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RFF Champ
August 19th, 2013, 9:25 AM
I don't think the captaincy helped Cabaye. He made some comments about not being able to speak English well and how he had to lead by example. Problem was that he was covering a lot for Tiote who had a poor season and in my opinion was in the wrong position given that Sissoko was playing more advanced.

The whole team was crap last year, Cabaye was our second highest scorer which is a poor barometer but it shows he was at least pulling his weight. We lost a lot more without him than we did with him.

El Capitano Gatisto
August 19th, 2013, 9:25 AM
It is a panic buy, no matter how good he is. If he's always been a serious target we should've been after him two months ago.

I would be happy enough with the signing but we need a centre back and a striker before the weekend really. I genuinely have no idea who will partner Mert next week. Maybe Giroud or Frimpong?

If it's a good player then who gives a fuck about whether he meets your "panic" criteria or not? The only teams this summer who got business done early were largely teams willing to pay well over the odds. If you want players in to improve the squad then why cry about when it happens too?

Cabaye has been talked about earlier in the summer by both Monaco and PSG and linked with Manchester United, so he may well have been interesting Arsenal for a long time but they were waiting to see what happened with those clubs. If PSG or Monaco want a player, they're going to out-bid everyone, as happened with Cavani and Falcao, to name two. People go on about getting business done early, but actually clubs are more likely to wait to see what Real Madrid, Chelsea, Man City, Monaco and PSG do before going in for targets because they will pay way more than anyone else.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 9:26 AM
Especially now they've come in late it just seems bizarre, plus it's a huge slap in the face to Everton and the fans he 'loved'

El Capitano Gatisto
August 19th, 2013, 9:29 AM
On Fellaini, the bid from United is bizarre to say the least unless they think Fellaini will push for a move himself now. However, I do think Moyes wanted to wait to get another big signing in first because he knew that a large part of the media and United supporters would get stuck into him for signing an Everton player first. It would be a great signing and last August people were talking of 30 million for Fellaini to Chelsea or United, but for some reason when it comes to Moyes wanting him, he's considered not good enough or a flashy enough name. He'd pretty much be a perfect signing for United, Arsenal, maybe even Chelsea, but people will criticise Moyes for making that signing just because he's not a big name.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 9:30 AM
I don't think the captaincy helped Cabaye. He made some comments about not being able to speak English well and how he had to lead by example. Problem was that he was covering a lot for Tiote who had a poor season and in my opinion was in the wrong position given that Sissoko was playing more advanced.

The whole team was crap last year, Cabaye was our second highest scorer which is a poor barometer but it shows he was at least pulling his weight. We lost a lot more without him than we did with him.

His English is pretty good by all accounts, he's a very good player when allowed to play his game, I was looking forward to the trio of Cabaye, Anita and Sissoko this season because they'd all compliment each other, if he goes though we'll have the money to replace him and we've been linked with a couple in the last few days.

RFF Champ
August 19th, 2013, 9:31 AM
With Sissoko, Tiote and Anita would they replace him or would it be worth using the cash on another striker?

Andy
August 19th, 2013, 9:32 AM
Sky saying the bid is 10m, rejected obviously.

RFF Champ
August 19th, 2013, 9:34 AM
But probably enough for him to pick up an injury before tonight.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 9:37 AM
Jefferson Montero an attacking mid/winger from Equador who looks useful at around 3m and Florian Thauvin from Lille at 8m.

We've tracked Thauvin for a while (offered 5m for him last summer) and we contacted Lille yesterday about a price according to rumors and Arsenal are interested as well

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 9:39 AM
With Sissoko, Tiote and Anita would they replace him or would it be worth using the cash on another striker?

I'd assume Thauvin would be a replacement.


Sky saying the bid is 10m, rejected obviously.

12m, rejected.

Gary J
August 19th, 2013, 9:54 AM
I've thought Cabaye would be worth at least 20m so not surprised the 12m bid has been rejected.

Gary J
August 19th, 2013, 9:56 AM
With the Anzhi firesale going on i'm surprised someone hasn't gone in for Lassana Diarra.

I was also shocked to see reports that Christian Eriksen was available for 8m if that's true I can't believe no-one has gone in for him.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 9:59 AM
We've made a few comments about his value this summer with the French sides sniffing around, 25m is sort of regarded as the figure Ashley would consider to much to turn down, Pards has said he is too important to lose without it being a 'ridiculous' offer.

25m would let us get the two players we're tracking plus increase the Gomis offer to 9m and stop them messing around, plus leave enough to give Ashley a weekend in the casino and buy a new centre half as well.

Gary J
August 19th, 2013, 10:05 AM
You might be signing Morgan Amalfitano we've apparently agreed a fee with Marseille but he wants to link up with his younger brother at Newcastle.

Mik
August 19th, 2013, 10:10 AM
Newcastle arent going to spend money they get for Cabaye, its going to go straight back into Ashley's pockets. I reckon about 15m will be enough to get him too.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 10:11 AM
You might be signing Morgan Amalfitano we've apparently agreed a fee with Marseille but he wants to link up with his younger brother at Newcastle.

Wouldn't mind that, shame the younger one hasn't been anywhere near as good as he looked like he might have been.

RFF Champ
August 19th, 2013, 10:14 AM
I think 18mil will get him when you take into account that he cost less than 5mil. There's no way that money would sign two players. Like I said before, the squad doesn't have to contend with Europe this year so won't need the numbers it required last year and Ashley knows it.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 10:18 AM
We could still do with a striker (and the bid is still on the table for Gomis) and we'd want a replacement for him and I think we'll probably get another young one in before the end.

Honestly I'd be happy either way if we re-invest it well.

Gary J
August 19th, 2013, 10:28 AM
The fee we agreed for Morgan Amalfitano is 1.6m so i'd have thought Ashley wouldn't mind paying that especially if you get 18-25m for Cabaye.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 10:58 AM
Aye, he'll probably be our deadline day signing

The Rosk
August 19th, 2013, 12:40 PM
25million for Cabaye when you could get Tony Moon for 1.5m is hilarious. 100% scoring record - see you later.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 12:47 PM
25m for Cabaye is nuts money mate, but to be fair the price of players has gone crazy.

Rip
August 19th, 2013, 2:10 PM
Cabaye NOT one of the NUFC players inspecting the pitch...

And press source saying he isn't playing.

Alf
August 20th, 2013, 7:52 AM
So looks like we might be gazumping Liverpool for Willian AND still in the running for Lamela. What a mental window.

Lagom
August 20th, 2013, 9:29 AM
Can you not just fuck off and sign Damiao already?

SheltonLondon
August 20th, 2013, 9:40 AM
So looks like we might be gazumping Liverpool for Willian AND still in the running for Lamela. What a mental window.

Lot of talk about Coentrao as well today, although some journos now reporting Roma officials are in London to discuss Marco Borriello to West Ham. Could be there for a couple deals I suppose.

Spurs look like being my new team on Fifa!

Alf
August 20th, 2013, 9:40 AM
We'll get there. They are just working through my Footyman shortlist at the mo.

Lagom
August 20th, 2013, 9:48 AM
If you get Willian, can we have Holtby/Sigurdsson?

Alf
August 20th, 2013, 9:57 AM
If you get Willian, can we have Holtby/Sigurdsson?

No.

Bad Collin
August 20th, 2013, 10:34 AM
We don't need Willan, our money would be better spent on someone to finish off the chances we make.

Alf
August 20th, 2013, 11:15 AM
I'll sell you Defoe.

Bad Collin
August 20th, 2013, 12:53 PM
I think you probably missed the important part of that sentence

Alf
August 20th, 2013, 5:38 PM
I was hoping you wouldn't notice. I'd best go tell Defoe to unpack his bags then... he won't be happy mate.

Bad Collin
August 20th, 2013, 6:32 PM
Can we take Adebaps on loan instead? He is beastly when there is no permanent deal in place.

Bad Collin
August 21st, 2013, 4:25 AM
"It is not always to think what is outside is better than what you have,"

Nice. I fancy us having chance a to beat them to fifth this season if they don't buy anyone. Spurs surely nailed on for at least fourth this year.

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 5:06 AM
Will Hughes on his way to Liverpool for 6m bargain at that price if true.

Lagom
August 21st, 2013, 5:11 AM
Saw that, I hope he isn't another Shelvey. I still think Shelvey will be a fantastic player, but playing next to Gerrard he was always awful. When he was leading the midfield, I was much more confident, he should do well at Swansea.

son_of_foley
August 21st, 2013, 5:42 AM
Will Hughes on his way to Liverpool for 6m bargain at that price if true.

Would be very dissapointed if true.

Completely different player to Shelvey as well on all levels. He has hair for starts.

Bad Collin
August 21st, 2013, 6:17 AM
What are his best attributes SoF?

Apaz Schalke have given up on keeping Papadopalous. We will probably get gazumped by a CL club in that one too though :(

son_of_foley
August 21st, 2013, 6:37 AM
What are his best attributes SoF?

Apaz Schalke have given up on keeping Papadopalous. We will probably get gazumped by a CL club in that one too though :(

Touch, Vision, dictating pace. Technique to the fucking hilt. If he could add a few goals to his game he would be DYNAMITE

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 6:45 AM
So if Spurs get Willian that will take their spending to over 100m right? Where the hell is that money comin from if Bale is supposedly unlikely to leave? Has anyone ever spent 100m in one window before? Madness.

Bad Collin
August 21st, 2013, 6:46 AM
I imagine that 6 is only the initial fee and there will be loads of add ons

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 6:59 AM
So if Spurs get Willian that will take their spending to over 100m right? Where the hell is that money comin from if Bale is supposedly unlikely to leave? Has anyone ever spent 100m in one window before? Madness.

Real Madrid spent over that when they bought Ronaldo and Benzema in the same window. Monaco and PSG have probably spent over that this summer too.

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 7:01 AM
My mistake PSG have only spent 97m this summer Monaco have spent 128m though.

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 7:09 AM
I was meaning in this country really, but even still it can't have ever been done more than three of four times.

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 7:30 AM
Man City won't be that far off will they?

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 7:32 AM
About 80m I think?

MikeHunt
August 21st, 2013, 7:34 AM
Including this have spurs not only spent 85 approx?

MikeHunt
August 21st, 2013, 7:35 AM
Only lol!

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 7:35 AM
Yeah this is all based on them signing Willian but that is supposedly about to happen. Oh and that Lamela who is apparently going too and taking it well over 100m.

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 7:36 AM
A quick check says 96m

35M Fernandinho , 22M Jovetic , 22M Negredo and 17m on Navas

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 7:53 AM
Chelsea spent over 100m last season i know it's not just in one window but still.

Peter Griffin
August 21st, 2013, 8:16 AM
Will Hughes on his way to Liverpool for 6m bargain at that price if true.

Im done with football. As if the price wasnt bad enough..Liverpool ffs.

Bennedy
August 21st, 2013, 8:23 AM
Chelsea spent over 100m last season i know it's not just in one window but still.

Did we? We bought Oscar and Hazard which came to just over 50m. Then whatever Ba, Moses and Azpilicueta came to.

Am I forgetting another big signing?

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 8:36 AM
Hazard 35m
Oscar 28m
Moses 10m
Azpilicueta 7.8m,
Ba 7.5m ,
Marin 7m
Wallace 4.7m
Thorgen Hazard 900k

Peter Griffin
August 21st, 2013, 8:48 AM
Derby County
@dcfcofficial
NC: "There's obviously speculation about Will Hughes flying around, but we've had no bids or contact from anyone. Nothing has changed"

Who knows what is happening, Where did you read/hear the latest rumour Gary?

Bennedy
August 21st, 2013, 8:50 AM
They price for Oscar is nowhere near right.

I forgot all about Marin. What a waste of money he was.

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 8:52 AM
Just saw it on twitter then just checked it out online and found reports of it everywhere.

Peter Griffin
August 21st, 2013, 8:53 AM
If he had any sense he would stay for at least this season instead of being a bit part player at a premier league side.

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 9:00 AM
They price for Oscar is nowhere near right.

I forgot all about Marin. What a waste of money he was.

Quick google search and most sites say he cost 25m.

Agree about Marin being a waste couldn't even get a game when the fixtures were piling up.

Darkoke
August 21st, 2013, 9:11 AM
A quick check says 96m

35M Fernandinho , 22M Jovetic , 22M Negredo and 17m on Navas

I'd hope that would go up over 100m because Kompany's injury has shown how much they need a centre half.

Alf
August 21st, 2013, 11:04 AM
Yeah, our spending has been mental. No idea where the dosh is coming from. The rumour is Joe Lewis is bankrolling it because we failed to get decent sponsors because of the lack of CL, we've not been able to get sponsors for the stadium, and so it's a case of speculate to accumulate. I bloody love it. It's like that year Chelsea got bought by Abramovich and started buying everyone, except we've bought a fuck ton of mega-power midfielders instead of Damien Duff and Kezman (i think that was the season after, but meh).

What with us shifting dead wood it's been quite the comprehensive upgrade session.

Slare
August 21st, 2013, 11:09 AM
Guardian indicating that Bale deal is all but done. Started off as 93mill + contraeo but his personal terms have fallen through ant it's just a straight up 109m for Bale. Mental.

turdpower
August 21st, 2013, 11:52 AM
Yeah, our spending has been mental. No idea where the dosh is coming from. The rumour is Joe Lewis is bankrolling it because we failed to get decent sponsors because of the lack of CL, we've not been able to get sponsors for the stadium, and so it's a case of speculate to accumulate. I bloody love it. It's like that year Chelsea got bought by Abramovich and started buying everyone, except we've bought a fuck ton of mega-power midfielders instead of Damien Duff and Kezman (i think that was the season after, but meh).

What with us shifting dead wood it's been quite the comprehensive upgrade session.

Gareth Bale?

Darkoke
August 21st, 2013, 11:53 AM
Norwich have signed another striker - Elmander on loan from Galatasaray

son_of_foley
August 21st, 2013, 12:04 PM
more like real MADrid amirite? or Real Crazydrid.

Just use one of those ok

Alf
August 21st, 2013, 12:05 PM
Gareth Bale?

Yeah, that's the assumption. BUT, that seems a bit of an odd and reckless strategy That would imply the deal is already signed and sealed, otherwise I can't imagine someone like Levy taking the gamble. Real would have us over a barrel. We must be spending under the assumption that we will sell Bale, but with the understanding that if we don't then no biggie (well, we'd obviously have to seriously perform over the season for it to be worth it).

turdpower
August 21st, 2013, 12:10 PM
If that is true, you could look at bringing yet more players in after Bale has gone.

Peter Griffin
August 21st, 2013, 12:19 PM
Ans maybe give us some of that money you still owe us from the Huddlestone and Razsiak deals ;)

The Rosk
August 21st, 2013, 12:22 PM
Spurs are the flukiest cunts in the world. I can't believe they are getting a club-changing amount of money for one overrated cunt who hits it hard from a mile out every now and then. Jesus Christ almighty.

TraXX
August 21st, 2013, 12:25 PM
Norwich have signed another striker - Elmander on loan from Galatasaray

Considering we've either released or sold 4 strikers, I'd say the acquisition of 3 to replace them is good business.

Elmander will bring Premier League experience to our strikeforce without breaking the bank. He'll be third in line, and used prodominantly as a back up. A loan deal is better than buying him due to his age.

Just need another top class center back (c'mon Alderweireld, listen yo your dad!) and we'll be sorted.

Peter Griffin
August 21st, 2013, 12:26 PM
Yeh cheers for Chris Martin Traxx :D

TraXX
August 21st, 2013, 12:29 PM
Just remember; he's all yellow! ;)

Peter Griffin
August 21st, 2013, 12:33 PM
Hes black and white now boyo.

RFF Champ
August 21st, 2013, 12:33 PM
Turned into a terrible move for Becchio.

Alf
August 21st, 2013, 12:35 PM
Spurs are the flukiest cunts in the world. I can't believe they are getting a club-changing amount of money for one overrated cunt who hits it hard from a mile out every now and then. Jesus Christ almighty.

Wayhey the lads.

We're gonna win the league lads!

Gary J
August 21st, 2013, 1:40 PM
If that is true, you could look at bringing yet more players in after Bale has gone.

They could do but once they sell Bale clubs are going to put the price up knowing they've just got a load of money. Spurs have done the right thing in spending the money first.

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 7:18 PM
From what you Spurs fans tell us it would seem very un-Levyish to take that sort of gamble. What if Bale falls down the stairs tomorrow and slices his leg off? Big gamble unless you are in fact being bankrolled.

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 7:18 PM
Spurs are the flukiest cunts in the world. I can't believe they are getting a club-changing amount of money for one overrated cunt who hits it hard from a mile out every now and then. Jesus Christ almighty.

You'll probably get 40m for Benteke next summer.

Slare
August 21st, 2013, 7:51 PM
Bale done by the looks of things

El Capitano Gatisto
August 21st, 2013, 7:51 PM
Wenger may have his big swingers out finally:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23790314

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 8:01 PM
Real surely aren't going to sell both their strikers in one transfer window. :dunno:

Plus that was my reaction when it looked like we were on the verge of signing Higuain and bidding for Lars Bender. Not getting my hopes up.

Fanny Batter
August 21st, 2013, 8:12 PM
They definitely need to offload a couple of midfielders so di Maria is definitely possible. The Bale deal getting done may lead to a bit of a fire sale, they'll need to level their books. Spurs have made some great replacements in advance, Arsenal need to strengthen because even without Bale Spurs look the stronger squad now. Amazing that he couldn't get in Pascal Chimbonda's team a few years back.

Arsenal and United will likely end up breaking their transfer records and players not really befitting. I don't know how they've managed to get trumped on so many transfers this summer.

El Capitano Gatisto
August 21st, 2013, 8:14 PM
They have Morata and the only place it looks likely that Ronaldo can play if Bale comes in is as a striker. Real looked awkward trying to fit Ronaldo, Isco and Ozil together on Sunday, where Bale comes into that is anyone's guess. Also the crowd seemed to be getting on Benzema's back a bit. There seems to have been a few stories going around about Madrid's players so they must be trying to get rid of a couple of them at least.

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 8:16 PM
I can see them offloading a few players but aren't Benzema and Morata their only strikers? Just give us Khedira, Di Maria and Ramos for 100m. Might as well chuck in Iker Casillas too since he's out of favour.

Andy
August 21st, 2013, 8:18 PM
Alonso, Khedira

Ozil/Isco

Bale Benzema Ronaldo

Would be a bit ridiculous.

RuneEdge
August 21st, 2013, 9:09 PM
Guillem Balague's saying the Bale deal is sorted, and will be announced tomorrow evening or Friday at the latest. Madrid play some team from Qatar tomorrow that Raul plays for, in a friendly tournament final where they'll be treating it as some kind of testimonial (Raul will play a half for each team). Apparently they don't want the Bale transfer overshadowing it, so they'll postpone the announcement till after the game.

From what I'm reading, it was initially 90m (euros) + Coentrao but the left back didnt fancy the move, so Madrid have up'd the bid to around 100m-105m.

turdpower
August 22nd, 2013, 2:11 AM
Instead of Baines, can we bid 10m euros for Coentrao then?

Gary J
August 22nd, 2013, 5:02 AM
I doubt Benzema will be allowed to leave. Even if they want to raise the cash they are spending on Bale they are more likely to raise that money by offloading Modric , Kaka , Di Maria , Coentrao , Nuri Sahin was only sent on loan to Dortmund as well they'll probably sell him back plus they still have the Higuain money.

Saying all that it wouldn't surprise me if they sold all those players and then spent it all straight away on Suarez and ended up selling Benzema to Arsenal.

Gary J
August 22nd, 2013, 5:03 AM
Also before Turdy posts it Real Madrid can just get the Bale money back by letting Ronaldo go back to Man Utd.

turdpower
August 22nd, 2013, 5:25 AM
:D

thegoat
August 22nd, 2013, 6:15 AM
Xabi Alonso is out for a few months so I wouldnt be expecting Madrid to offload too many central midfielders. And isn't Nuri Sahin on loan at Dortmund this year too? If they did need cash to balance the books I'd say Di Maria/Benzema might be the best place for them to find it.

Andy
August 22nd, 2013, 6:54 AM
Di Maria makes sense but I just can't see the sense in selling Benzema unless they're planning on buying Suarez.

Peter Griffin
August 22nd, 2013, 9:50 AM
This talk of Hughes is fucking me off. I know its the way of football these days but nobody has made an official bid yet and the window is nearly up so if one of the big teams do buy he we will have fuck all time to replace him. Teams scouted him end of last season, Why wait till now to bid? Cunts.

Peter Griffin
August 22nd, 2013, 9:52 AM
Also Dean Parret is training with Derby, Dont suppose the Spurs lads know much about him?

Gary J
August 22nd, 2013, 10:14 AM
This talk of Hughes is fucking me off. I know its the way of football these days but nobody has made an official bid yet and the window is nearly up so if one of the big teams do buy he we will have fuck all time to replace him. Teams scouted him end of last season, Why wait till now to bid? Cunts.

Man Utd will sign him and Moyes will get crucified for not bringing in a big name/being ambitious enough.

Beefy
August 22nd, 2013, 10:16 AM
I don't understand why clubs do their business at this point of the window. Wenger was saying last night that the window starts now, which seems a ridiculous attitude to have. I think it was Simon who made this point recently but it's entirely right that there are three games and nine points to play for in the Premier League before the window shuts where a single point could mean so much at the end of the year and yet clubs do business now.

If you're buying then surely you want to have your squad assembled during pre-season and if you're selling then surely you want to have time to bring in replacements? Doing business now is massive mismanagement.

son_of_foley
August 22nd, 2013, 10:26 AM
I don't understand why clubs do their business at this point of the window. Wenger was saying last night that the window starts now, which seems a ridiculous attitude to have. I think it was Simon who made this point recently but it's entirely right that there are three games and nine points to play for in the Premier League before the window shuts where a single point could mean so much at the end of the year and yet clubs do business now.

If you're buying then surely you want to have your squad assembled during pre-season and if you're selling then surely you want to have time to bring in replacements? Doing business now is massive mismanagement.

Indication was surely that the desired deals are more straightforward now arsenal are all bit guaranteed the cl group spot and money from that

Gary J
August 22nd, 2013, 10:33 AM
I hope Will Hughes stays at Derby just so he can destroy Leeds on his own like he did last season.

Peter Griffin
August 22nd, 2013, 10:38 AM
I hope Will Hughes stays at Derby just so he can destroy Leeds on his own like he did last season.

Ahhh memories :D

Andy
August 22nd, 2013, 10:51 AM
Indication was surely that the desired deals are more straightforward now arsenal are all bit guaranteed the cl group spot and money from that

Previously that would've been a decent explanation, but as shown earlier in the summer we have a lot of money regardless of CL involvement and Higuain wanted to come, seems like Suarez wanted to come. We've just made an enormous mess of the transfer window.

El Capitano Gatisto
August 22nd, 2013, 11:58 AM
I preferred the good old days when English teams could buy right up until March. The rest of Europe should have fallen into line with that rather than the other way about.

Red Dog
August 22nd, 2013, 1:01 PM
This talk of Hughes is fucking me off. I know its the way of football these days but nobody has made an official bid yet and the window is nearly up so if one of the big teams do buy he we will have fuck all time to replace him. Teams scouted him end of last season, Why wait till now to bid? Cunts.

Take the money and run before they realise he is a bit 'special'.

Canuck
August 22nd, 2013, 1:42 PM
I don't understand why clubs do their business at this point of the window. Wenger was saying last night that the window starts now, which seems a ridiculous attitude to have. I think it was Simon who made this point recently but it's entirely right that there are three games and nine points to play for in the Premier League before the window shuts where a single point could mean so much at the end of the year and yet clubs do business now.

If you're buying then surely you want to have your squad assembled during pre-season and if you're selling then surely you want to have time to bring in replacements? Doing business now is massive mismanagement.

Yeah, this is what makes sense to me. The only way I can see it being better this way is what SOF said, or if the managers are having a look at their players in action to see where they really need to improve on. That should be clear from the previous season, so it's a bit odd. The moment free agency opens in american sports, it's a mad scramble to get the players you want as soon as possible.

RuneEdge
August 22nd, 2013, 2:44 PM
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El Capitano Gatisto
August 22nd, 2013, 2:49 PM
Sky Sports saying Chelsea are in for Willian. Possibly the most pointless signing ever unless Mourinho really doesn't fancy Mata.

RuneEdge
August 22nd, 2013, 2:58 PM
Or maybe they've given up on Rooney. Assuming they werent planning on using him as the lone striker.

I was sort of picturing a team where you had Lukaku up front, and Mata, Rooney and Hazard in behind him.

turdpower
August 22nd, 2013, 3:01 PM
Of course they haven't. It's stupid to think teams bid for one player at a time.

RFF Champ
August 22nd, 2013, 3:03 PM
Chelsea won't win shit if they don't sign another striker.

Bennedy
August 22nd, 2013, 3:07 PM
Chelsea won't win shit if they don't sign another striker.

We have missed out on all the good ones that were available.

We will get another striker in before the window closes, but I don't think it will be Rooney.

Peter Griffin
August 22nd, 2013, 3:56 PM
Take the money and run before they realise he is a bit 'special'.

Dont be Jel that we have a player worth any money.

Red Dog
August 23rd, 2013, 3:56 AM
Yes, we don't have any of them of course..

son_of_foley
August 23rd, 2013, 4:47 AM
Will's actually a very well spoken and bright guy. More so than 90% of other young footballers. Seems like he's got his head screwed on right.

Peter Griffin
August 23rd, 2013, 5:09 AM
Will's actually a very well spoken and bright guy. More so than 90% of other young footballers. Seems like he's got his head screwed on right.

Exactly, If I remember correctly he insisted on finishing his education when he broke into the team rather than just rely on football. So Red Dog, If you wanna talk drivel so will I :)

Lagom
August 23rd, 2013, 5:26 AM
Stupid is as stupid does... :dunno:

RFF Champ
August 23rd, 2013, 6:07 AM
Exactly, If I remember correctly he insisted on finishing his education when he broke into the team rather than just rely on football. So Red Dog, If you wanna talk drivel so will I :)

Seemed from his interview on FLS that he didn't do particularly well.

Red Dog
August 23rd, 2013, 7:43 AM
Exactly, If I remember correctly he insisted on finishing his education when he broke into the team rather than just rely on football. So Red Dog, If you wanna talk drivel so will I :)

He does look special though http://i.smimg.net/12/35/WillHughes_20120808.jpg (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=LuAlBsVBfBuzvM&tbnid=51655h0qFo9UHM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsmole.co.uk%2Ffootball%2 Fderby-county%2Ftransfer-talk%2Fnews%2Freport-newcastle-prepare-hughes-bid_87007.html&ei=wEoXUqqaDoGY1AXttIHIAg&bvm=bv.51156542,d.ZGU&psig=AFQjCNH5TzMxxDOGq9pwdaWwSwab2YvPXw&ust=1377344562850938)

Ringo
August 23rd, 2013, 8:55 AM
Or maybe they've given up on Rooney. Assuming they werent planning on using him as the lone striker.

I was sort of picturing a team where you had Lukaku up front, and Mata, Rooney and Hazard in behind him.

I'm sure we were planning on using him as the lone striker. That is the position we're not up to scratch at. We have 6 really good options for the 3 behind the striker. And as good as Willian may be, it does strike me as both unnecessary and potentially disruptive. Annoying.

Andy
August 23rd, 2013, 8:57 AM
Is Lukaku gonna go out on loan again Ringo? I thought he'd at least be ahead of Ba but he hasn't had a start and Chelsea are still looking for a new striker? I thought Mourinho would love him.

Peter Griffin
August 23rd, 2013, 8:57 AM
Stupid is as stupid does... :dunno:
:dunce:

Ringo
August 23rd, 2013, 9:01 AM
Is Lukaku gonna go out on loan again Ringo? I thought he'd at least be ahead of Ba but he hasn't had a start and Chelsea are still looking for a new striker? I thought Mourinho would love him.

Nah, I doubt it. But Ba starting ahead of him against Villa was most odd. Lukaku had a good preseason and he's quite clearly superior to Ba right now (if not Torres too). I'm confident he'll get his chance soon. He almost helped create a goal with his first touch once he came on. If we sign another striker I would still expect Ba to be the one to move on (permanently or loan). If we stick with what we've got I wouldn't have thought it'll be too long before Lukaku is starting ahead of both Ba and Torres tbh.

Peter Griffin
August 23rd, 2013, 9:01 AM
He does look special though http://i.smimg.net/12/35/WillHughes_20120808.jpg (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=LuAlBsVBfBuzvM&tbnid=51655h0qFo9UHM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsmole.co.uk%2Ffootball%2 Fderby-county%2Ftransfer-talk%2Fnews%2Freport-newcastle-prepare-hughes-bid_87007.html&ei=wEoXUqqaDoGY1AXttIHIAg&bvm=bv.51156542,d.ZGU&psig=AFQjCNH5TzMxxDOGq9pwdaWwSwab2YvPXw&ust=1377344562850938)
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4913778722145527&pid=15.1
If anyone who has played for us recently looks special its this guy.

Alf
August 23rd, 2013, 10:07 AM
So looks like Willian is going to chelsea.

The spurs forums are in meltdown now, everyone shitting themselves that with Bale almost definitely going that. Meh, I'm not bothered.

El Capitano Gatisto
August 23rd, 2013, 10:15 AM
Chelsea don't even need him, that's the odd part about it. But Lamela will be a great signing if that comes off. Lamela and Willian would have been very interesting but one or the other is still good work. It adds a bit more guile to the Spurs attack, some creativity that is perhaps missing right now.

Ringo
August 23rd, 2013, 11:59 AM
Mad stuff. Not sure who thinks this is worthwhile. However, it is fun to upset Spurs at the last minute.

Presumably either Mata or Moses is leaving. The former would be heartbreaking, particularly if it's a swap with Rooney. The latter not so much but I like Moses as a squad option who doesn't necessarily expect to play all the time. Scored a few important goals for us last season and offered something different from the bench.

El Capitano Gatisto
August 23rd, 2013, 12:08 PM
No way they would let Mata go to United. Imagine his passes over the top to Van Persie. United have a few players who can pull those passes off a few times a season, Mata does it every game.

Ringo
August 23rd, 2013, 12:28 PM
Would be ridiculously stupid and I haven't believed any of the "Mourinho doesn't rate Mata" talk (agent looking for better terms after two great seasons I imagine) but a small part of me is worried. Moses leaving is most likely I suppose - but he's the only one I could see accepting his squad player status. We do expect to play a lot of games but remains to be seen if those six (Mata/Hazard/Oscar/KDB/Schurrle/Willian) will all play enough to keep them happy.

turdpower
August 23rd, 2013, 12:52 PM
So looks like Willian is going to chelsea.

The spurs forums are in meltdown now, everyone shitting themselves that with Bale almost definitely going that. Meh, I'm not bothered.

The Willian one is a bit annoying, but surely my surprising that a bigger CL playing team came in for him?

And did any Spurs fan really think you'd keep Bale?

El Capitano Gatisto
August 23rd, 2013, 12:55 PM
Simon's ITK source said Bale didn't even want to leave and was probably going to sign a new contract. So at least one did.

turdpower
August 23rd, 2013, 12:59 PM
He rejecte that contract because it didn't include Spanish lessons.

Mik
August 23rd, 2013, 1:12 PM
Can Jose not start playing fucking Lukaku and Mata, he's ruining my fantasy team.

Alf
August 23rd, 2013, 3:32 PM
The Willian one is a bit annoying, but surely my surprising that a bigger CL playing team came in for him?

And did any Spurs fan really think you'd keep Bale?

Nah, no one expects us to keep Bale. Most can see that getting anywhere near the money quoted would be ridiculous.

StevieV
August 23rd, 2013, 6:08 PM
I think most spurs fans expected to keep him another season until the talk of a world record bid emerged.

Chris Scott
August 23rd, 2013, 6:16 PM
About Lukaku, I've always said we should just offer Chelsea 25m which I think they would accept and then I think we would convince him to join us. I really rate him and when he stars playing every week will destroy teams.

Ringo
August 23rd, 2013, 6:21 PM
Don't see us accepting an offer like that. Why? Yes, he's not our main man yet, but he's fully expected to be in the future by just about everyone.

Chris Scott
August 24th, 2013, 8:00 AM
He said in an interview in pre season he wants to be playing most games every week and if he's still on your bench not starting games I think he might want to leave in January.

turdpower
August 26th, 2013, 6:03 AM
So who's the other team in for Bale?

Alf
August 26th, 2013, 6:05 AM
Bayern, Man U, and Barca appaz

El Capitano Gatisto
August 26th, 2013, 6:07 AM
Someone has made that up. No way Barca have the cash or space in their team for Bale. He's the antithesis of what they do. Bayern too have done their business and don't need Bale.

I doubt United have the cash either but maybe Spurs are trying to squeeze Madrid to finish the deal off quickly.

Alf
August 26th, 2013, 6:16 AM
I think spurs have made it up

turdpower
August 26th, 2013, 6:25 AM
We don't have the cash, no change out f the Ronaldo deal.

thegoat
August 26th, 2013, 8:37 AM
He said in an interview in pre season he wants to be playing most games every week and if he's still on your bench not starting games I think he might want to leave in January.

Even if he did get fucked off he realistically isn't going to end up dropping to a non-Champions League club given so many people see potential in him.

Chris Scott
August 26th, 2013, 2:35 PM
Surprise, Suprise he's on the bench again.

Simon
August 27th, 2013, 6:09 AM
I think spurs have made it up

Definitely :D the media war between us and Madrid has been mental. Both sides leaking absolute shite to the papers every single day.

Simon
August 27th, 2013, 6:13 AM
Oh and uh...Gareth...come on mate.

http://i.imgur.com/pzLCT7g.jpg

Simon
August 27th, 2013, 11:05 AM
Speaking of androgynous jaw-hoggers, Erik Lamela has arrived in London ahead of his proposed move seemingly.

http://romanews.eu/upload/assets/files/1215,-1,117098/134786-3.jpg

Anyone know much about him? Never seen him play.

RuneEdge
August 27th, 2013, 12:06 PM
Seen him play a couple of times and looks as good as anyone at his age. He's not going to win matches like Bale does, but IMO he looks like he could potentially become the better player. A few years younger than Bale too, I think.

thetony
August 27th, 2013, 2:32 PM
First live match attended was Roma vs Toronto FC this summer. Not too informed on the guy or anything but Lamela was posted on the right wing the same as Bale. Maybe a little more so to the sidelines than Bale was when playing with us.

One similarity I am noticing between the two is the same hallowed, high cheek bone facial structure. If that has anything to do with anything.

Chris Scott
August 27th, 2013, 2:36 PM
Even if he did get fucked off he realistically isn't going to end up dropping to a non-Champions League club given so many people see potential in him.

Yeah but why join another champions league club where more than likely he still won't play most games. If he goes to a potential champion league team like us he'd easy play every game.

Bad Collin
August 27th, 2013, 3:02 PM
We are not a potential champions league club until we run close to fourth

RFF Champ
August 27th, 2013, 5:58 PM
With that squad you ought to be challenging for CL qualification.

Bad Collin
August 27th, 2013, 6:04 PM
Honestly? You think our squad is as good as Arsenal and Tottenhams?

I think we are an excellent centre back, an attacking midfielder and a clinical finisher away from being in that conversation.

Chris Scott
August 27th, 2013, 7:37 PM
We have mate in Toure, Coutinho and Sturridge

Bad Collin
August 27th, 2013, 7:47 PM
Toure is injured, that looked like a nasty muscle thing tonight.

Coutinho is great but we need someone else, someone who will get goals. Mkhitaryan would have been perfect :(

Danny boy is also great and if Suarez comes back firing we will be fine but I still think he will go before the end of the window.

Chris Scott
August 28th, 2013, 2:18 AM
Yeah gutted for Toure.

Ringo
August 28th, 2013, 4:21 AM
According to Sky Sources we are now signing Atsu from Porto as well. Complete madness of course but apparently he would be going back on loan for a couple of years.

And still no striker.

Bad Collin
August 28th, 2013, 4:22 AM
Yeah gutted for Toure.

Gutted for us on Sunday too. Agger and Wisdom v RvP and Rooney? It is not looking good.

We are going to have to pay over the odds for a CB before the end of the window now.

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 4:28 AM
It's a bit of a weird one at the moment, with loads of teams seemingly intent on signing as many attacking mids as possible. Fulham's first choice starting line up has three number 10s (Berbatov/Taarabt/Ruiz), Chelsea have seven in their squad (Mata/Hazard/Oscar/Willian/De Bruyne/Schurrle/Moses), we have five not including Bale (Chadli/Lennon/Townsend/Sigurdsson/Holtby), with at least one and possibly two more to come...I think Liverpool have a fair few as well.

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 8:17 AM
AVB has just confirmed the Bale deal is very close. Lamela too.

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 8:27 AM
And that Bale refused to train. Dear-oh-dear.

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 8:29 AM
Are you sure you know what a No.10 is, Si?

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 8:30 AM
James Horncastle, who tends to know about all things Serie A, reckons Lamela has the potential to be "at least as good as Bale, if not better". Audere est facere Alf :D

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 8:31 AM
Are you sure you know what a No.10 is, Si?

Berbatov, Ruiz and Taarabt all ideally play in the space behind a front man. Is Berbatov just as good as a number 9? Yes. Can Ruiz play on either wing? Yes. Will Taarabt play wherever he likes regardless of what he's told to do? Yes. But they are all at their best just off a main striker.

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 8:33 AM
I was talking more about the other team comparisons.

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 8:48 AM
AVB confirmed we are in for Erikson, Lamela, and Chirces (however the fuck you spell it)

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 9:30 AM
I was talking more about the other team comparisons.

With the other teams I was just talking about attacking mids in general, the number 10s was specific to Fulham.

Ringo
August 28th, 2013, 9:49 AM
Lloris

Walker - Chiriches - Vertonghen - Rose

Capoue - Paulinho

Lamela - Eriksen - Chadli

Soldado

potentially revolting.

Willian completed.

also this lot need to play in the same team at some point:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Willian_Anzhi.jpg/230px-Willian_Anzhi.jpg

http://garsoornews.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/luiz_2179966b.jpg

http://eurorivals.net/images/playerthumbs/nathan-ake_chelsea-5.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/23/article-2400904-1B6D4182000005DC-159_306x423.jpg

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/hbOAEnUUo8yP6NUHIpDKNA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Y2g9MzYwO2NyPTE7Y3c9NjQwO2R4PTA7ZH k9MDtmaT11bGNyb3A7aD0zNTU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_GB/Sports/Eurosport/1024263-16531322-640-360.jpg

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 9:56 AM
It'll be a shame to see Bale go, but if these transfers come off we've definitely got a stronger team.

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 10:21 AM
Once we get Lamela in (and I'm assuming it will be confirmed before the Bale move), I'll be completely comfortable with him going at this point. Obviously in an ideal world he would have a huge change of heart and stay, but the team is so much stronger in other areas that we should be better than last year anyway.


2012-13

Lloris

Walker - Dawson - Vertonghen - Ekotto

Parker - Dembele

Lennon - Bale - Dempsey

Defoe


2013-14

Lloris

Walker - Kaboul - Vertonghen - Rose

Paulinho - Capoue - Dembele

Lamela - Soldado - Chadli

Of the changes, I'm saying...

Rose = Ekotto
Kaboul = Dawson
Capoue > Parker
Soldado > Defoe
Chadli = Dempsey
Lamela < Bale

That's not taking into account the change in formation that brings in Paulinho at the expense of Lennon, of course Paulinho is going to be a huge addition to the side even if it's difficult to make a comparison because of the tactical change. I'm being conservative in saying that an injury-free Kaboul and Chadli are about as good as Dawson and Dempsey, they could be better but it's too early to tell at the moment. Beyond the first team we've essentially replaced Livermore and Huddlestone with the returning Sandro and Carroll, and added Townsend.

Assuming we get a defender in to replace Caulker, all I think we need to be really strong is another striker, with one of Defoe or Adebayor leaving. Bale is a huge loss, but if you were offered Bale/Parker/Defoe/Lennon or Lamela/Paulinho/Capoue/Soldado, which would you choose? :D

Bad Collin
August 28th, 2013, 10:30 AM
Hasn't Erikson said that he is not interested in going to a non CL team?

Those players will need time to gel and many of them have potential but they are unproven. I think it is quite unlikely that Spurs will be stronger after losing a match winner like Bale but it will be interesting to see how they develop.

In an ideal world Spurs struggle to play together, Arsenal continue to stagnate and we nip in for fourth and buy everyone next summer.

Bad Collin
August 28th, 2013, 10:44 AM
Actually in an ideal world we would win the league and I'd win the lottery.

thetony
August 28th, 2013, 10:47 AM
Hasn't Erikson said that he is not interested in going to a non CL team?

Spurs had interest in him a few weeks ago and it was said he didn't want to leave for a non-CL team. It may have been his dad who did the declining but you never know how much of a say the kid has too.

Strange thing about Chiriches who is leaving a champions league team in Steau -- but it was pointed out on twitter that he would be earning nearly 10x what he made in Romania.

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 11:21 AM
Călin Mateş ‏@CMatesUK 24s
Vlad Chiriches on the move collapsing a few weeks earlier: "First 2 days I barely was able to sleep, my tears burst when I found out." #THFC

Love him already, fuck off Bale :mad:

Pablo Diablo
August 28th, 2013, 12:06 PM
Really impressed with Spurs putting the money they're going to get from Bale to good use. The team looks like a very good one. Always a good thing for the league to have multiple strong teams.

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 12:08 PM
Lamela done!

WOOP

http://www.asroma.it/en/news/corporate_ljaji_and_lamela

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 12:10 PM
Kaboul is way better than Dawson and although it's early days Chadli looks really good so I'd put him down as better than Dempsey (who looked an utter donkey from day one).

What a window!

The Rosk
August 28th, 2013, 12:22 PM
5th again. AVB booed by November.

RuneEdge
August 28th, 2013, 4:16 PM
Ajax have announced that they have given Tottenham permission to speak to Christian Eriksen.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8894244/tottenham-given-permission-to-speak-to-ajax-midfielder-christian-eriksen

:eek:

This comes out right after wrapping up the Lamela deal. Mental.

TraXX
August 28th, 2013, 4:42 PM
Appaz Norwich are interested in Moses. Would be great, but I'd prefer us to go balls to the wall for a top class centerback.

Both? ;)

turdpower
August 28th, 2013, 5:18 PM
Luiz?

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 5:24 PM
Ahaha, some dude on FTL bumped into Lamela at Heathrow and got a pic.love FTL.

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 5:37 PM
Proper ITK that. Remember the bloke who had a photo with Zokora before the papers knew he was signing? Or the guy who swore blind he had seen Corluka doing photos in a Spurs shirt at the Lodge then got laughed at when it still hadn't happened three weeks later, but it turned out he was telling the truth :D he probably started questioning his own eyes after a while

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 5:37 PM
I just can't believe this window.

Alf
August 28th, 2013, 5:40 PM
Proper ITK that. Remember the bloke who had a photo with Zokora before the papers knew he was signing? Or the guy who swore blind he had seen Corluka doing photos in a Spurs shirt at the Lodge then got laughed at when it still hadn't happened three weeks later, but it turned out he was telling the truth :D he probably started questioning his own eyes after a while

Yep, all of those started on FTL too. It's the smallest community but they are always in the right place. BEN bumped into Bale this morning too,as you do.

Simon
August 28th, 2013, 5:44 PM
Eriksen and Lamela by the weekend and Ozil and Benzema both telling Arsenal to suck out...another strong couple of days for us.

Bad Collin
August 28th, 2013, 6:08 PM
I'll be very disappointed if we are not jumping in on these Eriksen talks if he is willing to speak to non CL teams.

Ringo
August 28th, 2013, 9:16 PM
Looks like Eto'o might be coming then. 1 year deal, taking a 10m paycut... and he'll still get 7m :lol:

Alf
August 29th, 2013, 4:58 AM
'We've lost elvis but signed the beatles'

That's the best thing Crooks has ever said.

Simon
August 29th, 2013, 5:08 AM
Ahahaha that is good.

Simon
August 29th, 2013, 11:06 AM
Eto'o has signed for Chelsea, Arsenal have signed Flamini.

Peter Griffin
August 29th, 2013, 11:22 AM
Chris Samba has joined Dynamo Moscow :rofl:

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 6:32 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS6MsaTCMAA2YoI.jpg

Vlad the Impaler.

Ringo
August 30th, 2013, 6:50 AM
I suppose if Atsu is costing only 3m€ it's a bit of a no brainer. Bring him into the team in a couple of years if he's good enough or sell him for a profit. The reported loan to Vitesse is a little odd though considering we have already loaned them attacking midfielders Lucas Piazon and Gael Kakuta and wing back/winger Cristian Cuevas.

also, United supposedly bid 36m for Baines + Fellaini and 25m for Ander Herrera from Bilbao. Both rejected but another 6m euros would activate Herrera's release clause.

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 10:08 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS697FcCUAIULSO.jpg

Hold me Alf, I'm frightened.

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 10:09 AM
Fuck fucking hell jesus FUUUUUUUUUCK

RuneEdge
August 30th, 2013, 10:22 AM
We sold Ronaldo and got in Owen, Obertan and Valencia. You guys havent even sold Bale yet and youve almost replaced your whole first choice attack and midfield. :(

MikeHunt
August 30th, 2013, 10:25 AM
Sky sports news twitter reporting that Bale has agreed personal terms with real.

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 10:37 AM
Yeah that doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things, the deal was never going to be held up by the discussions between Bale and Madrid, it's the discussions between us and Madrid that were always going to go on for ages, because Madrid like to grandstand without bidding, and our chairman is a penny-pinching toerag Godsend.

I really hope we hold out for a couple more days though, if only for the one-upmanship of making Madrid dismantle the huge stand they erected on the Bernabeu pitch for Bale's unveiling at the start of the week. They've got a game at home on the weekend, so if we can hold out until then they'll have to take it all down again and put it back up again...very petty and childish, but I think on some level the symbolism it would create, of Madrid having to very publicly acknowledge that they had got ahead of themselves and had been put in their place by us, a smaller club but not to be fucked with, would be a nice boost. Maybe that's bias on my part though, would anyone else see it like that even a little bit?

Supposedly Madrid have made two alternative bids - either around 86m in yearly instalments, or a lump sum of 70m. I'm not sure of the logic of this, because my understanding was that with access to loans etc, if we have a guarantee of future funds from Madrid in yearly instalments, then we could lend from banks, creditors etc and buy the players we want, just the same as if we had the money up front, so there would be no logical reason for us to take the lower lump sum amount. Could be wrong about that, there are loads of discussions on it on the Spurs forums with talk of amortisation, tax rates on lump sums and other things and I don't want to know the justification for taking the lump sum enough to try and understand all this economic stuff.

Alf
August 30th, 2013, 10:48 AM
PAMELA LAMELA!

Alf
August 30th, 2013, 10:58 AM
Oooo si, they both trained today too...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS7K3V2CQAQSCwm.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BS7ImJsCMAAe9qF.jpg

Alf
August 30th, 2013, 10:58 AM
What a mad window. How did this happen? Is this the biggest POWER-UP session since Man City were taken over?

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 11:06 AM
Lamela on the bench for Sunday maybe? Bonerville, population: me.

Football Manager and FIFA are gonna be the balls for Spurs fans this year. No more spending five hours at the start of the game trying to get shot of twenty players nowhere near the first team who are taking up half your wage bill.

The Rosk
August 30th, 2013, 11:17 AM
Its almost a brand new side. Will be surprised if its a title fighting side straight off. Lots of expectation but only set pieces scored thus far and new faces coming in could disrupt things further. I really hope Spurs don't choke. If they do, Levy should go to a big club and make them a real powerhouse in the football world.

So has anyone even thought about the possibility of the Bale transfer fucking up? Where the shot would that leave everyone? Is utterly a genuine possibility?

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 11:23 AM
Its almost a brand new side. Will be surprised if its a title fighting side straight off. Lots of expectation but only set pieces scored thus far and new faces coming in could disrupt things further. I really hope Spurs don't choke. If they do, Levy should go to a big club and make them a real powerhouse in the football world.
I don't think a title shot is likely even if things go well. As good as the squad now looks, I still don't think it's as strong as Chelsea or City's. It's worth bearing in mind that for all the spending we've done, it's only today that we've gone beyond what City have spent this summer, before you even think about what they've spent over the past few years.


So has anyone even thought about the possibility of the Bale transfer fucking up? Where the shot would that leave everyone? Is utterly a genuine possibility?

Very unlikely at this point I think, but I don't think it fucks anyone either than Perez, who would look like a complete gimp, and to an extent Bale who would have some apologising to do. The interest-free loan from Joe Lewis means that despite our spending we don't need to sell him, and Madrid have never needed to buy him even if he would improve the side. Neither club have any pressing need for the deal to happen. If it went to shit then Bale would have no choice but to come back, and I honestly think that if this happened he would get over his sulk (just like Modric did), re-apply himself and then we really WOULD be an outside bet for the title.

We're in a mad situation now where anything less than fourth would be a huge underachievement, but anything more than fourth would still be a huge overachievement...on paper we are unarguably the fourth best team in the division, with a pretty large gap either side of us. And yet despite this, I can see us finishing as high as third or as low as sixth.

Alf
August 30th, 2013, 11:25 AM
Yeah, getting the team to blend will take time, but when it does. Boom pow.

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 11:26 AM
I genuinely cannot wait for Sunday. Alf imagine if we completely blew them away. I know it won't happen and it's likely to be a very close match...but imagine the power shift if we really filled them in.

Mik
August 30th, 2013, 2:02 PM
I think Sessegnon's drink driving charge spells his end of the time at the Stadium of Light. Just a month ago I would've been gutted if he went, but now I think that I'm happy for him to go. He just doesnt fit.

Apparently it looks like we're going to sign Ki from Swansea.

Andy
August 30th, 2013, 2:21 PM
ahaha Dawson in the background of that first pic

turdpower
August 30th, 2013, 2:32 PM
Yeah, LOL.

:wtf:

Simon
August 30th, 2013, 4:07 PM
http://gyazo.com/f4afe82ffa7b8737e8fa83b653568c2a.png

FFFFFFFFFFFFFF

RuneEdge
August 30th, 2013, 4:19 PM
Fuckin hell.


Soldado
Chadli------Eriksen------Lamela
Paulinho---Capoue

You've bought a new team. :scared:

Lagom
August 31st, 2013, 5:01 AM
That Spurs squad is scary right now. Absolutely devastated that we didn't jump in on the Eriksen deal, too.

Still, we've got some cause to celebrate, our team looks stronger, and we've had a decent start. Points today would be a huge step forward, a clean sheet would be massive.

BBF
August 31st, 2013, 5:14 AM
Points today for Liverpool would be spectacular.

StevieV
August 31st, 2013, 5:35 AM
Eriksen has me more excited than any of the other signings.

Bad Collin
August 31st, 2013, 5:53 AM
I'm gutted about Eriksen but I guess defence is the area we most need reinforcing.

Rip
August 31st, 2013, 6:04 AM
I'm just waiting for the Spurs offer for Cabaye now.

If you get them all bedded in fast with one or two tweaks in the Winter window you could challenge at the end of this year, excellent window.

Chris Scott
August 31st, 2013, 9:20 AM
I'm gutted about Eriksen but I guess defence is the area we most need reinforcing.

I'd be very pleased if we get llori and Sakho, out defence would be looking strong.

Alf
August 31st, 2013, 10:06 AM
YUS. Only just seen that Eriksen deal went through.

Gary J
August 31st, 2013, 10:21 AM
I'm surprised more clubs weren't in for him. Considering how cheap he went for as well.

Chris Scott
August 31st, 2013, 10:27 AM
YEAH LIKE US GARY J

We've been after him for ages and he would have fitted in nicely at us.

Gary J
August 31st, 2013, 10:37 AM
I was thinking more of Dortmund or Man Utd. Even Wenger must have thought he'd be value at that price.

turdpower
September 1st, 2013, 10:52 AM
It's probably been about 5 years (I guess since Berbatov) that I have had a properly active interest in tomorrow.

Actually it was probably when we were in for Sneijder and Jim White declared that he had big news from Old Trafford at about midday and I watched 10 hours of SSN in a row and they didn't mention it again until about 10pm when they decided to tell me he wasn't signing.

Ringo
September 1st, 2013, 2:22 PM
Chatter on Twitter about Ozil now. TalkSport saying advanced talks with Arsenal. Ballague retweeted some journo saying he's in talks with Milan along with Kaka. Someone else said PSG. Something to watch out for.

Well done Daniel Levy. 100m€ ffs.

Beefy
September 1st, 2013, 2:27 PM
I'd like to see Ozil come to England but wherever he goes it's a terrible bit of business for Real Madrid.

Alf
September 1st, 2013, 2:38 PM
Bale official according to the Real site.

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/es/Actualidad_Primer_Equipo/1330158333625/noticia/Noticia/Bale,_nuevo_jugador_del_Real_Madrid.htm

Alf
September 1st, 2013, 2:38 PM
And our site:

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/club-announcement-010913/

Oh well.

The Rosk
September 1st, 2013, 3:03 PM
Don't worry about it Alf. He's not that incredible. You've got a load of people in for a decent wedge who won't act like strangers after a few months and will get you a few goals. You should have got Benteke while you had the chance mind.

turdpower
September 1st, 2013, 6:14 PM
Weird agent on SSN seemed to suggest he knew about every deal going on.

Arsenal "might" sign one player. United are getting none.

He's involved in a deal bringing a player from a "top" foreign team to a London team.

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 4:28 AM
What's his name?

Ringo
September 2nd, 2013, 4:31 AM
Liverpool complete Sakho and Illori deals. They have about 8 options at centre back now. I know Coates has a bad injury but still.

Anyway us loaning them Moses is pretty farcical. The Benayoun loan to Arsenal was beyond stupid. Liverpool might not be our "rivals" this season necessarily but they are looking good so far and helping them out by lending them one of our homegrown players that we paid almost 10m for 12 months ago is a bit dumb.

Ringo
September 2nd, 2013, 4:35 AM
Kaka back at Milan too btw. They won't have too many options left if they let Ozil go as well.

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 4:38 AM
Ozil better pie off Arsenal the bug-eyed prick.

Bad Collin
September 2nd, 2013, 4:40 AM
Isn't the loan fee pretty steep for Moses? I'm not that excited about him to be honest, I don't think he is better than what we have.

I think Skrtel will go today which will leave us with Agger, Toure and Sahko as experienced options and Ilori and Wisdom as back up. I wouldn't be surprised to see Wisdom go out on loan, there shouldn't be a shortage of takers.

Coates is rubbish and Kelly is always injured so I think they will be gone soon enough.

I think our main area to deal with now is cover/competition for Lucas. If he gets injured then we are left with Allen or Hendo there and neither is suited for that role.

That and the inevitable last minute bid for Suarez from Madrid.

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 4:41 AM
That and the inevitable last minute bid for Suarez from Madrid.
Only Madrid in for him?

Bad Collin
September 2nd, 2013, 4:42 AM
Who else? We wouldn't sell him to an english club and there doesn't seem to be interest from Italy or Germany.

Ringo
September 2nd, 2013, 4:44 AM
Isn't the loan fee pretty steep for Moses? I'm not that excited about him to be honest, I don't think he is better than what we have.



Didn't hear about a fee. We'll hear soon I guess.

I like Coates :(

also


Graeme Bailey ‏@GraemeBailey 49s
Reports in Spain have suggested Mesut Ozil may not be keen on Arsenal, with Manchester United hovering.

May have got your wish already Simon.

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 4:46 AM
Who else? We wouldn't sell him to an english club and there doesn't seem to be interest from Italy or Germany.

:chin: there are rumours. Can't see it happening but there is talk of us going for him. We are currently 2.2m in credit over this transfer window :D

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 4:47 AM
Didn't hear about a fee. We'll hear soon I guess.

I like Coates :(

also



May have got your wish already Simon.

Well he said the other day there was no way he was leaving so hopefully.

Bad Collin
September 2nd, 2013, 4:50 AM
Didn't hear about a fee. We'll hear soon I guess.

I like Coates :(



I have heard 1m and 5m so I guess it will be in the middle of that.

Coates has good technique but he doesn't seem to understand defending. I think he would benefit from a loan to a league one club or something.


:chin: there are rumours. Can't see it happening but there is talk of us going for him. We are currently 2.2m in credit over this transfer window :D

We wouldn't sell to you and you are not in the CL so I'm not sure why he would go there. Lets file that under unlikely.

son_of_foley
September 2nd, 2013, 4:51 AM
League one? Fucking hell Bad Collin bit steep mate. He could comfortably go to somewhere like Palace for the year and do alright

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 4:52 AM
Nothing would surprise me this window. If 50m was thrown your way maybe they would change their mind.

Is it hypocritical of me to not want us to sign him because he's an arsehole, but secretly hope we do sign him so that I can just say "well he's here now so we've no choice but to get behind him and enjoy his on-field qualities"? :D

Ringo
September 2nd, 2013, 4:54 AM
League one? Fucking hell Bad Collin bit steep mate. He could comfortably go to somewhere like Palace for the year and do alright

He was an absolute beast in that Copa America when Uruguay won.

He hasn't looked up to it at all since joining Liverpool though, that's true.

Bad Collin
September 2nd, 2013, 4:56 AM
League one? Fucking hell Bad Collin bit steep mate. He could comfortably go to somewhere like Palace for the year and do alright

I think he needs a season of clearing headers and going up against strikers with strength 20 and not much else. He needs to see the English game at the most basic. We could send him to Tranmere then he wouldn't even have to move.


Nothing would surprise me this window. If 50m was thrown your way maybe they would change their mind.

Is it hypocritical of me to not want us to sign him because he's an arsehole, but secretly hope we do sign him so that I can just say "well he's here now so we've no choice but to get behind him and enjoy his on-field qualities"? :D

That's what you have to do and to be honest when he is ghosting past defenders and hitting perfect 40 yarders it is quite easy to do.

Beefy
September 2nd, 2013, 4:57 AM
Is it hypocritical of me to not want us to sign him because he's an arsehole, but secretly hope we do sign him so that I can just say "well he's here now so we've no choice but to get behind him and enjoy his on-field qualities"? :D

Nope. I think that's pretty natural. I'm sure we've all seen players who can only be loved by their own supporters.

son_of_foley
September 2nd, 2013, 5:00 AM
I think he needs a season of clearing headers and going up against strikers with strength 20 and not much else. He needs to see the English game at the most basic. We could send him to Tranmere then he wouldn't even have to move.


Surely a season of defending in the premier league would mean more though?

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 5:02 AM
BC that is mental. Of course it is better for him to go out on loan to the Prem not fucking League 1 :lol:

Simon
September 2nd, 2013, 5:04 AM
Toby Alderweireld has gone to Atletico.

Bad Collin
September 2nd, 2013, 5:06 AM
It probably is stupid but the reason I think that is the game against Oldham last year. He looked more lost than any player I have ever seen at Liverpool. He just couldn't deal with players who use raw physicality as their main weapon.

Gary J
September 2nd, 2013, 5:15 AM
Skrtel against Havant & waterloo is the worst performance i've ever seen from a Liverpool defender.

Torn
September 2nd, 2013, 5:15 AM
Players like Benteke, Lambert, Carroll, Lukaku etc are far more physically imposing than the majority of League One players BC