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Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 12:25 AM
Iron Man is so much better than Spiderman 2 it's not funny.

In fact, the Spiderman franchise has been a bitter disappointment.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 12:28 AM
You need new friends.

It is more of an unknown gem than it is underrated though. Everyone who has seen it loves it. One of the last proper good roles that each actor has done.

Captain Jack, Mort Rainey, Agent Sands and Ichabod Crane are all great roles. It really is a matter of taste and personal preferences, but Depp's role selection is impecable.

PurePlayer
December 9th, 2008, 12:30 AM
I thought Pacino was pretty good in Insomnia. Was that just me?

EdgeHead469
December 9th, 2008, 12:49 AM
I thought Pacino was pretty good in Insomnia. Was that just me?

I liked him. I also think Swank was very good in that movie.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 2:49 AM
I saw Keeping the Faith for the first time since its theatrical release last night.

Yes... THAT Keeping the Faith.

I left the theatre (what, 10 years ago now?) absolutely loving it. And wasn't sure if I was just in the right mood for it, or if it was geniunly a good film. So, I saw it in a 3 for $20 bargain bin a little while ago, and couldn't help but pick it up (together with Gangs of New York, and Catch me if You Can. - Not a bad little 3 pack for a $20 if I say so myself).

My mum, sister, her husband, my fiance, my dad and I were all around and keen for a film so I figured I'd chuck that in as a "something everyone can enjoy" film. So, watched it again for the first time in a long time, and really liked it again. Really fun, doesn't take itself too seriously. And I think I could watch Ed Norton for weeks. He has a way of engrossing you and making you engage.

Hulkamaniac
December 9th, 2008, 4:24 AM
What do you mean by proper good roles? Does the first Pirates movie not count?


Captain Jack, Mort Rainey, Agent Sands and Ichabod Crane are all great roles. It really is a matter of taste and personal preferences, but Depp's role selection is impecable.


I thought Pacino was pretty good in Insomnia. Was that just me?

"ONE OF THE last proper good roles". Captain Jack is fine and a good performance, however, its a gimmick character. Depp's role choices arent impeccable at all. For starters he's largely hindered a good serious career by going along with this silly notion of working on every Tim Burton film.

Marlon Dingle
December 9th, 2008, 4:36 AM
No questions asked Raoul Duke aka Hunter S. Thompson, is Depp's best performance, in my opinion.

Cactus Lem
December 9th, 2008, 7:09 AM
Iron Man is so much better than Spiderman 2 it's not funny.

In fact, the Spiderman franchise has been a bitter disappointment.

I think you're completley wrong. Spiderman 2 is the best Marvel film to date if you ask me, from it's simplistic but awesome time capturing cinematography, to some of the best action scenes of the decade, to it's awesome casting, I honestly don't think Marvel will ever top Spiderman 2.

I liked Iron Man, but I've said it time and time again, I just can't believe the love it gets. I came out of the film thinking, solid Marvel fare, then come on the internet and see people going crazy over it acting as if it's one of the years best movies, and almost up there with The Dark Knight, when really, it isn't even close.

EdgeHead469
December 9th, 2008, 8:04 AM
I think you're completley wrong. Spiderman 2 is the best Marvel film to date if you ask me, from it's simplistic but awesome time capturing cinematography, to some of the best action scenes of the decade, to it's awesome casting, I honestly don't think Marvel will ever top Spiderman 2.

I liked Iron Man, but I've said it time and time again, I just can't believe the love it gets. I came out of the film thinking, solid Marvel fare, then come on the internet and see people going crazy over it acting as if it's one of the years best movies, and almost up there with The Dark Knight, when really, it isn't even close.

As much as I liked Spiderman 2, there is just something about Robert Downey that added to the character and I thoughly enjoyed every part of that movie from the opening scene all the way to the end.

I would say Downey, Jr. is the best role in any marvel comic but for me I perfer Spider Man 2 over Iron Man. I still think the Incredible Hulk was pretty amazing also. Marvel has not made a bad film that I can think of with the exception of Spiderman 3.

Cactus Lem
December 9th, 2008, 8:20 AM
As much as I liked Spiderman 2, there is just something about Robert Downey that added to the character and I thoughly enjoyed every part of that movie from the opening scene all the way to the end.

I would say Downey, Jr. is the best role in any marvel comic but for me I perfer Spider Man 2 over Iron Man. I still think the Incredible Hulk was pretty amazing also. Marvel has not made a bad film that I can think of with the exception of Spiderman 3.

Yeah I agree that Downey Jr basically made the film his, and overall the film was cast very well with Terrence Howard and Jeff Bridges being great support guys, but I didn't feel that Iron Man was anywhere close to being as creativley alive or aware as Spiderman 2 was, plus I didn't think it had anywhere near as much character depth, and used a lot of short cuts to achieve its aims.

KorruptJustice
December 9th, 2008, 8:26 AM
As much as I liked Spiderman 2, there is just something about Robert Downey that added to the character and I thoughly enjoyed every part of that movie from the opening scene all the way to the end.

I would say Downey, Jr. is the best role in any marvel comic but for me I perfer Spider Man 2 over Iron Man. I still think the Incredible Hulk was pretty amazing also. Marvel has not made a bad film that I can think of with the exception of Spiderman 3.

I pretty much agree with this. I preferred RDJ as Iron Man more than I did Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man, but overall I would still say that SM2 was the better movie.

I really don't see how it can be claimed that the Spider-Man franchise has been a dissapointment. Yeah, the third one sucked, but the first one was good, and the second one is considered by most to be even better. Yeah, neither of them reached the greatness of the previous two Batman movies, but no superhero movie has reached those heights, so you can't hold it against the Spider-Mann franchise.

Hulkamaniac
December 9th, 2008, 8:51 AM
Certainly no financial disappointment.

PurePlayer
December 9th, 2008, 9:57 AM
Marvel has not made a bad film that I can think of with the exception of Spiderman 3.

There has actually been quite a few Marvel films that were bad. Elektra, Daredevil, Fantastic Four(first one, I liked the Silver Surfer one).

EdgeHead469
December 9th, 2008, 12:14 PM
There has actually been quite a few Marvel films that were bad. Elektra, Daredevil, Fantastic Four(first one, I liked the Silver Surfer one).

True. I really did not even think of those when typing that up earlier. I had fun watching the Fantastic 4 movies but they were by no means on the level of Spiderman 1, 2, Iron Man and Hulk.

Marlon Dingle
December 9th, 2008, 12:20 PM
The first fantastic four movie sucked balls, never bothered with the second since the first one was that bad. Even Jessica Alba couldn't sway be back for the second one.

Cactus Lem
December 9th, 2008, 3:14 PM
Fantastic Four was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Horrible stuff.

mth
December 9th, 2008, 3:19 PM
I have to agree that, while I enjoyed Iron Man quite a bit, Spider-Man 2 was superior, and in my mind, is the best Marvel film as of yet (at least that I've seen). I don't really see the Wolverine flick topping it, either. Maybe the Magneto flick could, though...

I was tempted to see the second FF movie because Silver Surfer seemed incredibly badass in the trailers, but never got around to it. Should I bother?

Ace Rockola
December 9th, 2008, 3:26 PM
Iron Man was fantastic. It's fantastic for the reason that it's just very simple. It doesn't try to over shoot for anything. It just goes for the notes it needs to hit to establish things and does them very well. As good as it is, I could never argue for it being anything other than simple. Any of us could have come up with the outline for that script.

The real test is going to be the second film, and if the crew can up the ante past a good origin story.

PurePlayer
December 9th, 2008, 3:51 PM
Iron Man was fantastic. It's fantastic for the reason that it's just very simple. It doesn't try to over shoot for anything. It just goes for the notes it needs to hit to establish things and does them very well. As good as it is, I could never argue in for it being anything other than simple. Any of us could have come up with the outline for that script.

The real test is going to be the second film, and if the crew can up the ante past a good origin story.

It reminded of Batman Begins in certain ways. Great origin stories with nothing too groundbreaking or over the top, and like you said it's going to depend on the second film in this series. The Dark Knight exceeded everyone's expectations by producing a potential movie of the year. We'll see how Iron Man 2 does.

Ace Rockola
December 9th, 2008, 3:53 PM
And lets not forget, there's a lot riding on Iron Man 2. If it stinks, the Avengers film could be fucked. It's already bad enough people are indifferent to the last Hulk film.

PurePlayer
December 9th, 2008, 4:26 PM
I doubt it would stink with the people involved. I think it's the Captain America and Thor films they should worry about. Also the Incredible Hulk wasn't bad by any means. It was definitely better than the original Hulk film.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 5:15 PM
"ONE OF THE last proper good roles". Captain Jack is fine and a good performance, however, its a gimmick character.

Being gimmicky doesn't stop a role from being good, at all. I'd say there's something in your construction of the term 'proper' that I'm missing. But the roles I mentioned ARE good roles. And, good performances. They aren't mutually exclusive.


Depp's role choices arent impeccable at all. For starters he's largely hindered a good serious career by going along with this silly notion of working on every Tim Burton film.

For starters, he hasn't worked on every Tim Burton film. And, he has chosen the one's he has worked on well.

Secondly, the partnership hasn't hindered either of them in the slightest. In fact it's been mutually beneficial and the partnership is greater than the sum of it's parts. Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sleepy Hollow, Sweeny Todd, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, and even Corpse Bride, were great for both parties. And none of those films did any harm to Depp's repuation like you seem to allege.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 5:16 PM
Certainly no financial disappointment.

Didn't mean financial. But they have dropped the ball immensley on what was a fairly solid foundation.

It's been steeply downhill since the first film.

Ace Rockola
December 9th, 2008, 5:36 PM
I doubt it would stink with the people involved. I think it's the Captain America and Thor films they should worry about. Also the Incredible Hulk wasn't bad by any means. It was definitely better than the original Hulk film.

Yeah, but you could say the same thing about Spider-Man 3. And look at how the people who gave us the first two messed that up.

And I didn't find Hulk bad either and prefer it to the first, I just won't run out and buy the DVD like Iron Man.

Thor and Cap are ones to worry about too for sure. Probably Cap more than any cause his film comes out the same summer.

PurePlayer
December 9th, 2008, 6:32 PM
I really have to see Ed Wood and Edward Scissorhands. I just never got around to seeing them.

Hulkamaniac
December 9th, 2008, 6:46 PM
Being gimmicky doesn't stop a role from being good, at all. I'd say there's something in your construction of the term 'proper' that I'm missing. But the roles I mentioned ARE good roles. And, good performances. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Well, it kind of does when you continue that role and make it a parody of what the role originally was, or when you seem like you're getting typecast for always playing that kind of role. Burton and Depp are typecast, particularly when working together now because its always the same thing over and over again, dark a little gothic, a bit kooky. That type of thing has a hardcore fanbase (like Quentin Tarantino's) that will keep them getting high votes and DECENT box office, but it is certainly grating.




For starters, he hasn't worked on every Tim Burton film. And, he has chosen the one's he has worked on well.

No...just 8 of the last 12 and 5 of the last 5.


Secondly, the partnership hasn't hindered either of them in the slightest. In fact it's been mutually beneficial and the partnership is greater than the sum of it's parts. Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sleepy Hollow, Sweeny Todd, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, and even Corpse Bride, were great for both parties. And none of those films did any harm to Depp's repuation like you seem to allege.

I'd disagree actually. Johnny Depp took off hugely because of his incredible box office draw on POTC. Before that he has done some shit, but he's a very good actor. However, if you look at his filmography, since he first established himself as a credible actor (probably around Ed Wood and Donnie Brasco actually) his work with Tim Burton has generally been some of the weakest and most 'samey' stuff that he's done. Whenever he works with Burton, they are both type-cast as weird, quaint, kooky, silly, gothic. This came to a head with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory where the film and his performance was quite widely derrided outside of the Tim Burton fanboy fanbase.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 6:47 PM
Anyone who hasn't seen Ed Wood should be banned from posting in any thread about or even remotely touching upon film.

Hulkamaniac
December 9th, 2008, 6:49 PM
Ridiculous comments.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 7:09 PM
I meant it 100% literally mate.

Hulkamaniac
December 9th, 2008, 7:17 PM
You're a madman. Ed Wood isnt even all that good. Mentalist.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 7:32 PM
Why do you say these hurtful things?

I think you'll find it's actually quite fantastic. And your hatred of Burton fanboys is clouding your better judgment.

Fro
December 9th, 2008, 10:13 PM
I thought Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was terrible from start to finish. Granted my love of the original film may have had some effect on that, but I really don't see how adult viewers can enjoy it.

Depp and Burton have made a good team for the most part but the act is definitely wearing thin and Mik's right that it seems like the same sort of character every go-round. Depp is such a good actor that you wonder what roles he is passing up to be Wonka or the Mad Hatter. I'd rather see him in more serious films, but even without Burton he's been doing a number of PG movies lately so that seems to be something he enjoys.

Haven't seen Sweeney Todd yet but I do plan to.

Version 6
December 9th, 2008, 10:15 PM
He's stated a couple of times that he's more inclined to consider roles in films that his children can watch.

Dubya
December 9th, 2008, 10:18 PM
That makes sense to me. He wants his kids to be able to see what he does. Probably not a good thing for them to be watching Blow or Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Fro
December 9th, 2008, 10:21 PM
Yeah and he certainly has the right to do whatever films he wants.

Looks like his next one to come out will be Public Enemies with Christian Bale and Michael Mann. Should be good. I don't love Mann but Heat and Ali were great. I need to rewatch Mohicans as I only saw it once several years ago.

PurePlayer
December 9th, 2008, 10:56 PM
Mann is a top notch director if you ask me, just based on how great Heat was.

alec empire
December 9th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Yeah and he certainly has the right to do whatever films he wants.

Looks like his next one to come out will be Public Enemies with Christian Bale and Michael Mann. Should be good. I don't love Mann but Heat and Ali were great. I need to rewatch Mohicans as I only saw it once several years ago.


That sounds pretty cool. I would love to see what Depp and Bale would be playing sharing the same bill and being directed by Michael Mann:yes: Plus like Heat (one of my favorites as well) I'm sure the work these two will be just as unique and as powerfull as Deniro and Pacino.

But when it comes to what you guys were discussing before with Burton/ Depp, though I'm a huge fan of Johny and his work with Burton so many times, but it's gone so stale, and I'm really bored of Burton only using Depp for every single project, it almost looks like he has it for Depp in more than just his acting abillities. I'm just saying, I know directors have their favorites, but just because the scripts and even the roles are different, their films as a whole end up looking the same.

If Depp wants to stick to family rated films, good for him it's his choice. Plus he's so good at his diverse roles he can get away with it, even if the film itself might be weak. But I would like to see him shy away from Tim Burton and work with other solid directors, or newbies who have some great ideas to film. Me personally I would love to see Depp work with Catherine Hardwicke (Lords of Dogtown, Nativity Story, Twilight). Like him, she has an wide range of different tastes, and it would be cool to see these two gell in a project. Gus Van Sant would be interesting as well.

Hulkamaniac
December 10th, 2008, 4:26 AM
Why do you say these hurtful things?

I think you'll find it's actually quite fantastic. And your hatred of Burton fanboys is clouding your better judgment.

I think that the fact you're a Burton fanboy is probably clouding yours.


Yeah and he certainly has the right to do whatever films he wants.

Looks like his next one to come out will be Public Enemies with Christian Bale and Michael Mann. Should be good. I don't love Mann but Heat and Ali were great. I need to rewatch Mohicans as I only saw it once several years ago.

Depp has gotten exceptional early reviews for his role in this. Which does make me wish that he'd steer away from the 'weird' roles more often.


Mann is a top notch director if you ask me, just based on how great Heat was.

Why base it just on how great Heat was? Collateral, The Insider (possibly his best film) and Last of the Mohicans are all great.

PurePlayer
December 10th, 2008, 10:13 AM
Why base it just on how great Heat was? Collateral, The Insider (possibly his best film) and Last of the Mohicans are all great.

I'm just saying if he never did another movie after Heat, I would still consider him a top notch director. Of course, all of those movies you listed were great. As for the Insider, I think you found a movie that Pacino was good in after his role in Donnie Brasco.

EdgeHead469
December 10th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Yeah and he certainly has the right to do whatever films he wants.

Looks like his next one to come out will be Public Enemies with Christian Bale and Michael Mann. Should be good. I don't love Mann but Heat and Ali were great. I need to rewatch Mohicans as I only saw it once several years ago.

I love Mike Mann. I loved Collateral, Ali and Heat. Miami Vice was a fun watch for me and Kingdom of Heaven was also pretty solid. I really like his camera angles and shooting scenes. The whole thing seems so realistic.

I can not wait for Public Enemies. Bale and Depp should be, well, immense.

alec empire
December 10th, 2008, 2:16 PM
From his best to his worst, Mike Mann's work as a whole is AMAZING! Though many dissed, his take on Miami Vice was brilliant, and I can't say enough good things about movies like Heat, Ali, and LOTM :)

Hulkamaniac
December 10th, 2008, 4:37 PM
I'm just saying if he never did another movie after Heat, I would still consider him a top notch director. Of course, all of those movies you listed were great. As for the Insider, I think you found a movie that Pacino was good in after his role in Donnie Brasco.

I never claimed that Pacino didnt do a good film after Donnie Brasco. He's done a few.


I love Mike Mann. I loved Collateral, Ali and Heat. Miami Vice was a fun watch for me and Kingdom of Heaven was also pretty solid. I really like his camera angles and shooting scenes. The whole thing seems so realistic.

I can not wait for Public Enemies. Bale and Depp should be, well, immense.

Kingdom of Heaven is Ridley Scott. You're probably thinking of The Kingdom. Which he produced, but did not direct.

PurePlayer
December 10th, 2008, 5:03 PM
Originally Posted by Mik
It is more of an unknown gem than it is underrated though. Everyone who has seen it loves it. One of the last proper good roles that each actor has done.

Maybe I misunderstood this post. I guess I took that out of context in thinking last good role instead of one of the last good roles.

Hulkamaniac
December 10th, 2008, 5:21 PM
Not so much misunderstanding as simply not reading properly mate.

Version 6
December 10th, 2008, 5:25 PM
I think that the fact you're a Burton fanboy is probably clouding yours.

Maybe. In fact, almost definitely with pretty much most of his films.

But not Ed Wood, which is a geniunly fantastic film. If you don't regard it highly, you are in the minority.

Cactus Lem
December 10th, 2008, 7:22 PM
It reminded of Batman Begins in certain ways. Great origin stories with nothing too groundbreaking or over the top, and like you said it's going to depend on the second film in this series. The Dark Knight exceeded everyone's expectations by producing a potential movie of the year. We'll see how Iron Man 2 does.

Batman Begins was very different to Iron Man. Yes they are both origin stories of popular coming book characters, but the way each story is handled is different in a massive way.

Batman Begins has huge amounts of depth and covers every single little detail, the film is incrdibly subtle with it's telling of Bruce Wayne's origin and development as a character, whereas Iron Man cuts corners and does things in a simplisitc manner. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, because it worked, but when it comes to sheer depth Batman Begins is a thourough and deep groundbreaking origin story in many ways, whereas Iron Man is a basic and fun origin story.

foleybumps
December 10th, 2008, 8:16 PM
Captain Jack, Mort Rainey, Agent Sands and Ichabod Crane are all great roles. It really is a matter of taste and personal preferences, but Depp's role selection is impecable.

I'm Depp fan as well, but he did do "The Man Who Cried", so that would have to put the whole "impecable" thing out of reach.

Version 6
December 10th, 2008, 8:41 PM
If we're being technical, he also did Freddy's Dead...

EdgeHead469
December 10th, 2008, 9:19 PM
Yeah I meant The Kingdom. Sorry, I just finished watching Kingdom of Heaven when I wrote that up. But The Kingdom; even though produced by him, still had that Mann feel to it in the action scenes and camera shots.

Hulkamaniac
December 11th, 2008, 4:21 AM
Yeah I meant The Kingdom. Sorry, I just finished watching Kingdom of Heaven when I wrote that up. But The Kingdom; even though produced by him, still had that Mann feel to it in the action scenes and camera shots.

Directors Cut of Kingdom of Heaven?

Marlon Dingle
December 11th, 2008, 6:14 AM
I'm Depp fan as well, but he did do "The Man Who Cried", so that would have to put the whole "impecable" thing out of reach.


Did you ever see 9th gate. Seriously WTF was that about?

EdgeHead469
December 11th, 2008, 7:32 AM
Directors Cut of Kingdom of Heaven?

Yes sir, 2 disc special. Cost me a little bit extra but my god it was lovely. I did not think I would like it that much but I loved it. Gladiator is one of my favorite movies so I figured I would give this a try and I am glad I did.

PurePlayer
December 11th, 2008, 12:22 PM
Batman Begins was very different to Iron Man. Yes they are both origin stories of popular coming book characters, but the way each story is handled is different in a massive way.

Batman Begins has huge amounts of depth and covers every single little detail, the film is incrdibly subtle with it's telling of Bruce Wayne's origin and development as a character, whereas Iron Man cuts corners and does things in a simplisitc manner. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, because it worked, but when it comes to sheer depth Batman Begins is a thourough and deep groundbreaking origin story in many ways, whereas Iron Man is a basic and fun origin story.

I am not too familiar with Iron Man's origins, but it didn't seem like they cut corners. I wouldn't really know I guess.

Marlon Dingle
December 12th, 2008, 4:21 AM
Thinking of going to see Changeling tonight. Can anyone give me a quick synopsis of what they thought of it?

Cactus Lem
December 12th, 2008, 5:33 AM
Yeah I meant The Kingdom. Sorry, I just finished watching Kingdom of Heaven when I wrote that up. But The Kingdom; even though produced by him, still had that Mann feel to it in the action scenes and camera shots.

The Kingdom was fucking shit.


I am not too familiar with Iron Man's origins, but it didn't seem like they cut corners. I wouldn't really know I guess.

I'm not overly familair with them, but compared to just how deep the evolution of Bruce Wayne is in Begins, as well as the emotional connection that develops with the character due to just how tough and painful the early scenes feel, it out-does Iron Man in every way.

Thirteen
December 12th, 2008, 7:02 AM
Thinking of going to see Changeling tonight. Can anyone give me a quick synopsis of what they thought of it?

My wife and I tried to go see it when it first came out, but it never came out in any of the theaters nearby. We would have had to drive about 45 minutes up the road to see it, and we weren't interested in doing that.

I did hear good things about it from friends that went to see it.

EdgeHead469
December 12th, 2008, 11:11 AM
The Kingdom was fucking shit.

I enjoyed it. Say I have bad taste or whatever but I thought it was a good movie. Not great, but good.

It had a very fun ending action scene, good characters, Jaime Foxx was wonderful in his role and I liked everything about it. I am a sucker for Middle Eastern based movies also.

Cactus Lem
December 12th, 2008, 12:49 PM
I enjoyed it. Say I have bad taste or whatever but I thought it was a good movie. Not great, but good.

It had a very fun ending action scene, good characters, Jaime Foxx was wonderful in his role and I liked everything about it. I am a sucker for Middle Eastern based movies also.

It dragged, used a fuck load of cliched sentimentaliy that didn't really work, especially in regard to Berg trying to re-create and re-use some of the techniques he used in Friday Night Ligths to emotionally enage the audience (such as his motage sequences with Explosions in the Sky playing over the monage), the sequences didn't seem to fit and the characters where nowhere near as sympathetic or complex as those in Friday Night Lights, meaning I felt nothing for them.

The rest of the film could come under the 'Bayified' category of current Hollywood cheap thrill action like cinema that Mark Kermode has recently been berating.

EdgeHead469
December 12th, 2008, 4:24 PM
I don't know. Whenever I want to watch a good action flick that is not too long and I am bored or something I will put it in. I am a sucker for Jamie Foxx and cliched action movies so I like it but I can completely see where you are coming from Lem.

Dream-Evil
December 13th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Hugh Jackman to host the Oscars? Heh, could be worse. He did win an Emmy for hosting the Tony Awards.

PurePlayer
December 13th, 2008, 5:25 PM
I didn't really know where to put this, so I am going to ask the question here. I have been hearing rumors about DVDs becoming obsolete within the next couple year, but I just can't see that happening with DVDs making more money that Blu-Ray, and that fact that so many people are content with dvds that they don't want to shell out the extra money for blu-rays. What are you thoughts on this?

Keano's Magic Hat
December 13th, 2008, 5:29 PM
Blu-Ray is ruining my life. I must have in the region of 500 or so DVDs. I'm the type of person who if switching to Blu-ray would replace his whole collection.

I seriously do not want to do this.

Guy
December 13th, 2008, 5:32 PM
Blu-Ray is ruining my life. I must have in the region of 500 or so DVDs. I'm the type of person who if switching to Blu-ray would replace his whole collection.

I seriously do not want to do this.

:yes:

I agree.

I mean I want all my films upgraded to Blu-Ray sure, but not at the price it will cost me

So until:
A) I become a multimillionaire (or at least extremely well payed)
B) Films become 3D holograms

I'm ok with DVD

PurePlayer
December 13th, 2008, 5:34 PM
So do you guys think that DVDs will stop being made in the next few years? Or maybe 10 years?

PurePlayer
December 14th, 2008, 5:22 PM
So Ebert stated that "The Wrestler" should win best picture this year and Mickey Rourke should win an oscar for best actor.

Morrison
December 14th, 2008, 9:05 PM
Half of Roger Ebert's face looks like a Salvador Dali painting.

Hulkamaniac
December 15th, 2008, 2:33 PM
Hugh Jackman to host the Oscars? Heh, could be worse. He did win an Emmy for hosting the Tony Awards.

Thats an oustanding call by the Oscars, very interesting indeed.


I didn't really know where to put this, so I am going to ask the question here. I have been hearing rumors about DVDs becoming obsolete within the next couple year, but I just can't see that happening with DVDs making more money that Blu-Ray, and that fact that so many people are content with dvds that they don't want to shell out the extra money for blu-rays. What are you thoughts on this?

Unlikely that they'll be entirely replaced. More likely that we'll get more versions of Blu-Ray players that also play DVDs. By the time Blu-Ray kills off DVD, something will have killed off Blu-Ray.


So Ebert stated that "The Wrestler" should win best picture this year and Mickey Rourke should win an oscar for best actor.

I think that he'll likely win Best Actor for it.

son_of_foley
December 16th, 2008, 7:14 AM
Right I went to see White Christmas in the cinema last night. Brilliantly cheesy old nonsense. Anyone else seen it? I also watched Elf on Sunday so Im into christmas now.

Ochoa
December 16th, 2008, 9:36 PM
Well I am going to watch a few movies.

I have Step-Brothers, You Don't Mess With The Zohan, Tropic Thunder (which I have to finish), the documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster and some classic films like A Streetcar Named Desire and Rebel Without A Cause.

I'll give my thoughts after I watch them. I know you all are anxiously anticipating that.

Guy
December 16th, 2008, 9:39 PM
Right I went to see White Christmas in the cinema last night. Brilliantly cheesy old nonsense. Anyone else seen it? I also watched Elf on Sunday so Im into christmas now.

I usually watch Bill Murray in "Scrooged" around the festive period. Puts me in the Xmas mood

Zen
December 16th, 2008, 11:55 PM
Speaking of Scrooge, the movie starring Alistair Sim is on tomorrow night for me. I own the dvd but it's like tradition for me to watch it. It repeats often till xmas day.

Ace Rockola
December 17th, 2008, 12:06 AM
How about Michael Caine as Scrooge in the Muppet Christmas Carol. Awesome X-mas movie.

I steal cable
December 17th, 2008, 8:10 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7786533.stm

Peter Falk apparently has Alzheimer's :(

GeezaTap
December 17th, 2008, 8:45 AM
Jeez, just think how many 'just one last question's' the poor sod will have now. :(

Just Banter
December 17th, 2008, 9:05 AM
Unlikely that they'll be entirely replaced. More likely that we'll get more versions of Blu-Ray players that also play DVDs. By the time Blu-Ray kills off DVD, something will have killed off Blu-Ray.

I remember someone telling me during the HD-DVD versus Blu-Ray days that it didn't really matter which format won, because it would rapidly be killed off a RAM type storage format.

That sound plausible to anyone?

son_of_foley
December 17th, 2008, 10:00 AM
I remember someone telling me during the HD-DVD versus Blu-Ray days that it didn't really matter which format won, because it would rapidly be killed off a RAM type storage format.

That sound plausible to anyone?

Not massively plausible for a while as it would need a very high connection to download the files.

Hulkamaniac
December 17th, 2008, 10:47 AM
I remember someone telling me during the HD-DVD versus Blu-Ray days that it didn't really matter which format won, because it would rapidly be killed off a RAM type storage format.

That sound plausible to anyone?

Killed off? No. Superceded? Yupo. DVD wont get killed off for a while cos...why would they? Blu-Ray doesnt take up much less space and doesnt cost much less. DVDs arent a big problem in terms of breaking, distorted quality, space or cost. They arent like VCR tapes, so there is no reason for it to go anywhere anytime soon.

Guy
December 18th, 2008, 10:02 PM
Ok, so I haven't seen Blade Runner.

Reason being is there's like 3 different versions that apparently are radically different and I couldn't be arsed with it all (note: they might not be radically different, I'm not 100%).

Changed my mind now, so which version should I track down?

Morrison
December 18th, 2008, 10:14 PM
Ok, so I haven't seen Blade Runner.

Reason being is there's like 3 different versions that apparently are radically different and I couldn't be arsed with it all (note: they might not be radically different, I'm not 100%).

Changed my mind now, so which version should I track down?

I just recently watched the original, theatrical version, and loved it. I'd suggest just watching the original version, and if you like it, go back and check out the Final Cut edition.

Guy
December 18th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Cool I'll do that then.

Sometimes I love director's cut's of movies, other times re-re-re-re-releases piss me off.

Does anyone else feel this way? or are people mostly one way or the other about them?

Beer-Belly
December 19th, 2008, 12:28 AM
Darren Aronofsky appeared on the Howard Stern show today, and was again downplaying the upcoming Robocop reboot/remake, which he is attached to develop and direct for MGM. When asked if he was directing the next Robocop movie, Aronofsky replied “Oh, I don’t know. We’ll See. We’re working on a screenplay. So we’re developing it but we don’t have a screenplay yet. We’re working hard on it.”

The filmmaker was also making some strange/vague comments about the project at The Wrestler junket last week. Other blogs have already begun to speculate that Darren is either off the project, or it just isn’t going to happen anymore. It’s a little to early to jump to conclusions. Darren is an extremely sly guy, and I’m convinced that this just might be his way of redirecting the questions back to his current project.I am actually really looking forward to his take on Robocop. Someone is going to remake it at some point and I'd rather it be done by a talented director. Seriously, if he's going to drop Robocop by the wayside in order to make his boxing movie The Fighter (which has been to done to death), I'm going to have to cry bull shit. Why make two underdog sports movies in a row? Mix it up a little bit, for fuck's sake. The world needs more well made genre films.

Also...

Tomorrow, Darren is making the journey to Stamford Connecticut to show The Wrestler to WWE Chairman Vince McMahon. I don’t think they would be making such a reach-out if the Fox Searchlight/WWE weren’t interested in doing some kind of promotion for the film.Yeah, good luck with that. Your film is racking up the awards and you're going to take it to the lowest common denominator in entertainment.

Hulkamaniac
December 19th, 2008, 7:04 AM
Ok, so I haven't seen Blade Runner.

Reason being is there's like 3 different versions that apparently are radically different and I couldn't be arsed with it all (note: they might not be radically different, I'm not 100%).

Changed my mind now, so which version should I track down?

See Ridley Scott's Final Cut.


In terms of The Wrestler, I cant see that Vince will like this, but for the fact that it might give some exposure to WWE in a time when it is flailing.

son_of_foley
December 19th, 2008, 7:07 AM
Have any of you miserable shits watched white christmas yet?

Keano's Magic Hat
December 19th, 2008, 7:28 AM
Cool I'll do that then.

Sometimes I love director's cut's of movies, other times re-re-re-re-releases piss me off.

Does anyone else feel this way? or are people mostly one way or the other about them?

Yup. Watched Apocalypse Now Redux and remember not thinking it was all that. One day I noticed the word redux and thought "What tha-fack?" so bought the original and loved it.

Marlon Dingle
December 19th, 2008, 7:38 AM
Blade Runner is awesome, just reminds me of being like 4 years old and my dad showing me the end scene like a dozen times. I dont know why but he loves that fucking movie. He had it on VHS, then Directors Cut on VHS, then he bought it on DVD and then I got him the big collectors edition for him last chrimbo.

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

Cactus Lem
December 19th, 2008, 9:39 AM
Yup. Watched Apocalypse Now Redux and remember not thinking it was all that. One day I noticed the word redux and thought "What tha-fack?" so bought the original and loved it.

Yeah I watched the Redux first as well, thought it was good, enjoyed and appreciated the film stylistically , but just felt that it was overly long.

I watched the regular version a few months back for the first time though, and I absolutley loved it. I'd go as far as to say it's one of my favourite films. All of the crap was cut, and the movie just seemed perfect, there felt like there was no need for the tampering wih the Redux version at all.

Thinking back to the Redux I remember the French Plantation scene completley taking me out of the film. Went far to long and wasn't especially interesting. The Playboy scene is another that was just needlessley extended.

After watching the regular version, it made me feel that the Redux was just about Coppola being overly indulgent with a movie that wa perfect as it was. It was as if he was striving to make it that little bit more perfect, when really there wasn't much need.

Keano's Magic Hat
December 19th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Yup, the French Plantation scene was terrible, was looking at my watch during that which is something I very rarely do when watching a film.

The regular version is magnificent though, one of the greatest. Also, how big did Brando look in this :shocked: Looked like a giant.

PurePlayer
December 19th, 2008, 12:31 PM
Not a fan of Blade Runner. I just couldn't get into it.

Cactus Lem
December 19th, 2008, 12:41 PM
Not a fan of Blade Runner. I just couldn't get into it.

I swear I remember you watching it and saying it was awesome at some other point......

Ochoa
December 19th, 2008, 12:47 PM
I watched Tropic Thunder, Step-Brothers and You Don't Mess With the Zohan. They all had me laughing, but I think Thunder or Zohan was the best.

Vice
December 19th, 2008, 12:47 PM
Wasn't him, Lem..

From July-ish:


I wasn't a fan of Blade Runner. It was alright, but it didn't live up to the hype it was getting. At least for me it didn't.


I just got done watching Blade Runner and North by Northwest. I have to say that I just couldn't get into Blade Runner for some reason. I just can't really explain it, but I thought I would like the movie better

Ace Rockola
December 19th, 2008, 12:55 PM
Also...
Yeah, good luck with that. Your film is racking up the awards and you're going to take it to the lowest common denominator in entertainment.

I think Vince has already made up his mind. I was watching ECW the other night and when Finlay was fighting some local jobber Matt Striker busts out on commentary, "you can keep you Randy Robinsions and cockamamy movies about what you THINK this business is about, but the truth is it's about guys like Finlay."

PurePlayer
December 19th, 2008, 4:48 PM
I swear I remember you watching it and saying it was awesome at some other point......

Thanks Vice for not making me look that up. :yes:

Beer-Belly
December 19th, 2008, 5:19 PM
I think Vince has already made up his mind. I was watching ECW the other night and when Finlay was fighting some local jobber Matt Striker busts out on commentary, "you can keep you Randy Robinsions and cockamamy movies about what you THINK this business is about, but the truth is it's about guys like Finlay."

Mickey Rourke could kick the shit out of most of those jokers.

The term "the business" is laughable at this point.

Ace Rockola
December 19th, 2008, 5:28 PM
To be fair, Finlay is one of the few I wouldn't expect him to. It was still a pathetic little dig at the movie. One I'm sure Vince fed to Striker.

Guy
December 19th, 2008, 5:37 PM
Yea I heard that and became disheartened.

Someone at WWE needs to realise that times change, and in this day and age most western audeinces, be them young or old, know the system isn't "real" by now.

Makes me laugh is that Trips comes out all the time breaks kayfabe and practically says "this isn't real folks", yet they still won't appreciate things like this movie.

Ace Rockola
December 19th, 2008, 5:44 PM
Yea I heard that and became disheartened.

Someone at WWE needs to realise that times change, and in this day and age most western audeinces, be them young or old, know the system isn't "real" by now.

Makes me laugh is that Trips comes out all the time breaks kayfabe and practically says "this isn't real folks", yet they still won't appreciate things like this movie.

I'd like to think it's less about pulling back the curtain, and more about how these guys should have a union and how the business chews them up and spits them out.

Guy
December 19th, 2008, 5:49 PM
Aye maybe.

Thing is, anyone who goes to see The Wrestler AND watches WWE TV probably has an idea how the business works.

Plus they release a few autobiographies every year.

Ace Rockola
December 19th, 2008, 5:59 PM
Aye maybe.

Thing is, anyone who goes to see The Wrestler AND watches WWE TV probably has an idea how the business works.

Plus they release a few autobiographies every year.

Yeah, that's something I always find funny. Ric Flair will punch me in the face if I tell him I'm a mark for him, but then will take part in TWO WWE DVDs, a book and Legends roundtable.

Version 6
December 19th, 2008, 7:21 PM
Aye maybe.

Thing is, anyone who goes to see The Wrestler AND watches WWE TV probably has an idea how the business works.

Plus they release a few autobiographies every year.

"Protecting the business" is a fluid concept. It doesn't entail upholding kayfabe, and hasn't for quite a while.

The WWE licenced products (those that break kayfabe like the books and DVD's) paint a santised picture of the "real side" of the business. So sure, the books freely admit the business is scripted, pre-determined, and whatever else, but stop short of really showing how seedy, scummy and despicable parts of the professional wrestling industry are.

It's why Vince can happily produce Jake the Snake Roberts and Chris Benoit DVDs, but detest Ring of Hell and Beyond the Mat.

There's "the truth" and there's the truth.


Yeah, that's something I always find funny. Ric Flair will punch me in the face if I tell him I'm a mark for him, but then will take part in TWO WWE DVDs, a book and Legends roundtable.

Again, that's got nothing to do with protecting kayfabe.

He takes offense to outsiders using insider lingo. Because we haven't done the hard work and make the sactifices that he feels entitle someone to be able to talk like the insiders.

I understand that fully.

Guy
December 19th, 2008, 7:54 PM
"Protecting the business" is a fluid concept. It doesn't entail upholding kayfabe, and hasn't for quite a while.

The WWE licenced products (those that break kayfabe like the books and DVD's) paint a santised picture of the "real side" of the business. So sure, the books freely admit the business is scripted, pre-determined, and whatever else, but stop short of really showing how seedy, scummy and despicable parts of the professional wrestling industry are.

It's why Vince can happily produce Jake the Snake Roberts and Chris Benoit DVDs, but detest Ring of Hell and Beyond the Mat.

There's "the truth" and there's the truth..

I'm not sure, I'd have to read Foley's through again to see what you're getting at.

Y2J's is pretty ace though and tells practically all about the business, seedy included, though it isn't WWE licensed, it was aided by Foley and contains a Foreward by JR.

:dunno:

I just think it's time WWE stop being a bit up their own arse about things is all. They seem to come down on anything wrestling related they they didn't produce themselves. I can't remember any other sport being that way.

foleybumps
December 19th, 2008, 8:21 PM
Subject change.

"The Life and Times of Tim" is glorious.

I tried searching, but didn't come up with anything. I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, as it seems do mesh with the dryness of some of the posters I see on here.

Anyone seen it?

RockOverBoston
December 20th, 2008, 10:16 AM
Again, that's got nothing to do with protecting kayfabe.

He takes offense to outsiders using insider lingo. Because we haven't done the hard work and make the sactifices that he feels entitle someone to be able to talk like the insiders.

I understand that fully.

Indeed -- I don't know about entitlement, but there's definitly a fairly heavy level of douchebaggery involved with those in no way associated with pro wrestling speaking in insider's terms.

Hulkamaniac
December 21st, 2008, 7:02 AM
Who gives a fuck if people speak insider terms? They do in every sport and entertainment industry. Wrestling feels like it ought to be considered so much more special than anything else, just because its completely insular and incestual. Its the only sports entertainment industry in the world that is almost completely controlled by one man.

Version 6
December 21st, 2008, 6:00 PM
Who gives a fuck if people speak insider terms? They do in every sport and entertainment industry. Wrestling feels like it ought to be considered so much more special than anything else, just because its completely insular and incestual. Its the only sports entertainment industry in the world that is almost completely controlled by one man.

When someone who has never been to law school/practised law tries to tell me the ins and outs of certain legislation or cases with an unfounded air of authority, it grates me.

Again though, this is just a tangent and not really the argument.

Jimmy Zero
December 21st, 2008, 6:10 PM
Intricacies of law and hillbilly entertainment is a piss poor comparison. It's not like you need special training to understand what a face or a heel is.

Guy
December 21st, 2008, 6:31 PM
No but there is all of these also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_slang

Words invented by people in the business to describe said business to other people inside the business.

I think that's the point

Hulkamaniac
December 21st, 2008, 6:37 PM
...Its a bit of a gay thing to want to protect though, isnt it?

Jimmy Zero
December 21st, 2008, 6:38 PM
That's just being a smidge pedantic, no? My point remains the same.

People in the wrestling business act like you have to have been a wrestler to truly understand the intricacies of pro wrestling, and that's simply not the case. I don't have to have been a professional baseball player to be able to properly use baseball jargon, do I?

PurePlayer
December 21st, 2008, 6:50 PM
It's like people within the NFL crying about the million of football movies made. The WWE need to get over themselves and realize that this movie can actually be a good thing for them.

son_of_foley
December 22nd, 2008, 6:40 AM
I watched Tropic Thunder, Step-Brothers and You Don't Mess With the Zohan. They all had me laughing, but I think Thunder or Zohan was the best.

I thought zohan was an absolutely terrible film and was like a very very bad version of borat.

Marlon Dingle
December 23rd, 2008, 11:53 AM
Con Air is on BBC ONE tonight. One of the best action films of the nineties.

son_of_foley
December 23rd, 2008, 12:00 PM
Hard Target was on last night and I missed it

I steal cable
December 23rd, 2008, 5:34 PM
so re watched As Good As It Gets for the first time in yeeeeears and couldn't stop laughing at the cafe scenes

the first one had Cuddy and Taub as the jewish customers which Nicholson rips into

then later it had Avon Barksdale as a busboy

Ace Rockola
December 23rd, 2008, 6:41 PM
Again, that's got nothing to do with protecting kayfabe.

He takes offense to outsiders using insider lingo. Because we haven't done the hard work and make the sactifices that he feels entitle someone to be able to talk like the insiders.

I understand that fully.

Oh I understand it, I just think it's really dumb. Obviously Ric Flair can't do a damn thing at this point to stop us from knowing these phrases, but if you're so for us not knowing this stuff, don't help expose us.

If my ex didn't want me to use British slang she shouldn't have talked to me like she was back home in Stoke-On-Trent for our whole relationship. People pick up stuff they hear all the time. So if Ric wants me to not talk like one of the boys, help keep the curtain closed. If he calls Ricky Steamboat a great worker in 5 interviews he does he should fully expect people to use the same lingo.

Dose anyone here watch any of those family shows on TLC? My girl is obsessed with these shows and the one I've sorta grown to want to watch is the one with the creepy family with 18 kids. We watched it last night when they gave birth to baby 18 and it's really creepy. There's really no other way to describe it. I don't like the show, but it's hard to not watch.

VoteTrump24
December 23rd, 2008, 7:27 PM
Eighteen kids? :eek: :eyebrow: We get it, your shit works. What in the hell would possess one to want 18 kids? I cannot even fathom the costs of feeding/clothing/caring for that many. Costco's #1 customer?

I'm the eldest of three boys. We played football in high school and ate our fair share of food growing up (albeit receiver/defensive back types), but to multiply that by 4 or 5? DAMN! :eek:

Ace Rockola
December 23rd, 2008, 7:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duggar_family

Ringo
December 24th, 2008, 11:42 AM
So I just saw The Hills Have Eyes (2006 version). Lovely festive film for a Christmas Eve :)

Morrison
December 24th, 2008, 2:05 PM
Oh I understand it, I just think it's really dumb. Obviously Ric Flair can't do a damn thing at this point to stop us from knowing these phrases, but if you're so for us not knowing this stuff, don't help expose us.

If my ex didn't want me to use British slang she shouldn't have talked to me like she was back home in Stoke-On-Trent for our whole relationship. People pick up stuff they hear all the time. So if Ric wants me to not talk like one of the boys, help keep the curtain closed. If he calls Ricky Steamboat a great worker in 5 interviews he does he should fully expect people to use the same lingo.

Dose anyone here watch any of those family shows on TLC? My girl is obsessed with these shows and the one I've sorta grown to want to watch is the one with the creepy family with 18 kids. We watched it last night when they gave birth to baby 18 and it's really creepy. There's really no other way to describe it. I don't like the show, but it's hard to not watch.

This isn't really the thread to be discussing this topic, but this whole point of view is so incredibly naive.

Guy
December 25th, 2008, 8:30 AM
I thought the worst part of his argument was dating a Stokie :p

Morrison
December 25th, 2008, 4:03 PM
I really love this time of year when it comes to film. There's at least 6 movies out at my local theater right now that I want to see badly(Benjamin Button, Doubt, Slumdog Millionaire, Gran Torino, Frost/Nixon, and Milk). Always makes me happy knowing there's always something I can go watch.

Beforehand
December 25th, 2008, 6:57 PM
I'm in the same position, except trade "Milk" for "Revolutionary Road". I guess it's not out yet where I am, but I've seen "Milk" and "RR" should be opening soon enough.

"Benjamin Button" in an hour or so, and probably "Slumdog" and "Frost/Nixon" tomorrow.

Beer-Belly
December 26th, 2008, 6:56 AM
Doomsday and Punisher: War Zone are my two favorite B-movies of the year.

Badger
December 26th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Watching Come Dine With Me right now, bunch of weirdos.

A guy who does embalming and has a picture of a dead mum in his coffin, ahahaaaaa. An Aussie who cooks crocodile and kangaroo too.

None of these people can cook for shit.

Version 6
December 27th, 2008, 12:31 AM
Fantastic show.

That embalming guy is so strange he is scary. From memory his name was Graeme and he had a crooked eye.

Eggbert Spam
December 27th, 2008, 12:43 AM
Since when does cooking crocodile or kangaroo make someone a weirdo?

Version 6
December 27th, 2008, 8:38 AM
Have been on a movie watching spree in the last 24 hours.

Juno (for the second time): What an absolutely perfect little film. Great dialogue. Michael Cera is amazing. I have a man-crush on him.

I Heart Huckabees: Went into this film with absolutely no idea what it would be like. All I'd been told is that it had an amazing cast, and that I'd "like it". Beyond that, I had no idea what to expect, and was actually expecting a romantic comedy.

I really enjoyed it. I've heard this film be labelled pretentious, but I couldn't disagree more. I'm only consequentially interested in existential theory. I've never read up on it, don't intend to, and don't find it particularly engaging. But, this film made the subject matter particularly easy to comprehend. And didn't try to be difficult to follow.

And it was geniunly funny and clever. Someone more interested in existential theory would probably find it somewhat base. But I really liked it.

A Mighty Wind: Really picks up the ball handed to it by Spinal Tap, and runs with it. Levy is awesome. Laugh out loud funny, and I was actually on my own. That probably says more about me, than the film though.

Badger
December 27th, 2008, 9:29 AM
Since when does cooking crocodile or kangaroo make someone a weirdo?

He wouldn't be a weirdo if he could at least do it properly.

The psychic lady and embalming guy were stranger though.

Hobbit
December 27th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Watched Pirates of the Caribbean 2 last night.

Jesus, what utter drivel. Why do people lap this shit up? Yeah ok Johnny Depp we get it, you're whacky. Orlando Bloom :lol:

RockOverBoston
December 27th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Watched Pirates of the Caribbean 2 last night.

Jesus, what utter drivel. Why do people lap this shit up? Yeah ok Johnny Depp we get it, you're whacky. Orlando Bloom :lol:

Yeah, if you didn't like 2, you're going to want to avoid 3 as much as humanly possible...

So I'd been curious about this book "The Year Of Living Biblically - One Man's Humble Quest to Follow the Bible as Literally as Possible" by A.J. Jacobs for quite some time now. Several of my friends had mentioned it, it seems that just about every critic in the world absolutely lapped it up, and I'd always meant to pick it up yet forgot all about it every time I set foot in a book store.

I wound up with 4 copies of it for Christmas, which basically means that I've got a small Barnes and Noble shopping spree on my hands in the near future...

This book, so far, is as absolutely hilarious as I'd heard and expected. At this point, he's stopped wearing mixed fibers, insists on bathing immediatly after sex to his wife's shock and annoyance, has stoned an adulterer with a small pebble and has taken literal interpretation of the Bible to equally ridiculous and hilarious extremes.

I somewhat fear that the conclusion will be this confessed agnostic having some sort of legitimate spiritual awakening, but even that storybook ending couldn't take away from the sheer enjoyment that this book has provided so far. Well worth a read...what a truly hilarious concept.

I steal cable
December 27th, 2008, 1:23 PM
So I brought my brother 'Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets' for Christmas. He's not the biggest reader I know, actually, the only reading he ever gets done is the synopsis on DVD covers. He can't put this book down though and he's raving about it. I get to read it after him as well.... not that that's the reason I brought it for him in the first place.

Alf
December 27th, 2008, 6:58 PM
I finished reading it this week. They have another one coming out called The Corner in april. Can't wait.

Ringo
December 27th, 2008, 7:04 PM
The Corner's out already, Alf. It was released in 1997. Need to get my hands on both of them though.

Alf
December 27th, 2008, 7:05 PM
I know mate... but good luck getting a copy. I've looked in 5 bookshops and given up. The paperback is released in april... and if it's like Homocide it'll have a cool bit at the back about David Simon and the wire.

Ringo
December 27th, 2008, 7:10 PM
Ah I see what you mean. Fair play.

Hulkamaniac
December 28th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Watched Pirates of the Caribbean 2 last night.

Jesus, what utter drivel. Why do people lap this shit up? Yeah ok Johnny Depp we get it, you're whacky. Orlando Bloom :lol:

Mostly everyone admits that it is the worst one. The third is significantly better, but they should've left it at one.


So I brought my brother 'Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets' for Christmas. He's not the biggest reader I know, actually, the only reading he ever gets done is the synopsis on DVD covers. He can't put this book down though and he's raving about it. I get to read it after him as well.... not that that's the reason I brought it for him in the first place.

Got this for Christmas, cant wait to read it, but I started The Stand a couple of days before Christmas, so it'll be waiting a while.

RockOverBoston
December 28th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Got this for Christmas, cant wait to read it, but I started The Stand a couple of days before Christmas, so it'll be waiting a while.

Maybe not, though -- even with limited time to read, The Stand is fast-paced enough where you tend to get through it a lot more quickly than its enormous size would probably have you expecting to.

KorruptJustice
December 28th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Yeah, if you didn't like 2, you're going to want to avoid 3 as much as humanly possible...

I don't know. I didn't care for the second one that much, but liked the third one pretty well, with the exception of one or two scenes.

Thirteen
December 28th, 2008, 12:15 PM
I agree, I didn't like Pirates 2 very much at all. But I loved Part 3. I will agree that there are some stuff during it that I groaned about (mainly the whole Calypso storyline), but overall it was very effective. From the first five minutes, that definitely lets you know this movie is going in a darker direction, and the last 30 minutes is worth watching the movie by itself, as it does contain some great action sequences.

We watched Baby Mama for the first time Friday night, and I quite enjoyed it. It was a predictable comedy, as I pretty much called what would happen from almost the beginning, and it wasn't over the top funny, but I did enjoy watching it. Tina Fey did a great job, as she always does, and even Amy Poehler, who I am not a big fan of, did a good job as well. I also think I got the most enjoyment out of watching Steve Martin, because I didn't realize he was in it, and he just played a completely out there character.

RockOverBoston
December 28th, 2008, 12:16 PM
I don't know that I really have a preference between 2 and 3, it's more that both really make me think about how much better that the original was, and how aside from the oodles of cash that the sequels would make, regardless of quality, that either neither should have existed or, more likely, that both should have been so much better than they actually were.

I really liked the original, and in my opinion, neither sequel comes anywhere near it.

Guy
December 28th, 2008, 12:46 PM
A lot of franchises should've really just been one off films to be fair, personally though I don't mind sequels. The original film is always going to be around, just because the characters re-appear in lesser films, doesn't mean the first film is any less of a brilliant movie.

In terms of Pirates, the first one is a great movie, the sequel lacking, the third is an improvement over the second, but not as great as the first. Though I do enjoy watching all three. Oddly after being disapointed by an entry in a franchise, I usually grow to enjoy it on second viewing. Happened with Pirates 2 and Indy 4, maybe because my expectations are lowered, I dunno.

virms
December 28th, 2008, 12:48 PM
Yeah, if you didn't like 2, you're going to want to avoid 3 as much as humanly possible...

So I'd been curious about this book "The Year Of Living Biblically - One Man's Humble Quest to Follow the Bible as Literally as Possible" by A.J. Jacobs for quite some time now. Several of my friends had mentioned it, it seems that just about every critic in the world absolutely lapped it up, and I'd always meant to pick it up yet forgot all about it every time I set foot in a book store.

I wound up with 4 copies of it for Christmas, which basically means that I've got a small Barnes and Noble shopping spree on my hands in the near future...

This book, so far, is as absolutely hilarious as I'd heard and expected. At this point, he's stopped wearing mixed fibers, insists on bathing immediatly after sex to his wife's shock and annoyance, has stoned an adulterer with a small pebble and has taken literal interpretation of the Bible to equally ridiculous and hilarious extremes.

I somewhat fear that the conclusion will be this confessed agnostic having some sort of legitimate spiritual awakening, but even that storybook ending couldn't take away from the sheer enjoyment that this book has provided so far. Well worth a read...what a truly hilarious concept.

This does sound like a tremendous book. Not really religious by any means but the subject does fascinate me to no end. Just watched Religious the other day and thought it was enjoyable. I like Bill Maher, but he does come off like a hypocrite in several scenes by saying he is only asking questions for their views but at the same time demeaning them for said views.

PurePlayer
December 28th, 2008, 3:30 PM
So I have been on a Tom Hanks tear this weekend watching The Green Mile, Apollo 13, and Philadelphia. These are all first time viewings, and I loved all three. I just wish the Green Mile would have cut a few scenes that had to do with the mouse. The movie could have cut at least 15 minutes and it would have benefited. Other than that, it was a great movie.

IB
December 30th, 2008, 2:58 PM
My first post here on a non-wrestling thread. Honestly forgot the rest of the boards exhisted lol.

I just finished watching "Disaster Movie". I, like millions of others, find it more pleasing to download than to spend hard earned money on things we arent sure we like.


Disaster Movie - Another one of those cheeky spoof movies that I have come to HATE! My step son begged me to download/watch this trite with him. The movie spoofs such films as Alvin and the Chipmunks, Cloverleaf, Juno and such personalities as Justin timerberlake, Beowolf, Indiana Jones, Jessica Simpson and Amy Winehouse. Not only were the impersonations Mad TV worthy, but the film itself was soooo poorly done that I wish I never wasted my bandwith on it.

My Rating : D-

I steal cable
December 30th, 2008, 6:51 PM
make sure you check out Dance Flick when it's released

it looks like a laugh a minute kinda film

IB
December 31st, 2008, 9:41 AM
oh I sure will thanks for the tip *wink*

Jimmy Zero
January 3rd, 2009, 6:16 PM
Saw Marley and Me a few hours ago.

I'm not one to cry at movies, but god damn it if I didn't bawl like a baby at this one. Being a dog owner didn't help my case, but fucking hell does the movie drive a stake through your heart.

Version 6
January 4th, 2009, 12:06 AM
Can anyone suggest a good movie podcast?

Hobbit
January 4th, 2009, 8:15 AM
I thoroughly enjoy Mark Kermode's reviews on 5Live I think it is. Podcast is free on iTunes I assume, and probably worldwide.

Saw "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" the other night with the legend that is Clive Owen. Also featuring Malcolm McDowell and that irritating burke that was Henry VIII in The Tudors. It was alright, but very very downbeat. It's basically about this man (Owen) who is a former gangster now living in the countryside and when he discovers his brother's killed himself he looks into it. I know a lot of people slag off Owen for many things including his inability to perform another facial expression other than 'stare' and this film certainly won't help that image go away as he acts with the same expression for the entire film. Still though I liked it even if I did want to kill myself afterwards.

Jimmy Zero
January 4th, 2009, 8:09 PM
Is there a more played out song in action movie trailers/commercials than White Zombie's More Human than Human?

If there is, I can't think of it.

Version 6
January 4th, 2009, 8:15 PM
Graciosa by Moby was in everything for a while.

Matt E
January 5th, 2009, 8:50 PM
So I stumbled across this - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300853/

What the fuck are they thinking? :lol:

Guy
January 5th, 2009, 9:29 PM
That with minimal expense they can make a straight to DVD sequel to a succesful theatrical film and capitalise on the niche audience of the last film and other films of its type?

Guy
January 5th, 2009, 9:33 PM
Though whilst we're on the subject, remember this classic re-make from THE ROCK:

http://www.geocities.com/theactionkingsg/WalkingTall-DVDcoverart.jpg

Well, apparently, these exist now:

http://gfx.filmweb.pl/po/94/60/339460/7131544.3.jpghttp://tf.org/images/covers/tf.org-Walking-Tall-Lone-Justice-free.jpg

Two back to back filmed sequels, to a re-make...neither starring The Rock or his character

Marlon Dingle
January 7th, 2009, 10:05 AM
I've got Munich on DVD to watch tonight. Anyone tell me if its any good?

Hulkamaniac
January 7th, 2009, 11:15 AM
Very.

foleybumps
January 8th, 2009, 3:59 PM
If you've seen it, what are your thoughts on Factotum?

I watched it a couple of evenings ago, and I can't really say it had any redeemable qualities. I seemed like one of those movies you watch and say "I can see this happening if it was just one guy making a movie, but I'm pretty sure there were multiple people involved here."

I'm thinking of reading the book it was based on just to see how they could fill a book. I have to assume it's vastly different from the movie.

Morrison
January 14th, 2009, 1:44 AM
I've got Munich on DVD to watch tonight. Anyone tell me if its any good?


Very.

I bought the DVD a few years back, but it ended up becoming one of those films that I just never got around to. I pulled it out of my collection around the same time Marlon made that post, and finally watched it tonight, and it really was fantastic. I'd say I enjoyed the direction here more than I did Ang Lee's in Brokeback Mountain, which won the Oscar that year. Shots like Avner in the hotel room waiting to turn out the light, and after he gets off the phone with his wife and daughter always get me. The balance of darkness with muted and desaturated colors is so appealing to my eyes. The story itself, being inspired by true events, lead it away from just being a typical espionage action film, and allowed a much broader, profound message to cut it's way throughout the movie, which was backed up constantly with great acting from everyone involved. Truly loved it.

son_of_foley
January 14th, 2009, 5:08 AM
I went on a bit of dvd kick recently and have bought the following to watch

City of God
Raging Bull
AQUA TEEN HUNGER FORCE THE MOVIE
Transporter 1+2
Shawshank Redemption

Which should I start with

Beer-Belly
January 14th, 2009, 5:25 AM
City of God or Aqua Teen.

son_of_foley
January 14th, 2009, 5:28 AM
Beautiful call.

Ps has anyone seen much of Afro Samurai (I think thats the name) like an American anime with Samuel L Jackson doing the voices of the main character? I saw an episode of it and it seemed interesting just not sure if I should spend my time chasing it up

N.E.R.F.
January 14th, 2009, 11:45 AM
Nah it's utter shit I thought.

Version 6
January 14th, 2009, 5:04 PM
I went on a bit of dvd kick recently and have bought the following to watch

City of God
Raging Bull
AQUA TEEN HUNGER FORCE THE MOVIE
Transporter 1+2
Shawshank Redemption

Which should I start with

Raging Bull. One of the best performances of all time. :yes:

I steal cable
January 14th, 2009, 5:25 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm

McGoohan has died :(

The Prisoner was immense and it's only a matter of time now that they're gonna make a shitty remake of it.

Cactus Lem
January 14th, 2009, 6:34 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7829267.stm

McGoohan has died :(

The Prisoner was immense and it's only a matter of time now that they're gonna make a shitty remake of it.

I remember my brother telling me that Christopher Nolan had expressed an interest in making a Prisoner film.

One Man Gang
January 14th, 2009, 6:45 PM
So I heard Ricardo Montalban died today. Khan, I will always remember thee.

Jimmy Zero
January 14th, 2009, 8:07 PM
Yeah, that sucks. Montalban was awesome. In addition to my loving him in Star Trek 2, he was also in, I believe, two of the Planet of the Apes movies. I can't remember if he was in the third, but he was the caretaker of the ape that led the revolution in the fourth POTA. I love those original Planet of the Apes movies.

alec empire
January 14th, 2009, 11:08 PM
I went on a bit of dvd kick recently and have bought the following to watch

City of God
Raging Bull
AQUA TEEN HUNGER FORCE THE MOVIE
Transporter 1+2
Shawshank Redemption

Which should I start with


They're all great in their own right (Transporter1/2 for action flicks why not?), but City of God is deffinetly a brilliant movie and one of the best of this generation. Hope you like it:yes:

KorruptJustice
January 16th, 2009, 1:13 AM
I actually just finished watching City of God for the first time a few hours ago. Absolutely amazing film, and one that everyone should see. Normally I have a difficult time watching a film with subtitles (there's only two or three other ones that I really enjoy), but this movie just sucked me in within the first five minutes to the point where half the time I didn't even realize I was reading subtitles.

It being so great almost makes up for the fact that my other Netflix DVD didn't fucking work :mad:. Still, can't really complain about that, as it's the first time I've ever had that problem.

RockOverBoston
January 16th, 2009, 1:48 AM
And who knows -- depending on what the other DVD it was, its not working could have been a blessing in disguise.

Guy
January 16th, 2009, 7:21 AM
City of God, although great, seems like it's 15 hours long

foleybumps
January 16th, 2009, 10:07 AM
I went on a bit of dvd kick recently and have bought the following to watch

City of God
Raging Bull
AQUA TEEN HUNGER FORCE THE MOVIE
Transporter 1+2
Shawshank Redemption

Which should I start with


City of God or Aqua Teen.


Raging Bull. One of the best performances of all time. :yes:


They're all great in their own right (Transporter1/2 for action flicks why not?), but City of God is deffinetly a brilliant movie and one of the best of this generation. Hope you like it:yes:

No mention of Shawshank?

Seriously, watch it first.

Murphy
January 16th, 2009, 10:49 AM
I concur. Must watch that bad boy again myself.

Hulkamaniac
January 16th, 2009, 5:49 PM
Bought a few new DVDs to add to The Collection:

Capote
Little Children
In the Valley of Ellah
Sunshine
Half Nelson
The Squid and The Whale

Jimmy Zero
January 16th, 2009, 5:51 PM
I thought Half Nelson was a bit weak, to be honest. It wasn't bad, but reeked of after school special to me. Maybe it's because I was on a date when I saw it, but I just didn't enjoy it.

Also, why would a woman want to go see that movie on a date? Not surprisingly, it didn't go anywhere.

Hulkamaniac
January 16th, 2009, 5:54 PM
I actually think that its one of those few films that actually better to watch on a smaller screen in the comfort of your own home. Its pretty straight forward, but for a really intelligent, thoughtful and intimate lead performance from Ryan Gosling.

RockOverBoston
January 16th, 2009, 5:56 PM
Hey, could you maybe review "Sunshine"?

Keep meaning to watch it, keep forgetting to add it to the list, and I've gotten pretty wildly different opinions on it.

Hulkamaniac
January 16th, 2009, 5:58 PM
Sure, I'll do it as soon as I watch it.

RockOverBoston
January 16th, 2009, 6:00 PM
Mucho obligado.

Jimmy Zero
January 16th, 2009, 6:03 PM
Hey, could you maybe review "Sunshine"?

Keep meaning to watch it, keep forgetting to add it to the list, and I've gotten pretty wildly different opinions on it.

Well, I thought it looked great, and some of the theoretical science they sort of delve into about deep space travel is pretty interesting, but I thought the movie itself was shitty as fuck. It was all over the place, and the last 35 or so minutes of the film is fucking stupid. I don't want to say too much because I don't want to spoil anything.

Take that for what it's worth, though, because most people I've talked to about Sunshine have loved it.

Marlon Dingle
January 22nd, 2009, 7:23 AM
Just read that Nick Frost and Simon Pegg will be playing Thomson and Thomson in the new Tintin film. How ace is that?

Alf
January 22nd, 2009, 7:27 AM
Sunshine is promising until towards the end where it gets guffy.

Beer-Belly
January 22nd, 2009, 5:43 PM
John August is writing the screenplay for the film adaptation of Garth Ennis' Preacher comic book. Sam Mendes is directing.
John August, who just two weeks ago lamented on his screenwriting blog that his long-gestating "Shazam!" project at Warners hit a roadblock, suddenly has plenty of irons in the fire.

August has booked a pair of gigs that will see him working with top-flight directors: He's set to write "Frankenweenie" for Tim Burton and Disney after first tackling the comic book adaptation "Preacher" for Sam Mendes and Columbia.

"Frankenweenie" is based on a comedic horror short that Burton made in 1984 while a film school student. The story tells of a man who brings his dog back to life after it is killed by a car.

While the original "Frankenweenie" was a live-action project, the new one will be made using stop-motion animation and be in 3-D. Like the original, the feature version is to be shot in black & white. Burton is producing, and many of the animation artists and crew from the director's "Corpse Bride" will be involved, with the studio aiming for a 2011 release.

Allison Abbate will produce with Burton as she did on "Corpse Bride." Don Hahn will exec produce.

"Preacher" is based on the popular 1990s DC/Vertigo series created by Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon. It tells the story of a down-and-out Texas preacher, given immense powers, who teams up with a former girlfriend and a hard-drinking Irish vampire and sets out on a journey across America to find God -- who apparently had abandoned his duties in heaven -- and hold him accountable for his negligence.

Neal Moritz is producing through his Original Films banner along with Kickstart Prods.' Jason Netter.

"Frankenweenie" will mark UTA-repped August's fifth collaboration with Burton. The two worked on "Big Fish," "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and "Corpse Bride" and have "Dark Shadows," set up at Warners with Johnny Depp attached to star, in the wings.

"Shazam," meanwhile, remains in development at Warners and is looking for writers. I hope they aren't attempting to cram all 66 issues into a single film. That would be a pretty big mistake. They need to do at least a trilogy to tell the story properly.

Either way, Aaron Eckhart for the Saint of Killers.

PurePlayer
January 22nd, 2009, 7:36 PM
Saw 2010 the sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey, and I actually liked it a lot better. Maybe it was the fact that it answered a lot of questions left in the first film or the fact that there weren't moments where there wasn't anything going on except visuals of the space ships, planets, etc.

Beer-Belly
January 22nd, 2009, 10:23 PM
If the Preacher film isn't shot in Texas then fuck 'em. The setting is crucial and there is no reason to fake it.

mth
January 22nd, 2009, 11:33 PM
Saw 2010 the sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey, and I actually liked it a lot better. Maybe it was the fact that it answered a lot of questions left in the first film or the fact that there weren't moments where there wasn't anything going on except visuals of the space ships, planets, etc.

I had no idea there was a sequel...may have to check that out....although, my wife hasn't seen 2001, so I don't know if I want to sit through that again, or make her sit through it, before we could watch the sequel.

Beer-Belly
January 25th, 2009, 9:22 AM
They're making another Halloween movie.
Zombie Says Halloween 2 is Laurie's Movie
Source:Icons of Fright
January 22, 2009


Tim Sullivan, filmmaker (2001 Maniacs) and good friend of Rob Zombie, caught up to the writer and director Halloween 2 to get a read on what the next chapter in the Myers legacy is about.

Zombie begins by clearing the air on why he's back. Most of it having to do with a want to follow through on the world he created in Halloween. Introductions to the characters were made in that remake and now he's allowed to run with them in any direction he feels like.

He also emphasizes the sequel is not a redo of Rick Rosenthal's film.

Scout Taylor-Compton has not read the script, Zombie says, but it will definitely be her movie. "She's not the happy-go-lucky girl, now she's a very f**ked up famous person, trying to make sense of this," he explains. "It takes place over some time, but it starts that night [of the murders] and then essentially, I mean...the first one, Laurie has no idea what just happened. But then she wakes up the next day and someone's going, 'Oh by the way, your parents are dead. All your friends are dead. And actually, your brother is uh, Charles Manson.' You know? 'How do you feel about that?' See what I mean?"JUST FUCKING STOP.

PurePlayer
January 25th, 2009, 12:23 PM
That's another Halloween movie that I won't see. If they want to be a sequel, why not finish the story of the original Halloween? The last Halloween ended with a cliffhanger, so why not finish that story? This is just stupid.

Thirteen
January 25th, 2009, 12:59 PM
I watched two movies I haven't seen since I was in college. Heavy Metal and Heavy Metal 2000.

They're classics. Not really good by any means, but classics just the same. The first one was from the 80s, and has voices such as John Candy in it. It has several short adult animations based on comics from the Heavy Metal magazine with a killer Heavy Metal soundtrack. The animation itself isn't the best, and the stories range from not bad to awful, but once again I say, it's a must see, at least once.

Heavy Metal 2000, to me, isn't as good as the original. It's one overall storyline, instead of the original formula with several shorter animations. The animation has improved, but it's still not the best. They even throw in some CGI at the end, which seemed really out of place with the rest of the movie. The story is ok at times and horrible at others. The soundtrack is still good, but, to me, not as good as the original one, but still worth the listen to if you're fans of heavy metal music. To me, this is a skip-it type of movie, but if there's nothing else on, give it a watch.


Also, I know people on here aren't that big on reality shows, but is anyone else watching 13--Fear is Real on the CW. To me it's a fun little reality competition show. That is a mix between Survivor and Friday the 13th. They took 13 strangers, threw them out into the woods, where a "killer" puts them through creepy challenges: such as being buried alive and having to figure out how to escape...and the losers he "kills" off. There's also a strategy to it, as one of them has stolen the "death box" which allows for them to kill off three other people. The last survivor wins $666,666.

Jimmy Zero
January 25th, 2009, 3:40 PM
They're making another Halloween movie.

*Zombie pontificating on his next piece of shit movie*

JUST FUCKING STOP.

For a guy that loves horror as much as he does, Zombie really has no clue about how to make a good one.

He has what? Three under his belt to date? If he's got more than 1000 Corpses, Rejects, Halloween and I'm unawares, I wish to remain so. None of those movies are worth a shit.

Beefy
January 25th, 2009, 4:04 PM
I watched two movies I haven't seen since I was in college. Heavy Metal and Heavy Metal 2000.

They're classics. Not really good by any means, but classics just the same. The first one was from the 80s, and has voices such as John Candy in it. It has several short adult animations based on comics from the Heavy Metal magazine with a killer Heavy Metal soundtrack. The animation itself isn't the best, and the stories range from not bad to awful, but once again I say, it's a must see, at least once.

Heavy Metal 2000, to me, isn't as good as the original. It's one overall storyline, instead of the original formula with several shorter animations. The animation has improved, but it's still not the best. They even throw in some CGI at the end, which seemed really out of place with the rest of the movie. The story is ok at times and horrible at others. The soundtrack is still good, but, to me, not as good as the original one, but still worth the listen to if you're fans of heavy metal music. To me, this is a skip-it type of movie, but if there's nothing else on, give it a watch.


Have you seen the recent South Park homage to Heavy Metal?

PurePlayer
January 25th, 2009, 4:07 PM
I have to disagree with that. I actually liked Rejects a good deal.

Anyway, I just saw Mr. Brooks, and I have to say that it was a pretty good movie. Going into the movie, I didn't think I would like it much, but I thought Costner did a decent job, and the movie is full of twists. Give it a watch if you have the time.

Jimmy Zero
January 25th, 2009, 4:21 PM
Speaking of Costner, am I the only one who actually really enjoys Waterworld?

Now, don't get me wrong I'm certainly not saying that it's some sort of great cinematic feat, but it's fun as hell to watch and some of the action scenes are pretty cool. Plus, Dennis Hopper is pretty cool. I mean, yeah it's basically Road Warrior on jet skis, but is that really such a bad thing? Road Warrior is fucking bad ass.

Ringo
January 25th, 2009, 4:25 PM
I feel the same way :yes:

Always liked Waterworld and give it a watch whenever it's on Tele.

Hulkamaniac
January 25th, 2009, 4:26 PM
I cant think of a single Costner film that I didnt enjoy in one way or another. I think that he's an incredibly relaxing actor to watch.

Jimmy Zero
January 25th, 2009, 4:29 PM
You didn't like JFK? That movie is tight.

Ringo
January 25th, 2009, 4:30 PM
I really like Field Of Dreams, Open Range, The War. Fuck, even TIN CUP :yes:

Ringo
January 25th, 2009, 4:31 PM
You didn't like JFK? That movie is tight.

He said he can't think of a single Costner movie he DIDN'T enjoy.

Jimmy Zero
January 25th, 2009, 4:35 PM
I totally read that wrong. I thought he meant he didn't enjoy them but he didn't not enjoy them either.

But yeah, never understood what was so great about Field of Dreams, even as a baseball fan. I really like JFK, Bull Durham and the Untouchables. Thirteen Days is also quite good. And shit, dude, Tin Cup is a nice little movie.

Hulkamaniac
January 25th, 2009, 4:38 PM
Tin Cup is actually one of my favourite Costner movies.

Even if it was a guilty pleasure, I've never seen a Costner film that I didnt enjoy. Maybe not as a classic, maybe obviously shit but fun, sometimes a truly good film. He's an underrated actor these days.

Beefy
January 25th, 2009, 4:38 PM
Speaking of Costner, am I the only one who actually really enjoys Waterworld?

Now, don't get me wrong I'm certainly not saying that it's some sort of great cinematic feat, but it's fun as hell to watch and some of the action scenes are pretty cool. Plus, Dennis Hopper is pretty cool. I mean, yeah it's basically Road Warrior on jet skis, but is that really such a bad thing? Road Warrior is fucking bad ass.

The problem with Waterworld wasn't that it wasn't a good movie, it was that no one went to see it despite it being the most expensive film of all time (at that point). In it's own right it's certainly not a bad film.

Hulkamaniac
January 25th, 2009, 4:41 PM
Yeah. At the time it was considered to be the biggest box-office disaster of all time, a huge budget and not great returns at all (although that label was unfair cos it actually delivered a modest profit). But thats just the way it goes sometimes. There were real risks that Titanic would go that way at one stage, even for the first couple of weeks of the films release until it started growing with continuously improving box office returns. Yet in my mind, I'd rather watch Waterworld than Titanic anyday.

Thirteen
January 25th, 2009, 4:41 PM
Have you seen the recent South Park homage to Heavy Metal?

I just do not like South Park, other than the movie, which is one of my favorites, but if they did a homage to Heavy Metal, I may have to check it out.

Jimmy Zero
January 25th, 2009, 4:47 PM
Yeah. At the time it was considered to be the biggest box-office disaster of all time, a huge budget and not great returns at all (although that label was unfair cos it actually delivered a modest profit). But thats just the way it goes sometimes. There were real risks that Titanic would go that way at one stage, even for the first couple of weeks of the films release until it started growing with continuously improving box office returns. Yet in my mind, I'd rather watch Waterworld than Titanic anyday.

To be fair, I'd rather watch surgery footage than Titanic.

Beefy
January 25th, 2009, 5:47 PM
I just do not like South Park, other than the movie, which is one of my favorites, but if they did a homage to Heavy Metal, I may have to check it out.

Major Boobage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Boobage)

If you're a Yank you should be able to stream it from the South Park Studios website.

foleybumps
January 25th, 2009, 6:00 PM
I just watched I Know Who Killed Me

:rofl:

Thirteen
January 25th, 2009, 6:13 PM
I just watched I Know Who Killed Me

:rofl:

Did you lose a bet? Or was it some psychological torture experiment?

foleybumps
January 25th, 2009, 6:48 PM
No, a friend told me he thought it was the worst movie ever made, so I watched it because I have a guilty pleasure for really bad movies, and in fact enjoy them more than a lot of critically acclaimed movies.

I mean, if you're going to make a bad movie, why not make it really bad?

My favorite parts included: her readings of her 'writing', and all of the police scenes where they were 'putting the pieces together'.

PurePlayer
January 25th, 2009, 7:04 PM
Speaking of bad movies, I watch Ed Wood last week. I am not saying that Ed Wood was a bad movie by any means because it was a really good movie. It's the true story of Ed Wood directing/writing some of the worst movies ever made. I thought it was a very good movie, one of the better Burton/Depp films. I would be interested in watching some of those movies that Wood directed back in the day to see how horrible they really were.

foleybumps
January 25th, 2009, 7:15 PM
Plan 9 from Outer Space, which is widely regarded as the worst movie ever made, quite possibly is. That would be a good place to start.

I enjoyed it quite a bit as well.

Beer-Belly
January 25th, 2009, 8:50 PM
For a guy that loves horror as much as he does, Zombie really has no clue about how to make a good one.

He has what? Three under his belt to date? If he's got more than 1000 Corpses, Rejects, Halloween and I'm unawares, I wish to remain so. None of those movies are worth a shit.And for someone who apparently has a hard-on for real life serial killers, Zombie appears to just be pulling stuff out of his ass. He's compared Michael Myers to Charles Manson on too many occasions. Manson was a deranged cult leader who was convinced that a "race war" was looming. How exactly does he have anything to do with a fictional mute serial killer with seemingly super natural strength? It doesn't. He's missed the point completely.

Young Michael should have looked like a choir boy. Of course Zombie went the ultimate cliche route and made him a little white trash turd who listens to KISS. What a fucking asshole.

I steal cable
January 26th, 2009, 8:05 AM
FINALLY started to watch Firefly. After the first two episodes and I can see why Fox canceled it - it's well written, funny and has interesting characters. I might just have a Firefly marathon today then get onto watching Serenity.

Hobbit
January 26th, 2009, 9:49 AM
FINALLY started to watch Firefly. After the first two episodes and I can see why Fox canceled it - it's well written, funny and has interesting characters.

aahahahaha indeed. Dark Angel also suffered because of those.

Fox :freak:

I steal cable
January 27th, 2009, 1:21 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7851989.stm

Red Dwarf is back for a 2 parter

Organasm
January 28th, 2009, 6:53 PM
The Wachowskis are producing a movie called NINJA ASSASSIN:
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/ninja-assassin-lets-us-know-when-hes-coming.php

Starring this guy called 'Rain'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5B0XItDpSM
I can only hope it's as awesome as this video.

EDIT: Closest thing to a trailer for it.
http://screenrant.com/fight-ninja-assassin-rob-4904/

PurePlayer
January 28th, 2009, 7:04 PM
So I just watched The Sting for the first time and it was like the perfect movie. I saw that there was a Sting 2. Does anyone here recommend I give it a watch? I feel like I have to watch it no matter how bad it will probably be though.

Hulkamaniac
January 28th, 2009, 7:10 PM
No.

Its often said that The Sting is one of the true flawless films, and it really is.

KorruptJustice
January 30th, 2009, 2:41 AM
Yeah, The Sting is great, but Sting 2 is a movie that should be avoided.

Ochoa
January 30th, 2009, 10:33 PM
So, I feel like watching a movie. Which one should I watch first? The Wrestler, W. or Notorious?

Atty
January 30th, 2009, 11:02 PM
Common answer will be "The Wrestler" so I'll go with "W"

KorruptJustice
January 31st, 2009, 5:29 AM
So, still having some Christmas money left over I decided that the only sensible thing to do was blow it on DVDs. I went and bought:

The Shield - Seasons 4 & 5
City of God
JFK
Futurama: The Beast with a Billion Backs
RocknRolla
They Live
The Aristocrats

Which pushes my DVD collection to around 275. Actually broke my own rule by buying some DVDs that I haven't seen yet (Futurama, They Live, and The Aristocrats), but the last two were cheap, and I'm a huge Futurama fan, so I figure that it's worth it, especially since they were bought with extra money.

Keano's Magic Hat
January 31st, 2009, 7:47 AM
I refuse to watch the Sting with a girlfriend (or any other Paul Newman film), you can't help but feel lacking in the looks department when he's on screen :mad:

Hulkamaniac
January 31st, 2009, 7:50 AM
And charm, and talent and worth, in fact pretty much anything.

Keano's Magic Hat
January 31st, 2009, 7:51 AM
And charm, and talent and worth, in fact pretty much anything.

Yeah, true. Some people just have it all :cry: :D

Guy
January 31st, 2009, 7:51 AM
I'd say being alive is a major advantage

Hulkamaniac
January 31st, 2009, 8:00 AM
I can be alive for another 100 years and I'll never accomplish as much as Newman and even at 126 I'll never be as famous or well remembered as he already is.

Pete Cash
January 31st, 2009, 8:17 AM
Has anyone read the twilight series. God what a pile of shit that is.

Hulkamaniac
January 31st, 2009, 8:22 AM
My Sister is reading it at the moment and apparently they are the most popular books that there has ever been at the school library. Why the fuck have you read them?

N.E.R.F.
January 31st, 2009, 8:26 AM
My ex loves them. She also claims to like classic literature. Women are really stupid.

Pete Cash
January 31st, 2009, 8:50 AM
My Sister is reading it at the moment and apparently they are the most popular books that there has ever been at the school library. Why the fuck have you read them?

I read anything that is popular so long as it isn't going to be a hassle for me to finish. Plus I was told it was so bad it becomes comical.

I thought it would be on par with your Harry Potter's and your Da Vinci Code's but this baby is in a league of its own for awfulness. It is not only awful but sends a fucking terrible message.

One plot point is that Werewolves can mark babies as their future wives. It has a girl getting married straight out of school to a character 100 years older than her, who offers her to another man, if she wanted to get pregnant (cause vampires can't you know... ejaculate), gets her pregnant anyway.

It is awful. Just awful. The birth scene is the most disturbing thing I have ever read. If she had wrote it that disturbing on purpose she would be a fucking brilliant writer. Oh and that Edward guy is such a faggot.

Pete Cash
January 31st, 2009, 8:53 AM
Someone just told me on MSN that he could get her pregnant because he apparently had a hundred year old load of cum inside him because he never masturbated when he was alive.

I am hoping the person who told me this is just ill informed and that is not the official reason.

EDIT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-turfrcQY-w

Keano's Magic Hat
January 31st, 2009, 9:03 AM
WHAT THE FUCK!?

Look at that big fat moose, fucking hell. What's her accent about aswell? She is hideous, crikey.

Morrison
January 31st, 2009, 10:22 AM
Speaking of Newman, I just watched The Verdict a few days ago. Enjoyable film. Ya really feel for Frank as he keeps getting fucked over.

And Sidney Lumet has become one of my favorite directors. Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, Network, The Verdict and Before the Devil Knows You're Dead are all fantastic.

Dream-Evil
January 31st, 2009, 10:24 AM
Went and saw The Spirit yesterday. While it looked great visually, overall I felt it was pretty meh.

Keano's Magic Hat
January 31st, 2009, 10:39 AM
Speaking of Newman, I just watched The Verdict a few days ago. Enjoyable film. Ya really feel for Frank as he keeps getting fucked over.

And Sidney Lumet has become one of my favorite directors. Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, Network, The Verdict and Before the Devil Knows You're Dead are all fantastic.

Also, 12 Angry Men, one of the greatest movies ever.

Morrison
January 31st, 2009, 10:43 AM
Also, 12 Angry Men, one of the greatest movies ever.

Fuck yes, didn't notice that in the filmography, but yes. I remember watching that film in school, and being blown away even at a younger age.

Keano's Magic Hat
January 31st, 2009, 10:55 AM
He truly is a fantastic director.

Jimmy Zero
January 31st, 2009, 11:20 AM
Network is one of my all time favs. That movie is just wonderful, and has aged pretty much perfectly.

Hulkamaniac
January 31st, 2009, 11:29 AM
Speaking of Newman, I just watched The Verdict a few days ago. Enjoyable film. Ya really feel for Frank as he keeps getting fucked over.

And Sidney Lumet has become one of my favorite directors. Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, Network, The Verdict and Before the Devil Knows You're Dead are all fantastic.

Its arguably Newman's best performance, though I prefer Cool Hand Luke and The Hustler better.


I read anything that is popular so long as it isn't going to be a hassle for me to finish. Plus I was told it was so bad it becomes comical.

I thought it would be on par with your Harry Potter's and your Da Vinci Code's but this baby is in a league of its own for awfulness. It is not only awful but sends a fucking terrible message.

One plot point is that Werewolves can mark babies as their future wives. It has a girl getting married straight out of school to a character 100 years older than her, who offers her to another man, if she wanted to get pregnant (cause vampires can't you know... ejaculate), gets her pregnant anyway.

It is awful. Just awful. The birth scene is the most disturbing thing I have ever read. If she had wrote it that disturbing on purpose she would be a fucking brilliant writer. Oh and that Edward guy is such a faggot.

But its 4 books long totalling over 2000 pages mate, surely you havent read it all if its so poor? My sister is absolutely loving them, but then she's the target age. I do keep trying to slip her some quality books every now and again, but its this kind of stuff that gets her hooked and English is her least favourite subject, so I figure that reading anything is better than reading nothing. I'm gradually trying to move her on.

Morrison
January 31st, 2009, 11:37 AM
Its arguably Newman's best performance, though I prefer Cool Hand Luke and The Hustler better.


Yeah, I'd definitely put Cool Hand Luke above The Verdict, but I could see why a case would be made here.

N.E.R.F.
January 31st, 2009, 5:51 PM
I just watched Miami Vice. No joke, I would classify it among the ten worst films I have ever seen.

Fro
February 2nd, 2009, 12:55 PM
I was watching The Patriot over the weekend... great flick. I won't say it's better, but I like it more than Braveheart. That scene where Mel catches up to the redcoats and brutally kills them to save Heath is immense.

N.E.R.F.
February 2nd, 2009, 4:30 PM
Just ordered The Wire season 2 - avoiding the Wire thread because obviously they've had 5 seasons and I'd get something spoiled (I already know some stuff due to certain people being on the cover of certain season box sets).

But that will keep me entertained for the next few weeks at least. And once I'm up to date I'll move on to either The Shield, although some people I've spoken to about it aren't massive fans, or The Sopranos. Which I have never seen an episode of, shoot me. Or One Tree Hill; I was round a mate's earlier and she was watching it - all I know is that there's about six or seven very attractive women in it.

So which should I go for after The Wire?

Morrison
February 2nd, 2009, 4:35 PM
Well, I'd think it'd be better to finish off The Wire, if you're enjoying it, before throwing yourself into a whole other show.

But if you're gonna do it anyway, The Sopranos all the way.

N.E.R.F.
February 2nd, 2009, 4:37 PM
Yeah I meant after all seasons of The Wire had been caught up on. Will buy s3 when I finish s2 and so on.

I do need the Losts as well, although I've seen them so not so much of a priority. My brother has every 24, so again not a priority. I like new shiny stuff and my DVD collection isn't growing fast enough :(

Fro
February 2nd, 2009, 4:54 PM
Sopranos, no doubt. It is incredible.

PurePlayer
February 2nd, 2009, 5:20 PM
I was watching The Patriot over the weekend... great flick. I won't say it's better, but I like it more than Braveheart. That scene where Mel catches up to the redcoats and brutally kills them to save Heath is immense.

I thought exactly the same thing. I watched for the first time on Saturday, and the scene where he and his younger sounds shoot down the redcoats was awesome. I would actually rate it higher than Braveheart.

Thirteen
February 2nd, 2009, 5:49 PM
I have always loved The Patriot. To me, it's one of my favorite Mel Gibson movies. Not only is he great in it, but the supporting cast brings so much to the table making it that much better of a movie.

Matt E
February 2nd, 2009, 6:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRhjBq2kYj4

Supposedly a sound clip of Bale going mental on the Terminator set :D

Hobbit
February 2nd, 2009, 6:56 PM
ahahahahaha such fury :lol: what a dickhead

NERF, after The Wire sack The Sopranos off for a while and watch Generation Kill. It's by the same people who did The Wire and only lasts for about 8 episodes anyway so it won't take long. It's about American soldiers going into Iraq and bumbling about and is amazing.