeably toned down from his usual MCMG craziness. There was one reaaaaally cool submission where Shelley twisted Hero's arm around in ways it shouldn't be twisted. The ending was stretch was real nice too.

Gen Me/LTP & Johnny Goodtime in the first round of DDT4 was a pretty fun "spotfest" from the four guys. Full of insanity and cool looking spots, but the key is a) threading them all together and b) not going on too long. This was only like 7 or 8 minutes and as a result it was much more enjoyable than 15-20 minutes of this sort of thing, which ends up grating.

Last but not least, Chris Hero vs. Brandon Bonham. This was pretty brutal. My favourite basic wrestling match story is probably VET vs. YOUNG PUNK, and this was exactly that. They basically just beat the absolute piss out of each other for a while. It was enjoyable because Hero is known for his powerful strikes and this guy Brandon Bonham (who I'd never heard of) gives him everything he's got and goes toe to toe (and fist to fist and elbow to elbow) with Hero. Good stuff.

Overall, Hero/Shelley is my favourite of the bunch so far. All these guys apart from LTP and Bonham I've seen wrestle before, and so what I've learnt is thus: LTP can do cool flips and Brandon Bonham is really cool and a hard man. RECOMMENDED.

[Defrost]

I watch BOLA every year. The best match from last year was Hero vs Tozawa.

[Ringo]

At this point in time, Chris Hero vs. just about anyone seems to be nothing less than "bloody brilliant".

I remember back in the day when people said Hero would never get offered a deal by the WWE because a) he had the most indy look ever and b) he didn't really care, but he certainly looks like he does now and it can't be long before both he and Claudio get offered contracts. They're big. They LOOK like stars. They're head and shoulders above just about anybody in the independents who hasn't wrestled for TNA or WWE yet. Castagnoli turned it down at one point I believe, but that was a while ago and I can't believe they would again.

[toady]

At this point in time, Chris Hero vs. just about anyone seems to be nothing less than "bloody brilliant".

I remember back in the day when people said Hero would never get offered a deal by the WWE because a) he had the most indy look ever and b) he didn't really care, but he certainly looks like he does now and it can't be long before both he and Claudio get offered contracts. They're big. They LOOK like stars. They're head and shoulders above just about anybody in the independents who hasn't wrestled for TNA or WWE yet. Castagnoli turned it down at one point I believe, but that was a while ago and I can't believe they would again.
I thought Claudio got signed then released? I swear i saw him wrestle in one of their development feds(can't remember if it was OVW or FCW).

[toady]

Paul London walks around with Finnegan the Space Owl.
Ok, while i'm going to need you to tell me more about this, i just gained back a shitload of respect for Paul London. Even having just heard of it, there's no way anything called "Finnegan the Space Owl" could be anything short of god like.

Please explain this as quickly as humanly possible.....please?

[Ringo]

I thought Claudio got signed then released? I swear i saw him wrestle in one of their development feds(can't remember if it was OVW or FCW).


In November 2006 it was revealed that Castagnoli had signed a developmental deal with the World Wrestling Entertainment, having impressed them with an appearance on Raw (as a police officer in a backstage segment) and a successful tryout for Deep South Wrestling. Shortly after, Castagnoli was released from his WWE contract. Reports stated that this was due to Visa problems with Castagnoli, although he disputed those reports.

Ah, so maybe it was a release. I don't THINK he ever even got round to wrestling in DSW, it all happened very quickly. Either way, it is a bit strange that they signed him and released him so soon after.

[blackening]

Everyone should watch the Paul London & El Generico vs Young Bucks vs The Cutler Brothers - Guerilla Warfare Match. It is flippy floppy clusterfuck craziness.

I also recommend Richards/Hero from Seven and London/Generico vs. Kings of Wrestling from Cyanide: A Loving Tribute To Poison.

I don't know who the two announcers are, but I really like them. I also like the atmosphere - that they don't have a guard rail and the fans can stand right up against the ring.

[Defrost]

Ok, while i'm going to need you to tell me more about this, i just gained back a shitload of respect for Paul London. Even having just heard of it, there's no way anything called "Finnegan the Space Owl" could be anything short of god like.

Please explain this as quickly as humanly possible.....please?

Paul London showed up to a PWG show with a dude in an Owl costume and then worked a match dressed as an astronaut.

http://i55.tinypic.com/257j7fl.jpg

[Cewsh]

He works pretty much every match dressed as an astronaut these days, honestly.

[Defrost]

The London/Spanky shoot interview is must watch stuff

[toady]

Paul London showed up to a PWG show with a dude in an Owl costume and then worked a match dressed as an astronaut.

http://i55.tinypic.com/257j7fl.jpg
:lol:
That's amazing

[The Rick]

I've had the PWG Sells Out Vol.1 for quite sometime. I enjoyed it pretty well. I've just never gotten around to picking up another PWG dvd. While getting the Chikara dvds I picked up PWG Sells Out Vol.3. It looks like a pretty good collection of matches.

Disc One
Are You Adequately Prepared to Rock? - October 4, 2003
1. The Briscoe Brothers (Jay & Mark Briscoe) vs. B-Boy & Super Dragon

Zombies Shouldn't Run - August 6, 2005
2. Quicksilver vs. Super Dragon

2006 Battle of Los Angeles - Night 2 - September 2, 2006
3. Arrogance ("Photogenic" Chris Bosh & Scott Lost) vs. The Briscoe Brothers (Jay & Mark Briscoe) vs. B-Boy & Homicide

All Star Weekend V - Night 1 - August 27, 2007
4. El Generico vs. "The Man That Gravity Forgot" PAC

2007 Battle of Los Angeles - Night 3 - September 2, 2007
5. Claudio Castagnoli vs. "The Man That Gravity Forgot" PAC

European Vacation II: Germany - October 28, 2007
6. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson vs. El Generico

Life During Wartime - July 6, 2008
7. The Dynasty (Scott Lost & Joey Ryan) vs. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) vs. KAZMA & MIYAWAKI

Express Written Consent - February 21, 2009
8. Paul London & The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) vs. The Dynasty International (Karl Anderson, Scott Lost, & Joey Ryan)

Disc 2
DDT4 (2009) - May 22, 2009
1. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson & Roderick Strong vs. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson)

Threemendous II - July 31, 2009
2. Davey Richards vs. Roderick Strong

Speed of Sound - August 28, 2009
3. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) vs. The Dynasty International (Karl Anderson & Joey Ryan)

Guerre Sans Frontières - September 4, 2009
4. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Hero

Against the Grain - October 2, 2009
5. El Generico vs. Chris Hero

2009 Battle of Los Angeles - November 21, 2009
6. Kenny Omega vs. Roderick Strong

Kurt Russellreunion - January 30, 2010
7. Chris Hero vs. Roderick Strong vs. Rob Van Dam

Disc 3
As The Worm Turns - February 27, 2010
1. Kenny Omega vs. Davey Richards

Titannica - April 10, 2010
2. The Briscoe Brothers (Jay & Mark Briscoe) vs. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson)

Seven - July 30, 2010
Three-Way Guerrilla Warfare Match
3. ¡Peligro Abejas! (El Generico & Paul London) vs. The Cutler Brothers (Brandon & Dustin Cutler) vs. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson)

2010 Battle of Los Angeles - September 5, 2010
4. Chris Hero vs. Akira Tozawa

Cyanide: A Loving Tribute to Poison - December 11, 2010
5. "Mr. Wrestling" Kevin Steen vs. Akira Tozawa

DDT4 (2011) - November 1, 2008
6. American Wolves (Eddie Edwards & Davey Richards) vs. The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson)

All Star Weekend 8 - Night 1 - May 27, 2011
7. El Generico & Ricochet vs. Nightmare Violence Connection (Kevin Steen & Akira Tozawa)

I should be expecting it today or tomorrow. Vol.2 is sold out, but I'll keep my eyes open for it. I found Vol.1 a few years ago at a local used shop for $8.

[Judas Iscariot]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lezh6sSmKs1qetjf6o1_500.png

This is the first I've heard of this, wandering into this thread today, but this seems like the most amazing thing to ever happen in professional wrestling and I'm currently going to look up all things related to it.

[blackening]

I don't own any PWG DVDs right now but I found out about their 5 DVDs for $40 and I think I'm going to take advantage of it. Here is the link if anyone else is interested.

http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com/merch/winter_2013.html

[Mills]

which DVDs are you looking at? 5 for 40 is a good deal and Ive always wanted to watch PWG, but I have 0 idea on where to start

[Bert]

PWG Sells Out are the ones to get. They say Volumes 1 and 2 are sold out (and not apart of this deal) though. You can probably find them online if you know where to look.

[blackening]

which DVDs are you looking at? 5 for 40 is a good deal and Ive always wanted to watch PWG, but I have 0 idea on where to start

http://prowrestlingguerrilla.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2433

Here is a link to a "What DVDs should I get?" thread on the PWG message board. I'd check the last couple of pages out. I'm going to place my order tomorrow and Ill post what I bought.

[Beer-Belly]

I watched the Ten show drunk the other night and was thoroughly entertained. That's the only PWG show I've seen, but I'm sold. It's just fun wrestling without a hint of pretension and zero filler.

Adam Cole deserves a WWE contract. Sign that mother fucker and craft a Light Heavyweight or Cruiserweight division around him.

[DDT]

It's just fun wrestling without a hint of pretension and zero filler.


Pretty much why PWG is one of the only three independent promotions in the U.S. that legit rules.

[DDT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl0YdDVfLhQ

[Mills]

Good Lord that was amazing

[takerson]

Yeah I love PWG. Just started getting into it last year, but yeah. Just ordered their two most recent events on DVD a couple days ago, actually.

[Defrost]

https://twitter.com/OfficialPWG

Jack Evans makes his PWG return and Angélico makes his PWG debut at Threemendous IV on July 24th!

Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards make their return to PWG at Threemendous IV on July 24th!

Akira Tozawa makes his return to PWG at Threemendous IV on July 24th!

Will Ospreay is the first entrant in the 2015 Battle of Los Angeles!

Marty Scurll is the second entrant in the 2015 Battle of Los Angeles!

[Bad Collin]

Nice to see the top indie Brits getting booked in the states

[MikeHunt]

It really is. Was only a matter of time to be fair. I'm waiting for dar but hoping he makes his way to Japan.

[DDT]

Meh to Scrully, unless he does a bunch of comedy matches. Ospreay should give us a few fun flippies though.

[DDT]

MASSIVE PWG SPOILERS A-HOY!


So, at Mystery Vortex, this happened:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPyJlKEQn9E#t=254





Babyface Ricochet gave a heelish response:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCKKTipRra4



And Roderick Strong gave his eloquent thoughts on the subject.


https://twitter.com/roderickstrong/status/616213470569213952

[DDT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veFDz4ZxKIA&feature=youtu.be


What happens to Hero's finger is disgusting. Disgusting! You have been warned.

[DDT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FMzTexEJyY&feature=youtu.be

[DDT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FLGKZZ7s30&feature=youtu.be

[Defrost]

Every time I watch PWG I come away thinking how amazing it must be to be there live, and how that really doesn't translate to watching it on my computer.

[Tainted Eclipse]

agreed

[Beer-Belly]

I think it's pretty fun to watch on my PC. You guys are fuddy duds.

[DDT]

Night 1 of BOLA was a boring piece of shit and no one should waste their time on it. The best stuff was only 'passably' good.

Night 2 was actually a pretty great show; a lot of variety, and not a bad match. The main event, unfortunately, suffered with from the pre-match brawl, where Hero and Excalibur were on commentary talking about a spot that would involve them later on.

About to start Night 3.

[DDT]

Jack Evans' gimmick is basically being real-life Teddy Hart. It's kind of the best thing ever.

[Defrost]

Night 1 of BOLA was a boring piece of shit and no one should waste their time on it. The best stuff was only 'passably' good.


You really think so? I loved Sydal vs Fenix.

[DDT]

Eh; it was one of the better ones I'll admit, but I just felt that there was a LOT of miscommunication in that match, and that they were just wasting time in between high-spots. Not a problem if the match is on the shorter side. But it wasn't.

Honestly liked Pentagon vs. Drago more.

[Defrost]

I didn't feel like there was a lot of dead time in it. Although maybe my gauge is off since I appear to be the only one who thinks Suzuki vs Sugiura was super meandering.

[Defrost]

Night 1 of BOLA was a boring piece of shit and no one should waste their time on it. The best stuff was only 'passably' good.

Night 2 was actually a pretty great show; a lot of variety, and not a bad match. The main event, unfortunately, suffered with from the pre-match brawl, where Hero and Excalibur were on commentary talking about a spot that would involve them later on.

About to start Night 3.

I'm to the final match. The angle at the end of Night 2 really didn't lead to much on Night 3 did it? Jack Evans is the best thing about all of these show. I don't Mike Bailey at all.

[DDT]

Jack Evans was absolutely amazing from Night 2 onwards (that terrible dragging tag match with the Inner City Machine Guns notwithstanding). And yeah, that balls-tacular ending angle on Night 2 lead to nothing on Night 3.


Mike Bailey is weird to me; he's such a small pudgy pasty fuck that he makes a great underdog.

It's when he's used as something OTHER than an underdog and goes deep into a tournament that I have a problem with him.



What's your match of the tournament? I loved Pentagon vs. Saber, Hero vs. Thatcher, and Saber vs. Scurll.

[Defrost]

Mike Bailey is just a level of indie to deep for me.

Sabre vs Pentagon was the best tournament match for me. I really liked the AAA non tournament tag match. Well I guess considering the context it should be called a Lucha Underground tag match. The lucha guys in general, Jack Evans counts in that, were my favorite guys throughout BOLA.

[Tainted Eclipse]

i've watched everything but the triple threat final. first two days weren't any good. second round matches on the third day were awesome, each one was really good and unique. third round matches were alright, evans/hero was fun but scrull/saber was awful. started out cool but really went to hell and went way too fucking long.