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Slare
February 20th, 2008, 10:19 PM
I'm hoping this hasn't been done before. and think its a decent idea, so basically...

Much like the one in the WWE forums, this is a thread for general tid-bits or points that anyone wants to make about a film, a book or a television show which doesn't really warrant its own thread.

Rather than having a thread for every movie that is coming out, and only receiving 5 replies, bring it up in here.

Maybe you've seen an older movie for the first time, or just read a book that you want to share some thoughts on, again, bring it up here.

I reckon this could be quite decent with quite a decent bit of interest building in this forum lately (due to Mik amongst others), so fire away.

mth
February 20th, 2008, 11:16 PM
I saw Hitchcock's The Birds a couple weeks ago. It was brilliant. There was a "making of" feature on the DVD that was about 2 hours long which only made me appreciate the film all the more. Great flick, with some amazing effects for its time.
My favorite scene is when the main character (i can't recall her name now) is sitting on the bench outside the school, and the birds start to appear on the playground equipment. That was just fantastic.
My wife and I have been on a bit of a Hitchcock thing for awhile now....watching Vertigo, Rope (both of which were second viewings for me), and I think a couple others I can't remember (The 39 Steps, perhaps?), and we've also both seen Psycho, too. If anyone has other recommendations of his work, feel free to share.

Hero!
February 21st, 2008, 12:13 AM
Just read "Next" by Michael Chrichton, the guy who wrote Jurassic Park. Fantastic book that takes genetics and Scifi and blend it well into multiple stories that eventually all tie in together. A bit confusing if you don't pay careful attention when reading, and there's plenty reading to do clocking in at over 500 pages long, so take some time out to read this one.

I sound like I'm trying to sell the damn book, but yeah, it was good none-the-less, especially if you really dig Biology/Genetics/SciFi.

SideburnZ
February 21st, 2008, 1:03 AM
Just read "Next" by Michael Chrichton, the guy who wrote Jurassic Park. Fantastic book that takes genetics and Scifi and blend it well into multiple stories that eventually all tie in together. A bit confusing if you don't pay careful attention when reading, and there's plenty reading to do clocking in at over 500 pages long, so take some time out to read this one.

I sound like I'm trying to sell the damn book, but yeah, it was good none-the-less, especially if you really dig Biology/Genetics/SciFi.

http://www.philipkdick.com/images/next%20poster-lg.jpg
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I steal cable
February 21st, 2008, 8:39 AM
I always thought Peter Jackson's best film he directed was Braindead.

I WAS WRONG

Meet the Feebles has to be like the best film ever.

Tom B. Stone
February 21st, 2008, 9:06 AM
Probably only people in the UK will know who I'm talking about here:

Lenny Henry may be the most untalented and unfunny person to ever step in front of a television camera. So how the hell does he keep getting programmes to host? Plus, I believe his latest is looking at funny clips from the Internet - a format which was already cliche before he did it.

The Rosk
February 21st, 2008, 9:15 AM
He used to be semi-decent when he first came out, when racism was still a hot topic and he used to do a Chris Rock-lite effort. See Simon's thread for my thoughts on that.

I hate buying films just for the bit where a bird gets her rack out and I go to that scene, have a tug, THEN watch the film. It spoils the film.

I steal cable
February 21st, 2008, 9:16 AM
Probably only people in the UK will know who I'm talking about here:

Lenny Henry may be the most untalented and unfunny person to ever step in front of a television camera. So how the hell does he keep getting programmes to host? Plus, I believe his latest is looking at funny clips from the Internet - a format which was already cliche before he did it.


my bro offered me a free ticket to go see him live

Told him I couldn't make it, the night of the show was also the same night I liked to pick all the dead skin off the bottom of my foot.

I have my priorities right

Hulkamaniac
February 21st, 2008, 9:58 AM
He used to be semi-decent when he first came out, when racism was still a hot topic and he used to do a Chris Rock-lite effort. See Simon's thread for my thoughts on that.

I hate buying films just for the bit where a bird gets her rack out and I go to that scene, have a tug, THEN watch the film. It spoils the film.

I know what you mean. It annoys me that very few sites offer just skin scenes from films. Redtube considers them to not be hardcore enough, youtube considers them to be too rude to show. Its very annoying.

Winkle van Tinkle
February 21st, 2008, 10:05 AM
I sat and watched Varsity Blues the other night. I really liked it.

Bye.

The_Mike
February 21st, 2008, 12:11 PM
Probably only people in the UK will know who I'm talking about here:

Lenny Henry may be the most untalented and unfunny person to ever step in front of a television camera. So how the hell does he keep getting programmes to host? Plus, I believe his latest is looking at funny clips from the Internet - a format which was already cliche before he did it.

Have to agree there, Tom, I've never found Henry particularly watchable. Drives me nuts when potentially interesting things like Comic Relief have him plastered all over it.

Ringo
February 21st, 2008, 12:15 PM
Lenny Henry is an utter cunt. I despise him. He makes me grind my teeth and leaves me never wanting to laugh again.

He's an anti-comedian.

In other news, The Wire is the best. Watch it.

Hero!
February 21st, 2008, 12:38 PM
http://www.philipkdick.com/images/next%20poster-lg.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_(novel)

More like it.

Sane
February 21st, 2008, 1:35 PM
That really is a good read Hero. Was very fond of the transgenic monkey, wasn't his name something like David or Charlie, can't exactly recall.

Remember being in an absolute Crichton rage about a year or so back. Read the Andromeda Strain, Congo, Jurassic Park, State of Fear and Prey in a span of 3 months. All where tremendous, but remember being especially fond of Prey. Loved the whole survival against an automated killing machine. Also I always think of the monster from Prey, when ever the black smoke monster shows up on lost, they both seem somewhat similar.

JP
February 21st, 2008, 1:47 PM
Series 2 of Skins is proving to be a bloody hard watch compared to the first. Not in a bad way, just more uncomfortable and less chumy.

Hero!
February 21st, 2008, 1:50 PM
That really is a good read Hero. Was very fond of the transgenic monkey, wasn't his name something like David or Charlie, can't exactly recall.


Dave :yes: For a chimp, he was an awesome character. Easily one of the most badass in the story. We were reading this in my genetics class and then I brought the book home and read it on my own and finished it within hours, I have to pick up a copy for my book collection.

Sane
February 21st, 2008, 2:59 PM
Ah that was it. Yeah he was an awesome character. Hopefully we all can have a talking, super protective, bully mauling chimp some day.

Also was fond of the smack talking Parrot with the French name. Gerrard I believe.

Its amazing reading about some of the things in the book you would think as fiction, but are indeed fact. Like the growing of the miniature ear, and the transgenic cactus. Also how they are already selling some transgenic fish(Glofish). Wild.

Hulkamaniac
February 21st, 2008, 8:24 PM
Series 2 of Skins is proving to be a bloody hard watch compared to the first. Not in a bad way, just more uncomfortable and less chumy.

Skins is for kids and gays.

Beforehand
February 21st, 2008, 8:36 PM
I absolutely loathe George Clooney. I am convinced he cannot act a lick. Everytime I see him, I wonder whose role or award nomination he has just taken.

I think every time I pay to see a movie he is in, someone in Hollywood thinks "AHAAHAHAHAHA. Fucker."

JP
February 21st, 2008, 11:52 PM
Skins is for kids and gays.

You watched every episode mate?

Hero!
February 22nd, 2008, 12:16 AM
I just saw the Butterfly Effect, it was on TV. Fucking good movie, very twisted and creepy. It's interesting how people always say "If I could go back an do it all over again..." and then seeing what happens when someone can actually do it. I wish someone else had played the lead because I can't help but connect Ashton with Kelso and just wait for him to say something idiotic.

JP
February 22nd, 2008, 12:24 AM
Butterly Effect was a great concept but a shit film.

RockOverBoston
February 22nd, 2008, 12:30 AM
I absolutely loathe George Clooney. I am convinced he cannot act a lick. Everytime I see him, I wonder whose role or award nomination he has just taken.

I think every time I pay to see a movie he is in, someone in Hollywood thinks "AHAAHAHAHAHA. Fucker."

On a completely relatyed note, finally saw "Michael Clayton" last night. Badass flick, worth the wait.

Purchased it at the same time as "American Gangster" and "Gone Baby Gone" and we've watched all three over the past 3 nights, "Clayton" was the only one I hadn't previously seen. Having seen Tilda Swinton's work in "Clayton" and with Amy Ryan having turned in one of the best performances by any actor in any role in "Gone Baby Gone", though, I've gotta question how one can explain Ruby Dee's Best Supporting Actress nods (and wins) as anything other than some sort of Career Achievment acknowledgement -- her role in "Gangster" was minimal at best, and even her big "Oscar Moment" speech was short, fairly apparant/predictable and, quite honestly, not entirely necessary. Certainly there were a good half dozen supporting roles turned in last year as deserving of acclaim if not moreso than Ruby's.

Back to Clooney, though -- when he's on, I'm a pretty big fan, but he's picked some roles over the span of his big screen career that were questionable at best and flat-out bad at worst. Still, I'll put his work in "Clayton", "Good Night And Good Luck" and "Syriana" up against the resumes of many "better" actors, and Clooney would emerge superior more often than he wouldn't.

Aussie_Outlaw
February 22nd, 2008, 12:39 AM
Butterly Effect was a great concept but a shit film.

And had plot holes you could drive a truck through. Kinda annoys me they had so much potential and all they had to do was fix those huge gaping time travel flaws and you'd have a half decent scifi. Timeline is a much nicer B-Grade action scifi.

JP
February 22nd, 2008, 12:40 AM
A massive truck that could then splice itself into an alternate reality and run over the cast of One Tree Hill.

Hero!
February 22nd, 2008, 12:43 AM
:dunno: I thought it was good for what it was. A creepy SciFi movie toying with a concept that we'll never really understand. I mean, how do you know that killing a butterfly would even have an effect? Perhaps that butterfly was destined to die anyway.

JP
February 22nd, 2008, 12:46 AM
:lol:

The concept of Chaos Theory and Destiny are somewhat polarised.

Hero!
February 22nd, 2008, 12:48 AM
Whoops, poor word choice I guess. hehe.

Aussie_Outlaw
February 22nd, 2008, 12:51 AM
:dunno: I thought it was good for what it was. A creepy SciFi movie toying with a concept that we'll never really understand. I mean, how do you know that killing a butterfly would even have an effect? Perhaps that butterfly was destined to die anyway.

The scene which completely killed it for me was the stigmata in jail sequence. It switched their "time travel logic" as upto that point no-one had been aware of the changes but Ashton but then suddenly everyone else notices the "new" scars. Logically it wouldn't be a big deal as they would have seen them the second he entered the jail as they wouldn't be aware a change had been done.

Makes completely no sense.


I'd rather they remade The Sound of Thunder, or any other dozen or so chaos theory movies that have been created. Primer is a better film even if it's clear it's a incredibly low budget indie film as it actually makes sense even if trying to follow it without a pen & paper will drive you insane.

Thirteen
February 22nd, 2008, 12:53 AM
Didn't they already remake Sound of Thunder in the last year or two, and it turn out to be something extremely horrible?

Beforehand
February 22nd, 2008, 1:44 AM
On a completely relatyed note, finally saw "Michael Clayton" last night. Badass flick, worth the wait.

Back to Clooney, though -- when he's on, I'm a pretty big fan, but he's picked some roles over the span of his big screen career that were questionable at best and flat-out bad at worst. Still, I'll put his work in "Clayton", "Good Night And Good Luck" and "Syriana" up against the resumes of many "better" actors, and Clooney would emerge superior more often than he wouldn't.

I really did like "Michael Clayton". I thought both Tom Wilkinson and Tilda Swinton were absolutely stellar.

See, that's the thing about Clooney - I feel as though I don't get much non-Clooneyness from him. To be honest, I did forget about "Good Night, and Good Luck", which I may have to give him credit for, but as far as "Michael Clayton" and "Syriana" were concerned, I remember thinking "If anyone else were in this role, it would have been knocked out of the park", but as far as Clooney was concerned, I just checked out.

The scene in Clayton with Swinton and Clooney is one example, but it was far worse in "Michael Clayton" than I can remember it being, which is why it's fresh on my mind.

EDIT: I will admit to being sharply against critics and film scholars alike this particular year, though. Amy Ryan, "No Country For Old Men", "There Will Be Blood", Ellen Page, and "Juno" all failed to do a WHOLE lot for me, though I'd still call Ryan top 5 in that category this year. Daniel Day-Lewis wasn't nearly as much as I expected either, but I still think it was the best male performance of the year.

Hulkamaniac
February 22nd, 2008, 8:08 AM
Clooney is a rather good actor, in the Jack Nicholson (every role is rather himself, but they are usually still very strong) vein.

I steal cable
February 22nd, 2008, 11:59 AM
wow, Walker Texas Ranger - Trial by Fire is an amazing film

it's like watching CSI, but with a 3 year old child doing all the special effects shite

why am I still watching this?

Thirteen
February 22nd, 2008, 12:15 PM
I had a friend in college that thought Walker Texas Ranger was the best show on television.

Granted, I would call this friend stupid on a number of occassions afterwards.

On a different topic, I just got finished watching Groundhog's Day. It's not my first time watching it, as I have watched it several times before, but each time I watch it, it still is funny, and I honestly believe it's one of the best comedies out there.

Just thought I would share.

I steal cable
February 22nd, 2008, 12:20 PM
if I ever get pulled over by the police, I wish I had the balls to say what he said

Thirteen
February 22nd, 2008, 12:24 PM
"Is it too early for flapjacks?"

Hero!
February 22nd, 2008, 12:28 PM
Walker was a hell of a show. When I was younger we'd watch it right before (or was it after?) RAW with my dad because he loved it. Wonderful 3 hours of family bonding time watching guys kick other guys' asses.

I steal cable
February 22nd, 2008, 12:30 PM
what would you do if the same day would just repeat itself?

I'm pretty sure I'd just end up going down to the co-op and buying myself a 1l bottle of their Superior White Rum and seeing if I could beat my time in drinking it.

killing yourself in different ways would also be fun, but I'd have to jump from a plane rather than a bell tower or something

RockOverBoston
February 22nd, 2008, 12:35 PM
Isn't anyone going to add any Chuck Norris jokes to the conversation? That's a bit surprising, really, even if we've all heard all of them many times already.


Amy Ryan...failed to do a WHOLE lot for me, though I'd still call Ryan top 5 in that category this year.

She quite honestly turned in perhaps the most realistic performace of a Bostonian in the history of film. Stunningly convincing portrayal, from her dialect/accent to her facial expressions to her body language and on and on it goes, especially when one considers that she's not even American, much less Bostonian.

I'm convinced that if you were to poll anyone who's spent enough time in this region to know how people really are as opposed to the comical portrayals of our residents that you so often get with the overblown accents and the dialogue that no one actually uses, and this group of people had all seen not only all 5 nominated Supporting Actress roles but every other film with a potential nominee, Ryan wins the award in overwhelming fashion. She took that movie, folded it up and stuck it in her purse, that's how much she owned it.

Hulkamaniac
February 22nd, 2008, 12:35 PM
I'd rape.

I steal cable
February 22nd, 2008, 12:38 PM
Walker was a hell of a show. When I was younger we'd watch it right before (or was it after?) RAW with my dad because he loved it. Wonderful 3 hours of family bonding time watching guys kick other guys' asses.

spinning heel kick

It was funny though. Me, my mate and my sister went to see Dodgeball at the cinema. The place was rammed but yet we were the only ones who laughed when Chuck Norris came onto the screen. Texas Ranger was compulsive viewing in my house.

Tom B. Stone
February 22nd, 2008, 5:04 PM
There seems to have been an abundance of one-time-only reunion shows over the last few years. To The Manor Born, The Royle Family, Mult-Coloured Swap Shop, Tiswas, and now plans for The Frost Report. I suppose it beats coming up with new ideas.

xpacnumber1fan
February 22nd, 2008, 11:38 PM
Right now Bravo is playing Friday the 13th part II.

Man, I love those movies. Almost all 80's horror slashers are better than those nowadays. It's just the atmosphere man. And they had a lot less resources back then to deal with shit. If Jason is killing people at Camp Crystal Lake, now you just get on your cell phone and call for help.

I mean, it might not make that much sense to someone else, but something about those movies still make me close my eyes, when modern things barely phase me. Atmosphere.

And liberal amounts of sex helps too.

Beforehand
February 22nd, 2008, 11:39 PM
She quite honestly turned in perhaps the most realistic performace of a Bostonian in the history of film. Stunningly convincing portrayal, from her dialect/accent to her facial expressions to her body language and on and on it goes, especially when one considers that she's not even American, much less Bostonian.

I'm convinced that if you were to poll anyone who's spent enough time in this region to know how people really are as opposed to the comical portrayals of our residents that you so often get with the overblown accents and the dialogue that no one actually uses, and this group of people had all seen not only all 5 nominated Supporting Actress roles but every other film with a potential nominee, Ryan wins the award in overwhelming fashion. She took that movie, folded it up and stuck it in her purse, that's how much she owned it.

:( I don't know any Bostonians, though I do think it's quite awesome that she wasn't even allowed to enter the set one day because she was so deliciously convincing.

Again, though, I was really quite divergent from critical opinion this year, so shit.

xpacnumber1fan
February 22nd, 2008, 11:41 PM
Walker was a hell of a show. When I was younger we'd watch it right before (or was it after?) RAW with my dad because he loved it. Wonderful 3 hours of family bonding time watching guys kick other guys' asses.

You telling me you guys didn't stick around to watch Silk Stockings afterwards?

Beforehand
February 22nd, 2008, 11:57 PM
Entertainment Weekly just did a countdown of their top 100 Oscar snubs of all time. I completely agree with the top pick - it's one of my favorites, and I hate the actor.

#100-76 (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20007870_20164474_20178653,00.html)

#75-51 (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20007870_20164474_20178838,00.html)

#50-26 (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20007870_20164474_20179108,00.html)

#25-1 (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20007870_20164474_20179544,00.html)

xpacnumber1fan
February 23rd, 2008, 12:00 AM
All the links you posted have http:// twice.

Beforehand
February 23rd, 2008, 12:08 AM
Sorry. Fixed.

xpacnumber1fan
February 23rd, 2008, 12:18 AM
Man, even crippled guy in a wheelchair got sex on Friday the 13th II. Are summer camp counselors really like that?

RockOverBoston
February 23rd, 2008, 12:28 AM
Without even looking at those lists -- yet -- I've got 4 of the biggest Oscar snubs of all time:

All four movies that "Rocky" beat out for Best Picture in '76. No knock on "Rocky" as a film, as it was definitly great, but better than "All The Presiden't Men", "Taxi Driver", "Network" and "Bound For Glory"?

Getthafuckouttahere!

Also, since it's on topic, I'll be an Entertainment Weekly subscriber 'till I die. Perfect reading material for when one's on the shitter.

Hero!
February 23rd, 2008, 12:45 AM
You telling me you guys didn't stick around to watch Silk Stockings afterwards?


Too mature for me at the time. I was barely 8 when I started watching wrestling.

Aussie_Outlaw
February 23rd, 2008, 12:45 AM
There seems to have been an abundance of one-time-only reunion shows over the last few years. To The Manor Born, The Royle Family, Mult-Coloured Swap Shop, Tiswas, and now plans for The Frost Report. I suppose it beats coming up with new ideas.

It's not really a new thing as tv reunion shows/movies have been done for ever, with everyone from The Brady Bunch to Growing Pains to Gunsmoke and even Baywatch having little one off shows for tv. Gunsmoke had what, 5 tv movies after the series finished? Ridiculous.

Beforehand
February 23rd, 2008, 12:49 AM
Without even looking at those lists -- yet -- I've got 4 of the biggest Oscar snubs of all time:

All four movies that "Rocky" beat out for Best Picture in '76. No knock on "Rocky" as a film, as it was definitly great, but better than "All The Presiden't Men", "Taxi Driver", "Network" and "Bound For Glory"?

Getthafuckouttahere!

Also, since it's on topic, I'll be an Entertainment Weekly subscriber 'till I die. Perfect reading material for when one's on the shitter.

Snub as in "should have been nominated".

I actually like Entertainment Weekly. :$ It was one of the best moments of Fridays in high school, sad as that might just be.

RockOverBoston
February 23rd, 2008, 1:04 AM
Oh, I meant no sarcasm there whatsoever. Fucking love EW, it just happens to make for good shitter material because the articles tend to be pretty concise.

Ricky
February 23rd, 2008, 12:14 PM
Finally saw Chasing Amy. Great movie. A classic to me as it was a great romantic comedy and Joey Lauren Adams was really really good in it.

Thirteen
February 23rd, 2008, 12:15 PM
Chasing Amy is my second favorite Kevin Smith movie, behind Dogma. The opening is one of my favorite scenes from movies period.

Cewsh
February 23rd, 2008, 12:36 PM
Favorite movie of all time.

Absolutely phenomenally written.

hithit
February 23rd, 2008, 12:52 PM
The Kingdom is a quality fucking movie.

Mr. Boombastic
February 23rd, 2008, 5:01 PM
You telling me you guys didn't stick around to watch Silk Stockings afterwards?

I completely forgot about the greatness of Silk Stalkings. It was always great for a soft core sex scene before the days of high speed internet made that kinda stuff easier to access.

Going back to the Walker Texas Ranger post, I remember for years Walker reruns would be on just before Raw, cause I would remember before the opening Raw music we would get to the the classic Walker theme song

In the Eyes of a Ranger
The unsuspecting stranger
Had better know the truth of wrong from right

Cause the eyes of the Ranger are upon you
Any wrong you do he's gonna see

When you're in Texas look behind you
Cause thats where the Rangers gonna be

Ringo
February 23rd, 2008, 5:09 PM
I'd just like to once again confirm that Wedding Crashers is brilliant, Vince Vaughan and Owen Wilson are two of my favourite people ever, and Rachael McAdams is bloody lovely.

Mr. Boombastic
February 23rd, 2008, 5:12 PM
Wedding Crashers was funny the first time around, but the movie is not very rewatchable in my opinion. For a comedy its far too long and the second half of the movie just isnt that funny.

Go watch Swingers for Vince Vaughn at his best.

Ringo
February 23rd, 2008, 5:13 PM
I've seen it about 8 times now. I love it.

Yeah, I'm a massive homosexual.

Hulkamaniac
February 23rd, 2008, 7:16 PM
Finally saw Chasing Amy. Great movie. A classic to me as it was a great romantic comedy and Joey Lauren Adams was really really good in it.


Chasing Amy is my second favorite Kevin Smith movie, behind Dogma. The opening is one of my favorite scenes from movies period.


Favorite movie of all time.

Absolutely phenomenally written.


I find Kevin Smith to be woefully overrated.

Ricky
February 23rd, 2008, 7:52 PM
A lot of people do. People either love him or hate him it seems.

EdgeHead469
February 23rd, 2008, 7:58 PM
Wedding Crashers was funny the first time around, but the movie is not very rewatchable in my opinion. For a comedy its far too long and the second half of the movie just isnt that funny.

Go watch Swingers for Vince Vaughn at his best.

Swingers > Wedding Crashers for sure, but Wedding Crashers is still a great movie!

If no one has read Harlan Coben get out there and buy his books. I just read Tell No One and I read The Innocent before that, both great novels but read Tell No One for sure.

Jimmy Zero
February 23rd, 2008, 7:59 PM
Mallrats is cool, I don't care what anybody says.

Hobbit
February 23rd, 2008, 8:08 PM
I thought Chasing Amy was boring as fuck. Then again I find a lot of Smith's films to be boring and pandering to geeks. I do like Dogma, Mallrats and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back but only in doses. He's not that good :\

Jimmy Zero
February 23rd, 2008, 8:16 PM
He is pretty overrated, isn't he?

I like Clerks and Mallrats well enough, but the rest of his stuff isn't so hot. Dogma's ok, but I hated Chasing Amy and Jay and Silent Bob was just gay.

Plus, he made Jersey Girl. That's damn near unforgivable in my book.

Hulkamaniac
February 23rd, 2008, 8:19 PM
I tend to think that he's got a sense of humour that is not particularly intelligent and is very specific towards Americans. The only real Brits that I know who like him are the fanboy ones (another big target group for him) who wish that they were American and love all American things.

Jimmy Zero
February 23rd, 2008, 8:26 PM
I don't think I've ever met a woman that likes Kevin Smith. His humor or his movies.

The only people I know that love Kevin Smith are fanboys, too. I don't think that's another big target group for him. It is his target group.

Although, I must say after working in a video store for about 5 years, Clerks is pretty much dead on in terms of day to day occurences as well as the dumb shit you find to talk about with your co-workers.

I mean, one of my coworkers actually tried to tell me that the first Becky on Roseanne was hotter than the second Becky. Of course, this is the same idiot that tried to tell me Robocop could beat the Terminator in a fight and that Pee Wee's Big Adventure wasn't one of the 10 greatest movies ever made.

I steal cable
February 23rd, 2008, 8:47 PM
How can anyone not love Dogma?

Cewsh
February 24th, 2008, 2:53 AM
I find Kevin Smith to be woefully overrated.

I didn't say anything about him either way, mate.

I found that one movie to be wonderfully written, and fair enough to you if you do not.

Cactus Lem
February 24th, 2008, 7:49 AM
Series 2 of Skins is proving to be a bloody hard watch compared to the first. Not in a bad way, just more uncomfortable and less chumy.

I was in pain watching last week's episode. Absolutle shite.

It's common sense that you don't just randomly introduce an un-known character and revolve a whole episode around her when she's probably not going to have any further impact on the series, an the actual storyline was awful anyway.


Without even looking at those lists -- yet -- I've got 4 of the biggest Oscar snubs of all time:

All four movies that "Rocky" beat out for Best Picture in '76. No knock on "Rocky" as a film, as it was definitly great, but better than "All The Presiden't Men", "Taxi Driver", "Network" and "Bound For Glory"?

Getthafuckouttahere!


Also, consider that Dog Day Afternoon and Nashville didn't even recieve nominations, and it makes it seem like even more of an in-justice.



Plus, he made Jersey Girl. That's damn near unforgivable in my book.

I really don't see anything wrong with Jersey Girl. I thought it was a solid effort from someone who was working way outside of his usual mode of film. The relationships established throughout the film were fine, and the actual message and character motivations worked in making what I thought was a nice feel good film.

The only reason I can see for it getting as much shit as it does is the whole Affleck/Jlo rubbish, especially on the back of Gigli, and she's in it Jersey Girl for like 10 minutes.


I tend to think that he's got a sense of humour that is not particularly intelligent and is very specific towards Americans. The only real Brits that I know who like him are the fanboy ones (another big target group for him) who wish that they were American and love all American things.

I LOVE British humour and usually cannot stand a lot of American humour, find most American sitcom incredibly hard to watch (bar Curb Your Enthusiasm which is awesome), but I like most of Smith's films, and particualrly love both Clerks movies. The banter and dialogue between Randall and Dante just reminds me of the typical sort of conversations I have with my mates. I introduced the film to a lot of my mates and they all agreed.

Chris
February 24th, 2008, 8:11 AM
I recently watched Speed - I hadn't seen it in a long time, so I got a real kick out of it.

Howard Payne is just a guilty pleasure as the bad guy. It's also one of those movies where I find the liberal use of the word "Fuck" to be absolutely hilarious.

"Oh! In two hundred years we've gone from "I regret but I have one life to give for my country" to "Fuck you!"?

"Fuck me!" (Jack, after having a look at the bomb under the bus)
".......oh darn!" (Stephens, relaying Jack's message to Harry)

Jack: "You FUCK!" (after Payne tells him about Harry)

Harry: "You fuck!" (after Jack shoots him in the leg)

"You're fired. Everybody's FUCKING fired!" (Mac, after learning that the bridge isn't finished)

Hulkamaniac
February 24th, 2008, 8:56 AM
I didn't say anything about him either way, mate.

I found that one movie to be wonderfully written, and fair enough to you if you do not.

I dont recall saying 'I completely disagree with edgecutioner, I find Kevin Smith to be over-rated'. This is a thread rambling on Movies/TV/Books. I took three consecutive threads talking about a topic and then rambled on that same topic.

Ringo
February 24th, 2008, 9:02 AM
The Clerks films are great stuff. Dogma was alright, like. Jay & Silent Bob was funny when I was 12.

Caer
February 24th, 2008, 9:24 AM
Jay & Silent Bob was funny when I was 12.

That's American comedy. Will Ferrel is shit, but is funny because we still believe we are/hope we are 12. He'll still make an incredible amount of cash based solely on the fact that it's stupid humor. Heaven forbid we have a comedy that goes "over the head" of most. And no we don't need another spoof.

N.E.R.F.
February 24th, 2008, 9:29 AM
Jersey Girl is fantastic.

EdgeHead469
February 24th, 2008, 10:16 AM
The Clerks films are great stuff. Dogma was alright, like. Jay & Silent Bob was funny when I was 12.

I agree, I was never a huge fan of Jay and Silent Bob. I don't think it is so called "12 year old, toilet humor" that turns me off because I am a fan of Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore and those for sure have dumb, 12 year old jokes in them. I don't know what I did not like about Jay and SB?

Dogma is amazing though. I loved that movie when it came out and I still can watch it and enjoy. Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are golden!

Zarius
February 24th, 2008, 11:00 AM
Jay and SB is more an indulgence than an actual "movie". Good for over-the-top reactionary stuff at any moment. Dogma is concrete genius.

Hulkamaniac
February 24th, 2008, 11:24 AM
Dogma is certainly my favourite Kevin Smith film.

Dream-Evil
February 24th, 2008, 11:50 AM
Just finished watching American Psycho (for the first time :ashamed: ) Christ, Bale is an absolute demon (like I needed anymore convincing). Love the phone call to his lawyer. Ahaha.

Slare
February 24th, 2008, 12:40 PM
This thread is going really well.

The past few nights have seen me on a movie binge, so ill give a brief review of what Ive watched. A lot of the films have oddly enough come up in discussion the past few pages too.

Wedding Crashers: First time I had seen it, really enjoyable, funny stuff. Far too long however, really died a bit towards the end until Will Ferell made an appearence.

Creep: Absolute shite

Happy Gilmore: And old classic, still find it funny today. Sandler is overrated to fuck though.

Battle Royale: Immense, gruesome, intense and frightning, great ball-busting film.

The family guy move: is what it is

There will be blood: Should be required viewing, Daniel Day Lewis is the modern generations Pacino/De niro, phenomenal.

Ive watched a lot of films this weekend.

RockOverBoston
February 24th, 2008, 1:05 PM
The thing about "Dogma" as opposed to the rest of Smith's catalog is that all the rest of it, whether you're a fan or not, is unquestionably brainless humor, whereas some of the ideology that he passes along to the viewer in "Dogma" actually causes many to think, most notably the monologue about the 18 year gap in the Bible.

I'd consider myself a Smith fan, but by no means a die-hard like so many others. "Jersey Girl" I didn't care for much at all, and "Clerks 2" was what it was, that being a sequel that came out a good decade too late minus so many of the elements that made the original so good. Still had its moments, of course, but a disappointment overall.

I do enjoy the rest of his catalog.

Hulkamaniac
February 24th, 2008, 1:34 PM
This thread is going really well.




So dont ruin it by turning it into a mini 'review of the latest film I've seen' thread.



There will be blood: Should be required viewing, Daniel Day Lewis is the modern generations Pacino/De niro, phenomenal.


Daniel Day Lewis is not 'this generation', he is closer to Pacino and De Niro's generation than he is of 'this' generation. You're looking at Bale, McAvoy, Gordon-Levitt, Gosling etc as being the newest generation of actors. Though in fairness at 52, his generation consists more of the likes of Viggo Mortensen and George Clooney, two of his fellow nominees this year.

virms
February 24th, 2008, 1:40 PM
Viggo could go down in the history books as the best of all time if he keeps playing his cards right. He is just so good that it is fucking scary.

Really looking forward to him playing Edgar Allan Poe. :hyper:

RockOverBoston
February 24th, 2008, 1:45 PM
Yeah, he's certainly made it pretty apparant that you won't be seeing him in any subpar works.

Hulkamaniac
February 24th, 2008, 1:53 PM
His run of virtuoso performances since the beginning of The Lord of the Rings trilogy has been exceptional.

Aragorn was possibly the deepest and most interesting character who stretched over the three LotR films.

Frank Hopkins in Hidalgo was nothing special.

Tom Stall in A History of Violence is one of the most superb character roles I have ever seen.

Altariste the film was nothing special, but his role of Diego Alatriste y Tenorio was an excellent example of someone inhibiting a role.

Nikolai in Eastern Promises was an utterly chilling role and if it was a critically popular director, I'd have ranked Viggo as a favourite for the Oscar.

Upcoming roles in Appaloosa, The Road and Poe all seem like they may be awards worthy.

Really, there is only Christian Bale who can touch him at the moment (and possibly McAvoy coming into the mix with a couple more deep roles) for varied and interesting consistent and regular performances.

Hero!
February 24th, 2008, 2:19 PM
you know what annoys me, yet entertains me at the same time? Movie censorship. I'm watching Crash on TV right now.

Original line : get on your knees and suck my motherfucking dick.

Censored line: get on your knees and suck my motherhumping rump.

bwahaha, this shit owns.

Ringo
February 24th, 2008, 2:32 PM
Viggo is the Daddy. His upcoming roles could well transform his reputation from 'pretty bloody good' to 'one of the best around'. I just cannot see The Road being anything other than absolutely incredible.

Ricky
February 24th, 2008, 2:46 PM
Anyone know a site that reviews commentaries?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found a good one.

Organasm
February 24th, 2008, 2:55 PM
The Wild Bunch is incredible.
It's level of violence puts an decent John Woo film or more recent turds like Shoot Them Up in the dust. Then there's the other level of animals, civilians and children being caught up in the crossfire which others don't even contemplate. It wasn't just good for it's day, it's good for the present.
The characters are all pretty colourful and have their motives that drive the plot along, that of coming-of-old-age thieves trying to make one last score whilst a group of bounty hunters try and do the same by taking out the wild bunch, all the while aware that times are a changing and life won't ever be the same as it was.
Probably just under The Good, The Bad & The Ugly for the best western ever made.

I was also looking through what books I might get next, liked the look of the following but was hoping for an opinion on them from someone human:
The Road To Gandolfo - Robert Ludlum
The Matarese Circle - Robert Ludlum
The Bourne Supremacy - Robert Ludlum
The Ipcress File - Len Deighton
The Iliad/The Odyssey - Homer
Child Of God - Cormac McCarthy
Running Dog - Don Delillo
Clearly I was in the mood for a spy thriller when I looked these up.

Beer-Belly
February 24th, 2008, 3:04 PM
you know what annoys me, yet entertains me at the same time? Movie censorship. I'm watching Crash on TV right now.

Original line : get on your knees and suck my motherfucking dick.

Censored line: get on your knees and suck my motherhumping rump.

bwahaha, this shit owns.

Crash is terrible. Why watch it censored... or at all. It's contrived and feels like it was written by a committee of 14 year olds. Worst Oscar winner in history.

Ringo
February 24th, 2008, 3:15 PM
Child Of God - Cormac McCarthy
Running Dog - Don Delillo

Excellent stuff. Have you read any other McCarthy/DeLillio books?

Hero!
February 24th, 2008, 3:29 PM
Crash is terrible. Why watch it censored... or at all. It's contrived and feels like it was written by a committee of 14 year olds. Worst Oscar winner in history.

It was the only thing on!

Ringo
February 24th, 2008, 3:31 PM
Crash is great. Ludacris was the shizzle.

Beer-Belly
February 24th, 2008, 3:32 PM
If Don Cheadle were to get into an actual car crash, do you think he would start babbling contrived bull shit?

RockOverBoston
February 24th, 2008, 3:36 PM
Crash is terrible..Worst Oscar winner in history.

"American Beauty" probably has something to say about that comment, as would the aforementioned "Rocky" -- at least "Crash" only had "Brokeback" as realistic competition (and all along you knew the Academy wouldn't have the balls to award "the gay cowboy movie" as its Best Picture), whereas as we've already noted, "Rocky" beat out at least a half dozen superior films.

EdgeHead469
February 24th, 2008, 4:59 PM
Battle Royale: Immense, gruesome, intense and frightning, great ball-busting film.

That movie is pure fucking genuis. One of my favorites. A friend recommended it to me a while back so I got it off of Netflix and watched it, Amazing! If you have not seen it, def get around to that.

Just watched The Bourne Idenity yesterday, I know I am a bit overdue here, but that movie is the shit. I can not beleive I missed out for that long. I went and bought the whole Bourne collection and plan on watching in my free time this week.

Also, is No Country For Old Men worth buying or should I just rent it. I just bought Gone Baby Gone and The Bourne series so I am a little low on money but if its worth it im in.

Ringo
February 24th, 2008, 5:03 PM
It's worth buying.

Cactus Lem
February 24th, 2008, 5:06 PM
I'd consider myself a Smith fan, but by no means a die-hard like so many others. "Jersey Girl" I didn't care for much at all, and "Clerks 2" was what it was, that being a sequel that came out a good decade too late minus so many of the elements that made the original so good. Still had its moments, of course, but a disappointment overall.

I do enjoy the rest of his catalog.

What did you think was missing from Clerks 2? I thought it had all the charm of the first movie, the dialogue was almost on par, did a decent job of including modern day pop culture, really dug the love story between Dante and Rosario Dawson, had some funny cameos, the decent fart jokes and over the top moments, and I loved the ending.

I also bought All The Presidents Men, The Conversation and The Machinist today.

Hulkamaniac
February 24th, 2008, 5:12 PM
"American Beauty" probably has something to say about that comment, as would the aforementioned "Rocky" -- at least "Crash" only had "Brokeback" as realistic competition (and all along you knew the Academy wouldn't have the balls to award "the gay cowboy movie" as its Best Picture), whereas as we've already noted, "Rocky" beat out at least a half dozen superior films.

Not only would I disagree that American Beauty wasnt HUGELY worth its Oscar win, but I'd also point out that Titanic won Best Picture one year too.

RockOverBoston
February 24th, 2008, 5:22 PM
Titanic is a far better example, sure.

Fact is, I quite like "American Beauty", I think my mentioning that whatsoever was subconsciously triggered by the fact that it's a film that seems to get kicked around in that debate quite alot.

To be completely honest, I don't even remember what its competition was off the top of my head.

I'll still stand by the fact that I've very much preferred many other films to have won the award, though.

Lem - I didn't dislike "Clerks 2" but I definitly thought it fell far short of the original. It didn't answer any of the questions that the original may have left one wanting answered, I didn't like the dialogue as much, and last but not least whatsoever, it wasn't a black and white film shot on a $23,000 budget, nor did it even remotely resemble one, and that's something that I thought lent a huge degree of charm and authenticity to the original.

Hulkamaniac
February 24th, 2008, 5:28 PM
The competition that year, from what I can remember (so I may have missed a couple) was very strong, but you could and would easily make a case for American Beauty to be the best of the bunch. In fact, IMDB seems to back that up, cos its the highest on their list out of those around that year. The Sixth Sense, The Insider, The Green Mile...all excellent, were also nominated that year, so was The Cider House Rules...good but not excellent. I also seem to recall Hilary Swank winning for Boys Dont Cry and Denzel Washington doing the interview rounds for The Hurricane too. Two films that were criminally overrated from that year were The Talented Mr. Ripley (in which Matt Damon really should've won a nomination) and Magnolia...which wasnt even nominated for best film.

RockOverBoston
February 24th, 2008, 5:30 PM
Well, I certainly do like "American Beauty" more than all of those, and that is some pretty solid competition, so I stand corrected, and fuck those who continue to speak ill of "American Beauty".

Hulkamaniac
February 24th, 2008, 5:33 PM
A quick check shows that I did in actual fact miss a pretty big one. The Matrix was also released in 1999.

Cactus Lem
February 24th, 2008, 5:35 PM
and last but not least whatsoever, it wasn't a black and white film shot on a $23,000 budget, nor did it even remotely resemble one, and that's something that I thought lent a huge degree of charm and authenticity to the original.

I can understand that to be fair. But then again, I liked the fact that we got a higher budget cleaner cut Clerks, as much as I love the total grass roots of the original. I kind've fits with the whole theme of 'growing up' thats involved with the film.

Jimmy Zero
February 25th, 2008, 1:29 AM
American Beauty was lame.

Oh wow, a plastic bag. How profound.

hbk0071042
February 25th, 2008, 3:29 AM
American Beauty was lame.

Oh wow, a plastic bag. How profound.


yes family guy pointed this out in a quite funny moment

Jimmy Zero
February 25th, 2008, 3:32 AM
Now that's overrated, right there.

There are few things I hate more than Family Guy.

I steal cable
February 25th, 2008, 8:01 AM
Battle Royale: Immense, gruesome, intense and frightning, great ball-busting film.

For the love of god please don't watch Battle Royale 2.

it's fucking terrible and that's putting it nicely

EdgeHead469
February 25th, 2008, 8:13 AM
For the love of god please don't watch Battle Royale 2.

it's fucking terrible and that's putting it nicely

For sure, will back up this guys statment. If you don't want to ruin Battle Royale, then do not watch the second one.

As for the America Beauty debut, the movie was golden. Kevin Spacey was awesome in it and the storyline, while a little fucked up was humorous and a great drama. The acting was perfect and overall it was a great movie.

The whole bag thing was dumb, yeah, but it added to that kids character and it was original.

I steal cable
February 25th, 2008, 8:38 AM
American Splendor > American Gangster > American Psycho > American Graffiti > American Beauty > American History X

oh look, i like black ppl now pfffffffft

Organasm
February 25th, 2008, 7:57 PM
Excellent stuff. Have you read any other McCarthy/DeLillio books?
Just McCarthy's Blood Meridian and The Road. I didn't really like The Road, but Blood had huge moments of absolute brilliance so I'm willing to give him another shot. Plus, COG's about a social outcast/necrophiliac, that's gotta be worth a read surely.

Hobbit
February 25th, 2008, 8:12 PM
American Splendor > American Gangster > American Psycho > American Graffiti > American Beauty > American History X

oh look, i like black ppl now pfffffffft

Christ that reminds me, I've had American Splendor on DVD for about a year but not seen it yet. Giamatti!

Got Atonement sat here too. WHICH ONE FFS

The_Mike
February 25th, 2008, 8:39 PM
I didn't much like American Splendor. Just seemed incredibly dull to me.

mth
February 25th, 2008, 9:21 PM
I thought American Splendor was quite good.

Hobbit
February 25th, 2008, 9:29 PM
I wonder what Mary thinks.

Probably quite the contrary.

The Truth
February 25th, 2008, 9:36 PM
Just got finished watching Capote. It was alright, nothing great though. I'd give it a 7/10. Hoffman's performance was excellent. 8.5/9 out of 10.

Bought a SHIT LOAD of DVD's tonight. Brokeback, Lost In Translation, American Psycho, Gladiator, Stardust, etc. Shall do me nicely for the rest of this week.

And any news on this VANTAGE POINT film? I saw Forest Whitaker on Jonathan Ross the other day (probably a Friday) and it intrigued me but when I saw DR. JACK in the trailer I almost ruptured my spleen.

House of Pancakes
February 26th, 2008, 12:48 AM
Two films that were criminally overrated from that year were Magnolia...

Don't even start with me.

I steal cable
February 26th, 2008, 8:15 AM
I wonder what Mary thinks.

I try not to, it hurts when I do

American Splendor is the dog's bollocks though

Ringo
February 26th, 2008, 8:35 AM
Has anyone seen Stephen Poliakoff's Capturing Mary?

Made for TV film, along with Joe's Palace (which is also excellent by the way). It features Maggie Smith, Ruth Wilson, Danny Lee Wynter.. but perhaps most notably - DAVID WALLIAMS. That's right. David Walliams is in it. And he is fucking brilliant.

Seriously, I cannot stress enough how great he is in this. His character is stunning. Anyway, it's fucking awesome.

WATCH IT.

PurePlayer
February 26th, 2008, 10:25 AM
A quick check shows that I did in actual fact miss a pretty big one. The Matrix was also released in 1999.

American Beauty was the best picture that year in my opinion. I don't know how anyone can say it wasn't deserving considering the other movies involved. Yes the Matrix, Insider, Green Mile, Sixth Sense were all great movies but not good enough where one can say American Beauty was not deserving.

Ringo
February 26th, 2008, 11:00 AM
I like The Green Mile a hell of a lot more than American Beauty, personally.

RockOverBoston
February 26th, 2008, 11:28 AM
And any news on this VANTAGE POINT film? I saw Forest Whitaker on Jonathan Ross the other day (probably a Friday) and it intrigued me but when I saw DR. JACK in the trailer I almost ruptured my spleen.

All of the reputable reviews I've seen seem to agree that it's medicore at best, nothing we haven't already seen before and your good action sequences are all heavily displayed in the trailer. My friends who saw it pretty much echoed that.

I'll rent it when it comes out on DVD, but I'm not exactly anxiously awaiting that day, either.


For sure, will back up this guys statment

Perhaps you ought to be sure that it's actually a guy whose statement you're backing up before referring to her as such.

Hulkamaniac
February 26th, 2008, 11:33 AM
Don't even start with me.


In actuality, I meant to type UNDER-rated. Magnolia and The Talented Mr. Ripley were both great.



Christ that reminds me, I've had American Splendor on DVD for about a year but not seen it yet. Giamatti!

Got Atonement sat here too. WHICH ONE FFS

Atonement.

KorruptJustice
February 26th, 2008, 11:33 AM
Just saw White Heat for the first time yesterday. Really enjoyable film, and Cagney does a great job in it.

As to the American Beauty debate, I agree with Ringo that I enjoyed The Green Mile more, but I still thought that American Beauty was good enough that I can't complain about it being named the Best Picture of that year.

I steal cable
February 26th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Perhaps you ought to be sure that it's actually a guy whose statement you're backing up before referring to her as such.

aint no thang

I always assume that most of the people who post on here are just useless dipshits, but then I'm usually justified in thinking that way.

Ringo
February 26th, 2008, 11:41 AM
No one has seen Capturing Mary then?

Do. David Walliams > Most.

I steal cable
February 26th, 2008, 11:45 AM
I watched There's Something About Mary like 2 weeks ago if that would make you feel any better :yes:

it's not some period drama is it this Capturing Mary?

EdgeHead469
February 26th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Perhaps you ought to be sure that it's actually a guy whose statement you're backing up before referring to her as such.

Woo, woo.. don't get all hostile now. I apologize I am not personal friends with everyone on the board and I do not review there profiles.


aint no thang

I always assume that most of the people who post on here are just useless dipshits, but then I'm usually justified in thinking that way.

:scared:

Cactus Lem
February 26th, 2008, 12:16 PM
I've recently been watching a lot of the X-Men cartoon from the 90's. I loved it back in the day and got pretty excited when I saw that someone had uploaded all 5 seasons.

I wondered whether I'd enjoy as much as I once did, and I gotta say, I'm liking it even more. As a kid I really didn't understand any of the issues that the cartoon dealt with, but there seem to be a good deal of social and political issues adressed throughout. Last night for example, I watched an episode that was basically a parody and commentary on the LA Riots, and there's also stuff about US relations and Cyberculture (to name just two areas) mentioned throughout.

I'd say it's overtaken Transformers as my favourite cartoon (bar The Simpsons). Well written and a lot of adult appeal.

I steal cable
February 26th, 2008, 12:30 PM
Woo, woo.. don't get all hostile now. I apologize I am not personal friends with everyone on the board and I do not review there profiles.

Don't fret, I'm just gonna make it my main mission in life to take you down :heart:


I've recently been watching a lot of the X-Men cartoon from the 90's. I loved it back in the day and got pretty excited when I saw that someone had uploaded all 5 seasons.

I wondered whether I'd enjoy as much as I once did, and I gotta say, I'm liking it even more. As a kid I really didn't understand any of the issues that the cartoon dealt with, but there seem to be a good deal of social and political issues adressed throughout. Last night for example, I watched an episode that was basically a parody and commentary on the LA Riots, and there's also stuff about US relations and Cyberculture (to name just two areas) mentioned throughout.

I'd say it's overtaken Transformers as my favourite cartoon (bar The Simpsons). Well written and a lot of adult appeal.

fuckin' a

I watched a few of the new X-men cartoons which came out and I didn't think too much of them. Well, I stopped watching them but my sister carried on watching. She told me they had got better as it went on. Might d/l them whenever.

Cactus Lem
February 26th, 2008, 1:57 PM
[color=pink]fuckin' a

I watched a few of the new X-men cartoons which came out and I didn't think too much of them. Well, I stopped watching them but my sister carried on watching. She told me they had got better as it went on. Might d/l them whenever.

Yah X-Men Evolution looked rubbish. the art work alone put me off ever giving it a try.

I'm currently watching Ghost in the Shell, gotta watch it for Uni, and I'm really not liking it. First Anime I've ever watched, can't say I'll be watching any more any time soon.

Hulkamaniac
February 26th, 2008, 4:08 PM
I, generally, hate anime.

Ringo
February 26th, 2008, 4:10 PM
Anime (minus Studio Ghibli) = :no:

Cactus Lem
February 26th, 2008, 4:12 PM
I, generally, hate anime.

I was willing to give it a go, and didn't impress me one bit. Damn shame there seem to be a lot of people in my class who are into it. The Anime city got the bump over Berlin as a city on one of my modules last year after a class vote. Needless to say I was pissed off and bunked that lecture.

The Masked Jobber
February 26th, 2008, 4:24 PM
I always thought Peter Jackson's best film he directed was Braindead.

I WAS WRONG

Meet the Feebles has to be like the best film ever.

haha hellz yeah.

I steal cable
February 26th, 2008, 4:28 PM
topless hippo going columbine = class

also, I never thought i'd see a cat give a walrus head

Ricky
February 26th, 2008, 8:54 PM
Saw A Clockwork Orange last night.

Greatness.

thetony
February 26th, 2008, 9:12 PM
Your first time?

It terrified me. :( Now it makes me laugh.

Second City Saint
February 26th, 2008, 9:59 PM
Read the book, the ending's a bit different.



But Kubrick is fucking awesome; Dr. Strangelove, 2001, the Shining, and Clockwork are among my favorite movies ever.

Annette
February 26th, 2008, 10:36 PM
I don't think I've ever met a woman that likes Kevin Smith. His humor or his movies.

I love Kevin Smith - his humor AND his movies. :$ I don't laugh insanely at the movies as I did the first time I seen them, but I do appreciate the humor that, at the time, was so far out-there and so far-gone than anything I was used to.

Anyone else see "Across the Universe" lately?

Ace Rockola
February 27th, 2008, 12:15 AM
Anyone else see "Across the Universe" lately?

Gave it a second full viewing when the DVD came out. Fucking love that movie.

Fun little picture I saw this past weekend. In Bruges. Really funny stuff. Kinda Pulp Fiction-ish with the dialouge and such. But not to a point where you think they literally just sat there and copied the fucking movie. Only real gripe is TOO much dark in the dark comedy idea. The reason they have to hide out in Bruges kinda kills any jokes you hear for the next 20 minutes.

And WWE needs to take a page out of this when it comes to midget humor. No classic Looney Tunes skits. Make Hornswoggle a racist who has a drug and whore addiction.

The_Mike
February 27th, 2008, 12:20 AM
I saw the trailer for In Bruges today, looked pretty good. I worry though that it's the kind of film where all the best jokes are laid out in the trailer so there's little but plot for you to take in when you actually see it.

Ace Rockola
February 27th, 2008, 12:45 AM
I saw the trailer for In Bruges today, looked pretty good. I worry though that it's the kind of film where all the best jokes are laid out in the trailer so there's little but plot for you to take in when you actually see it.

I thought the exact same thing. Two of the best lines are in the trailer. "If I'd grown up on a farm and was retarded..." and the part with the fat American's being told they couldn't get up the steps. But there's plenty more than that to offer.

Ace Rockola
February 27th, 2008, 2:34 AM
Want to know the best thing you could spend 99 cents on? Go to iTunes, search for Semi-Pro and a song called "Love Me Sexy" you shall not regret it.

Morrison
February 27th, 2008, 3:02 AM
Speaking of Semi-Pro, is anyone else getting tired of Will Ferrell's schtick? I still find it funny on some level, but the guy basically plays the same character in every single comedy he's in, and it's getting to the point where it feels kinda pathetic.

Ace Rockola
February 27th, 2008, 3:21 AM
It still cracks me up to no end. And honestly, I used to not really like Will Ferrell. He didn't win me over til after he left SNL and the bit part in Jay and Silent Bob.

Jack Black on the other hand I think I'm worn out on. Though I still sorta want to watch Be Kind Rewind.

Dream-Evil
February 27th, 2008, 4:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSpCWJnnWVI

Goodness me. I don't know what to think upon watching this. It looks both ridiculous/stupid and hilarious/awesome at the same time.

Thirteen
February 27th, 2008, 7:18 AM
I've never really liked Will Ferrall. I must be one of the few to hate Old School and Anchorman, although I did surprisingly enjoy Talledega Nights.

I would agree with you on Jack Black as well, as I haven't really enjoyed much of his movies, although, I think he is a good actor, if he stays away from the over the top comedies he likes so much. I almost see Black as a young Danny Devito. Does the crazy stuff, sometimes much to our displeasure, but can put out a role outside of his norm that's pretty good.

I steal cable
February 27th, 2008, 8:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSpCWJnnWVI

Goodness me. I don't know what to think upon watching this. It looks both ridiculous/stupid and hilarious/awesome at the same time.
oh. my. god.

words can't describe...

I need to see that movie

N.E.R.F.
February 27th, 2008, 12:08 PM
I have a new favourite film. :eek:

that's brilliant.

Cewsh
February 27th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Fucking Christ that looks insane!

:panic:

I steal cable
February 27th, 2008, 12:27 PM
someone should make a thread about this film

Second City Saint
February 27th, 2008, 1:24 PM
i am absolutely astonished that didn't say 'a quentin terrantino film' at the end

Organasm
February 27th, 2008, 2:39 PM
I'd rather watch a full version of Machete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCHGwXa2mTk

foleybumps
February 27th, 2008, 5:48 PM
Watched Pan's Labyrinth the other day, and there was one thing that struck me early on: I think that is the first time I can recall hearing someone speak Spanish who wasn't from Mexico (I'm from the U.S.) Just seemed odd.

Great movie by the way. Was a little angry at the beginning because I watched it On Demand and they failed to mention the subtitles, but I didn't even notice them after a few minutes.

Ivana Baquero was GREAT in this, in my opinion. It's nice to see a child actor/actress that doesn't play the "kid" role. 3.5 / 4 star movie for me.

Ringo
February 27th, 2008, 5:49 PM
Watched Pan's Labyrinth the other day, and there was one thing that struck me early on: I think that is the first time I can recall hearing someone speak Spanish who wasn't from Mexico (I'm from the U.S.) Just seemed odd.

Wow. :wtf:

Sheltered or what.

Hobbit
February 27th, 2008, 5:52 PM
That Machine Girl thing looks incredible.

DRILL BRA

Ringo
February 27th, 2008, 5:52 PM
The flying guillotine was the best.

foleybumps
February 27th, 2008, 6:06 PM
Wow. :wtf:

Sheltered or what.

Don't believe so. It's just all I ever meet here in the states are Mexicans. There's lots, trust me.

Also, maybe I couldn't even tell the difference between the two in actual conversation. So it's possible I have heard one before, but it was just the tone of the movie that was different. :dunno:

Cewsh
February 27th, 2008, 6:18 PM
Its actually fairly common in the States.

About 50 million Mexicans and about 1 million Spaniards will make it that way.

Note: Those numbers are way off, but I guarantee than its skewed roughly the way I suggest.

foleybumps
February 27th, 2008, 6:24 PM
Eh.

blackening
February 28th, 2008, 1:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSpCWJnnWVI

Goodness me. I don't know what to think upon watching this. It looks both ridiculous/stupid and hilarious/awesome at the same time.
Holy shit, that looks insane.

I steal cable
February 28th, 2008, 12:09 PM
Is it me or The Nanny was a bloody good tv show?

it's just me?

nm, carry on

Cewsh
February 28th, 2008, 12:11 PM
They relied alot on how amusing it was that her voice was really annoying, but it was surprisingly well written if you go back and watch it.

I steal cable
February 28th, 2008, 12:53 PM
thankyou, I think I'll now sing your praises in that thread in da asylum

Anywayz, It just pisses me off that it's not all out on DVD. I'm having to d/l it with my shitty version of vista which is taking fecking forever.

There's only so many time you can watch The Beautician and the Beast

thetony
February 28th, 2008, 7:14 PM
Children of Men has to be the best movie I've seen in years. :yes:

Ringo
February 29th, 2008, 8:10 AM
You can't have seen "White Chicks" yet, then. Get on that.

I steal cable
February 29th, 2008, 8:47 AM
yeah, then after that go watch Norbit

foleybumps
February 29th, 2008, 1:21 PM
Children of Men has to be the best movie I've seen in years. :yes:

I hear this quite a lot. Am I the only one who thought this was a very poor movie? Help me.

Annette
February 29th, 2008, 1:24 PM
Children of Men has to be the best movie I've seen in years. :yes:

Good deal, Netflix is sending it out to me today so I should have it tomorrow.

I steal cable
February 29th, 2008, 1:28 PM
I hear this quite a lot. Am I the only one who thought this was a very poor movie? Help me.

oh dear, oh fucking dear

I'd leave before Mik returns here.

How the fuck in your eyes is this a shite film?

JIJ
February 29th, 2008, 1:57 PM
I've never really liked Will Ferrall. I must be one of the few to hate Old School and Anchorman, although I did surprisingly enjoy Talledega Nights.

:yes:

Cewsh
February 29th, 2008, 1:58 PM
I hear this quite a lot. Am I the only one who thought this was a very poor movie? Help me.

Yes. For fuck's sake, yes.

foleybumps
February 29th, 2008, 2:22 PM
oh dear, oh fucking dear

I'd leave before Mik returns here.

How the fuck in your eyes is this a shite film?

Well, two things may have played a part in this: one, I was drinking; two, from the beginning I could tell this was one of those movies with a very lofty goal. That said, I will make time to watch it again in the next few days and I will let you know if anything changes.

I remember two things really bothering me, though. First was the denoument, the scene where all the shooting and bombing stops because the baby is crying. To someone who has never seen the movie before, that is probably a rather humorous description of a scene. It was to me as well, with this potentially powerful situation ruined by the ridiculous way in which it happened. On top of that, THE FIGHTING RESUMES ONCE THE CHILD IS GONE. Am I really the only one who thought that this was almost nonsensical? I mean, if "humanity" didn't see the error of their ways, then what is there for us to take away from the movie? Let's follow the plot:

The Build up:
I. People can no longer have children, therefore
II. There is no future for humanity, therefore
III. There is nothing to live for, therefore
IV. Lawlessness and civil unrest take over.

The Climax:
I. A newly born child is discovered, therefore
II. At least one person can have a child, therefore
III. There presumably is going to be a future for humanity, therefore
IV. Lawlessness and civil unrest cease to ensure the child's survival

The Conclusion
I. The civil unrest and fighting continue once the child is safe

That last one really ruins the symmetry of the film in my eyes, look:

(Scene is two people fighting)

Person 1: I'm going to kill you.
Person 2: Don't shoot, I think I hear a baby crying.
Person 1: Oh, you're right, let's let them through.
Person 2: What a cute baby.
Person 1: I guess there is hope for a better tomorrow
(baby leaves)
Person 1: Alright, the baby's gone, now I'm going to finish killing you.

Way to put an optimistic spin on humanity. And before anyone says that it would be unreasonable for them to forget their differences in the middle of fighting, I want to point out how unreasonable it is for them to all stop fighting for the crying baby, which they really shouldn't be able to hear.

This and the sung that played during the credits seemed so completely out of place for the way the movie ended that I actually lol'd.

Like I said, I will watch it again, but that probably will not change my opinion on the ending, assuming I remembered it correctly. Sorry in advance, Mik.

Cactus Lem
February 29th, 2008, 3:02 PM
Yes. For fuck's sake, yes.

How in anyway is Children of Men a poor film? Seriously?

Even if you didn't like the storyline, I'd say it's one of the most innovative pieces of film making I've seen in the past few years.

Cewsh
February 29th, 2008, 3:03 PM
How in anyway is Children of Men a poor film? Seriously?

Even if you didn't like the storyline, I'd say it's one of the most innovative pieces of film making I've seen in the past few years.

Lemmy, he asked if he was the only one who didn't like it. Hence my response.

Cactus Lem
February 29th, 2008, 3:06 PM
Lemmy, he asked if he was the only one who didn't like it. Hence my response.

Ah sorry. The way you responded there made me think that you where relieved to find someone who agreed with you. Glad to know that's not the case.

foleybumps
February 29th, 2008, 3:10 PM
How in anyway is Children of Men a poor film? Seriously?

Even if you didn't like the storyline, I'd say it's one of the most innovative pieces of film making I've seen in the past few years.

I think it's because I felt they could have done more with a novel set-up. What aspect of the film are you referring to when you say "innovative"? Not trying to be a dick, just wondering.


Lemmy, he asked if he was the only one who didn't like it. Hence my response.

Haha, I was actually a bit confused on that as well.

Cactus Lem
February 29th, 2008, 3:33 PM
I think it's because I felt they could have done more with a novel set-up. What aspect of the film are you referring to when you say "innovative"? Not trying to be a dick, just wondering.


The script in general with many of the ideas was something that seemed very original. Yeah we've seen plenty of terrorists before, but with the whole issue of time it seemed very unique.

The setting and actual urbn sets where phenomenal. One of the best battlegrounds I've ever seen created I think. The sheer broadness of the urban setting was impressive, especially what was basically a concentration camp (was it actually given a name?), which had such a cool gritty look to it that did a lot to enhance the general mood of the film.

Obviously the consistency and sheer length and ground covered in some of sequences that where covered in one shot, was an innovative and quite brilliantly executed piece of film making. 7 minutes keeping in one fucking shot while running around all over the place, and on different levels as well. How could you not be impressed? Basically made for some of the most exciting and tense action scenes I've ever seen, and to pull it off in such a way is a testament to the talent of all those involved.

I also liked a lot of the social points made throughout the film, that make you question the current society that we live in, as well as censorpship, imigration and potential coruption.

I thought it was unique seeing a dystopian Britian, something that I can't ever recall seeing, aside from 28 Days Later. I thought Children of Men pulled of the dystopian element a lot better though, in showing what is almost the ultimate failure of society.

The_Mike
February 29th, 2008, 9:10 PM
I feel the fighting continuing at the end makes perfect sense. These people aren't just killing each other because no-one can have babies. It's about greater issues of social control and a power struggle and all that, but neither side is stupid enough to blow up a baby when one suddenly appears in their midst.

The one-shot scenes were mind blowing, but also incredible in how much they fit. It didn't jar me at all to suddenly realise "we haven't changed angles in a while", it was a pleasant surprise but things were so intense that was just a quick thought that didn't drag me out of the film. It did several things I've just never seen done before.

Ricky
February 29th, 2008, 9:31 PM
Children of Men was great.

Just finished watching The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Was great, highlighted by Casey Affleck and some really awesome cinematography.

Also, Zooey Deschanel looking cute near the end of the movie.

Hulkamaniac
March 1st, 2008, 7:50 AM
Well, two things may have played a part in this: one, I was drinking; two, from the beginning I could tell this was one of those movies with a very lofty goal. That said, I will make time to watch it again in the next few days and I will let you know if anything changes.

I remember two things really bothering me, though. First was the denoument, the scene where all the shooting and bombing stops because the baby is crying. To someone who has never seen the movie before, that is probably a rather humorous description of a scene. It was to me as well, with this potentially powerful situation ruined by the ridiculous way in which it happened. On top of that, THE FIGHTING RESUMES ONCE THE CHILD IS GONE. Am I really the only one who thought that this was almost nonsensical? I mean, if "humanity" didn't see the error of their ways, then what is there for us to take away from the movie? Let's follow the plot:

The Build up:
I. People can no longer have children, therefore
II. There is no future for humanity, therefore
III. There is nothing to live for, therefore
IV. Lawlessness and civil unrest take over.

The Climax:
I. A newly born child is discovered, therefore
II. At least one person can have a child, therefore
III. There presumably is going to be a future for humanity, therefore
IV. Lawlessness and civil unrest cease to ensure the child's survival

The Conclusion
I. The civil unrest and fighting continue once the child is safe

That last one really ruins the symmetry of the film in my eyes, look:

(Scene is two people fighting)

Person 1: I'm going to kill you.
Person 2: Don't shoot, I think I hear a baby crying.
Person 1: Oh, you're right, let's let them through.
Person 2: What a cute baby.
Person 1: I guess there is hope for a better tomorrow
(baby leaves)
Person 1: Alright, the baby's gone, now I'm going to finish killing you.

Way to put an optimistic spin on humanity. And before anyone says that it would be unreasonable for them to forget their differences in the middle of fighting, I want to point out how unreasonable it is for them to all stop fighting for the crying baby, which they really shouldn't be able to hear.

This and the sung that played during the credits seemed so completely out of place for the way the movie ended that I actually lol'd.

Like I said, I will watch it again, but that probably will not change my opinion on the ending, assuming I remembered it correctly. Sorry in advance, Mik.

That is a very excellent post, you make very sensible points in a fair and even fashion. I completely understand them, though I dont necessarily think that the drink will have helped your interpretation at all. In fairness, its not supposed to be a hugely optimistic spin on humanity. To me, that scene is a clue that one child will not save humanity, the world has gone to ruin, it doesnt need 'saving' in needs rebuilding and one child will not necessarily do that. They are awestruck by it (hence the ceasing of violence momentarily), but ultimately it is just a temporary measure. If you notice, it is the rebellion who begin the fighting again, a rocket in launched from a window into an army tank and everyone reverts to type. The title of the film does allude to what I'm saying here. Children of Men comes from the bible quote:


"Lord, thou hast been our refuge: from one generation to another. Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever the earth and the world were made: thou art God from everlasting, and world without end. Thou turnest man to destruction: again thou sayest, Come again, ye children of men. For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday: Seeing that is past as a watch in the night".

My interpretation is that humanity has a habit of destroying itself, the child is the beginning of salvation. Which mixes in with your second point about the song at the end credits. I think of Kee and her child as being A story, ONE story. The laughter at the end and the sound of kids playing and having fun suggests to me that there were other stories, other people making their way to The Human Project. I thought of it as being like a Noah's Ark where humanity will be rebuilt and thus the laughter and the playfulness sculpts our interpretation into thinking that there is hope for this humanity because of the journeys that have been made to that boat, one of which we were privvy too.

Thats just my interpretation though.




The script in general with many of the ideas was something that seemed very original. Yeah we've seen plenty of terrorists before, but with the whole issue of time it seemed very unique.

The setting and actual urbn sets where phenomenal. One of the best battlegrounds I've ever seen created I think. The sheer broadness of the urban setting was impressive, especially what was basically a concentration camp (was it actually given a name?), which had such a cool gritty look to it that did a lot to enhance the general mood of the film.

Obviously the consistency and sheer length and ground covered in some of sequences that where covered in one shot, was an innovative and quite brilliantly executed piece of film making. 7 minutes keeping in one fucking shot while running around all over the place, and on different levels as well. How could you not be impressed? Basically made for some of the most exciting and tense action scenes I've ever seen, and to pull it off in such a way is a testament to the talent of all those involved.

I also liked a lot of the social points made throughout the film, that make you question the current society that we live in, as well as censorpship, imigration and potential coruption.

I thought it was unique seeing a dystopian Britian, something that I can't ever recall seeing, aside from 28 Days Later. I thought Children of Men pulled of the dystopian element a lot better though, in showing what is almost the ultimate failure of society.

This is also another exceptionally good post too. Children of Men is a wonderfully clever and innovative film, even if you did not enjoy it. The attention to detail is incredible. Just check out the IMDB Trivia page to see how:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0206634/trivia

Hulkamaniac
March 1st, 2008, 9:01 AM
On a different note, there is an exceptional deal on DVDs and suchlike at Play at the moment. Loads for a fiver. So far, I've earmarked all of the following, but I cant afford them all. Help me decide which to put back:

A Clockwork Orange (5.1) (Cult Classics Collection) (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


A Scanner Darkly (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00

As Good As It Gets (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00

Fargo: Special Edition (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00

Life Is Beautiful (La Vita e Bella) (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


Notes On A Scandal (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


Once Upon A Time In America - Special Edition (2 Discs) (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00

Stranger Than Fiction (2006) (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


Sunshine (2007) (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


The Basketball Diaries (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00

The Dreamers (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


The English Patient - Special Edition (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


The Good Shepherd (2006) (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


The Last Of The Mohicans (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00


The Science Of Sleep (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00

The Warriors: Ultimate Director's Cut (Region 2 DVD)
DVD Region 2

5.00

N.E.R.F.
March 1st, 2008, 9:03 AM
I feel the fighting continuing at the end makes perfect sense. These people aren't just killing each other because no-one can have babies. It's about greater issues of social control and a power struggle and all that, but neither side is stupid enough to blow up a baby when one suddenly appears in their midst.

The one-shot scenes were mind blowing, but also incredible in how much they fit. It didn't jar me at all to suddenly realise "we haven't changed angles in a while", it was a pleasant surprise but things were so intense that was just a quick thought that didn't drag me out of the film. It did several things I've just never seen done before.

You heard of Russian Ark?

Two hour movie - one camera, one take.

Hulkamaniac
March 1st, 2008, 9:12 AM
In fairness, there are lots of films with very long takes in them. Few have the long takes as complex as Children of Men. Admittedly, Russian Ark is an incredible achievement, but in all honesty, it has a very documentary feel to it. Its also fairly sloppy at times. Its also not the first movie to do such a thing. I consider a very action packed long take like those in Children of Men or Atonement to be more impressive than the long take in Russian Ark.

N.E.R.F.
March 1st, 2008, 9:16 AM
No the film isn't very good at all really.

The filming is quite impressive though.

Hulkamaniac
March 1st, 2008, 9:17 AM
Yeah. Also, the long shot in the car in Children of Men is incredible innovative. In that they invented a new machine for it.

The_Mike
March 1st, 2008, 2:19 PM
Mik, you should put back As Good as It Gets and Sunshine. The former is on Channel 4 every fortnight it seems, and the latter is just awful from everyone I've heard who has gone to see it.

I have seen other films with looong takes, though I've not heard of this Russian Ark. I might give it a look out of curiosity. But Children of Men, as Mik says, was doing long takes in the middle of very complex sequences which required incredible engineering to pull off. The complexities of setting that stuff up must've been enormous, and yet it seems so effortless on screen, to the point it just flows. The one in Atonement was really well done too, complete with incredible emotion. I like that in both you don't really have time to pause and reflect on the chaos that's going on, it just keeps coming without any interruption.

Jimmy Zero
March 1st, 2008, 2:46 PM
Sunshine was pretty god damn bad. I liked the first, like, half hour but after that, BOO! Some of the visuals are incredible, but the movie makes no sense and the twists are ridiculous.

I always liked that super long take of Ray Liotta and his wife rolling in to the restaurant in Goodfellas. At least, I think that was Goodfellas.

I steal cable
March 1st, 2008, 2:48 PM
Mik, you should put back As Good as It Gets and Sunshine. The former is on Channel 4 every fortnight it seems, and the latter is just awful from everyone I've heard who has gone to see it.

The site which I use to find out about cheap DVD's is this one (www.hdanddvdbargains.com), and just cause a film is played fortnightly doesn't mean you shouldn't have it in your collection. Educating Rita is played loads on Sky Movies but I wouldn't dream of it not being on my dvd shelf.

Cactus Lem
March 1st, 2008, 4:55 PM
I always liked that super long take of Ray Liotta and his wife rolling in to the restaurant in Goodfellas. At least, I think that was Goodfellas.

Yeah everything about that whole shot is awesome. Really adds to Henry Hill's character and status while being totally impressive.

Jimmy Zero
March 1st, 2008, 5:52 PM
What the fuck? (http://www.joblo.com/bkfast-club-remake)

For Christ's sake, the very premise of this remake completely kills the whole dynamic of the movie!

Ricky
March 1st, 2008, 7:26 PM
:lol:

It isn't even a remake.

Hulkamaniac
March 2nd, 2008, 9:00 AM
Yeah everything about that whole shot is awesome. Really adds to Henry Hill's character and status while being totally impressive.

Yeah. I think that it really helps you get into Karen's shoes too. The kind of intoxicating disorientation of power shows you how easy it was for her to fall for the lifestyle of such a dangerous world and man.

mth
March 2nd, 2008, 12:43 PM
Anyone besides me ever seen this?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5111QBYWJSL._SS500_.jpg

Jordo
March 2nd, 2008, 1:03 PM
I don't post here much, do a lot of lurking, but I just want to give foleybumb props for being a poster with few posts and with a different oppinion, and then intelligently stating their views, very refreshing.

I was expecting you to be an idiot...nope congrats...post more.

:beer:

and one for mik to and acknowledging the guy not being an idiot.

:beer:

I steal cable
March 2nd, 2008, 1:34 PM
I don't post here much, do a lot of lurking, but I just want to give foleybumb props for being a poster with few posts and with a different oppinion, and then intelligently stating their views, very refreshing.

I was expecting you to be an idiot...nope congrats...post more.

:beer:

and one for mik to and acknowledging the guy not being an idiot.

:beer:

I also want to give foleybumb props for his oppinion.

The fact that his post had more than 2 sentences put me off from reading it. I'm glad he has some more literate friends than me though (not that it's difficult - lol) that read through it all and appreciated his points of view. Fair play mate, fair play.

Bad Obsession
March 11th, 2008, 3:37 AM
Can anybody point me towards some great one take sequences from films? I'm looking for epic ones with great scale or intensity. I need some for my film studies.

Children of Men, Atonement and Oldboy are obviously the best examples that I have. Was just wondering if someone can bring some other cool ones to my attention. There are probably ones in films I've seen that I'm wasn't aware were just one take. :yes:

Edit: Wow, I should have read up a little bit. :$ Scary. Ha. The discussion only grabbed my attention as I was scrolling back up.

GeezaTap
March 11th, 2008, 4:55 AM
They are making a Crank 2. :)

Starring Jason Statham.

AS CHEV CHELIOS.

And yes, it takes place AFTER Crank 1. :lol:

House of Pancakes
March 11th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Can anybody point me towards some great one take sequences from films? I'm looking for epic ones with great scale or intensity. I need some for my film studies.

Children of Men, Atonement and Oldboy are obviously the best examples that I have. Was just wondering if someone can bring some other cool ones to my attention. There are probably ones in films I've seen that I'm wasn't aware were just one take. :yes:

Edit: Wow, I should have read up a little bit. :$ Scary. Ha. The discussion only grabbed my attention as I was scrolling back up.

You should look into Paul Thomas Anderson movies. Notably, Boogie Nights has a few amazing one-take shots, including the very first shot, which introduces pretty much everything in the movie. Magnolia has a big one in the game show studio, which is about three minutes long.

Also, maybe it's not as long or as chaotic, but I haven't seen many more poignant one-take scenes than the final scene of Truffaut's "The 400 Blows."

PurePlayer
March 11th, 2008, 1:23 PM
They are making a Crank 2. :)

Starring Jason Statham.

AS CHEV CHELIOS.

And yes, it takes place AFTER Crank 1. :lol:

What the hell? How are they going to do that?

Cewsh
March 11th, 2008, 1:33 PM
IT WAS ALL A DREAM!

Ricky
March 11th, 2008, 1:41 PM
In Crank 2, Chelios will face a Chinese mobster who has stolen his nearly indestructible heart and replaced it with a battery-powered heart that requires regular jolts of electricity to keep working.

What the fuck?

Hobbit
March 11th, 2008, 3:38 PM
Crank was amazing. Crank 2: HIGH VOLTAGE sounds arguably better than the first.

Statham not taking himself seriously in the absolute slightest = :yes:

Slare
March 11th, 2008, 4:36 PM
Can anybody point me towards some great one take sequences from films? I'm looking for epic ones with great scale or intensity. I need some for my film studies.

Children of Men, Atonement and Oldboy are obviously the best examples that I have. Was just wondering if someone can bring some other cool ones to my attention. There are probably ones in films I've seen that I'm wasn't aware were just one take. :yes:

Edit: Wow, I should have read up a little bit. :$ Scary. Ha. The discussion only grabbed my attention as I was scrolling back up.


Here's one.

Weekend by Jean-Luc-Goddard has a ten minute tracking scene along a traffic congested road. Absolutely MENTAL film.

Annette
March 11th, 2008, 5:07 PM
I ran across this recently, an email I wrote a year or so ago about my experience on the Dr. Phil show - thought some of you might find it amusing (or not):

Subject: Dr. Phil is good for one thing:

A free trip to Hollywood!

Back in 2003, I was reading on his webpage how they were looking for parents who were "concerned about their children's development" and, at the time, I was. My daughter was 9 months old and doing everything late (like 4 - 5 months after other babies her age, which is a huge difference at that age). I wrote them how I was concerned and, within 2 days, they were calling on the phone asking me if I could fly out that Monday to be on the show. Uhhh, sure? I took my mother-in-law and daughter with me. They flew us to Hollywood and put us up in a gorgeous hotel that was one block over from the Hollywood Walk of Fame. They also gave us a $500 food voucher for the hotel's room service. Seriously, how much did they think we were going to eat? We did manage to put away about $150 between the 3 of us, it's easy to do when a Continental Breakfast is $15.

As far as the actual show went, I wasn't on the stage but I was in the front row and did speak to Dr. Phil on the air. They taped it in August 2003 and didn't air it until September 2004. Want to hear what his "expert"'s advice was to me? "All kids grow in their own time, she'll be fine".

...

Are you shitting me? I already knew that. Thanks for wasting my time - but thanks for the free trip! On top of that, Dr. Phil mispronounced my daughter's name on air in front of millions of people. Her name is Shanley (Shan-Lee, rhymes with Stanley) but he called her Shane-Lee. Dumbass.

P.S. The worst part was what happened after the show: we got to have our pictures taken with Dr. Phil. My mother-in-law was on his right and I was on his left. Right before they were about to take the picture, I took over to smile at my MIL - and Dr. Phil is looking down her shirt. :lol: God damn pervert.

The_Mike
March 12th, 2008, 12:56 AM
I saw The Other Boleyn Girl today. It was decent, but they clearly cut a lot of scripted and shot material out because the editing was kind of jarring at times and plot strands were left unfinished, to the point where I imagine anyone who didn't read the book will be rather confused. The acting, costumes, and overall atmosphere were all very good though. Just a shame they seemed to cut at least a half hour of material for no apparent reason. It really damages what could have been a very good film.

But something I noticed, and have noticed at just about every film I've seen in the UK for the past couple of years, is that it didn't take up the whole screen. There seems to always be a 6 foot gap of darkness at either side of the screen whenever I see a film in the UK. Any idea why this is? It's not like the picture is cropped, we see everything, though the edges blur into the dark patches. But it's not as wide as it used to be. Last film I remember using the whole screen was The Return of the King.

This is just the UK, mind, over in the US any film I've seen has been the right size for the screen itself.

Mister J
March 12th, 2008, 1:21 AM
I have a dirty, dirty secret obsession.

America's Best Dance Crew.

:ashamed:

I don't even like dancing. I hate every other show so far like this; So You Think You Can Dance, Dancing W/ The Stars, etc. But something about this show hooks me in. I can't help it.

Kaba Modern and Jabbawockees will be the final two. Look 'em up on YouTube and you'll see what I mean.

I figured I'd put this in here. I had to get it out, but now I can move on in peace.

Annette
March 12th, 2008, 7:10 AM
Don't feel bad - I love it too... KM & JW have been an obvious final 2 since the very beginning.

ETA: Despite all their dances, I still love each groups' first dances we seen in the live audition.

JW: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OfB0HzPFeQw

KM: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fatPWNS0Kgg

Hobbit
March 12th, 2008, 7:19 AM
Can anybody point me towards some great one take sequences from films? I'm looking for epic ones with great scale or intensity. I need some for my film studies.

Here's a great one take sequence from 'The Protector'. It's probably the most impressive fight sequence I've ever seen. I'm not entirely sure if you could class it as 'epic' as I assume you mean huge environments with stunning details in the shot, but this is just technically amazing.

Bear in mind it's older than religion so you might've seen it, it's just a tip to help you out anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXIGP6_fNZk&feature=related

I steal cable
March 12th, 2008, 9:04 AM
Gridiron Gang is pretty good if you just fast foward most of the dialogue.

Dream-Evil
March 12th, 2008, 9:40 AM
Watched Once the other night. Nice little film, fantastic music. (it won the Oscar for Best Original Song)

Bad Obsession
March 12th, 2008, 1:08 PM
Here's a great one take sequence from 'The Protector'. It's probably the most impressive fight sequence I've ever seen. I'm not entirely sure if you could class it as 'epic' as I assume you mean huge environments with stunning details in the shot, but this is just technically amazing.

Bear in mind it's older than religion so you might've seen it, it's just a tip to help you out anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXIGP6_fNZk&feature=related
I can work that in perfectly, actually. :heart:
Cheers guys.

On the topic of Crank 2, I thought the first was ace so as long as the sequel has some really OTT stuff like it then I'll be happy.

I steal cable
March 12th, 2008, 2:04 PM
Here's a great one take sequence from 'The Protector'. It's probably the most impressive fight sequence I've ever seen. I'm not entirely sure if you could class it as 'epic' as I assume you mean huge environments with stunning details in the shot, but this is just technically amazing.

Bear in mind it's older than religion so you might've seen it, it's just a tip to help you out anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXIGP6_fNZk&feature=related

he wants his elephant back baaaaad

Cewsh
March 12th, 2008, 2:45 PM
Gridiron Gang is pretty good if you just fast foward most of the dialogue.

:yes:

Its incredibly by the numbers, but good for what it is.

Ace Rockola
March 12th, 2008, 10:16 PM
So that new Hulk trailer is kinda cool. Still looks fake as shit as he did in the first, but the battle with him and that Sandman looking thing at the end looks fun. Great cast too. Didn't know Tim Roth was in it.

Still not as amped as I am for Iron Man or Dark Knight.

Annette
March 12th, 2008, 10:36 PM
Anyone watch "Tin Man" that was on the Sci-Fi channel back on December? I just got it yesterday thanks to NetFlix and watched 2/3 of it today. It's basically a sci-fi modern spin on Wizard of Oz and featured Zooey Deschanel, Alan Cumming, Neal McDonough, Richard Dreyfuss and others. It hasn't been too bad so far!

Ricky
March 13th, 2008, 4:01 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/6921259/standardformat/

:eek:

This looks terrifying. That part with Liv in the kitchen is absolutely chilling.

Morrison
March 13th, 2008, 4:05 PM
You scare easily.

Hulkamaniac
March 13th, 2008, 7:25 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/6921259/standardformat/

:eek:

This looks terrifying. That part with Liv in the kitchen is absolutely chilling.

You're a bit silly sometimes.

The_Mike
March 13th, 2008, 8:18 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/6921259/standardformat/

:eek:

This looks terrifying. That part with Liv in the kitchen is absolutely chilling.

It terrified me until I realised it was just a guy in a ski-mask. Bleh. That's not very scary. What I want is a film that just has random stuff, figures and objects constantly floating around the scenes, unseen by characters much of the time and just a little quick for you to quite focus on, but you know it's there and your imagination tells you all sorts of things. Well, not constantly or you'd get used to it, but you know what I mean.

That's what I thought it was at first, a disembodied head just floating through the door, but then I saw more clearly. Dang.

Pablo Diablo
March 13th, 2008, 8:31 PM
Anyone watch "Tin Man" that was on the Sci-Fi channel back on December? I just got it yesterday thanks to NetFlix and watched 2/3 of it today. It's basically a sci-fi modern spin on Wizard of Oz and featured Zooey Deschanel, Alan Cumming, Neal McDonough, Richard Dreyfuss and others. It hasn't been too bad so far!

Yeah I watched it. I found most of the acting to be sub-par. The plot was decent enough and I enjoyed the whole thing. But...wasn't that blown away.

Jimmy Zero
March 13th, 2008, 9:24 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/premieres/6921259/standardformat/

:eek:

This looks terrifying. That part with Liv in the kitchen is absolutely chilling.

Get your head out of your ass. Fucking really, man.

Ricky
March 13th, 2008, 10:49 PM
:cry:

I thought it was creepy.

On other things, I just finished Gone Baby Gone. Brilliant stuff.

Annette
March 13th, 2008, 10:54 PM
Yeah I watched it. I found most of the acting to be sub-par. The plot was decent enough and I enjoyed the whole thing. But...wasn't that blown away.

Yeah, I just finished it up today and it was OK - had potential but a lot of it was wasted. For one thing, I can't stand Kathleen Robertson and I don't buy her acting at all.

RockOverBoston
March 13th, 2008, 11:49 PM
Kathleen Robertson = Claire from "90210", right? (yeah, 'twas a guilty pleasure -- we've all got 'em)

She was pretty easy on the eyes sometimes, but yeah, not a good actress whatsoever.

Then again, she was a featured player on the show that fired Hilary fucking Swank and prominently featured Tori Spelling for a full decade, so acting ability pretty clearly meant fuck-all anyway.

Annette
March 14th, 2008, 12:01 AM
That be the one. Damn her and her stupid tit monkeys!! (Like in the original WOO, there were flying monkeys in this one... they popped out of Kathleen's boobs whenever she needed them, you can see the tattoos in the picture).

http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20071204/425.robertson.tinman.120407.jpg

RockOverBoston
March 14th, 2008, 12:15 AM
Nice to see she's still got the whole "sometimes hot, sometimes not" thing going for her, anyway...

RockOverBoston
March 14th, 2008, 11:55 PM
...and, ironically enough, quite possibly some stable work lined up.

Due in no small part to the resurgence in mainstream popularity Jennie Garth and Ian Ziering have recieved since their appearances on ABC's "Dancing With The Stars", "Veronica Mars" creator Rob Thomas is in negotiations to create a spin-off/follow-up series to the popular 90's series "Beverly Hills, 90210" for the CW, featuring as much of the original series' cast as he can sign, most of whom, according to Thomas "have expressed serious interest".

OF COURSE THEY HAVE -- what the fuck else are any of them not named Hilary Swank actually doing with themselves these days other than dancing and spitting out kids?

What truly makes this the dumbest idea ever is the fact that most of that cast looked far too old to be in high school or college nearly 20 years ago. I'm guessing the series would pick up with them all in their early-to-mid-30's. Few of them actually are, and some aren't even close -- I'm looking at you, "Andrea".

I'd think TV is now officially out of new ideas, but sooner than later, "Who Wants To Make A Deal To Kill Their Brother?" and "That 90's Show" will prove me wrong.

Jimmy Zero
March 15th, 2008, 12:10 AM
Fuck you, dude. 90210 was hilarious! I'll be all over that shit if Dylan comes back.

Annette
March 15th, 2008, 12:13 AM
Wow... I hope they manage to clean up Luke Perry, he's looking every one of his 42 years - and then some.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2310/1120lukeperry2fmpd2.jpg

He used to be hot... :cry:

RockOverBoston
March 15th, 2008, 12:33 AM
Fuck you, dude. 90210 was hilarious! I'll be all over that shit if Dylan comes back.

As you may recall, Dylan did come back, and I don't think anyone was all over that shit.

Luke Perry as a dark minister on "OZ" was one of the most unintentionally hilarious characters ever.

If they insist on doing this, then I insist that they must leave the cheezy theme song alone. No "new millenium remix" bullshit.

Jimmy Zero
March 15th, 2008, 1:49 AM
Hell yes! That song was sah-weet. They should just make a Brenda show. Goldmine.

Jesus. Dylan looks pretty long in the forehead.

Ace Rockola
March 16th, 2008, 1:43 AM
Anybody here hear of a movie called Funny Games? The girl I'm seeing right now pushed it on me and quite frankly I had zero idea what it was. I'm not sure if it was GOOD, but it was fun as shit.

And I never really noticed Naomi Watts before, but, hey now.

PurePlayer
March 16th, 2008, 8:21 AM
Yeah I actually just saw preview for it a couple days ago. It was the first and only time I saw a commercial for it. I actually thought it looked decent enough for a watch. May have to check it out.

Hero!
March 16th, 2008, 12:20 PM
Watching Wayne world's 2 now, man I forgot how awesome this movie is.

House of Pancakes
March 16th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Oh man, the sequel gets so overlooked, it's amazing.

Jordo
March 16th, 2008, 12:42 PM
So I watched all the Lord of the Ring movies as they came out in theaters, and I was really underwhelmed, just stumbled across my unopened copy of Fellowship of the Ring, just wondering if maybe it'd be worth my time to give them another chance maybe.

Hulkamaniac
March 16th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Yes.

RockOverBoston
March 16th, 2008, 12:52 PM
Anybody here hear of a movie called Funny Games? The girl I'm seeing right now pushed it on me and quite frankly I had zero idea what it was. I'm not sure if it was GOOD, but it was fun as shit.

It's really getting a lot of good reviews now, and the trailer I saw for it looked really entertaining. Probably the next movie I'll go see in the theatre.

Should do fairly well, too, as in addition to the critical acclaim and the big-ish television ad campaign, the trailer has been attatched to some of the bigger new DVD releases. It opens the "Michael Clayton" DVD, if memory serves.

Also, since at the very least Ace will be glad to hear it (and really, all the rest of you should as well) the DVD release date for Walk Hard : The Dewey Cox Story has been set for April 8th.

Being a big enough fan of music where I actually got and appreciated a bunch of the references that I've no doubt flew right over the heads of many and a fan of effective "spoof" movies as well, I fucking loved this movie. What's more, the original trailer for it is absolutely riddled with scenes that weren't in the movie (and in many cases don't make any sense to those who have seen it) so I've got no doubt this'll be a disc loaded with special features.

Didn't fare well at the box office - at all. The DVD release is more than likely going to be a completely different story. Put it on your Netflix lists now, you shouldn't be disappointed.

The_Mike
March 16th, 2008, 4:04 PM
That's a damn shame Walk Hard didn't do well at the box office. It was terrific. It must have been utterly loaded with references though, since I got a huge number myself despite having only a rudimentary knowledge of the music scene and its history. I saw Walk On of course so the references to that were obvious but I got a load more as well.

Even my girlfriend, who has very little interest in music, found it really funny.

Jimmy Zero
March 16th, 2008, 4:16 PM
Maybe you guys liked precisely because you aren't that in to music?

Most people I know thought it was shit.

Of course, I then read ROB's post after I posted this.

Hulkamaniac
March 16th, 2008, 4:24 PM
I thought that it looked utterly dire. Dont know anyone who saw it. Havent heard any good things about it.

I'm surprised to hear that this might not be the case.

RockOverBoston
March 16th, 2008, 4:52 PM
That's a damn shame Walk Hard didn't do well at the box office. It was terrific. It must have been utterly loaded with references though, since I got a huge number myself despite having only a rudimentary knowledge of the music scene and its history.

That's the thing -- in a movie absolutely riddled with musical references of all different kinds, for every blatant one, there were another two that were substantially more subtle.


I thought that it looked utterly dire.

I'm not entirely convinced that wasn't the point for some reason -- the trailer and promos were so far from the actual film itself that I'm led to actually wonder why. Perhaps they were trying to let the Apatow name alone sell this film while giving absolutely nothing away. If so, the latter part of such a plan worked, the former didn't whatsoever.

IMDB voters rank it at a 7/10 and Rotten Tomatoes scores it at 75%, which is pretty much in line if a small smidge lower than the bulk of the critical reviews I'd seen for it prior to its release...the Entertainment Weekly consensus of 12 of the top American film critics (and themselves) was a B-, probably about what I'd rate the theatrical release myself if removing my pro-music bias from the equation.

The biggest, and by far the most prevelant knock on the film from both viewers and critics is that "it's not as good as 40 Year Old Virgin/Knocked Up/Superbad", but that's in some way their own faults -- this is a different kind of movie altogether than the rest of the Apatow franchise and probably shouldn't have been held up to the same standards. Second biggest knock is that it lags toward its finish in the final third, which I can't really disagree with whatsoever.

Others seem to think that someone other than Reilly - Will Ferrell in particular - would have made for a better actor to cast in the lead role, but I couldn't disagree with that more.

The DVD looks quite promising -- the soundtrack itself was quite funny, the length of the film led me to believe that there'd have to be countless deleted scenes, and again, with the trailer being so purposely bizarre, misleading and riddled with definite outtakes, there'll be tons of side material.

Even those I know who knocked the movie didn't flat-out trash it, and they all weren't without things that they liked about it. Its critical detractors were similar in their semi-bad reviews, but those were outnumbered by reviews that were either good or good-leaning.

PurePlayer
March 16th, 2008, 4:59 PM
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Ricky
March 16th, 2008, 6:51 PM
Watching Wayne world's 2 now, man I forgot how awesome this movie is.

Saw that earlier as well. Couldn't stop laughing at the Del bits.

KorruptJustice
March 16th, 2008, 7:16 PM
Just saw Shoot 'Em Up for the first time last night and I thought it was a really fun movie. Clive Owen and Paul Giamatti were both awesome in it, and the shooting scenes were so ridiculously over the top that we couldn't stop laughing.

Also saw Hitman, and it's probably just because I went into that film with really low expectations, but it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be. It still wasn't anywhere close to being a good movie, and I still wish that someone else had been cast as Agent 47, but it was a decent way of passing a couple of hours.

Also rented Gone Baby Gone and 30 Days of Night, so I'll watch them in the next day or two. I wanted to get No Counrty for Old Men, but all the copies were already gone.