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Keano's Magic Hat
August 4th, 2011, 3:42 PM
Yes. Good point.

El Capitano Gatisto
August 4th, 2011, 4:50 PM
Gabriel Milito released by Barcelona, he'd be worth a punt on a free if he can come through a good medical. Arsenal or Liverpool maybe should have a gander at him.

Spurs could probably do without another defender with busted knees.

Simon
August 4th, 2011, 4:55 PM
We need one to replace Woody. Him, King and Milito together might have been able to scrape together 30 games a season between them. As long as Milito could play 20-25.

Andy
August 4th, 2011, 5:46 PM
He's gone back to Independiente.

El Capitano Gatisto
August 4th, 2011, 6:17 PM
Just saw that, yesterday he was being linked to Italian clubs.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 4th, 2011, 6:21 PM
course he was

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 3:43 AM
Appaz Arsenal have rejected a fresh bid for Fabregas. €29m + €6m in extras and €3m for Fabs himself according to Graeme Bailey.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 3:53 AM
Will be interesting to see what happens when Arsenal's qualifier comes around, presumably Fabs won't want to play.

Gary J
August 5th, 2011, 4:18 AM
Even if he doesnt want to play. I'm assuming Arsenal will register him in the squad which would mean he would be unable to play for Barca in the champions league this season assuming he goes there.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 4:23 AM
Unless the rules have changed recently, you can be included in the squad and still be eligible as long as you don't play.

Gary J
August 5th, 2011, 4:31 AM
Ah right then i can see this injury which has kept him out of pre-season suddenly returning.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 5th, 2011, 5:40 AM
If he plays in the qualifier and we lose he can still play for barca in it

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 6:45 AM
Adebayor, Diarra and Samba all close apparently FZZZZZZZZ come on

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 6:51 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00261/cole_261031t.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/184/764/bramble380x529880265a_display_image.jpg?1269867793

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11_01/HRedknappWink_304x337.jpg

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 6:52 AM
In somewhat surprising news, Sky Sports say that PSG are chasing Joe Cole... Give us some money, you French bastards

son_of_foley
August 5th, 2011, 6:55 AM
He's better than Messi so it would be a good move for them. I hope it forces Harry to make his move. TRIFFIC LAD

Bad Collin
August 5th, 2011, 6:57 AM
Adebayor, Diarra and Samba all close apparently FZZZZZZZZ come on

Good job you are not spending money on average players...

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 7:05 AM
Samba you might have a point (personally I rate him), but Adebayor and Diarra? Both are better than any of your summer signings and will probably cost less as well.

Bad Collin
August 5th, 2011, 7:10 AM
Ade is average and will be on big wages, are you buying him or loaning him? City must be really confident of pushing on to sell or loan to Spurs.

Diarra is a good player but he will be agitating for a move as soon as a CL club comes in for him.

RFF Champ
August 5th, 2011, 7:11 AM
Adebayor is a good player but invariably he starts the season really well and then just goes off the boil once he's settled and proven himself. It's difficult to keep him motivated.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 7:12 AM
Adebayor is not average. Diarra is exceptional. Both would walk into your team ahead of the £35m Carroll and the £16m Henderson. Whether either of them would be in it for the long haul is questionable but that's not the issue at hand, you said they were average and they very obviously aren't.

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 7:13 AM
Leaving aside the fact that Diarra and Adebayor are actually good players, how are the two of them and our summer transfers comparable?

Bad Collin
August 5th, 2011, 7:15 AM
I would rather have Carroll. Diarra is good but why compare him to Hendo? Of course he would get into the Liverpool team but he is not going to get Spurs into the champions league.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 7:19 AM
Leaving aside the fact that Diarra and Adebayor are actually good players, how are the two of them and our summer transfers comparable?

Ask BC, he brought up the comparison by alluding to me saying Liverpool had bought average players.

Diarra won't get us into the CL on his own because his position is one we're already strong in, but he would be a good addition and is certainly a player who is proven to be capable of playing at the highest level.

Beefy
August 5th, 2011, 7:23 AM
I'd take Carroll over Adebayor, particularly over the course of a season.

Diarra would be a great signing.

son_of_foley
August 5th, 2011, 7:24 AM
Adebayor enjoys agitating for a move and Spurs supposedly just broke a gentlemans agreement to let Modric go so it would be odd for him to go there. Unless it was a loan and in that case I dont see why City would strengthen a rival

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 7:41 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14418243.stm

Andy
August 5th, 2011, 7:53 AM
While Sky are reporting that we've just rejected a third bid from them. :dunno:

MMH
August 5th, 2011, 8:11 AM
I'd take Carroll over Adebayor, particularly over the course of a season.

Diarra would be a great signing.

Carroll has got to prove that he can last the course of a full season first...

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 8:26 AM
from the daily mail:

Barton's representatives are understood to have been in contact with Old Trafford coaching staff and discussed the possibility of bringing in the Newcastle midfielder as a squad player.

The fact Barton is free is a major factor in negotiations although the 29-year-old is keen to play regular football.
Other big clubs have also made contact with Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester City all watching developments. However, Barton wants to build on his performances last season and the amount of prospective game time he gets will play a major factor in his decision.

--------------

on Adebayor and Diarra to Spurs, how on earth can Spurs afford their wages? If the 60k ceiling that Simon goes on about is even close to being true then they'd be looking at massive paycuts.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 5th, 2011, 8:47 AM
There is no £60k ceiling. Thats bullshit.

Adebayor is probably on £120k pw (it's Man City, don't forget). The thought of him basically halving his wages is laughable. The thought of City paying half of it, while loaning him out to a rival is also not going to happen.

Bad Collin
August 5th, 2011, 8:49 AM
Is there a list of Premier League wage bills somewhere?

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 8:53 AM
Adebayor is on £140k pw ACCORDING TO THE TELEGRAPH.

Alf
August 5th, 2011, 8:55 AM
There is no £60k ceiling.

Prove it.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 8:56 AM
best I could find

http://www.footballticketsonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Top-5-wage-bill.png

But look at this one:

http://www.footballticketsonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Top-5-wage-to-turnover.png

City :lol:

Bad Collin
August 5th, 2011, 8:59 AM
Ask BC, he brought up the comparison by alluding to me saying Liverpool had bought average players.

Diarra won't get us into the CL on his own because his position is one we're already strong in, but he would be a good addition and is certainly a player who is proven to be capable of playing at the highest level.

I was just having a little dig, I wasn't trying to start a like for like comparison.

If these rumours are true then Spurs are clearly trying to get into the CL asap and building on that rather than building for the long term. It will be interesting to see whether Liverpool's strategy of building an English team of youngsters or Tottenham's strategy of buying experienced players will prevail in the long term.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 5th, 2011, 9:00 AM
Prove it.

Other than knowing a starting midfielder for you boys, and basically how much money he talks about having, I have nothing.

I assume he's lying because Simon and Ben said there is a £60k cap.

Alf
August 5th, 2011, 9:01 AM
How much is Hudds on?

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 9:09 AM
Man City have just signed this 6'8" circus freak goalkeeper

http://www.agenda.ro/pictures/diverse-4/pantilimongigelbucurlalot_b.jpg

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 9:14 AM
MASSIVE.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 9:17 AM
Other than knowing a starting midfielder for you boys, and basically how much money he talks about having, I have nothing.

I assume he's lying because Simon and Ben said there is a £60k cap.

If you're saying that Huddlestone is on more than £60k I think you are wrong. If not, then what are you proving? And who are you saying is being paid over the wage cap? Gallas would have been an obvious one but it was confirmed he took a wage cut to come to us, not sure about VDV but he may have gone slightly above that.

It has been suggested that we are now looking to alter our wage policy and going by a team wage cap, so we could for example get £200k a week off the wage bill by getting rid of Woodgate, Keane, Hutton and Jenas, and that would allow us to sign two top class players on £100k a week...but of course it isn't as simple as that, and if players start coming in on that sort of money then the likes of Bale, Modric, Van Der Vaart and even committed long-term players like Dawson, Lennon and Ekotto will be expecting similar packets.

RFF Champ
August 5th, 2011, 9:18 AM
Other than knowing a starting midfielder for you boys, and basically how much money he talks about having, I have nothing.

I assume he's lying because Simon and Ben said there is a £60k cap.

Cap or no cap, it's very difficult to believe that Tom Huddlestone who signed his last contract before Spurs were in the Champions League is on more than 60k a week standard.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 9:18 AM
Man City have just signed this 6'8" circus freak goalkeeper

http://www.agenda.ro/pictures/diverse-4/pantilimongigelbucurlalot_b.jpg


If he's 6'8", how bloody tall is the bloke on the left :eek:

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 9:19 AM
Cap or no cap, it's very difficult to believe that Tom Huddlestone who signed his last contract before Spurs were in the Champions League is on more than 60k a week standard.

Exactly. Huddlestone's wages are not going to be above that, and so they tell you nothing about whether or not we have a wage cap.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 9:20 AM
That's not a bloke, that's a van whoooooooooosh

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 9:22 AM
Tom Huddlestone is paid in garlic bread

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 9:23 AM
How much is Modric apparently on? It was about 60k wasn't it. There's no way Huddlestone is on as big a contract, surely?

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 9:26 AM
Chelsea are ready to up the ante in their pursuit of Tottenham's Luka Modric with the Blues prepared to offer the playmaker £130,000 a week – nearly triple his £50,000 salary at White Hart Lane.


Modric earns £45,000 a week at Spurs, whereas Abramovich was offering him the chance to triple that salary, with add‑ons. In comparison, Levy operates a relatively modest wage structure at Spurs, with a ceiling of £75,000 a week for the club’s best-paid players. He is expected to increase Modric’s salary to make him the highest earner at White Hart Lane.

:dunno:

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 9:47 AM
In response to sof's post that he put in the other thread by accident - Huddlestone has been at the club longer than most and is now a first team regular for a top 5 team, it's completely feasible that him being on £40k-approx would mean the top earners were around £60-70k.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 9:51 AM
Football365 have backtracked on their story that Arsenal rejected Barca's latest offer for Fabregas :chin:

Alf
August 5th, 2011, 9:54 AM
I'd read that VdV is on about 80. I don't know where though.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 11:15 AM
Look how gutted Fabs is that he hasn't been allowed to leave yet.

http://images.football365.com/11/08/800x600/Cesc-Fabregas-Gallery_2631725.jpg

Poor fella.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 11:16 AM
No like cannon badge.

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 12:08 PM
No like have no Messi to pass to :(

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 12:19 PM
no like the embarrassment of being arsenal captain

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Crikey, Arsenal may not even qualify for the Champions League group stage. Second leg away at Udinese will be tough. Need to get a good win at the Emirates.

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 12:21 PM
No like be cup-tied for Champion's League

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 12:29 PM
No like play with silly hair Africans

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 12:39 PM
No like go to Tottingham then....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/robborobson/adebayorpigtails595.jpg

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 12:42 PM
No like play in stadium with no noisy black scream woman

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 1:33 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66025213@N04/6011729987/

MMH
August 5th, 2011, 1:46 PM
No like play in stadium with no noisy black scream woman

Why does every 3rd post of yours seemingly have a reference to a black person in it? :wtf:

You are obsessed man!

BBF
August 5th, 2011, 2:02 PM
APPAZ a deal for Fabregas has been agreed in principle.....

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 2:04 PM
sauce?

BBF
August 5th, 2011, 2:07 PM
Fourth Official on twitter.

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 2:09 PM
Oh fair play then. Done deal.

BBF
August 5th, 2011, 2:10 PM
Pretty much.

BBF
August 5th, 2011, 2:11 PM
His odds are 4/9 to join barce at the moment. Anyone know if those have changed drastically recently?

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 2:12 PM
Fourth Official also says 'Arry is at Villareal/Everton friendly. Spurs fans will hope he's there for Giuseppe Rossi, everyone else for Yakubu.

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 2:16 PM
Fourth Official also says 'Arry is at Villareal/Everton friendly. Spurs fans will hope he's there for Giuseppe Rossi, everyone else for Yakubu.

Or Beckford!

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 2:16 PM
They could buy Borja Valero, Yakubu and Beckford if they sell Modric, and Levy can keep the fiver in change.

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 2:17 PM
MaGay Guy

RFF Champ
August 5th, 2011, 2:40 PM
Joe Jordan and Clive Allen were at the Fulham game last night too.

MMH
August 5th, 2011, 2:41 PM
Or Beckford!

Nowt wrong with Beckford at all.

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 2:43 PM
There is if you're a team with aspirations of Champion's League football next season, and you're faced with the possibility of a bigger team coming in for your best player

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 3:34 PM
Why does every 3rd post of yours seemingly have a reference to a black person in it? :wtf:

You are obsessed man!

Because I'm RACIST.

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 3:35 PM
No want pass to fat lazy Russian no more.

MMH
August 5th, 2011, 3:44 PM
Because I'm RACIST.

Ha not quite, just strangely infatuated with black men.

Nowt wrong with that of course....

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 3:45 PM
Purple Aki messed my head up.

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 3:48 PM
No want "Daddy" Wenger touch my bum-bum hole again.

BBF
August 5th, 2011, 3:50 PM
No want you cunts to do this anymore cos its shit and not funny.

Ringo
August 5th, 2011, 3:50 PM
:::::Dedmkqwdccc;;;;;

Simon
August 5th, 2011, 3:53 PM
No want make angry beard spectacles thief man.

Lagom
August 5th, 2011, 3:53 PM
No think that sound like something i say... Cunto

Keano's Magic Hat
August 5th, 2011, 6:54 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2022942/Manchester-United-winger-Gabriel-Obertan-join-Newcastle.html

mixed feelings.

Bluemoon
August 6th, 2011, 2:46 AM
Back from my hols, kept up to date with the sport and been reading about that dickhead Barton. I'd never ever want him back at City, he's honestly not that good.

Also made up we got Sergio, imagine if Tevez never wanted to leave, those 2 and Super Mario :drool:

RFF Champ
August 6th, 2011, 3:42 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2022942/Manchester-United-winger-Gabriel-Obertan-join-Newcastle.html

mixed feelings.

This will mean an all-French speaking front 6 for us. It doesn't excite me because I think we could have just kept Routledge. We do need a winger though.

Bluemoon
August 6th, 2011, 4:11 AM
Wright-Phillips is available.

Alf
August 6th, 2011, 7:08 AM
Llorente is close appazzzzzz

Ringo
August 6th, 2011, 7:16 AM
Is Adebayor still close?

Alf
August 6th, 2011, 7:17 AM
Wages. He also wants back to Madrid Apppppaaazzzz

Wages an issue with Diarra too appaaazzzzz.

I'm not fussed about Adebayor or Diarra but Llorente would be lovely.

BBF
August 6th, 2011, 7:24 AM
Carew to WHam

Simon
August 6th, 2011, 7:25 AM
Where did you hear the Llorente thing Alfalfa? Seems a bit of a handy link seeing as we're playing Athletic Bilbo Baggins today.

Bluemoon
August 6th, 2011, 7:28 AM
http://m.skysports.com/article/football//7084053

I predict a riot.

Alf
August 6th, 2011, 7:40 AM
Where did you hear the Llorente thing Alfalfa? Seems a bit of a handy link seeing as we're playing Athletic Bilbo Baggins today.

It's been going on for months and months. I think we were first linked about 2 seasons ago.

But this last chunk has been gathering pace in the last few weeks, a fair few ITK wankers popped up a few days ago saying we're talking to Baggins, then Ben popped up last night saying it was close.

It was suggested that we were talking to them in Jan but didn't get anywhere and that's when Danny set up the friendly.

Pablo Diablo
August 6th, 2011, 9:35 AM
Why aren't United in for Diarra?

Andy
August 6th, 2011, 9:57 AM
It would be hilarious if City signed Sneijder. Just wait for all the United fans to come out and say he's not that good anyway, not what we need etc.

Mik
August 6th, 2011, 10:00 AM
We're supposedly seriously linked with Craig Bellamy now. I always used to detest him, but I'm not that arsed anymore. However he could be just what we need.

Simon
August 6th, 2011, 10:02 AM
It would be hilarious if City signed Sneijder. Just wait for all the United fans to come out and say he's not that good anyway, not what we need etc.

He isn't what they need. There's been a lot of discussion on here over that already. He would still be a great signing though, because he's brilliant.

Andy
August 6th, 2011, 10:05 AM
Yeah I agree that he's not what they need, I've always said that. Just want to see the reaction if he does go to City.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 6th, 2011, 10:15 AM
If Sneijder is willing to join City ahead of United then he isn't what we need, as he'd be a money grabbing cunt we could do without.

As for Sneijder the player, I trust Sir Alex in knowing what we need better than anyone. Here is a man who replaced perhaps the best midfielder I've ever seen in Roy Keane with Michael Carrick, a decision that was laughed at by most journos (i can quote that awful Times' piece by heart), pundits and football fans. In fact, you still get a few who are bitter about being shown up as no-nothing fuckwits and are unwilling to give Carrick any credit for our success. We've since gone onto have our most successful period ever as a club with Carrick as a vital part of that side. Don't doubt the master.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 6th, 2011, 11:44 AM
He isn't what they need. There's been a lot of discussion on here over that already. He would still be a great signing though, because he's brilliant.

Was Veron a great signing? Great, great player, but wasn't what United needed. Square peg round hole and that.

Andy
August 6th, 2011, 11:45 AM
Steve Rowley is at the Birmingham game today, presumably watching Scott Dann.

Or maybe we'll be signing Liam Ridgewell.

Simon
August 6th, 2011, 11:48 AM
Was Veron a great signing? Great, great player, but wasn't what United needed. Square peg round hole and that.

As plenty of people have gradually acknowledged over the years, Veron started slowly but got better and better for United and had been their key man for quite a while until his injury. I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a great signing but he certainly wasn't the wrong player or a bad signing. I felt they gave up on him very early.

son_of_foley
August 6th, 2011, 11:52 AM
Steve Rowley is at the Birmingham game today, presumably watching Scott Dann.

Or maybe we'll be signing Liam Ridgewell.

Danns not playing. He's probably watching BAILEY or BRAYFORD

Keano's Magic Hat
August 6th, 2011, 11:52 AM
Veron was bought to win us a champions League. It was Fergie's obsession at the time. We'd just won 3 leagues on the trot and won the league by 18 points in 2001 for fuck sake. His signing coincided with Fergie putting out sub-standard teams in the league, and also with some of our best ever European performances. If Diego Forlan wasn't so shit we would have been in another champions league final. I'll never forgive him for those misses away at Leverkusen. Useless cunt.

Veron was a perfect signing for us, replacing Stam with a very old Blanc not so much.

Andy
August 6th, 2011, 11:53 AM
Odd. Maybe he didn't bother then, was reported last night that he'd be there.

Is Dann on the verge of a move then or injured?

son_of_foley
August 6th, 2011, 12:27 PM
move i guess. Was on the bench

Rip
August 6th, 2011, 4:35 PM
This will mean an all-French speaking front 6 for us. It doesn't excite me because I think we could have just kept Routledge. We do need a winger though.

He's better than Routledge, younger and quicker as well.

Not a bloody striker though.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 6th, 2011, 4:43 PM
Obertan is much better than Routledge. It's why I'm more likely to believe reports that this is a loan move. Obertan, with confidence from playing regularly, could be a very decent option for us.

McBain
August 6th, 2011, 5:39 PM
Wasn't one of the unfortunate consequences of Veron's signing that Scholes was subsequently played out of position?

Ringo
August 6th, 2011, 5:43 PM
Fourth Official says Diarra to Spurs is practically done.

Second City Saint
August 6th, 2011, 5:52 PM
On another Spurs note, I've seen Polacios to Stoke 10m.

McBain
August 6th, 2011, 6:01 PM
Man, if only we could get him down the Villa

Fanny
August 6th, 2011, 6:41 PM
I can only hope that the Bellamy situation only SEEMS so protracted thus far because the negotiations with Celtic over a loan offer and first refusal deal is taking so long to iron out, and not that he's weighing up his options to go to one of a few mid-table Premiership clubs :\

Gary J
August 6th, 2011, 7:12 PM
Didn't Bellamy come out and say he didn't want to go back to Celtic a few days ago?

Fanny
August 6th, 2011, 7:15 PM
did he? :(

Andy
August 6th, 2011, 8:53 PM
Yeah, he says he wants to go to Cardiff, not Celtic.

Fanny
August 6th, 2011, 8:59 PM
tell him to fuck off then will you Andy?

Ringo
August 7th, 2011, 6:56 AM
‪Romelu Lukaku's first visit to Stamford Bridge in 2010 - Dreams Do Come True -English Sub-By Feroze‬‏ - YouTube

Ahaha, love this. Lukaku's first visit to Stamford Bridge on a school trip last year. He's in TEARS at the prospect of one day playing at Stamford Bridge. What a guy. His teacher suggests he's dreaming and he promptly corrects him.

Ringo
August 7th, 2011, 2:53 PM
Another target of ours, Kevin de Bruyne, has apparently narrowly avoided destroying his leg. We were apparently in advanced talks until AVB came in. If we do get him that'll be THREE Belgians coming in this Summer. The Hazard brothers next please. :yes:

Also:
Fourth_Official Fourth Official
Lassana Diarra to travel to London to discuss terms and have a medical with Tottenham #THFC
47 minutes ago

Fourth_Official Fourth Official
Wilson Palacios expected to undergo a medical and sign for Stoke City this week #Stokecity #THFC

:yes:

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 4:38 AM
The diarra chat has been going on for weeks.

Who is this Fourth_Official dude anyway? Reliable?

RFF Champ
August 8th, 2011, 4:49 AM
I've only followed him a few weeks but I think I've seen him get maybe one thing wrong. He tends to be on the pulse for Everton, Leicester and Rangers primarily but he does get other stuff correct.

Ringo
August 8th, 2011, 4:56 AM
The diarra chat has been going on for weeks.

Who is this Fourth_Official dude anyway? Reliable?

Aye that's why I posted it.

Fourth_Official > BEN

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 5:02 AM
:lol: Fourth_Official is just a guy who collates ITK info, every bit of Spurs info he gets is FROM the likes of BEN.

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 5:17 AM
The Diarra stuff has been mainly coming from Akayid (or something like that). Ben has been getting a roasting for his 'Llorente deal is close' stuff from a few days ago. Poor lad.

But, like the gangster that was shot by police the other day thus sparking riots, if you live by the sword you have to expect to die by it.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 7:00 AM
I cannot fucking believe it's five days before the start of the season and we still haven't signed a new striker. Utterly ridiculous.

Wiganer
August 8th, 2011, 7:14 AM
I cannot fucking believe it's five days before the start of the season and we still haven't signed a new striker. Utterly ridiculous.

I can't believe it is five days before the start of the season and you haven't sold your best player to utd.

RFF Champ
August 8th, 2011, 7:57 AM
:lol: Fourth_Official is just a guy who collates ITK info, every bit of Spurs info he gets is FROM the likes of BEN.

This is certainly true for his West Brom news which he tends to lift straight from one of the local paper reporters.

I think he must have some connections though. A lot of news he reports I can't see where else it comes from, particularly the clubs I mentioned. I think he even posted a picture of Charlie holding up a Villa shirt before it went on their website.

RFF Champ
August 8th, 2011, 8:20 AM
Obertan is much better than Routledge. It's why I'm more likely to believe reports that this is a loan move. Obertan, with confidence from playing regularly, could be a very decent option for us.

You'll have seen more of him but from what I've seen he has decent feet, decent pace but can't cross. That's exactly what Gutierrez and Routledge offer.

I think we need a winger, so I'm all for signing Obertan because I trust Graham Carr but I don't think he is a big improvement on Routledge and it's money that could be better spent. I'd love to be proven wrong.

He's in for a medical today appaz. EDIT, I say appaz but Pardew has actually confirmed it.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 8:58 AM
Wilson and Diarra both close to being completed.

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 9:10 AM
WOAH THERE SIMON WITH YOUR CRAZY PREDICTIONS.

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 9:13 AM
According to La Repubblica, we are meeting the 32 mill euro buy-out clause for Napoli's forward Ezequiel Lavezzi.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 9:14 AM
Not sure why we are trying to get him. He averages one in five for Napoli and doesn't play as an out-and-out striker.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 9:19 AM
He's like Tevez but with a first touch. From what I've seen of Napoli, he's a much better footballer than Cavani.

If Spurs are looking for second striker, not sure why they don't go out and sign Rossi, I think he'd be willing to join and, if last season is anything to go by, he's now scoring at the rate of a out-and-out striker.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 9:22 AM
Rossi is supposedly our first choice but he would cost a bomb and isn't interested.

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 9:22 AM
They wanted something like 35m for Rossi, and he needs a partner really. We ideally need someone who is mega upfront on their own.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 9:25 AM
Wasn't Redknapp at the Villarreal game the other day? I assume you've been interested in him in a while, it would be odd to go and watch a player you have no chance of signing.

Then again, maybe he was watching somebody else

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 9:26 AM
Tyldesley made an unusually good point the other day at the Bilbao game, saying that VDV was one of our best players last year but is probably our biggest problem, as he doesn't link particularly well with any of our strikers. Defoe/Crouch and Defoe/Pav are our best partnerships.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 9:29 AM
I agree with that to be honest. Barring one game last year (away at Villa?) Spurs always looked a better side in a 442.

If Modric leaves, then Diarra is one of the few players who could actually partner somebody like VDV in a 2 man midfield. Maybe that's the thinking there?

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 9:33 AM
Modric isn't going you fucking cunt.

If we got someone like Llorente or Adebastard in, then the logic would be to play 4-3-3 with Bale and VDV off of the main striker, with Lennon as an impact sub...but it depends on if we get him. Otherwise Diarra will just offer a short-term solution to the Sandro injury and provide extra competition in midfield. It does strike me as stupid that we could have four quality centre mids (Modric, Diarra, Sandro, Huddlestone) and still not have anyone to put away the chances we create. Under ordinary circumstances I'd be delighted to sign a player like Diarra, but at the moment it just looks like £15m and £3-4m a year wages that could have been put towards signing someone to turn us into a title-challenging side.

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 9:34 AM
Tyldesley made an unusually good point the other day at the Bilbao game, saying that VDV was one of our best players last year but is probably our biggest problem, as he doesn't link particularly well with any of our strikers. Defoe/Crouch and Defoe/Pav are our best partnerships.

Yeah, the trick being that VdV is far has more influence on the field than any of those players put together. So it'd be an idea to get a triker that does work with VdV... and anyway. Crouch worked well with him to begin with.


I agree with that to be honest. Barring one game last year (away at Villa?) Spurs always looked a better side in a 442.

If Modric leaves, then Diarra is one of the few players who could actually partner somebody like VDV in a 2 man midfield. Maybe that's the thinking there?

VdV can't and shouldn't play in central midfield with 1 other.

UK Blue
August 8th, 2011, 9:49 AM
Otherwise Diarra will just offer a short-term solution to the Sandro injury and provide extra competition in midfield.

I think you're seriously underrating Diarra there. He'll be one of the first names on the teamsheet if he signs and I'd give him three games in a Spurs shirt before you and Alf both start creaming over him and considering him your best player. I cannot for the life of me understand why Madrid seemingly want rid - he's the ideal partner for someone like Alonso with his ability to cover the ground at pace, and is far better than Khedira from what I've seen.

I fucking :heart: him.

I also hope you don't sign another striker and play Defoe every game, solely for RFF purposes.

Andy
August 8th, 2011, 9:49 AM
You should sign Darren Bent.

Andy
August 8th, 2011, 9:50 AM
And yeah, Lassana Diarra is absolutely superb. To this day I'm still disappointed Wenger got rid of him.

Ringo
August 8th, 2011, 9:51 AM
Bent would be perfect for Spurs, what a player.

Also West Brom agree fee for Shane Long.

UK Blue
August 8th, 2011, 9:57 AM
Odemwingie and Long would be an interesting pairing.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 9:58 AM
Just to clarify (again), I'm not unhappy that we're signing him, and under normal circumstances I would consider it a real coup...but signing Diarra when we have Modric/Sandro/Huddlestone and no top quality striker seemingly on the horizon, it just seems like the WRONG great addition. If we end the window with at least one top class striker in, then you can re-evaluate it and I'm sure I'll be very happy indeed with Diarra. It just wasn't a priority.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 10:12 AM
we once had a player called Souleymane Mamam in our reserves. He was let go 5 years ago because he was shite, and now, at the age of 24, is back in the United reserve line up on trial after failing miserably at Royal Antwerp and K.R.C Mechelen. What the fuck is this shit about? Shades of the Bebe transfer, this one.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 10:15 AM
Oh, and 24 is his European "age". This twat is supposedly the youngest player to play in a world cup qualifier, for Togo at the age of THIRTEEN :lol:

RuneEdge
August 8th, 2011, 10:21 AM
Apparantly we signed him and then loaned him out for 4 years, after which we decided we didnt want him. :lol:

UK Blue
August 8th, 2011, 10:22 AM
Just to clarify (again), I'm not unhappy that we're signing him, and under normal circumstances I would consider it a real coup...but signing Diarra when we have Modric/Sandro/Huddlestone and no top quality striker seemingly on the horizon, it just seems like the WRONG great addition. If we end the window with at least one top class striker in, then you can re-evaluate it and I'm sure I'll be very happy indeed with Diarra. It just wasn't a priority.

If you're looking to improve, replacing a big immobile lump like Huddlestone with someone with the pace, work-rate and all-round game of Diarra would no doubt be a massive step in the right direction. Huddlestone is a far inferior player in every department other than pinging 50 yard long balls when given time and using his ample weight to lean on people.

I'm sure you'll get a striker in before the end of the month, probably once you've shifted some of the many players considered deadwood that are still on your books. But signing Diarra would be fucking brilliant, OK?! Be more excited you cunt :grumpy:

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 10:23 AM
Apparantly we signed him and then loaned him out for 4 years, after which we decided we didnt want him. :lol:

When I saw his name again, I assumed we'd let him train at Carrington and get fit prior to signing for a new club. But oh no, ol' Mamam is actually on trial. Mad.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 10:25 AM
I would happily dump the dolphin-headed cold-feet cunt if it meant we got Rossi or Adebayor. If we get one of them, THEN I will be happy to sign him. A centre mid of Modric and Diarra would be incredible though. I still remember when it was a toss-up between Jenas and Davis.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 10:26 AM
If you're looking to improve, replacing a big immobile lump like Huddlestone with someone with the pace, work-rate and all-round game of Diarra would no doubt be a massive step in the right direction. Huddlestone is a far inferior player in every department other than pinging 50 yard long balls when given time and using his ample weight to lean on people.

I'm sure you'll get a striker in before the end of the month, probably once you've shifted some of the many players considered deadwood that are still on your books. But signing Diarra would be fucking brilliant, OK?! Be more excited you cunt :grumpy:

I agree here. How often do proven, possibly world class, players like Diarra become available and are realistic signings for Spurs? I doubt he was a priority going into the summer, but it's an opportunity Spurs shouldn't pass up. Like United with Phil Jones.

Diarra is class and will improve Spurs. You'll still sign a striker if you ever intended to.

UK Blue
August 8th, 2011, 10:30 AM
I was pretty spot on with my Kranjcar (would barely play) and Kaboul (useful) predictions. I reckon Diarra would be rated as the best defensive midfielder in the league after a couple of months. Not that there's actually much competition in that area at the moment. £15m would be a real bargain.

Diarra and Mendes is my favourite centre mid ever. Gotta love Pedro.

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 10:31 AM
Pace in the centre of the park? I can't remember the last time I saw that at spurs...

Ergh, that just made me think of the centre-mids we've had over the past decade and a bit of sick came up.

Alf
August 8th, 2011, 10:31 AM
I was pretty spot on with my Kranjcar (would barely play) and Kaboul (useful) predictions. I reckon Diarra would be rated as the best defensive midfielder in the league after a few months. Not that there's actually much competition in that area at the moment.

Diarra and Mendes is my favourite centre mid ever. Gotta love Pedro.

Pedro the pirate. Love him.

Him and Tainio remain heroes of mine.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Don't know why it's not been mentioned in here but Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has had a medical at the scum down the road, £12m up front and £3m in bits.

MACE
August 8th, 2011, 12:50 PM
Exactly what they need.... :rolleyes:

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 12:51 PM
Gervinho and Oxlade Chaimberlain signed. Nasri is almost certainly off

Andy
August 8th, 2011, 1:15 PM
Everything I've seen says 7-8m up front with various add-ons up to a maximum potential total of £12m. There's no chance it's 12m up front.

And yeah, Nasri is clearly off to City. I'm almost certain we'll be told that Chamberlain and Ramsey are adequate replacements for Cesc and Nasri. *cry*

Ringo
August 8th, 2011, 1:15 PM
Poor David Silva!

Andy
August 8th, 2011, 1:16 PM
By the way, Fourth_Official called it this morning well before anyone started reporting he was due to have a medical.

MikeHunt
August 8th, 2011, 1:20 PM
Adam Lallana will be the star from Southampton.

Ringo
August 8th, 2011, 1:26 PM
he already is mate

MikeHunt
August 8th, 2011, 1:36 PM
more so than Chaimberlain? press coverage would have you believe that Chaimberlain is a future world beater where as i've read next to nothing about Lallana. Wenger picked the wrong player imo.

BBF
August 8th, 2011, 1:37 PM
Chamberlain hasn't even played that many games.

36 games over 2 years appaz. Is that really enough to be worth £12m?

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 1:41 PM
Sneijder says 'unofficial' talks have taken place with United, Inter need money, and he wants his future sorted in the next 5 days. Not sure if I even want him here now :eek::D He's pure class, but I'm excited about our young players and don't want him and his arrogant little face impeding their development.

Nasri won't even get in the City side. Silva is a better player I think, and there's no way I can see Mancini playing both.

MikeHunt
August 8th, 2011, 1:42 PM
@ bbf no its mental.

Gangers
August 8th, 2011, 1:54 PM
Silva is miles better, it would be a huge fuck up by Mancini to put his nose out of joint.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 1:57 PM
Interviewer: As it stands, if Manchester United calls and they want to have you, you would immediately say yes, wouldn't you?

Sneijder: Yeah, but Manchester hasn't called officially.

Interviewer: And unofficially?

Sneijder: Unofficially, maybe.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 3:06 PM
BBC says the Chamberlain fee is £12m up front with £3m in add ons

bit much for a player who has done absolutely nothing in his career to show he's worth even half that

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 3:33 PM
The only place I've seen quoting the lower figure is the Daily Mail. Everywhere else confirms £12m up front plus £3m add-ons.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 3:36 PM
Yeah, but this is a transfer fee involving a player coming into ARSENAL. Therefore, the lowest quoted fee on the day shall be used henceforth in all matters concerning the deal.

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 3:39 PM
Well yeah, I mean we wouldn't want Wenger to look like a cunt when the kid plays ten games over the next three years and then gets shipped out quietly.

Andy
August 8th, 2011, 3:47 PM
KMH does have a point about the highest possible fee tending to be quoted for Man United transfers and the lowest for Arsenal. Even with that in mind I just don't believe we paid £12m up front.

Gary J
August 8th, 2011, 3:48 PM
Is he actually any good?

Simon
August 8th, 2011, 3:54 PM
OK ignore the journalists from the BBC, the Independent etc who are paid to find this shit out everyone, Andy has a feeling.

Andy
August 8th, 2011, 4:01 PM
Oh fuck off Simon you idiot. These are the same journalists who make up utter tripe to sell papers. What happened to that exclusive about Inter bidding £40m for Bale? Walcott's initial price is regularly quoted as £12m, Nasri's as even more than that. Neither club had released the fee and until they do I won't believe it's as much as £12m.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 4:06 PM
The point is, nobody knows. The fee will be undisclosed. Doesn't stop you creaming yourself at the idea of Rooney earning a quarter of a million a week at United :rolleyes: He'll be on half that before bonuses.. at best.

Remember O'Shea being on 90k being accepted as fact? He must have taken a hefty pay cut to join Sunderland!

Nobody knows anything

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 4:08 PM
and anyway, is he good? I remember being impressed with him in the FA Cup last year. Very fast and with a decent touch. His name is top notch, too.

Andy
August 8th, 2011, 4:32 PM
I've only seen him a few times and at least twice he was playing through the middle. From the little I've seen he seems a typical Wenger signing - quick, good tough, good vision.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 4:33 PM
small and ineffective? Good news. Cheers.

Bluemoon
August 8th, 2011, 4:34 PM
Everything I've seen says 7-8m up front with various add-ons up to a maximum potential total of £12m. There's no chance it's 12m up front.

And yeah, Nasri is clearly off to City. I'm almost certain we'll be told that Chamberlain and Ramsey are adequate replacements for Cesc and Nasri. *cry*

Heard nothing watertight from us.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 8th, 2011, 6:46 PM
Nasri to City. £185k per week. £22.5m transfer fee.

Delighted he isn't staying for the final season of his contract. Good luck with that Ballon d'or.

RuneEdge
August 8th, 2011, 6:47 PM
Where did you get that from?

Winkle van Tinkle
August 8th, 2011, 6:52 PM
Not concrete, but thats whats being reported. French media are saying he's agreed terms over a 5 year £185k contract, and the deal will be finalised this week.

Pleased it's happening in all honesty. No doubt we'll be weaker for it, but i'm glad we aren't paying him an obscene amount of money that he's done very little for. 5 good months in 3 years.

Beefy
August 8th, 2011, 6:53 PM
The only place I've seen quoting the lower figure is the Daily Mail. Everywhere else confirms £12m up front plus £3m add-ons.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/08/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-arsenal

£5m + £5m in add-ons.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 8th, 2011, 6:56 PM
I think it will be somewhere in between. But knowing how tight Wenger is in transfers, I honestly don't see him stumping up £12m up front.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 8th, 2011, 6:57 PM
Not concrete, but thats whats being reported. French media are saying he's agreed terms over a 5 year £185k contract, and the deal will be finalised this week.

Pleased it's happening in all honesty. No doubt we'll be weaker for it, but i'm glad we aren't paying him an obscene amount of money that he's done very little for. 5 good months in 3 years.

Are City insane? 185k a week and £22.5m on a player they don't need, who is no better then what they already have and who has been no better than average during his time in England (barring a 5 month purple patch).

We'll find out how serious the FFP ruling is soon enough.

Winkle van Tinkle
August 8th, 2011, 7:06 PM
City's problem is going to be how many players they have on their books, because their team is going to be full of Bogardes who will happily see out their contract on ridiculous sums of money.

That sort of atmosphere at the club will be terrible.

I also don't understand why they're buying our players if they want to win stuff; Toure, Adebayor, Clichy and Nasri.... £70m for that mob (one of which is banned and fat, while another isn't in their squad anymore).

Also, i'm sure they probably could have got Nasri for £125k a week. I know it's nothing to the Sheikhs, but still...thats almost £16m over the course of a 5 year contract that they don't need to spend.

Bluemoon
August 8th, 2011, 8:37 PM
Fuck knows why we are buying your rejects, we won the FA Cup without them.

Chris Scott
August 9th, 2011, 4:55 AM
Silva is class, I don't see why Mancini wants Nasri.

Lagom
August 9th, 2011, 5:02 AM
4-2-3-1?


Nasri -- Aguero -- Silva

Dzeko

Could be dangerous. Yaya and De Jong patrolling the midfield.

son_of_foley
August 9th, 2011, 5:07 AM
Yeah, but this is a transfer fee involving a player coming into ARSENAL. Therefore, the lowest quoted fee on the day shall be used henceforth in all matters concerning the deal.

You complain about this a lot and genuinely why do you even care? United do spend big money (Ferdinand, Rooney, Berbatov etc) but they are a massive club and generate even more money. United have a financial advantage (but yes as a club with history also have a pull thats not purely financial) but one thats come about from the size of the club, the size of the stadium and the merchandising.

Walcotts fee is normally advertised as the top amount. Huddlestones to Spurs is still published as 2,5m-3m despite the fact we've got 1m I think out of it so far (and wont be getting any more I think due to the negotiations being done by fraudsters).

It's part of football journalism not just for United and not just protecting Arsenal or whoever. It happens everywhere all the time. People always remember the higher figure that's all.

Also is there not the smallest chance that United are paying more add-ons than anyone else simply because they are so fucking succesfull. Look at Nani what has the club not won since he has been there? Like what add-ons do you think he wouldn't have hit by now?

You guys just won the league for fucks sake and got to the champions league final. Who gives a fuck if the times suggest Anderson cost 10m when in actual fact he cost 7.5m with the other 2.5m being add-ons which may or may not have been triggered?

Problems of the footballing upper class.

son_of_foley
August 9th, 2011, 5:10 AM
4-2-3-1?


Nasri -- Aguero -- Silva

Dzeko

Could be dangerous. Yaya and De Jong patrolling the midfield.

Nasri should be played centrally. He's not as effective wide.

It would seemingly make more sense, to me anyway so therefore not at all, to have

Silva Dzeko Aguero leading a front line of 3.

Yaya and Nasri would you expect push on anyway so if Nasri was 'behind' Aguero they could switch positions with Aguero coming more central when the desire took him

Winkle van Tinkle
August 9th, 2011, 5:30 AM
Nasri isnt creative enough to play in the middle. Doesnt have enough influence from there.

son_of_foley
August 9th, 2011, 5:31 AM
Thought he played his best stuff for Marseille there. Off the striker though but I think he's capable of that in a 3 man midfield. More so than on the wing

Lagom
August 9th, 2011, 5:34 AM
I see where you're coming from. Either way, Mancin needs to unleash his more creative players, they were criticised last season (and not unfairly) for being far too careful and defensive, given the resources at their disposal, and if they want to mount a serious challenge for the title, then he needs to allow a lot more creative freedom.

I guess the signing of Clichy is why i figured that Yaya and De Jong would play more withdrawn than Silva, Aguero and possibly Nasri. If you have De Jong and Yaya with very disciplined roles, then you essentially give yourself 4 centre-backs, who marshall their own half, affording more freedom to the full-backs and attacking midfielders.

I'd line them up like this:


Hart

Richards -- Kompany -- Lescott -- Clichy

Toure -- De Jong

Nasri -- Aguero -- Silva
(rotating 3)

Dzeko

If they get caught on the counter, with De Jong and Toure, they have the extra cover they need should th full-backs be roaming:




Kompany -- Lescott

<---- De Jong----><---- Toure---->


Obviously the full-backs wouldn't be so gung ho against the stronger teams in the league, but against teams City feel they should be beating, then they need to go out and make a few statements this season, I feel

Alf
August 9th, 2011, 5:35 AM
Could it be that City are buying him just to deny Arsenal and maybe Man U... him...

I don't understand what the fuck city are doing buying him.

Lagom
August 9th, 2011, 5:36 AM
Oh, and I don't mean for Nasri and Silva to be wide players sof, simply that I would have them operating in a 3 with Aguero. If they need to drop out wide to make space for themselves, or to stretch the game, then all 3 of them are capable of playing from wide, but they'd be mainly operating fairly centrally

son_of_foley
August 9th, 2011, 5:37 AM
Hes setlled in the premiership so less risk and they are looking for a quick fix solution to get titles.

Lagom
August 9th, 2011, 5:42 AM
Hes setlled in the premiership so less risk and they are looking for a quick fix solution to get titles.

This is a good point. As good as Aguero is, and as much as I doubt he'll flop, Mancini would be slaughtered for spending all that money without a contingency plan should things not work out.

Yes, Nasri is an expensive contingency plan, but as sof says, he's established in the Premier League, and has shown he's capable of playing off the striker, in the middle, or out wide. I think they can only benefit from having that much quality, but the problems lies in the fact that Mancini needs to strike the balance between finding and playing his best XI, and keeping all that talent happy. (Although, I'm sure he's helped a wee bit by big pound signs, in that regard.)

RFF Champ
August 9th, 2011, 6:53 AM
We are in for Erik Pieters from PSV.

Tim Krul has done a bit of tapping up in the press and apparently Pieters is due in for talks soon. Has anyone seen him play?

Young fullback who is supposedly Holland's first choice left back.

Prototype16
August 9th, 2011, 1:26 PM
We've signed Upson :\ Absolutely sorted for back up defenders now then - let's see if we can get some attacking players in the next few days...

Bolton being linked with Tuncay on loan too - that could come back to haunt us

Chris Scott
August 9th, 2011, 2:10 PM
You not think he will be a decent player for you?

Prototype16
August 9th, 2011, 2:35 PM
He's a solid enough signing I guess - decent cover - we did need someone else to play in the back four as we can't count on Woodgate staying fit, I'd have preferred it to be a proper full back though rather than another centre back though, we have other players who can fill in in the centre

Unless Huth or Shawcross leave - in which case Upson is a big step backwards in my opinion

Chris Scott
August 9th, 2011, 3:04 PM
Can't see neither leaving to be honest.

RFF Champ
August 10th, 2011, 6:15 AM
Stoke have also made a double bid for Palacios and Crouch, which has been confirmed by their chairman Peter Coates.

They love a double bid.

Alf
August 10th, 2011, 6:21 AM
Can't see us letting either go unless we get replacements.

P.s... Coulibaly is tearing it up in his reserve games. Love him already. Harry Kane is also being a beast. I hope they both get a shot.

RFF Champ
August 10th, 2011, 6:23 AM
I thought that, plus Peter Coates is a media whore. I thought you said Llorente was set to sign?

Can you imagine having to mark Jones, Crouch, Shawcross, Huth and Woodgate at a corner?

Alf
August 10th, 2011, 6:31 AM
Yeah, word was that it was very close. Turns out it was either bobbins, or it is still close and just hasn't been finalised. Same with Diarra. It has been imminent for about 2 weeks now.

Saying that, it's only wednesday and London has been on lockdown since Saturday, with the area around the stadium in ruins, so people might not be in work... in fact, since Saturday there has been NO itk information about, which for us (as you all know) is very odd as every man and their dog claims to know someone who knows someone....

So yeah, if people haven't been at work we might see some movement towards the end of the week or next week.

Simon
August 10th, 2011, 6:44 AM
Sammy Eto'o is going to that newly moneyed side in Russia, Anzhak Makakala or something. €400k a week apparently, insane.

Lagom
August 10th, 2011, 6:49 AM
Why are they paying him in Euros? :D

Red Dog
August 10th, 2011, 7:07 AM
Matt Derbyshire was at our match last night.

Any good? da_man?

Alf
August 10th, 2011, 7:11 AM
He went throught that patch years ago where he scored loads. Then they shipped him out and he went abroad somewhere didn't he?

Beefy
August 10th, 2011, 7:12 AM
Sammy Eto'o is going to that newly moneyed side in Russia, Anzhak Makakala or something. €400k a week apparently, insane.

How long until the headlines saying that he's sickened by the racist abuse, do we reckon?

RFF Champ
August 10th, 2011, 7:13 AM
Derbyshire went to Olympiakos but didn't seem to play much although his goalscoring record when he did play was decent.

He was on loan at Birmingham last season but like most of their strikers he was shite. If he's played regularly at Championship level I think he could be very good.

MACE
August 10th, 2011, 8:56 AM
Crouch and Palacios to Stoke...

Ringo
August 10th, 2011, 9:04 AM
Great work MACE.

Simon
August 10th, 2011, 9:07 AM
How long until the headlines saying that he's sickened by the racist abuse, do we reckon?

It would be difficult to feel too sorry for him tbh. He's fought against racism before in Italy etc, coming off during a game IIRC...he knows what Russia is like and he's taken the money anyway.

MACE
August 10th, 2011, 9:07 AM
Ha! My bad.

Simon
August 10th, 2011, 11:35 AM
New Tottenham striker target of the day - Klaas Jan Huntelaar.

Alf
August 10th, 2011, 11:38 AM
That one piped up about a month or so ago too.

I think they just have a roladex of 'Spurs Striker Targets' they leaf through every day. It'll be Eto'o next.

Simon
August 10th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Adebayor
Rossi
Llorente
Benzema
Lavezzi
Cavani
Eto'o
Berbatov
Hulk
Falcao
Gyan
Sturridge
Drogba
Wickham
Lukaku
Nilmar
Leandro
Osvaldo
Gameiro
Vucinic
Sow
Pedrozo
Forlan
Aguero
Farfan
Huntelaar

Ringo
August 10th, 2011, 11:43 AM
BALAGUE WITH THE SCOOP

GuillemBalague Guillem Balague
FCB will pay 40m euros (30 fixed+5 variables+5m that Cesc will take off wages). Only little details to confirm but been told done by weekend

MACE
August 10th, 2011, 11:56 AM
GuillemBalague Guillem Balague
the 5m euros from Cesc is 1m euros a year during 5 years that he will reduce from his planned wages. that money will be paid to Arsenal.
2 minutes ago

GuillemBalague Guillem Balague
all the figures in euros: 29 fixed, 6 variable and 5 from cesc
4 minutes ago

GuillemBalague Guillem Balague
my colleague @AlbertLlimos corrects me, he's right: its 29 + 6 variables + 5 from Cesc.They are negotiating the content of the variables now

Andy
August 10th, 2011, 12:25 PM
29m euros? Fuck me.

Bad Collin
August 10th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Wow, this will be a huge loss for Arsenal.

Alf
August 10th, 2011, 12:29 PM
They'll be fine.

Simon
August 10th, 2011, 12:35 PM
Yesssssss good lad Cesc.

Hlebsfall
August 10th, 2011, 12:45 PM
No great loss, he barely turned up last season. At least they can give the captain's armband to someone proper, as opposed to using it as a begging letter to stop them going to Barcelona. I'm pretty certain Arsenal now have 0 players that any other decent team would want. Barcelona will have to wait a couple more years to pay over the odds for a player that will be a flop for them.

Andy
August 10th, 2011, 1:10 PM
It is a great loss, look at our win percentages with and without Cesc. Can't believe we're letting him go for 29m euros.

Not sure about the captain thing. It'll be RVP next instead of the sensible choice of Vermaelen.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 10th, 2011, 1:11 PM
Most decent teams would want Wilshere if there was any chance he was available. After that I'm struggling.

Robin Van Persie would be an obvious one. Great player, but a bit injury prone.

Keano's Magic Hat
August 10th, 2011, 1:22 PM
Stoke have improved year on year since being promoted. They're slowly becoming a good side.

MACE
August 10th, 2011, 3:26 PM
GuillemBalague Guillem Balague
FCB say its their last offer and Arsenal have got a board meeting tomorrow
4 minutes ago

He's very confindent...

GuillemBalague Guillem Balague
I still offer a free Caribbean holiday to anyone who finds where I've said before Cesc is definitively going... :-)

Fanny
August 10th, 2011, 5:31 PM
I think Fabregas is one of the most overrated players on the planet. He won't be a regular in the Barca first team.

Ringo
August 10th, 2011, 5:45 PM
Well yes but that's because they have a couple of lads named Xavi and Iniesta who are quite good at football.

RuneEdge
August 10th, 2011, 6:36 PM
Well the plan has always been for Cesc to eventually take over Xavi's role. I dont think they ever had the intention of having Fabregas as a starter ahead of what they currently have.

Their current midfield is:


---Mascherano
Xavi---------
-------------Iniesta

With the intention of having this as a backup and long term replacement.


---Busquets
Fabregas---------
--------------Thiago

Except Busquets currently plays ahead of Mascherano, of course.

MACE
August 10th, 2011, 6:36 PM
Cesc will develop into one of the best midfielders in the world at Barca ALA Xavi and Iniesta.

Andy
August 10th, 2011, 7:04 PM
Cesc is one of the best midfielders in the world already. If this is all actually true, it's a massive few weeks coming up for Arsenal Football Club.

Andy
August 10th, 2011, 7:12 PM
An interesting stat among all the talk about Fabregas being stolen and him having 'Barca DNA'...

Cesc left Barcelona at 16 for Arsenal. Pedro, Busquets, Thiago and Puyol all joined Barcelona older than 16.

RuneEdge
August 11th, 2011, 12:27 AM
What's your point?

Alf
August 11th, 2011, 5:14 AM
I think you'll be fine without him mate. Absolutely fine.

I reckon you'll snap up Eden Hazard now.

RFF Champ
August 11th, 2011, 5:17 AM
Signing Hazard would use most of the rumoured 29mil upfront Fabregas money and he doesn't look like he wants to leave. Although I guess they could factor in what they save on wages to put towards further transfers.

Quality competition for Song and a good CB and I reckon Arsenal come out laughing.

Simon
August 11th, 2011, 5:17 AM
STILL NO STRIKER FOR US!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hyper:

RFF Champ
August 11th, 2011, 5:23 AM
How much do we reckon Bendtner is on at Arsenal? I've just read that he's on 60k+! We're being linked but there's little chance at that cost.

Now we've done what's important and tied down Shola I think we'll just give him the number 9 and be done with it.

son_of_foley
August 11th, 2011, 5:34 AM
What's your point?

Probably that he has as much Arsenal DNA as Thiago/Pedro/Busquets have Barca DNA

Beefy
August 11th, 2011, 5:41 AM
Fabregas must have been at Arsenal now longer than he had been at Barca. For all the talk about his Barca roots, would he have been so desperate to get back home had he been from Malaga? I doubt it.