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PurePlayer
June 5th, 2008, 9:16 PM
All of them would be fascinating. Could even add 'The Machinist' to the list too.


I just saw the movie a couple days ago. I am glad that you guys all recommended it. Fantastic film.

Ringo
June 6th, 2008, 9:55 AM
So I watched The Squid & The Whale earlier. Definitely not the most cheerful of films, but both moving and poignant. Very short at just over an hour long, but they still pack a whole load of stuff into that hour. Great stuff.

VanillaJello
June 6th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Be on the lookout for Anchorman 2 starting up sometime soon...

From a Steve Carell article...

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/06/04/steve-carell-says-hes-abolutely-down-for-anchorman-sequel/


Just last week, Will Ferrell attended one of our MTV Movie Awards Sneak Peek Week screenings of “The Foot Fist Way,” dropped a Ron Burgundy imitation on the audience, and confirmed that he and writer/director Adam McKay are in the beginning stages of plotting out a sequel. Now, the star of “Get Smart” has confirmed that they’ve been in touch with him, and that he’s eager to step back into the Seventies.

I'd be all for it... but only if they can somehow top the first one. I still to this day find Anchorman to be the funniest of all of the "frat pack" movies...

RockOverBoston
June 6th, 2008, 2:17 PM
So I watched The Squid & The Whale earlier. Definitely not the most cheerful of films, but both moving and poignant. Very short at just over an hour long, but they still pack a whole load of stuff into that hour. Great stuff.

Very definitly a busy little flick for sure.

Underrated? I dare say so. Fewer people have seen it than should be the case.

mth
June 6th, 2008, 3:41 PM
The wife and I watched that flick, and both thought it was pretty darn good.

Beer-Belly
June 7th, 2008, 7:01 AM
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/06/06/religulous-movie-trailer/#more-11900

I pretty much despise Bill Maher. He's a prick and his pseudo-intellectual musings make me want to set him ablaze. This movie, however, looks promising. It's directed by Larry Charles of Borat fame.

They should have gotten Christopher Hitchens for this film. He'd have done it for a bottle of booze and a carton of smokes. He's also a smart fellow who has actually traveled the world and studied the dangers of religion.

virms
June 7th, 2008, 7:16 AM
Bill Maher may not be the most perfect man in the world, but he always raises opinions from both sides of the coin even when it doesn't favor him. The trailer that you linked actually looks amazing and I can't wait.

Fro
June 7th, 2008, 10:06 PM
My friends are going to You Don't Mess With the Zohan tonight. After much deliberation, I decided to stay home because after all, it does look pretty awful. Then again, Grandma's Boy is one of my favorite comedies in recent years, so I do still have some faith in the Sandler crew. Anyone see Zohan?

VanillaJello
June 7th, 2008, 10:10 PM
Bill Maher may not be the most perfect man in the world, but he always raises opinions from both sides of the coin even when it doesn't favor him. The trailer that you linked actually looks amazing and I can't wait.

Not to call you out... but when is the last time... if ever.... that Maher has said anything remotely positive about a Republican/conservative viewpoint?

KorruptJustice
June 8th, 2008, 10:22 AM
Had a giftcard that I had to use, so I went out and bought a few DVDs a couple days ago. I got:

Casablanca
3:10 to Yuma
No Country for Old Men
Good Will Hunting
Chinatown

I'd actually never seen Chinatown before, and I was absolutely blown away by it, especially by Jack's acting. Before this, I'd always considered his best acting job to be in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, but I think his acting in Chinatown was even better than that.

I also rented a few movies this weekend, and was pissed that every copy of There Will be Blood was gone. So I ended up renting:

AVP: Requiem - much better than the first one, but it still sucked.

National Treasure 2 - Not very good, but I'm a sucker for treasure hunt movies, so I kind of enjoyed it. I do wish Sean Bean's character had somehow managed to come back, though, as I enjoyed his role in the first one more than I did Ed Harris's in this one.

Full Metal Jacket - The first half of this film is amazing, but the rest of it feels pretty average to me. Am I the only one that feels this way about it? :dunno:

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 10:29 AM
Full Metal Jacket - The first half of this film is amazing, but the rest of it feels pretty average to me. Am I the only one that feels this way about it? :dunno:

Nope.

thetony
June 8th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Full Metal Jacket - The first half of this film is amazing, but the rest of it feels pretty average to me. Am I the only one that feels this way about it? :dunno:

Some Kubrick films do that. Look at Clockwork Orange. The movie is great the whole way through, but hits a stop in action about mid way through when the character gets instintutionalized There are some parts of violence and gore afterwards of course, but nothing compared to the first half of it.

I only remember up to a certain part in Full Metal Jacket, the part where they go to South America and find some hookers. After that it's a bit hazy. Must watch it again..

N.E.R.F.
June 8th, 2008, 11:27 AM
South America? Wow.

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Some Kubrick films do that. Look at Clockwork Orange. The movie is great the whole way through, but hits a stop in action about mid way through when the character gets instintutionalized There are some parts of violence and gore afterwards of course, but nothing compared to the first half of it.

I only remember up to a certain part in Full Metal Jacket, the part where they go to South America and find some hookers. After that it's a bit hazy. Must watch it again..

Just get the fuck out of here. You completely missed the point of Clockwork, and don't even know where Full Metal Jacket takes place. Thanks for chiming in, though. Fucking a, I weep for the future.

Ringo
June 8th, 2008, 11:36 AM
Jesus christ. South America for fuck sake. What?

Where is Vietnam, tony?

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 11:42 AM
In South America, duh!

House of Pancakes
June 8th, 2008, 11:44 AM
He's obviously right, though.

2001: A Space Odyssey has no car chases or explosions throughout the entire thing! And, really, A Clockwork Orange starts off cool with the violence, but then there's no violence! What could the film possibly be about? amirite?

It's also totally unrealistic in Paths of Glory, because it takes place in Delaware and Delaware is NOT like that.

House of Pancakes
June 8th, 2008, 11:46 AM
I'd actually never seen Chinatown before, and I was absolutely blown away by it, especially by Jack's acting. Before this, I'd always considered his best acting job to be in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, but I think his acting in Chinatown was even better than that.


Yeah, Chinatown is one of my favorite movies. For me, the best acting came from John Huston, who may or may not have influenced Daniel Day-Lewis' mannerisms in There Will Be Blood.

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Also, I don't know about you guys, but I've never been to a hotel that puked up blood out of the elevator shaft.

WHAT THE FUCK?

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 11:47 AM
Yeah, Chinatown is one of my favorite movies. For me, the best acting came from John Huston, who may or may not have influenced Daniel Day-Lewis' mannerisms in There Will Be Blood.

You bastard, you ruined the sarcastic flow.

Faye is smoking in Chinatown. She used to be so gorgeous. Love Bonnie and Clyde.

House of Pancakes
June 8th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Well, honestly, one of the reasons I don't like Lord of the Rings is because of how unrealistic it is. None of that shit would ever happen in real life.

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 12:00 PM
You led a sheltered life. I used to hang out with Hobbits and Dwarves all the time when I was but a wee lad. In fact, a friend and I went on a very important mission once because we had this ring that some old dude said was pretty dangerous so we threw it in a volcano and had gay sex on the side of it.

Zen
June 8th, 2008, 12:21 PM
Well, honestly, one of the reasons I don't like Lord of the Rings is because of how unrealistic it is. None of that shit would ever happen in real life.

Not really, sure there's a ton of fantastical elements to the movies, but the basis of the book and films were the struggle between good and evil.
Sauron wanting to rule Middle Earth, trying to reclaim the one thing that gives him this great power. It's no different than some dictator trying to set his will on everyone and doing so with destructive forces like nuclear power or what have you.
A lot of what Tolkien wrote about with his books are based loosely on the war he fought in.

All that's "not real" are the characters and the magical stuff, but aside from that, it's not hard to grasp, and knowing it's a fantasy movie, should be quite expected.

edit: Unless HOP was being sarcastic there due to what just occured on the last page, I dont know. I just read all that after I posted. The films rule all the same.

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 12:25 PM
LOL way to go.

BAHAHAHA nice edit.

The_Mike
June 8th, 2008, 12:26 PM
Zen, he was kidding.

Zen
June 8th, 2008, 12:29 PM
Yeah I realized that, it's just that his post was the first post on my page, and I figured some sort of LOTR chatter had occured and he was chiming in on them.

Ah well.

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Ok, but back to rambling discussions:

Anybody still got movies they watched as a kid that they still watch now? Uncle Buck was on TV the other day, and I'd forgotten just how amazingly awesome that movie is.

"Ever heard of a ritual killing? Gnaw on her face in public like that again, and you'll be one. Meh heh heh heh!"

"Get in your mouse and get out of here!"

"What's his last name? Spray?"

What a hilarious movie.

KorruptJustice
June 8th, 2008, 1:39 PM
Ok, but back to rambling discussions:

Anybody still got movies they watched as a kid that they still watch now? Uncle Buck was on TV the other day, and I'd forgotten just how amazingly awesome that movie is.

"Ever heard of a ritual killing? Gnaw on her face in public like that again, and you'll be one. Meh heh heh heh!"

"Get in your mouse and get out of here!"

"What's his last name? Spray?"

What a hilarious movie.

I have three that I used to watch as a kid and continue to watch today: Tremors, Gremlins, and Abbott & Costello meet Frankenstein.

Chris
June 8th, 2008, 1:58 PM
Ghostbusters would be mine. The ghost in the library scared the hell out of me when I was younger. It's one of those films where I can remember the exact tone of voice in dialogue scenes, the music used in specific scenes, etc.

I wouldn't watch Short Circuit very often, but I did pick it up cheap on DVD in America two years ago.

Hulkamaniac
June 8th, 2008, 3:26 PM
A lot of what Tolkien wrote about with his books are based loosely on the war he fought in.


Not according to Tolkien.

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 5:37 PM
Ghostbusters would be mine. The ghost in the library scared the hell out of me when I was younger. It's one of those films where I can remember the exact tone of voice in dialogue scenes, the music used in specific scenes, etc.

I wouldn't watch Short Circuit very often, but I did pick it up cheap on DVD in America two years ago.

JONNY 5 IS ALIVE!!!

Oh my god, I used to LOVE those Short Circuit movies. The second one where he got all punk rock to beat up the bad guys? Ultimate cheesey goodness.

And yeah, that beginning scene with the ghost in the library was the first time I realized that I liked movies to scare the shit out of me.

Cactus Lem
June 8th, 2008, 5:41 PM
Ok, but back to rambling discussions:

Anybody still got movies they watched as a kid that they still watch now? Uncle Buck was on TV the other day, and I'd forgotten just how amazingly awesome that movie is.

"Ever heard of a ritual killing? Gnaw on her face in public like that again, and you'll be one. Meh heh heh heh!"

"Get in your mouse and get out of here!"

"What's his last name? Spray?"

What a hilarious movie.

Hell yeah. There are loads of movies that I adored as a kid, and still love today, with Uncle Buck being one of them. I watched Uncle Buck a couple of months back actually, it's just a fun film. Don't need to take things too seriously, just sit back and laugh along with John Candy for 90 minutes.

I like most John Hughes films from the 80's actually, and watched the majority for the first time as a kid, with both Home Alone films being the other stand out's. I know Home Alone 2 almost word for word :ashamed:

The Back to the Future movies have been some of my favourite films since about the age of 5, the first two especially. When I went to Universal Studios in LA, the back lot tour took us down to the set used for Hill Valley in Back to the Future, and I went crazy with excitment. We drove right past the Clock Tower :hyper:

I also still love the animated Transformers film, and a whole bunch of Arnie films that I'd watch behind my mum's back as a kid, as well as Die Hard.

thetony
June 8th, 2008, 7:48 PM
Jesus christ. South America for fuck sake. What?

Where is Vietnam, tony?

Woah now, as I said it's been awhile since I've seen the movie. All I remember from that part is mexican looking chicks. I must've thought they were on vacation or something. :lol: :dunno:

Jimmy Zero
June 8th, 2008, 7:55 PM
Mexican looking chicks.

Fucking shit, man. What do you call this?
http://www.gatewayofafrica.com/artists/images/luckydube.jpg
Chinese? You're such a dumb ass.

thetony
June 8th, 2008, 7:56 PM
Rasta man. That's one culture I do know. I saw the movie along time ago. I shouldn't be making excuses, but it was just a mistake. Damn..

SideburnZ
June 8th, 2008, 9:33 PM
I loved that movie Platoon, the way they captured the essance of Mexico in it was brilliant. It wasn't as great Apocalypse Now, which clearly took place in Canada.

Beer-Belly
June 9th, 2008, 7:12 AM
Rasta man. That's one culture I do know. I saw the movie along time ago. I shouldn't be making excuses, but it was just a mistake. Damn..

No, I'm pretty sure you know nothing about the Rastafarian culture other than "Bob Marley was one, maaaan".

son_of_foley
June 9th, 2008, 7:16 AM
Made to watch the bucket list. Was ok but there was a shite CGI monet aboust skydiving. IT WAS SOOOO BAD

VanillaJello
June 9th, 2008, 10:17 AM
The Back to the Future movies have been some of my favourite films since about the age of 5, the first two especially. When I went to Universal Studios in LA, the back lot tour took us down to the set used for Hill Valley in Back to the Future, and I went crazy with excitment. We drove right past the Clock Tower :hyper:



You're lucky then. The clock tower burned to the ground in the recent fire at the Universal Studios lot.

What a shame.

Jimmy Zero
June 9th, 2008, 10:20 AM
A lot of shit got destroyed in that fire. A buddy of mine who's "in the industry" (what a bunch of faggots, seriously) thinks that Universal was in on the fire because they're going bankrupt and want the insurance money. Who knows?

Hulkamaniac
June 9th, 2008, 12:20 PM
Bought:

No Country for Old Men
Cloverfield
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

VanillaJello
June 9th, 2008, 1:14 PM
Anyone else get motion sickness from Cloverfield?

I've never had a problem with movies before... but the hand held camera work got to me while in the theaters.

Hulkamaniac
June 9th, 2008, 1:14 PM
Deliberately.

The Masked Jobber
June 9th, 2008, 1:25 PM
Cloverfield gave me goosebumps when I saw it, I think it was mostly down to the sound though as it was immensely loud in the cinema.

PurePlayer
June 9th, 2008, 1:51 PM
Anyone else get motion sickness from Cloverfield?

I've never had a problem with movies before... but the hand held camera work got to me while in the theaters.

That's the point my man.

Great movie.

GeezaTap
June 10th, 2008, 12:14 PM
Bought:The Diving Bell and the Butterfly

:yes:

Probably what won him the Bond villian job.

Hulkamaniac
June 10th, 2008, 3:19 PM
Reports are going around saying that Paul Newman is dying from lung cancer. I sincerely hope not. If anyone deserves to live forever, this is that man. Please...that cbac now and give Newman another 30 years.

The_Mike
June 11th, 2008, 9:51 AM
That sucks about Paul Newman. Hopefully it's just a rumour or exaggeration or something.

Speaking of rumours, according to IMDB and Wikipedia (yeah, the best sources ever) there are plans to make a feature of King Lear, starring Anthony Hopkins as King Lear and Keira Knightley as Cordelia. Lear is my absolute favourite Shakespeare play, and they are two of my favourite actors, so I would love to see that happen. Were I to do ridiculous fantasy fan-casting of such a play, those two would be the ones I'd want for the roles. So, any chance of this actually happening?

Slare
June 13th, 2008, 9:40 PM
Anyone seen that Doomsday film that was out recently?

Just watched it there, what a fucking weird film.

Hulkamaniac
June 14th, 2008, 8:56 AM
So...my college Head of Department and I have been planning some genres for study next year and I've come up with a rather lovely list of comic book films for a neat and tidy, wonderfully creative and very useful scheme of work.

She's come up with a list of average-bad movies and called them 'Teen Drama', when most of them arent even teen drama. I've adapted her list and come up with films that I feel are good as well as from the same genre, films like:

Breakfast Club
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Ghost World
Donnie Darko
Garden State
Napoleon Dynamite
Juno

Problem is, I dont really know how to define this genre succintly. Words I'm thinking of are 'Cult, Teen, Youth Pictures, Indie films', yet there doesnt seem to be a generic term as far as I can think of. How would you lot best categorise them?

Thirteen
June 14th, 2008, 9:02 AM
I don't know what I would call it, but I enjoyed all the movies on your list.

Slare
June 14th, 2008, 9:38 AM
Something like 'Youth Culture' or 'Teenage Society'.

Cult would probably need to fit in somewhere too, but 'teenage cult' seems slightly un-nerving.

Jimmy Zero
June 14th, 2008, 9:54 AM
So...my college Head of Department and I have been planning some genres for study next year and I've come up with a rather lovely list of comic book films for a neat and tidy, wonderfully creative and very useful scheme of work.

She's come up with a list of average-bad movies and called them 'Teen Drama', when most of them arent even teen drama. I've adapted her list and come up with films that I feel are good as well as from the same genre, films like:

Breakfast Club
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Ghost World
Donnie Darko
Garden State
Napoleon Dynamite
Juno

Problem is, I dont really know how to define this genre succintly. Words I'm thinking of are 'Cult, Teen, Youth Pictures, Indie films', yet there doesnt seem to be a generic term as far as I can think of. How would you lot best categorise them?

Altrernative Drama? Not to make it sound all faggy, but those movies all appeal to the same group that loves alternative rock/indie rock. I mean, Judd Nelson, you know? They really wouldn't fall under my definition of a "cult" movie. When I think of a cult movie, I think of Toxic Avenger or Streets of Fire.

mth
June 15th, 2008, 12:23 AM
Just watched The Number 23. Heard some rather average/not too good reviews of it, but the wife and I both thought it was decent. It wasn't awesome, but it was pretty good.
One random thing, though:
The review I read in the paper said that the dog talked in it, and I seem to think when I asked my friend who'd seen it about it, he confirmed it. But, we just watched it, and the dog didn't talk at all. Anyone who's seen it, let me know if the dog talked in whatever version you saw.

Guy
June 15th, 2008, 7:17 AM
I don't remember a talking dog.

But I do remember a terribly bad film, with convinient plot devices to fufil it's non-sensical and truly terrible original plotline.

:p

Some of the "story" sequences had some nice effects on them though.

mth
June 16th, 2008, 1:53 PM
Well, we watched Children of Men last night, which made up for it then.
Oddly enough, my wife really liked 23 a lot, and said she'd rank it higher than CoM, like 8/10. I'm the other way around, I thought 23 was maybe 6/10, but CoM was probably 8/10.

Hulkamaniac
June 16th, 2008, 2:05 PM
You're right, she's wrong.

mth
June 16th, 2008, 7:12 PM
I know, and I'll take quiet satisfaction in knowing that.

Tim
June 16th, 2008, 7:26 PM
I watched Funny Games the other night, and couldn't get into it.

I kept waiting for Naomi Watts to escape and go after those dicks and kill them but it didn't happen. It seemed like there was no escape, and then when she finally did shoot one of them they rewinded it and just continued until they eventually decided to kill her. I don't know if it went over my head, but I felt there was no payoff and no real point.

And the biggest issue I had with the movie, was the pacing. It was sooooo slow, they really should of edited some of it out. I really didn't need to watch Naomi Watts stumble around for 10 minutes, or play with the cell phone. The only positive for me was the acting, which was good just not enough to keep me intrigued.

House of Pancakes
June 16th, 2008, 7:46 PM
If anyone is interested, at http://rainbowmoth.wordpress.com I have developed a website for my music and film reviews. I don't expect it to be that great, but it's something fun to do.

The only movie I have up there so far is Wild Strawberries.

Cactus Lem
June 17th, 2008, 5:50 PM
I went and saw Gone Baby Gone today. Dunno if I'm overrating it a little due to being so engrossed and wrapped up in the films twists by its conclusion, but what a film, easily my favourite film of 2007.

What I liked most about the film was how we are made to question morals, and really end up wondering what really is right and what the hell is wrong. The motivations where obviously very similar to Mystic River which was a film I enjoyed immensley, but I thought this was a little better, as I just didn't see some of the twists coming and was totally amazed and fooled by some of the revelations when discovered.

I also loved the local flavour that Affleck managed to give the picture, making Boston's districts seem like tight knit communities in which you can quite easily slip into bad or good.

Just an awesome film that I feel has gotten overlooked massivley. I'm kinda puzzled over the lack of Oscars it got nominated for. The fact that Juno was nominated over this for best film just seem's crazy.

Hulkamaniac
June 17th, 2008, 6:04 PM
Although I liked Juno, there was a real wealth of exceptional films this year. If there was a year for the Academy to avoid its quaint comedic token film nomination, this was it.

Ringo
June 17th, 2008, 6:05 PM
Have you seen No Country and TWBB yet, Mik?

Hulkamaniac
June 17th, 2008, 6:09 PM
I think that I'll watch No Country this weekend. There Will Be Blood isnt out yet.

Cactus Lem
June 17th, 2008, 6:11 PM
Have either of you guys seen Gone Baby Gone out of interest?

Hulkamaniac
June 17th, 2008, 6:15 PM
Not yet...Soon.

Ringo
June 17th, 2008, 6:17 PM
Have either of you guys seen Gone Baby Gone out of interest?

Nah, haven't yet, but I will do soon.

Cactus Lem
June 17th, 2008, 6:22 PM
Yeh do, I thought it was miles more enjoyable than No Country For Old Men. Not gonna say it's a better directed film or anything, because that would be discredting a hell of a lot of No Country's content, but Gone Baby Gone certainly provided more of what I look for and what I like out of film.

Also gotta say, I realised while watching the Gine Baby Gone that Ed Harris has gotta be one of my favourite actors. Never really thought about it before, but the guy is immense.

Ace Rockola
June 17th, 2008, 6:24 PM
I watched Funny Games the other night, and couldn't get into it.

I kept waiting for Naomi Watts to escape and go after those dicks and kill them but it didn't happen. It seemed like there was no escape, and then when she finally did shoot one of them they rewinded it and just continued until they eventually decided to kill her. I don't know if it went over my head, but I felt there was no payoff and no real point.

And the biggest issue I had with the movie, was the pacing. It was sooooo slow, they really should of edited some of it out. I really didn't need to watch Naomi Watts stumble around for 10 minutes, or play with the cell phone. The only positive for me was the acting, which was good just not enough to keep me intrigued.

Fuuny Games is so fucking out there I reccomend it just on the fact that it's never boring. The long drawn out shots of a house get to the point of being laughable. The bad guys are so fucking creepy they can't be real. And like you said, there is no pay off. They fuck with this family, kill them all, and move on. A real downer ending.

It's just a totally fucked up film, and even if you don't like it, you are at least paying attention.

Ringo
June 17th, 2008, 6:26 PM
Yeh do, I thought it was miles more enjoyable than No Country For Old Men. Not gonna say it's a better directed film or anything, because that would be discredting a hell of a lot of No Country's content, but Gone Baby Gone certainly provided more of what I look for and what I like out of film.

Also gotta say, I realised while watching the Gine Baby Gone that Ed Harris has gotta be one of my favourite actors. Never really thought about it before, but the guy is immense.

Well I certainly can't see myself liking it anywhere near as much as TWBB based on the trailers and who's involved etc., but I'll obviously give it a go.

Cactus Lem
June 17th, 2008, 6:28 PM
Well I certainly can't see myself liking it anywhere near as much as TWBB based on the trailers and who's involved etc., but I'll obviously give it a go.

I felt the same going in to be honest, and was shocked at just how much I liked it. Trailers are never a good indication for me to be honest.

Your love for TWBB is so strong though, that I can't see anything topping it for you to be honest.

Hulkamaniac
June 17th, 2008, 6:30 PM
I think that I may have a film marathon this weekend, trying to catch up on some of the stuff I've bought recently but havent had time to watch.

No Country For Old Men
Rescue Dawn
Zodiac
Into the Wild
Michael Clayton
Assassination of Jesse James

Those should keep me going for the weekend.

Ringo
June 17th, 2008, 6:30 PM
Aye, probably true since TWBB is top 5 of the Noughties for me.

Vice
June 17th, 2008, 6:34 PM
Also gotta say, I realised while watching the Gine Baby Gone that Ed Harris has gotta be one of my favourite actors. Never really thought about it before, but the guy is immense.


Definitely. I adore him. He just has a great aura to him and plays some fantastic characters.

I watched A History of Violence for the third time yesterday, and it rekindled my love for him.

Cactus Lem
June 17th, 2008, 6:37 PM
Definitely. I adore him. He just has a great aura to him and plays some fantastic characters.

I watched A History of Violence for the third time yesterday, and it rekindled my love for him.

Yeah gotta love him there, he's just so haunting and intimidating, really makes your spine chill. Got an evil smile there as well.

I also liked him a lot in Buffalo Soldiers, which I haven't seen in a while now, but remember being very underrated.

Ringo
June 17th, 2008, 6:37 PM
Rescue Dawn

Reckon I'll finally watch this on Thurs/Fri, since it's currently on SBO. Might give Into The Wild a watch as well if that's still available as well. Rescue hasn't received as much critical praise as I'd have expected/hoped when you consider the fact that it's FUCKIN HERZOG and BALE, but I'm sure it's still lovely.

I haven't seen Zodiac yet, but the other three are obviously super. There's something about Clayton which I can't quite put my finger on. It's pretty great.

I really liked Jesse James, which is unsurprising really because it's very Proposition-esque (well, apart from both having Cave soundtracks). Doesn't really match The Proposition for me though.

Morrison
June 17th, 2008, 7:03 PM
Reckon I'll finally watch this on Thurs/Fri, since it's currently on SBO. Might give Into The Wild a watch as well if that's still available as well. Rescue hasn't received as much critical praise as I'd have expected/hoped when you consider the fact that it's FUCKIN HERZOG and BALE, but I'm sure it's still lovely.

I haven't seen Zodiac yet, but the other three are obviously super. There's something about Clayton which I can't quite put my finger on. It's pretty great.

I really liked Jesse James, which is unsurprising really because it's very Proposition-esque (well, apart from both having Cave soundtracks). Doesn't really match The Proposition for me though.

I loved Rescue Dawn. I don't think it made my top 10 for last year, but I think that's simply because I forgot about it while compiling my list. That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement, but it is an excellent film. Bale's performance is definitely on par with what you'd expect out of him, Steve Zahn is pretty great in a serious role and Daniel Faraday is around. Didn't want it to end.

Greed
June 17th, 2008, 9:21 PM
Watching Hell's Kitchen since last week. All these bitchy wannabe chefs are pretty damn entertaining, and Gordon is amazingly brutal.
To top it off Christina is pretty hot.

Morrison
June 17th, 2008, 10:13 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Hell's Kitchen, simply because of the reality show aspect of it. But I love Gordon Ramsey to scary levels. Having been trained in the culinary arts, and having worked in a kitchen to some extent since I was 15, he just makes so much sense to me. He's a complete asshole, but with a wicked sense of humor, which are the type of people I've worked around for years and consider my closest friends. I'll watch Kitchen Nightmares anytime I see it on BBC America, even if I've seen that particular episode two times over.

Greed
June 17th, 2008, 10:17 PM
Indeed man. I just started to watch HK, even though it's been on quite a few years now. I discovered Ramsay's awesomeness through Kitchen Nightmares, and like it better. If I have time for tv, anything with the guy is better than the alternative programs.

Jimmy Zero
June 17th, 2008, 11:12 PM
I'm not a huge fan of Hell's Kitchen, simply because of the reality show aspect of it. But I love Gordon Ramsey to scary levels. Having been trained in the culinary arts, and having worked in a kitchen to some extent since I was 15, he just makes so much sense to me. He's a complete asshole, but with a wicked sense of humor, which are the type of people I've worked around for years and consider my closest friends. I'll watch Kitchen Nightmares anytime I see it on BBC America, even if I've seen that particular episode two times over.

Wow, that's pretty awesome. What kind of cooking style (I guess you would call it?) are you trained in?

I love all these food reality shows. Top Chef and Kitchen Nightmares are probably my favorites, since the original Iron Chef is no longer aired. The American Iron Chef is just ok. Top Chef really is fucking great. I love seeing those pompous faggot contestants get dressed down by world class chefs.

Kitchen Nightmares speaks for itself, really. Anyone who can't enjoy watching Gordon go nuclear on people who absolutely deserve it is probably a huge douche.

Morrison
June 17th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Wow, that's pretty awesome. What kind of cooking style (I guess you would call it?) are you trained in?

I love all these food reality shows. Top Chef and Kitchen Nightmares are probably my favorites, since the original Iron Chef is no longer aired. The American Iron Chef is just ok. Top Chef really is fucking great. I love seeing those pompous faggot contestants get dressed down by world class chefs.

Kitchen Nightmares speaks for itself, really. Anyone who can't enjoy watching Gordon go nuclear on people who absolutely deserve it is probably a huge douche.

Traditional French cooking. My culinary instructor was actually from Liverpool, and he was pretty cool too. He had the same biting wit and general douchey attitude towards idiocy that Gordon has, only because he was a teacher, he couldn't put it on display as often as a normal chef in a commercial kitchen would be able to. A lot of the kids in my class had no intentions of following through with being a cook/chef after graduating(it was a technical high school), so he tended to take a better focus with the people who did. So I'd constantly see him rolling his eyes behind a students back, and I'd get his real thoughts on the class and how it was going. Fun times.

The chef I was employed under was a CIA graduate that was dealt heavily in Italian cooking. I learned most of my skills, and developed my work ethic, on the job under him and my sous chef.

I dig the original Iron Chef, but these reality/game show cooking programs just don't do it for me. I guess having worked in a kitchen, the challenges/activities just seem really contrived to me.

Kitchen Nightmares is one of my favorite shows of all time. I love how foul Gordon can be, and he just doesn't give a shit. The Sandgate episode, where he's trying to teach the woman owner to be more forceful and stern with her employees, and sets up bottles with wooden spoons in them with the faces of her workers pasted on to them is one of my favorite moments. He tells her to be brutally honest and act as if it's the real person instead of just an exercise, and she goes totally soft and doesn't get confrontational at all. So he kinda blows up and shows her how she should be doing it by belting out an ass-chewing with an expletive or two to one of the bottles. Then they both sit there for a second or two, and he goes 'you don't have to use fucking, that's a chef thing.' I was like 'YUS!'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFrL5S421pw

That's the clip right there. The exercise begins at about 2:40.

VanillaJello
June 18th, 2008, 12:09 AM
Gone Baby Gone was by far my favorite movie of 2007. It blew me away with how good it turned out to be.

Speaking of Ed Harris..

Check out Cleaner.

It's Harris, Samuel L. Jackson and Eva Mendes.

It's a straight to DVD release, but it's not horrible.... and you could do much worse for a rental.

Jimmy Zero
June 18th, 2008, 12:42 AM
Wow, so you can say fuck and shit on British television? Awesome.

Morrison
June 18th, 2008, 12:55 AM
Wow, so you can say fuck and shit on British television? Awesome.

I know when I watched it on BBC America, 'fuck' was bleeped out. But they do get away with some other profanity it seems.

That clip I linked to has the Food Network logo in the bottom corner there. I've never seen Nightmares on the Food Network over here in the US, and even so, I'm fairly sure if it has, they'd bleep out the word too. Don't know why it's uncut in the clip, though I'm not complaining.

Vice
June 18th, 2008, 1:30 AM
The only words I've heard bleeped out on BBC are fuck and cunt, but everything else seems to be alright.

That said, I enjoy Kitchen Nightmares and Ramsey in general. Raging lunatic, but very entertaining.

Ringo
June 18th, 2008, 8:37 AM
You can get away with anything after 9pm. Tends to depend on the channel though, since Channels 4 and 5 are traditionally more "lenient".

Burv
June 18th, 2008, 9:25 AM
More leniant, meaning they do what they like. Channel 5 even showed what was basically porn (A Girls Guide to 21st Century Sex, albeit after 2300), even if they did mask it as 'educational'. Only problem with that was, out of eight episodes, only the first two were uncensored (meaning everything was seen), because people complained. It's strange then, that despite the series being repeated constantly, the first two episodes are still censorship free (and they may be the worst offenders anyway).

Oh, the other annoying thing, is that bloody doctor yapping half the time. It's really off-putting. Still, can't complain when it comes for free on terrestrial.

Ringo
June 18th, 2008, 9:44 AM
Well sure, but I was talking profanities. The likes of "fuck" and "cunt" are perfectly fine after 9pm.

Burv
June 18th, 2008, 10:15 AM
Yeah I know, but it made me think about that.

VanillaJello
June 18th, 2008, 11:02 AM
I know Comedy Central run unaltered movies late at night in their secret stash... full profanity and everything. Of course they take out the nudity... or at least blur it, but I'm positive they leave in all the curse words, no matter what is said.

Mills
June 18th, 2008, 1:26 PM
Yeah, watching South Park the movie late night is funny. Every word is heard plainly and clearly.

Edgeomatic
June 19th, 2008, 12:52 AM
Finally watched the Japanese flick Battle Royale... fucking incredible movie. I was just introduced to the awesomeness that is Japanese films. I thought the story was great, the acting was well done and a lot of the characters had good roles in the film. I am sure some people have seen it here. The main antagonist (the spikey haired dude) was bad-ass. The ending was good but fucked as hell.

RockOverBoston
June 19th, 2008, 1:05 AM
Wow, so you can say fuck and shit on British television? Awesome.

You can say shit on an increasingly large amount of American television now. Fuck is still pretty taboo, though.


I dig the original Iron Chef, but these reality/game show cooking programs just don't do it for me. I guess having worked in a kitchen, the challenges/activities just seem really contrived to me.

I'll watch "Top Chef" because it's on an awful lot, and they have an awful lot of guest panelists that'd impress you, but I'd actually like it quite a lot more if they'd go into any detail about the chef's techniques or throw a recipe out there every now and again -- these guys come up with some pretty incredible dishes, so taking a minute or two to walk us through it wouldn't hurt.

I miss cooking professionally sometimes, and I worked under some stereotypically characteristically dickheaded ECs, so I really don't know why. Food service gets a bum rap as a career choice - people on the outside don't seem to realize that every restaraunt doesn't run like what they've seen in "Waiting" - or even close to it, really.

Mills
June 19th, 2008, 2:58 AM
I work at Red Robin, and it's exactly like Waiting.

Morrison
June 19th, 2008, 3:22 AM
I work at Red Robin, and it's exactly like Waiting.

I was actually going to point that out. I spent three and a half years in a educational kitchen, and four years in a commercial kitchen at a local country club. Those two kitchens were nothing like Waiting, at least in behavior towards the work that needed to be done and the people that we cooked for. Most of the kitchen staff were pretty big degenerates, though. But I worked at a Red Robin for two months towards the ass end of last year, and it really felt like a scene out of Waiting. But ROB is almost definitely talking about fine-dining establishments, where the kitchen staff is far more proud of the product they send out. Fast food places like Red Robin and Ruby Tuesday are usually filled with younger staff, who have no intention of making a career out of working in a kitchen, so it's a bit more 'devil may care' in attitude.

Mills
June 19th, 2008, 3:24 AM
Exactly. Most of the cooks could care less about their job, they'd rather figure out how to bang the new server.

RockOverBoston
June 19th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Yeah, I'm by no means trying to imply that most of your casual dining chain restaraunts don't resemble "Waiting" - I'd have to think that the overwhelming majority of them do. I worked at a Ruby Tuesday during college (a Ruby Tuesday, it's worth noting, that my friend who took the job with me during college is still at and currently manages) and the experience, minus the blatant disregard for food quality, nearly mirrored that script (for some still inexplicable reason, most of the cooks took a pretty surprising amount of pride in their job). Otherwise, we partied pretty hard as a group, we were all pretty defensive about the group as a collective, and if the workplace is, in fact, a family, then we were a pretty incestual one with all of the workplace relationships that all of us who weren't in some way deformed were partaking in.

I had a pretty tit setup, too - I'd go in in the morning, do prep and cook lunch, take like a 3 hour break, then return and serve at night - guaranteed money for the cook shifts, which meant I actually got legitimate paychecks, plus guaranteed fat tips for the service shifts, which meant I always walked out with a good amount of cash in hand.

I actually miss that job sometimes. We had fun, and we made healthy amounts of fun money as far as the college student pay scale goes.

But yeah, what Morrison said - I was referring to fine dining establishments, where all involved parties, both FOH and BOH take an immense amount of pride in their jobs, and for good reason, as they're actually good jobs. If you're partying as a group, it had better not bleed into your work time, and if you're fucking a waitress, you're probably better off keeping that completely under wraps.

I steal cable
June 19th, 2008, 1:02 PM
Finally watched the Japanese flick Battle Royale... fucking incredible movie. I was just introduced to the awesomeness that is Japanese films. I thought the story was great, the acting was well done and a lot of the characters had good roles in the film. I am sure some people have seen it here. The main antagonist (the spikey haired dude) was bad-ass. The ending was good but fucked as hell.

For the love of god, please do NOT watch Battle Royale 2

Jimmy Zero
June 19th, 2008, 5:55 PM
Finally watched the Japanese flick Battle Royale... fucking incredible movie. I was just introduced to the awesomeness that is Japanese films. I thought the story was great, the acting was well done and a lot of the characters had good roles in the film. I am sure some people have seen it here. The main antagonist (the spikey haired dude) was bad-ass. The ending was good but fucked as hell.

I think I'm the only person ever that thought Battle Royale was fucking LAME. I'd been hearing about how great it was from people for years, but just never got around to watching.

A couple weeks ago I Netflixed it and I was thoroughly disappointed, which sucks because that type of movie is usually right up my alley. Oh well, at least you liked it.

House of Pancakes
June 19th, 2008, 7:17 PM
http://rainbowmoth.wordpress.com

I've just put up a lengthy review of Bergman's "Persona," for those interested.

Guy
June 20th, 2008, 10:58 AM
Just for the sake of interest and personal curiosity, I'm gonna out a link in here to a film I made in my second to last semester of University:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0JQXNpV_r0

Just curious as to what you all think, no masterpiece by any means. But it's something new for the thread. Also there's some other stuff on there you'll probably find through my profile (if you get at all interested), basically a few things that span from college and through universiy.

I expect a bit of flaming, but who wouldn't :)

Hulkamaniac
June 20th, 2008, 7:20 PM
I'm applying to do an MA in Film Studies so as to be able to college lecture, just got a letter through the post for one of them asking me to write a 1500 word analysis of a film that I've seen recently as part of the application process. Question is...which do I pick? At the moment I'm thinking between:

Atonement
The Prestige
Memento
Children of Men


What do you reckon?

So I got unconditional offers to all three places I applied to in the end. Now just need to pick which one has the better modules and decide which one to go for.

Alf
June 20th, 2008, 7:27 PM
Where did you apply to?

What did you write about in the end?

Hulkamaniac
June 20th, 2008, 7:29 PM
I applied to Sunderland, Northumbria and Newcastle. Gave them a ring to ask about the timing of the lessons and they said that they wrongly sent me out the letter to write the assignment and that they didnt actually need me to write it. Had it all planned like, but would've struggled to fit it into 10,000 let alone 1500, so I may end up doing it for my thesis.

Alf
June 20th, 2008, 7:34 PM
Write about Batman for your thesis...

Beer-Belly
June 20th, 2008, 8:11 PM
Christian Bale, soon to be seen as the caped crusader in The Dark Knight, is in talks about donning the jolly Lincoln Green outfit of Robin Hood, where he will be part of a menage a trois between Russell Crowe's Sheriff of Nottingham and Sienna Miller's Maid Marian.

Nothing is signed for Bale, but director Ridley Scott is exceedingly keen to cast him.

Costume fittings begin next week, so he'll be either in or out by then. Vanessa Redgrave and William Hurt are also in discussions about being in the film, which is called Nottingham.

Saoirse Ronan (who appeared with Vanessa in Joe Wright's award-winning film Atonement) will also be in the picture.

If all the casting comes off, it'll be a high-octane ensemble and Scott will be working with a big budget - good news for the British film industry.Bale as a villain is a thing of wonder. Although, Robin Hood as a bad guy seems blasphemous. At least it's something different. If this does happen I hope Bale gets to show off his charismatic side. He's balls deep in dour characters these days. A little bit of that Patrick Bateman looniness would be good for a change.

Hulkamaniac
June 21st, 2008, 9:31 AM
Fuck me would that be interesting for a number of reasons.

It sounds like an intriguing premise with a great director and a cracking cast. It'd be nice to see Bale and Crowe working together again as on 3:10 to Yuma both actors said that they got on well, but the press kept publishing arguments between them, which would be rubbished if Bale took this film. Moreso, it's somewhat of a reversal of roles with Crowe taking the more bland, more likeable character and Bale taking the more charismatic and more interesting bad guy character. Bale can absolutely knock this role out of the park too and casting him would make this film a very promising project. Add in the likes of Redgrave, Hurt and Ronan and you're actually looking at a film that could be an Oscar candidate and a strong one at that.

Bale has some rather fascinating projects in the mix at the moment. The Batman films, The Terminator films, Public Enemies with Johnny Depp and Michael Mann, and Killing Pablo with Javier Bardem.

KorruptJustice
June 21st, 2008, 2:16 PM
This is the first I've heard of this Robin Hood movie, but it sounds awesome. The Errol Flynn Robin Hood was one of my favorite movies when I was a kid, and I still enjoy it today. A take with Robin as the villain should be interesting, although I agree with Beer-Belly that it does seem almost blasphemous. Still, with Scott, Crowe, and Bale, it should turn out to be an excellent film.



To change the subject, is anyone on here a Sherlock Holmes fan? I ask because my grandfather gave me as a graduation present the complete series that were made by Granada from the mid 80's to mid 90's, with Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes. Before I had watched these (well, most of them. I'm on Disc 9 of the 12 disc set), the only Holmes I had seen on film were the Basil Rathbone ones, and the Brett series blows those movies away. I think the biggest difference is the fact that the show avoids turning Dr. Watson into the bumbling fool that Nigel Bruce played him as. I can understand why he was played that way, since it's easier to make Holmes appear as a mastermind if everyone around him is an idiot, but as the Granada series shows, you can show the amazing intelligence level of Holmes without making Watson a joke. Anyway, I was just curious if anyone else had ever watched these, and what their opinions on them were.

Guy
June 21st, 2008, 2:44 PM
Whilst on the subject of Bale, here's a description of the teaser for Terminator 4, posted at Aint it cool

It opens with footage of people out in every day life. Christian Bale voiceovers
something like:

"I always knew it would happen"...

Than a pause...

"They told me I could stop it."

The same people begin looking to the sky....

"That I could save us"¯.

Looks of horror come across their faces as he says,

"They were wrong"¯.

Music rises as we cut to black for a second. The Terminator theme starts, with the duh duh,
duh, duh, duh¯.

NEXT SUMMER appears on the screen...

We get a quick shot looking out over a sunny desert, and then a shot of Bale, in badass commando uniform
and very recognizably the same guy who plays Batman, being lowered into a huge bunker
of weapons.

THE FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE

rolls across, and we get mixed clips from inside one of the survivor bunkers as seen in Terminator 1 - but they look more concentration campish; very crowded, shots of Bale walking with a large crowd. And then the word...

BEGINS.

The music quickly rises as we get shot of a huge truck racing down a high way, a shot or two of a helicopter flying mixed with more close ups of the actors when Bale whispers, "They're coming"¯.

It all goes quiet.

Massive drums blare the beginning of the theme (again) but this time much louder, more pumped up, as we get a metallic silver T that morphs into a 4.

We then get the big money shot of the trailer. Its Bale on a motorcycle with some girl on the back.
They speed through a door of what looks like a warehouse toward us. As soon as they
pass the screen, a huge terminator on wheels, a lot like the one they battle in the
first one, smashes through the wall, chasing them. It looks awesome.

It then says:

Memorial Day 2009.

I was not a big fan of T3 aside from the ending, but this looks really good.

Hulkamaniac
June 21st, 2008, 2:59 PM
I read it earlier, when looking for the news about Bale as Robin Hood. Sounds actually rather good. Should get somewhat of a teaser before The Dark Knight, by the sounds of it.

Guy
June 21st, 2008, 5:28 PM
Is Christian Bale NOTTINGHAM'S Robin Hood?


Beaks here...

Though I am loath to believe a single word printed in the Daily Mail, I must admit that yesterday's gossip item about Christian Bale being "in talks" to play a bad-guy Robin Hood in Ridley Scott's revisionist NOTTINGHAM seemed fairly genuine. With Russell Crowe on board as the good-guy Sheriff, and Sienna Miller recently cast as Marian... why the hell not Bale?

While I can't provide any specifics, I can tell you this much: there is absolutely no truth to the Daily Mail's rumor. Christian Bale is not playing Robin Hood. As for who might be picking up where Errol Flynn, Sean Connery, Kevin Costner, Richard Gautier and a cartoon fox left off, I'm sure we'll know soon, 'cuz NOTTINGHAM is currently scheduled to begin shooting this August. I wonder what Paul Bettany's up to.

Bale's next movie is called THE DARK KNIGHT. I hear it's pretty damn good.

.

Hulkamaniac
June 21st, 2008, 6:13 PM
With all due respect to what Harry Knowles and his lot have managed to create from nothing at AICN, I still (very reasonably) never trust them whatsoever when it comes to Movie rumour.

Thirteen
June 21st, 2008, 7:01 PM
Just curious if anyone has watched the new NBC series, Fear Itself. Basically every week, it's a mini-horror movie. I've watched all three episodes so far, and have liked each of them.

Last week's episode, starring Eric Roberts, who I actually can't stand, was by far the best episode so far, and got a genuine jump out of me from one of the scenes.

Just curious if anyone else is watching this show?

KorruptJustice
June 21st, 2008, 11:22 PM
Just curious if anyone has watched the new NBC series, Fear Itself. Basically every week, it's a mini-horror movie. I've watched all three episodes so far, and have liked each of them.

Last week's episode, starring Eric Roberts, who I actually can't stand, was by far the best episode so far, and got a genuine jump out of me from one of the scenes.

Just curious if anyone else is watching this show?

I watched the first episode, and really didn't care for it at all. I thought the acting was poor, and the story just wasn't that interesting. However, I do like the concept, and I meant to watch it again, but I've been too busy to be able to do so. Hopefully next week I'll be able to catch another one.

Thirteen
June 21st, 2008, 11:42 PM
Yeah, the first episode was the weakest as far as story and acting so far.

Guy
June 22nd, 2008, 5:20 AM
With all due respect to what Harry Knowles and his lot have managed to create from nothing at AICN, I still (very reasonably) never trust them whatsoever when it comes to Movie rumour.


I dunno, I mean every website has it's reliable and un-reliable sources. But he seems very firm with;

"While I can't provide any specifics, I can tell you this much: there is absolutely no truth to the Daily Mail's rumor. Christian Bale is not playing Robin Hood."

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 5:51 AM
AICN ALWAYS try to make it look as though their sources are more reliable than others, without actually revealling them. Lets be honest, this has more chance than not of being correct (casting rumours more often than not are), so say it forcefully and if you're right people will remember that you were so certain. If Bale doesnt get the role, and neither does Bettany, people will forget that they said he would.

Jimmy Zero
June 22nd, 2008, 8:32 AM
Yeah, as cool of a little site as AICN is, their "rumor mill" is totally horrible. Very rarely do they ever break any actual legit rumors. They're usually REALLY late to the party when reporting on this type of stuff. The Talkbackers routinely rip the fuck out of them for that.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 12:32 PM
I just put up a review of Bergman's Persona on my site. I think it came out really well.

http://rainbowmoth.wordpress.com

Jimmy Zero
June 22nd, 2008, 12:36 PM
We've got it. You posted that at the top of the page.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 12:37 PM
Oh. Sorry, I've been kinda looking for feedback and posting it a bunch of places. I thought I posted about Wild Strawberries, but not Persona.

BUT THERE IT IS AGAIN

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 1:27 PM
I just put up a review of Bergman's Persona on my site. I think it came out really well.

http://rainbowmoth.wordpress.com

I must admit, seeing someone proclaim to love Bergman usually puts my 'film snob' alert onto my shit-talk radar.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 1:39 PM
I'm not sure I understand that sentence. Does that mean you do or don't like Bergman?

And I'm not a film snob, I just really like Bergman. Can't help what I like. It's not he's really obscure.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 1:46 PM
I like Bergman. I just find that people who go around saying "Oh, Bergman is my favourite director", is similar to people who go around saying "Oh, Dostoyevsky is my favourite author", which is often just to try and look smart to people who know no better, in spite of how well they themselves actually know the director/author and the subtelties of their work. With that said, Dostoyevsky is one of my favourite authors, so I should really have picked someone else.

People who want to look smart about film to look superior or impressive, or even just 'cultured' to someone else will generally say that their favourite directors are Bergman, Fellini or Kurorsawa. Very few people's favourite directors actually are.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 1:59 PM
Well, why are you worried about that? Trust me, I'm not trying to sound smart. I have seen four Bergman movies and all four of them are in my four favorites, period. While some people may try to look smart by liking Bergman and Kurosawa, you also know very well that there is reason those guys are picked. They ARE some of the best directors ever.

For sake of curiosity, who do you like?

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 2:09 PM
I'm not concerned. I never said that I doubted or didnt believe you, just that someone who says they like Bergman usually makes me feel dubious.

I like pretty much everyone. I wouldnt call any director my favourite if I'd only seen four of their films though (unless of course it was Terence Malick or Kubrick I guess).

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 2:12 PM
Well, I've only seen four, but plan on seeing a lot more very soon. And I don't think it's quantity that counts as much as quantity. I've only seen three Jodoroswky and all three have been amazing. And PTA only has five full-lengths out and I love them all.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 2:23 PM
Maybe you just go into watching a film determined to love something that'll make you feel smart.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 2:47 PM
Why are you attacking me?

Trust me, man, I've been disappointed in directors that would "make me look smart" before. I just can't understand the bullshit of everyone ragging on me in here. Did you read my review at all? Can you take my word that I ACTUALLY LIKE Persona a lot?

Art, creation, and expression are the most important things in life to me. I'm not faking my way through it.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 2:51 PM
I'll give you two examples, just for you:

Sword of Doom. Recently watched it, hearing about how awesome it was. I thought it was pretty generic and cheesy, and although parts of it were good and Toshiro Mifune is amazing, I really didn't like it the way I hoped I would.

Also recently, I watched two thirds of Nashville. PTA, my favorite director, is Altman's fanboy and cites him as his biggest influence. After reading about Nashville is this three-hour ensemble improvised acting piece, I couldn't wait to see it. I still need to see the ending, but the first two-thirds are basically a long country music video. I understand the skill in the directing and the innovation of the ensemble piece, but not a whole lot has happened with the characters yet and there's a country song every five minutes. I hope the ending is better.

VanillaJello
June 22nd, 2008, 3:04 PM
Anyone seen Chaos Theory with Ryan Reynolds, Stuart Townsend and Emily Mortimer?

I picked it up at the store last night as I'm a big fan of Reynolds and I was surprised at how good it turned out to be.

Good story and the cast really played their roles well.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 5:55 PM
Why are you attacking me?


I'm just ragging on you because you've been coming across as a bit of a pretentious prick on here recently and as such needed knocking down a peg or two. Accomplished, you are now free to go back on with your business.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 6:13 PM
Have had to somewhat compromise the integrity of my collection today to get the DVDs I need for teaching. Also, I had to buy again some of the fuckers that I've loaned out never to get back (including one bitch ex-girlfriend who took 8 of the bastards and never had the good manners to return them...over a yeear ago).

Anyway, got:

La Vie en Rose
The Breakfast Club
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Walk the Line

Cactus Lem
June 22nd, 2008, 7:07 PM
Maybe you just go into watching a film determined to love something that'll make you feel smart.

That's what I was basically trying to say with Lynch in the I Don't Get It thread. I've come across quite a few people, and hard about others who act exactly the same about Lynch's work, when I'm not entirley sure they 'get it' either, but just feel that they have to try and kep up some sort of smart appearance by at least claiming to enjoy him by throwing your typical buzz terms about.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 7:12 PM
I'm just ragging on you because you've been coming across as a bit of a pretentious prick on here recently and as such needed knocking down a peg or two. Accomplished, you are now free to go back on with your business.

What are you talking about? It was totally unmerited and I haven't been being a dick. You had no reason to insult me.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 7:24 PM
Others would disagree and I never insulted you.

Vice
June 22nd, 2008, 7:35 PM
Personally I'd say that Brent (mind if I call you that, Pancakes?) has been rather tame as of late, at least from what I've seen. He'll forever have his signature aura because he wouldn't be Brent without that, but he's been a lot less aggressive and in peoples' faces, generally sticking to defense. Something I'm very appreciative of.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 7:38 PM
'This woman-beater has been great lately...he's normally a rapist too'.

Jimmy Zero
June 22nd, 2008, 7:43 PM
LOL, I like the mise-en-scene of that post.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 7:43 PM
You didn't insult me?


Maybe you just go into watching a film determined to love something that'll make you feel smart.

It was uncalled for and had no business being said. Then, you just as recently as two hours ago called me a pretentious prick, when you're the one being belligerent.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 7:44 PM
LOL, I like the mise-en-scene of that post.

Stop using terminology like "post." We all know it's a post just by looking at it. There is no need to say "post" and then explain something about it. That's usually a sign of someone trying to sound smart.

You idiot, words were invented so that we can't use them.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 7:46 PM
You didn't insult me?



It was uncalled for and had no business being said. Then, you just as recently as two hours ago called me a pretentious prick, when you're the one being belligerent.

I said 'maybe'.


Stop using terminology like "post." We all know it's a post just by looking at it. There is no need to say "post" and then explain something about it. That's usually a sign of someone trying to sound smart.

You idiot, words were invented so that we can't use them.

You embarrassed yourself trying to crowbar that situation in there.

House of Pancakes
June 22nd, 2008, 7:48 PM
You said "maybe" but you wouldn't have brought it up if you didn't think so. It's an insulting thing to bring into a conversation that consisted of me really liking Ingmar Bergman movies, which is really not an unreasonable thing.

And you're the one who embarrassed yourself.

Hulkamaniac
June 22nd, 2008, 7:52 PM
Is there an echo in here?

Jimmy Zero
June 22nd, 2008, 9:07 PM
Alright, moving on...

EW, which is one of the better entertainment magazines out there, if you ask me, has compiled it's list of the 100 best movies of the last 25 years. Top ten:

1. Pulp Fiction (1994)
2. The Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001-03)
3. Titanic (1997)
4. Blue Velvet (1986)
5. Toy Story (1995)
6. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
7. Hannah and Her Sisters (1986)
8. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
9. Die Hard (1988)
10. Moulin Rouge (2001)

the rest (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20207076_20207387_20207063,00.html)

Thoughts? I think it's fairly ridiculous that anyone with a functioning brain would rate Titanic or The Matrix above pretty much everything from 15-35. Also, Lost in Translation? Really?

Morrison
June 22nd, 2008, 9:15 PM
And I get that it's all one big story broken into a trilogy, but combining all three of the LOTR films together to get it higher results is kinda douchey.

Adamy
June 22nd, 2008, 9:19 PM
I like Bergman. I just find that people who go around saying "Oh, Bergman is my favourite director", is similar to people who go around saying "Oh, Dostoyevsky is my favourite author", which is often just to try and look smart to people who know no better, in spite of how well they themselves actually know the director/author and the subtelties of their work. With that said, Dostoyevsky is one of my favourite authors, so I should really have picked someone else.

For the sake of comparison, I've read exactly four Dostoevsky novels (The Double, Crime and Punishment, Notes From Underground, and The Idiot). Still, I feel pretty comfortable calling him one of my favorite authors as well.

Just to further the comparison, I would be curious to know which Dostoevsky novels you've read.

Adamy
June 22nd, 2008, 9:20 PM
Alright, moving on...

EW, which is one of the better entertainment magazines out there, if you ask me, has compiled it's list of the 100 best movies of the last 25 years. Top ten:

1. Pulp Fiction (1994)
2. The Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001-03)
3. Titanic (1997)
4. Blue Velvet (1986)
5. Toy Story (1995)
6. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
7. Hannah and Her Sisters (1986)
8. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
9. Die Hard (1988)
10. Moulin Rouge (2001)

the rest (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20207076_20207387_20207063,00.html)

Thoughts? I think it's fairly ridiculous that anyone with a functioning brain would rate Titanic or The Matrix above pretty much everything from 15-35. Also, Lost in Translation? Really?

I enjoyed Lost In Translation, but more as a comedy than as a cinematic achievement. I think that whenever you make a list like this in a publication like Entertainment Weekly, 'mainstream acceptance' is figured in perhaps more prominently than it should be.

Jimmy Zero
June 22nd, 2008, 9:38 PM
I like Lost in Translation well enough. It's a nice little movie, but I don't know about being worthy of being on a list like this. Then again, Clueless and Austin Powers 1 is on there too.

Pete Cash
June 22nd, 2008, 9:51 PM
For the sake of comparison, I've read exactly four Dostoevsky novels (The Double, Crime and Punishment, Notes From Underground, and The Idiot). Still, I feel pretty comfortable calling him one of my favorite authors as well.

Just to further the comparison, I would be curious to know which Dostoevsky novels you've read.

Why not The Brothers Karamazov.

Anyway, without going to wiki Dostoevsky wrote 14 or so novels that have been translated into English and another say 15 short stories. That is thirty works. How can you say that he is your favourite author if you haven't even read arguably his best and like less than a quarter of his work. I've read more Dostoevsky than you but I still wouldn't say that he was my favourite author because I simply haven't read enough of his work to make that judgement.

He is an obviously talented author though.

Adamy
June 22nd, 2008, 10:31 PM
I wouldn't call him my favorite author ever, but I'd say he's among my favorites. What I've taken away from those novels is that he deals with outsiders and the disenfranchised as well as Celine or Bukowski, but his writing has a certain elegance and grace that those two do not possess. That makes me like him a great deal, and enough so that I feel comfortable putting him among my favorites. Of course, I have probably a dozen "favorite" authors, so take that for what it's worth.

I have actually read a handful of his short stories (White Nights, Dream of a Ridiculous Man, and The Meek One are all memorable selections from the anthology I have on the shelf near me, for instance), but I was simplifying things for the sake of comparison.

Hulkamaniac
June 23rd, 2008, 6:22 AM
Alright, moving on...

EW, which is one of the better entertainment magazines out there, if you ask me, has compiled it's list of the 100 best movies of the last 25 years. Top ten:

1. Pulp Fiction (1994)
2. The Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001-03)
3. Titanic (1997)
4. Blue Velvet (1986)
5. Toy Story (1995)
6. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
7. Hannah and Her Sisters (1986)
8. The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
9. Die Hard (1988)
10. Moulin Rouge (2001)

the rest (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20207076_20207387_20207063,00.html)

Thoughts? I think it's fairly ridiculous that anyone with a functioning brain would rate Titanic or The Matrix above pretty much everything from 15-35. Also, Lost in Translation? Really?

I think that is a dreadful list.


For the sake of comparison, I've read exactly four Dostoevsky novels (The Double, Crime and Punishment, Notes From Underground, and The Idiot). Still, I feel pretty comfortable calling him one of my favorite authors as well.

Just to further the comparison, I would be curious to know which Dostoevsky novels you've read.

I already posted about this in the other thread, but will cut and paste it here anyway:




You dont HAVE to had read/seen everything that a person has done to know that he's your favourite. However, when you repeatedly rabble on about how a particular author/director is your favourite, despite not seeing/reading all that much of his work, when that author/director is renowned for being one that 'elitist' people use to make themselves look more impressive then you should go wild when someone makes a suggestion (not even an implication) over whether your intentions are pure. I never initially said that HoP didnt consider that director his genuine favourite, I merely posed a couple of queries and when I saw how badly he reacted to that, I decided to have a bit of fun.

Also, its worth pointing out that this formula doesnt particularly hold true if you havent seen/read much of the directors/authors work and they havent produced much work. I do like Dostoyevsky (he has one of my favourite writing styles and I find the subject of his work to be fascinating) and I have only read 5 of his novels (Crime and Punishment, The Idiot, House of the Dead, The Brothers Karamazov and The Gambler, while I have a couple more in my collection to read), but then Dostoyevsky only produced about a dozen major pieces of work. Ingmar Bergman on the other hand was fairly prolific, directing over 60 films, many of which are readily available. If he is indeed your 'favourite' director, there is no real excuse for only having seen 4 of his films.

Cactus Lem
June 23rd, 2008, 7:50 AM
I watched Death Proof the other night and thought it was awful. One of the most mundane, boring and nothing films I've watched in a long time.

I totally got what Tarintino was trying to do in regard to style and content, and I initially enjoyed the p[layfullness of the film, but then it occured to me that this film was basically going nowhere. I've seen people claim this was done with intent since the films Tarintino was paying homage to pan out in a similar manner, but to say that he attempted to make a dull film is insane. The second half of the film with Rosario Dawson's group of girls was totally un-inspiring and basically wnt nowhre. The Kurt Russel character was poorly carved and we never really understood or got his true motivations for what he was doing to these females.

Yeah I know Tarintino was paying homage to the Feminist films of the 70's, and wanted to show us both weak and strong females, but it wasn't exactly entertaining, and we had zero reason to indulge or enjoy the characters, with dull conversation acting as the main hooks. Poor job overall I say.

I also didn't like the fact that he almost parodies his own films at times. He goes way over the top with his signature dialog scenes, and thw fact that he himself refferences the "Tasty Beverage" line from Pulp Fiction was kinda funny, but at the same time seemed egotistical.

Guy
June 23rd, 2008, 7:58 AM
I watched Death Proof the other night and thought it was awful. One of the most mundane, boring and nothing films I've watched in a long time.

I totally got what Tarintino was trying to do in regard to style and content, and I initially enjoyed the p[layfullness of the film, but then it occured to me that this film was basically going nowhere. I've seen people claim this was done with intent since the films Tarintino was paying homage to pan out in a similar manner, but to say that he attempted to make a dull film is insane. The second half of the film with Rosario Dawson's group of girls was totally un-inspiring and basically wnt nowhre. The Kurt Russel character was poorly carved and we never really understood or got his true motivations for what he was doing to these females.

Yeah I know Tarintino was paying homage to the Feminist films of the 70's, and wanted to show us both weak and strong females, but it wasn't exactly entertaining, and we had zero reason to indulge or enjoy the characters, with dull conversation acting as the main hooks. Poor job overall I say.

I also didn't like the fact that he almost parodies his own films at times. He goes way over the top with his signature dialog scenes, and thw fact that he himself refferences the "Tasty Beverage" line from Pulp Fiction was kinda funny, but at the same time seemed egotistical.

I felt a bit disapointed when I saw it to, but them you have to remember it was intentionally made to be part of Grindhouse, and therefore almost half an hour shorter.

I'd like to see the original package before making up my mind completely

Morrison
June 23rd, 2008, 8:08 AM
How can you say that he is your favourite author if you haven't even read arguably his best and like less than a quarter of his work.

Because based on everything you've read, you've liked him the most.

How is it that hard of a concept to wrap your head around?

Guy
June 23rd, 2008, 9:36 AM
I posted this shamless plug into The Asylum to try and grab myself a few more decent votes in order to win this competition and make a cool feature film with the winnings. Well it seems that in doing so, the film is now number 8, out of god knows how many, that's pretty damn good. So sorry if it annoys anyone (shit like this annoys me at times, but you know, £30000 is £30000)


For anyone who hasn't heard, Virgin Media has been running a short film competition for a while. The winner of which gets £30,000 to put towards making a full length feature.

Now myself and a friend of mine, had a film we'd whipped up in a matter of hours and he decided to submit it. The film was doing relatively well for a while but seems to have disapeared off the charts for a bit.

http://www.virginmediashorts.com/film/1568146047

If you guys help me out and vote for it I could very well find myself within the top whatever it is I need to be in to move onto the next part.

I'm not even going to pretend the film's any good, it's about 2 and a half minutes of something we made whilst we had spare equipment lying around, but I do have a pretty decent treatment for a fim that I'd love to pitch. One on wrestling funnily enough.

Anywho, thanks for at least reading all that.

and apparently Kevin Spacey is going to be one of the judges now!?

Guy
June 23rd, 2008, 9:46 AM
More Robin Hood casting rumours


Exclusive: Nottingham's Robin Hood May Have Control!
By El Mayimbe on June 22, 2008

El Mayimbe here on the first weekend of summer!

So the Daily Mail was going around saying that Christian Bale was going to play Robin Hood in the upcoming NOTTINGHAM, which is directed by Ridley Scott. Well, not quite.

Mr. Beaks debunked that story earlier today on Ain't-It-Cool-News.

Guess what?

I know who Russell Crowe wants for the role of Robin Hood.

According to my very trusted source, whom has given us the Star Trek teaser trailer news, Jake Gyllenhaal playing Dastan in Prince of Persia and of course the Jason Reitman story on what he is adapting next tells me the following…

“…Russell Crowe wants Sam Riley who played Joy Division lead singer Ian Curtis in Control to play opposite him as Robin Hood. It's not official yet but they will most likely get Sam Riley for the role because Crowe loved his performance in Control. “

Personally, I never saw the film 'Control' nor ever heard of Sam Riley. I’m merely the messenger here. I don’t know how far this has gotten, if the kid auditioned or if he there was even an offer made. Won’t be able to find out till Monday, but I do know if Russell wants this guy, he will most likely get him.

House of Pancakes
June 23rd, 2008, 11:10 AM
Why not The Brothers Karamazov.

Anyway, without going to wiki Dostoevsky wrote 14 or so novels that have been translated into English and another say 15 short stories. That is thirty works. How can you say that he is your favourite author if you haven't even read arguably his best and like less than a quarter of his work. I've read more Dostoevsky than you but I still wouldn't say that he was my favourite author because I simply haven't read enough of his work to make that judgement.

He is an obviously talented author though.

I get what you're saying, that you can't pass judgment on someone for having not seen much of the entire work output. But I'm saying that, as long as it is recognized that all of the books have not been read and that he's simply one of your favorites THUS FAR, I don't see the big deal. Why do petty semantics have to go into it?

If you love a couple of books by the same guy, why can't you love the author accordingly?

N.E.R.F.
June 23rd, 2008, 11:12 AM
I saw a trailer for Control. It looked alright, the guy in it could work as Robin Hood. I read a few good things about his performance anyway.

House of Pancakes
June 23rd, 2008, 11:43 AM
I think that is a dreadful list.



I agree.

RockOverBoston
June 23rd, 2008, 11:46 AM
I think that is a dreadful list.

Seconded -- and their choices of "The Simpsons" as Best TV Show and "Purple Rain" as the Best Album of the same timeframe lead off some equally bad other lists in the same issue.

I love "Pulp Fiction" and all, but it's certainly not my #1, it might make my top 10, and it might be the only movie on that list which would.

Cactus Lem
June 23rd, 2008, 1:34 PM
HMV has an awesome sale on at the moment. Today for £3 a piece I picked up

The Royal Tenenbaums
In America
American Graffiti
Boogie Nights

If I didn't need money for my holiday in a couple of weeks I'd have gone on a huge spree, as there was a good load of other stuff I've been intending on buying in the same sale.

Jimmy Zero
June 23rd, 2008, 5:17 PM
Seconded -- and their choices of "The Simpsons" as Best TV Show and "Purple Rain" as the Best Album of the same timeframe lead off some equally bad other lists in the same issue.

I love "Pulp Fiction" and all, but it's certainly not my #1, it might make my top 10, and it might be the only movie on that list which would.

You'd probably put Fever Pitch as number 1, you big Boston gay!!!

Seriously, though, I'm curious as to what you'd put as #1. For me, it's Pulp Fiction, or T2 for sentimental reasons.

Adamy
June 24th, 2008, 1:37 AM
You'd probably put Fever Pitch as number 1, you big Boston gay!!!

Seriously, though, I'm curious as to what you'd put as #1. For me, it's Pulp Fiction, or T2 for sentimental reasons.

I love Rushmore more than anything, but even I have to concede that it's probably ranked about where it should be. Pulp Fiction was pretty amazing.

I find it unbelievable that The Big Lebowski did not make this list.

Jimmy Zero
June 24th, 2008, 9:41 AM
I find it unbelievable that The Big Lebowski did not make this list.

Wow, I didn't even notice it wasn't on there.

Hulkamaniac
June 24th, 2008, 9:42 AM
I wouldnt have it on the top 10 films of the past 25 years, not even close. Remember, includes films all the way from 1983 to the present date.

Jimmy Zero
June 24th, 2008, 9:49 AM
Yeah, but top 100? I would. If crap like Austin Powers makes the list, certainly Big Lebowski should be on there.

I steal cable
June 24th, 2008, 1:28 PM
Austin Powers wasn't crap. Unfortunately most people tend to think of the overused catchphrases and shite sequels when talking about the first film.

That being said, I'm sure they have a very justifiable reason for putting it 6 places above Full Metal Jacket....

Hulkamaniac
June 24th, 2008, 2:08 PM
Yeah, but top 100? I would. If crap like Austin Powers makes the list, certainly Big Lebowski should be on there.

Top 100? Yeah. Top 50? Maybe, maybe not.

Zen
June 24th, 2008, 2:23 PM
I despise John Travolta. He's overrated garbage. Plus he thinks he can seriously dance.

Thus, any film he participates in, I automatically lose some interest in. Pulp Fiction? meh.

I really enjoyed Carlito's Way.

Bad Obsession
June 24th, 2008, 2:29 PM
I like John Travolta but he needs to really pick what films he does more carefully. He seems to be in films that are either really good or utter trash. If he hadn't made so many bad choices in the past in terms of what roles he's played he'd be much more respected as an actor, I think.

Not saying he's the greatest actor in the world or anything, though.

Adamy
June 24th, 2008, 8:14 PM
I wouldnt have it on the top 10 films of the past 25 years, not even close. Remember, includes films all the way from 1983 to the present date.

I just meant the Top 100 part, but it's definitely my favorite comedy of my lifetime.

I mean, I love like, Dumb and Dumber, or Wayne's World, but I also understand there isn't a whole lot to appreciate about either of those movies. They're just really funny.

House of Pancakes
June 24th, 2008, 10:00 PM
I despise John Travolta. He's overrated garbage. Plus he thinks he can seriously dance.

Thus, any film he participates in, I automatically lose some interest in. Pulp Fiction? meh.

I really enjoyed Carlito's Way.

Carlito's Way is terrible.

Morrison
June 25th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Taken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwGK_VVS3I)

That's the trailer for Taken, starring Liam Neeson being a complete badass, Famke Janssen looking perpetually worried, and Shannon Rutherford getting kidnapped in Paris.

It's a French film that opened over there in February, and is finally being released in America in September. I love Liam Neeson, so it looks like it'll be a great watch.

RockOverBoston
June 25th, 2008, 12:10 AM
You'd probably put Fever Pitch as number 1, you big Boston gay!!!

"Fever Pitch" wouldn't be on my list of Top 100 Movies Of This Millenium That Were Filmed In, Take Place In, Or So Much As Mention The City Of Boston By Name.


Seriously, though, I'm curious as to what you'd put as #1. For me, it's Pulp Fiction, or T2 for sentimental reasons.

I mean, "Pulp Fiction" is definitly up there, I just know that the fact that EW ranked it #1 pissed me off because it was such a safe choice (as were "The Simpsons" and "Purple Rain")

Right here is where I'll edit in movies I'd have ranked higher than "Pulp Fiction" as they come to me. Thinking about it isn't helping me come up with any sort of answer right now.

Hulkamaniac
June 25th, 2008, 3:32 AM
Taken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwGK_VVS3I)

That's the trailer for Taken, starring Liam Neeson being a complete badass, Famke Janssen looking perpetually worried, and Shannon Rutherford getting kidnapped in Paris.

It's a French film that opened over there in February, and is finally being released in America in September. I love Liam Neeson, so it looks like it'll be a great watch.

We have a trailer thread for trailers. Lets not just make this the 'catch all for everything' thread, otherwise we might as well just scrap the rest of the forum.

Cactus Lem
June 25th, 2008, 4:52 AM
Carlito's Way is terrible.

It really isn't.

Care to explain what made you come to such a poor conclusion?

Guy
June 25th, 2008, 6:14 AM
Taken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwGK_VVS3I)

That's the trailer for Taken, starring Liam Neeson being a complete badass, Famke Janssen looking perpetually worried, and Shannon Rutherford getting kidnapped in Paris.

It's a French film that opened over there in February, and is finally being released in America in September. I love Liam Neeson, so it looks like it'll be a great watch.

I'm mainly looking forward to seeing Neeson back in "Batshit Crazy Darkman" mode

Simon
June 25th, 2008, 6:19 AM
A few comments from films I did see over the last few days:

-Candyman is shit.
-The Machinist is pretty crap.
-Memento is perhaps the most overrated film ever.
-Inside Man is still brilliant.

Cactus Lem
June 25th, 2008, 6:24 AM
-The Machinist is pretty crap.
-Memento is perhaps the most overrated film ever.


Wow.

Murphy
June 25th, 2008, 7:06 AM
Carlito's Way is terrible.

:eek:

I love that film.

SheltonLondon
June 25th, 2008, 7:57 AM
Machinist is great, I loves it, moreso than Memento come to think of it.

Ringo
June 25th, 2008, 9:02 AM
-The Machinist is pretty crap.

This really couldn't be any further from the truth.

Hulkamaniac
June 25th, 2008, 9:23 AM
-The Machinist is pretty crap.
-Memento is perhaps the most overrated film ever.


Would you mind elaborating on those horrendously shit opinions?

KorruptJustice
June 25th, 2008, 9:37 AM
-Memento is perhaps the most overrated film ever.

:wtf: Wow.


-Inside Man is still brilliant.

Inside Man can't still be brilliant, as that would imply that it was brilliant in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed watching Inside Man, but to me the only thing close to brilliant in that movie was the acting of Owen, and I don't even think he did well enough to be called brilliant. Inside Man is an above average bank robbery film, and to call it brilliant is overrating way more than Memento has ever been overrated.

Morrison
June 25th, 2008, 10:00 AM
We have a trailer thread for trailers. Lets not just make this the 'catch all for everything' thread, otherwise we might as well just scrap the rest of the forum.

I was kind of hoping for talks of anticipation for the film, not just posting a trailer for the sake of it. Had I not linked to the trailer, my post would have been fine otherwise?

Pete Cash
June 25th, 2008, 10:27 AM
We have a trailer thread for trailers. Lets not just make this the 'catch all for everything' thread, otherwise we might as well just scrap the rest of the forum.

backseat modding :rolleyes:

Jimmy Zero
June 25th, 2008, 10:37 AM
It really isn't.

Care to explain what made you come to such a poor conclusion?

It wasn't directed by Bergman and doesn't feature a guy pontificating for 2 and a half hours over the most mundane bullshit possible.

You know what was way cooler than that medieval Swede playing chess with Death? Bill and Ted playing Battleship and Twister with Death.

Simon
June 25th, 2008, 1:26 PM
Would you mind elaborating on those horrendously shit opinions?

I think maybe I jumped the gun on The Machinist having just seen it, I had just finished watching Candyman which was absolutely terrible and so was a bit angry at all the films I've seen recently that have disappointed me. It was alright, but not as good as I was expecting. I felt the story was a little bit all over the place and found Ivan so intensely irritating that it affected every scene he was in. I liked the sparsity of colour though, at first it annoyed me but it fitted the film well, and the ending was good.

I stand by what I said about Memento though, don't understand the hype with that film at all. It wasn't terrible or anything, I just found it utterly forgettable - to the extent that I can't really point out anything I particularly dislike about it now. Which sounds like a bit of a cop out I know.

I'm not much of a film fan and have quite simple tastes so maybe these sort of films just aren't my sort of thing. I've been watching more and better films recently so maybe in the future I'll rewatch them and enjoy them far more. That was certainly the case with The Green Mile, which I disliked on first viewing but enjoyed greatly on second viewing.

Hulkamaniac
June 25th, 2008, 2:06 PM
I was kind of hoping for talks of anticipation for the film, not just posting a trailer for the sake of it. Had I not linked to the trailer, my post would have been fine otherwise?

The trailer thread is for posting and discussion of all new trailers. You dont HAVE to use it, but like I said, if we're going to use this thread for something that we already have a dedicated thread to, we might as well stop posting new topics, or stop posting in every thread other than this one. I saw this as a danger when this thread was first created and I think that I voiced my concern then, so I'm trying to avoid seeing it happen.


backseat modding :rolleyes:

Would be front-seat moderating if they gave me the job. Someone needs to do it.


I think maybe I jumped the gun on The Machinist having just seen it, I had just finished watching Candyman which was absolutely terrible and so was a bit angry at all the films I've seen recently that have disappointed me. It was alright, but not as good as I was expecting. I felt the story was a little bit all over the place and found Ivan so intensely irritating that it affected every scene he was in. I liked the sparsity of colour though, at first it annoyed me but it fitted the film well, and the ending was good.

I stand by what I said about Memento though, don't understand the hype with that film at all. It wasn't terrible or anything, I just found it utterly forgettable - to the extent that I can't really point out anything I particularly dislike about it now. Which sounds like a bit of a cop out I know.

I'm not much of a film fan and have quite simple tastes so maybe these sort of films just aren't my sort of thing. I've been watching more and better films recently so maybe in the future I'll rewatch them and enjoy them far more. That was certainly the case with The Green Mile, which I disliked on first viewing but enjoyed greatly on second viewing.

Memento - I find it utterly forgettable. Ho ho.

I'm going to hope that its the case that you need repeat viewings of them (you definitely do with Memento and The Machinist), they are quite subtle and clever and you cant fully appreciate the small details that give the film depth from one showing. The fact that you disliked them from one showing is a little concerning though. Cos really they should intrigue you and make you curious about seeing them again from the perspective of someone who is in on the act now. Its possible that they just are not 'your type' of films, as you said, but I hope not. I wouldnt like to think of you, or anyone, as the type of guy who only really likes moronic cliche films about English gangsters and hooliganism when there is so much more to appreciate from cinema than that.

Simon
June 25th, 2008, 2:09 PM
I didn't realise the pun there :ashamed:

I didn't 'dislike' either of them, I just didn't think either of them were particularly good and so was massively disappointed as I was expecting great things from them. Perhaps my approach is to blame - I've never really been into films and so recently have actively tried to start watching highly-rated films, maybe in that respect I'm expecting too much because I'm expecting them to be the best films ever.

El Capitano Gatisto
June 25th, 2008, 2:15 PM
The Machinist is a difficult and unsettling rather than an enjoyable watch. I can see why someone wouldn't really enjoy it. It's worth seeing once but I wasn't particularly impressed by the ending.

However I can't see how you could fault Memento. It's an excellent film, brilliantly constructed particularly in light of the novel way the story is told. Guy Pearce is fantastic in it.

Hulkamaniac
June 25th, 2008, 2:17 PM
Have you seen The Machinist twice? It has one of the best replay values of all the films I've seen. So many little clues and hints and echoes and suchlike are put in, which make the ending a real payoff and something that you really should've figured out by the end. It should be the sweet relief of putting the last part of the jigsaw in rather than a lovely surprising twist.

El Capitano Gatisto
June 25th, 2008, 2:21 PM
I sort of had figured it out the first time round, i.e. the guy was a manifestation of some sort of tremendous guilt. I don't really want to see it again MIk and you can't make me. I did recommend it to other people but I can't be arsed sitting through it again.

Hulkamaniac
June 25th, 2008, 2:27 PM
Thats not really figuring anything out mate, that is pretty obvious. Watch it again Cappy. You'll appreciate it (although its probably been too long since the first time you watched it to remember the details to look out for). Better yet...read up on it instead, then watch it.

PurePlayer
June 25th, 2008, 2:59 PM
Just saw A Clockwork Orange for the first time last night. I don't really have time to give an in depth review. All I can say for now is that it was a fantastic film. I don't know what the hell took me so long to watch it.

Ace Rockola
June 25th, 2008, 5:01 PM
From the set of Transformers 2,

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2008/baybeetsmall.jpg

With Beetlejuice on board, this movie is gonna be bad as can.

Jimmy Zero
June 25th, 2008, 8:50 PM
Watched Lars and the Real Girl last night. Stars Ryan Gosling as a mope who falls in love with a sex doll. I honestly can't say whether I liked it or not. It's fucking BIZARRE. The idea behind the movie is to see what might happen if mental illness were embraced rather than shunned and "cured".

It's not a bad movie, at all. Gosling and the guy that play his brother are really really good. In fact, there really wasn't a bad performance in the whole movie. All the actors did a great job of making you forget that they are all, in fact, treating a sex doll as if she were an actual woman.

I went in to it with the mindset that I was going to be watching a quirky drama, which didn't work. For me, it just made the movie painfully awkward and utterly depressing. About half way through, I switched gears and thought of it as more of a comedy and ended up really enjoying the second half. I might wait a few weeks and watch it again to see what I think.

It's definitely worth watching at least once, though. Anyone else seen this?

House of Pancakes
June 25th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Sorry for the late response, but I thought Carlito's Way was incredibly generic. If it weren't Al Pacino in the lead role it would be another wanna-be street redemption story. I predicted every single story arc when I first saw it.

Cactus Lem
June 26th, 2008, 5:05 AM
Sorry for the late response, but I thought Carlito's Way was incredibly generic. If it weren't Al Pacino in the lead role it would be another wanna-be street redemption story. I predicted every single story arc when I first saw it.

How is it generic? It re-invents the gangster to a certain extent, and bascially shows that how much you want to escape such a lifestyle, it can almost prove impossible at times.

It doesn't take a simple rise and fall focus point that so many other gangsters do, it takes a re-entry into society and what is basically a fall, which is more or less out of the gangsters hands this time around, which is quite different to the norm.

House of Pancakes
June 26th, 2008, 10:16 AM
I guess I should watch it again and keep that in mind, but I remember really disliking it when I first saw it.

Dream-Evil
June 26th, 2008, 11:54 AM
The latest from Guy Ritchie: RocknRolla (http://www.empireonline.com/video/rocknrolla/)

Looks good. Jeremy Piven and Gerard Butler? I'm in.

mth
June 26th, 2008, 1:03 PM
My wife and I watched Candy starring Heath Ledger last night. Pretty good flick. Both Ledger and the lead chick (forget her name) did very good jobs, really played their parts well. The film did a great job showing the power of addiction and the effects it can have on people financially, emotionally, and physically. And despite them being addicts making poor choices, you still cared about them and felt their pain as the story went along, and wanted them to work things out, get clean, and be together. I did think it kind of funny that their first line of work to earn money for the drugs was prostitution, unlike in Requiem for a Dream, where it was the girl's last choice, but I guess there's probably a reason for that.
Also, I didn't really feel that sad at the end when they ended up parting ways....mainly because I didn't fully understand Heath's last line...something about a reprieve and how thin it is? Anyone who's seen it, can you clear this part up for me? I'm guessing it has something to do with her getting clean, and him not being able to.

Fro
June 26th, 2008, 2:46 PM
I'm surprised there isn't a thread about Charlie Wilson's War, because I just saw it and it is tremendous.

Alf
June 26th, 2008, 3:10 PM
Well, are you a shepherd or a sheep?

...why not start a thread...

House of Pancakes
June 26th, 2008, 11:24 PM
Don't watch this if you haven't seen Children of Men, but this is the funniest internet thing I have seen in awhile.

http://www.mediafire.com/?f3ggyqujm2f

Hulkamaniac
June 27th, 2008, 6:09 AM
If I didnt already know this, I would now be questioning your sense of humour.

Bad Obsession
July 2nd, 2008, 4:05 PM
I just watched a film called Maria Full of Grace. I found it in the deep, dark shadows of my movies folder when looking for a film to watch with the missus that neither of us had seen before. I couldn't remember why I downloaded it or what it was about but it turned out to be a really good film. It's about a Columbian girl who becomes a Mule (somebody who smuggles drugs by digesting them) and it all goes a bit wrong. Nice little drama.

I found a few more films I have no recollection of downloading in the same folder so I'm hoping a few of those will be good too. The only title I recgonise out of them is Volver, which is that Penelope Cruz film I think. Might watch that tonight too, tis worth it just for the beauty of Cruz.

Cactus Lem
July 4th, 2008, 5:15 AM
Has anyone seen The Assasination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford?

Me and my brother started watching it last night, but just couldn't get through it. It wasn't particularly a bad film or anything, and I usually love films with deep character development and study, but this was just way to dull and way to subtle to keep us interested, and after an hour and a half we gave up.

Brad Pitt's Jesse James just didn't interest either us at all, Pitt wasn't exactly amazing in the role, and as the lead actor he just didn't have me hooked, which I saw as a massive fail. Cassie Afleck's character who was actually very interesting, and very good in the role of Robert Ford, just wasn't enough to keep me involved, especially since there was a 25 minute half hour period in which he wasn't featured.

Visualy the film can't be faulted, and I liked the feeling that some of the setting was able to translate, such as the claustraphobia of the train, or the isolation of some of the old west, but overall, the film in my opinion needed something more dramatic to keep me involved. It seemed like it was desperatley trying to stray away from any sort of Hollywood dramatic moment in order to be different. But I feel that that this hurt it massivley as it was just way to quiet, and at times scenes that didn't seem overly significant seemed to drag.

Anyway, very dissapointed overall.

Morrison
July 4th, 2008, 5:51 AM
The Assassination of Jesse James was, far and away, my favorite film of last years litter.

It's a beautiful film. Not vibrant in it's beauty, though. It's not very vivid at all, and everything looks very dense. Brad Pitt looks absolutely ghostly during parts of the film. The scenes are set up very well, and the imagery is eerie, at times. Especially the winter moments. It's not action packed or particularly modern, like 3:10 to Yuma was. It's very reminiscent of older westerns; the commanding landscapes, the wandering passage of time, the perpetual loneliness. I loved it.

It plays into the legend of James without sacrificing the character development of his final months. They could've easily played up the gunslinger cowboy angle to get some extra box office, but they didn't at all. Every death in the movie is particularly methodical and gruesome.

Everybody in the cast is really strong. Sam Rockwell was awesome as Robert's brother Charlie, and made me forget he wasn't a complete dope. Casey Affleck put in another really solid role to go along with his Gone Baby Gone performance. But I absolutely adored Brad Pitt here. He captures some mystique for James. I watched every move he makes. The way he walks, what he's wearing, how he says what he says. It's a larger than life character, but not in the traditional sense, like some epic roles were(Charlton Heston as Moses, for example). It was a intensely reserved take, where you had to see him through the eyes of Robert Ford, as a celebrity before there really was such a thing.

I suppose if the arch of the story didn't grab you, it'd come off as pretty flat and uninspired, but being a fan of those stylish mood westerns, I fell in love. The biggest complaint about the film is definitely it's length. Nearly every critic that spoke ill of it said it had all the components of a wonderful film, but was stretched out beyond it'd boundaries for the sake of style and mood. I can definitely see where they're coming from, and why that would put some people off, but I watched the film almost like you'd read a piece of literature, which really makes quite a bit of sense here.

Ringo
July 4th, 2008, 5:52 AM
Has anyone seen The Assasination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford?

Me and my brother started watching it last night, but just couldn't get through it. It wasn't particularly a bad film or anything, and I usually love films with deep character development and study, but this was just way to dull and way to subtle to keep us interested, and after an hour and a half we gave up.

Brad Pitt's Jesse James just didn't interest either us at all, Pitt wasn't exactly amazing in the role, and as the lead actor he just didn't have me hooked, which I saw as a massive fail. Cassie Afleck's character who was actually very interesting, and very good in the role of Robert Ford, just wasn't enough to keep me involved, especially since there was a 25 minute half hour period in which he wasn't featured.

Visualy the film can't be faulted, and I liked the feeling that some of the setting was able to translate, such as the claustraphobia of the train, or the isolation of some of the old west, but overall, the film in my opinion needed something more dramatic to keep me involved. It seemed like it was desperatley trying to stray away from any sort of Hollywood dramatic moment in order to be different. But I feel that that this hurt it massivley as it was just way to quiet, and at times scenes that didn't seem overly significant seemed to drag.

Anyway, very dissapointed overall.

Morrison's gonna kill ya.

While I disagree with much of your assessment, please go watch The Proposition, because it's BETTER, and Nick Cave & Warren Ellis are on even better form.

EDIT: And oh look there he is. "Far and away" though, Mori? You awful awful person.

Morrison
July 4th, 2008, 5:56 AM
Morrison's gonna kill ya.

While I disagree with much of your assessment, please go watch The Proposition, because it's BETTER, and Nick Cave & Warren Ellis are on even better form.

EDIT: And oh look there he is. "Far and away" though, Mori? You awful awful person.

Killing commenced about a minute earlier.

Lem highly rates Babel, which I just can't understand! And Brad totally shit on that role with his turn as Jesse James.

Edit: would you rather me use 'head and shoulders above?'

Cactus Lem
July 4th, 2008, 6:26 AM
The Assassination of Jesse James was, far and away, my favorite film of last years litter.

It's a beautiful film. Not vibrant in it's beauty, though. It's not very vivid at all, and everything looks very dense. Brad Pitt looks absolutely ghostly during parts of the film. The scenes are set up very well, and the imagery is eerie, at times. Especially the winter moments. It's not action packed or particularly modern, like 3:10 to Yuma was. It's very reminiscent of older westerns; the commanding landscapes, the wandering passage of time, the perpetual loneliness. I loved it.

It plays into the legend of James without sacrificing the character development of his final months. They could've easily played up the gunslinger cowboy angle to get some extra box office, but they didn't at all. Every death in the movie is particularly methodical and gruesome.

Everybody in the cast is really strong. Sam Rockwell was awesome as Robert's brother Charlie, and made me forget he wasn't a complete dope. Casey Affleck put in another really solid role to go along with his Gone Baby Gone performance. But I absolutely adored Brad Pitt here. He captures some mystique for James. I watched every move he makes. The way he walks, what he's wearing, how he says what he says. It's a larger than life character, but not in the traditional sense, like some epic roles were(Charlton Heston as Moses, for example). It was a intensely reserved take, where you had to see him through the eyes of Robert Ford, as a celebrity before there really was such a thing.

I suppose if the arch of the story didn't grab you, it'd come off as pretty flat and uninspired, but being a fan of those stylish mood westerns, I fell in love. The biggest complaint about the film is definitely it's length. Nearly every critic that spoke ill of it said it had all the components of a wonderful film, but was stretched out beyond it'd boundaries for the sake of style and mood. I can definitely see where they're coming from, and why that would put some people off, but I watched the film almost like you'd read a piece of literature, which really makes quite a bit of sense here.

Yeah I'm not gonna disagree with that as I can see why someone would enjoy it, but like you say in your final paragraph, it was "stretched out", and I really dislike films that pad and stretch things out needlesly. Spielberg often does it (although his films are obviously waaaaay more Hollywood than Jesse James), and I'm often taken out of the film due to that. Take a film of a similar length such as Goodfellas, and you get the feeling that every scene is vital and key the narrative in some way. Every scene develops a key character who plays a key part in the narrative, or furthers part of the plot significantly, I just didn't get that here. Stuff like that old man's bird getting a ragging while she's sat on the shitter for example just didn't seem overly significant and seemed to stray away from the main story arc of Ford and James, therefore taking me out of the film.

I've seen comparisons to Terrence Malick, and I'm a pretty big fan of Badlands and can kind of see where those comparisons come from, especially in regard to the acting style and looking up to an older rouge like figure, but in all I found that story easier to get into, and didn't think it padded anywhere close to the extent that Jesse James seemed too.

Also Ringo, I was meaning to watch The Proposition this week, but other stuff came up, and I'm off on holiday tomorow, so give it a couple of weeks.

I think I'm in the mood for some senseless violence today though, might watch Die Hard 4 later on, as I haven't re-watched it since getting it on DVD for christmas.

Ringo
July 4th, 2008, 6:40 AM
Killing commenced about a minute earlier.

Lem highly rates Babel, which I just can't understand! And Brad totally shit on that role with his turn as Jesse James.

Edit: would you rather me use 'head and shoulders above?'

Well no, I'd RATHER you said "Hey Assassination of Jesse James was head and shoulders above the rest (apart from There Will Be Blood and maybe NCFOM and Atonement)" but that's just not going to happen IS IT.

Beforehand
July 4th, 2008, 8:36 AM
The Assassination of Jesse James was, far and away, my favorite film of last years litter.

It's a beautiful film. Not vibrant in it's beauty, though. It's not very vivid at all, and everything looks very dense. Brad Pitt looks absolutely ghostly during parts of the film. The scenes are set up very well, and the imagery is eerie, at times. Especially the winter moments. It's not action packed or particularly modern, like 3:10 to Yuma was. It's very reminiscent of older westerns; the commanding landscapes, the wandering passage of time, the perpetual loneliness. I loved it.

It plays into the legend of James without sacrificing the character development of his final months. They could've easily played up the gunslinger cowboy angle to get some extra box office, but they didn't at all. Every death in the movie is particularly methodical and gruesome.

Everybody in the cast is really strong. Sam Rockwell was awesome as Robert's brother Charlie, and made me forget he wasn't a complete dope. Casey Affleck put in another really solid role to go along with his Gone Baby Gone performance. But I absolutely adored Brad Pitt here. He captures some mystique for James. I watched every move he makes. The way he walks, what he's wearing, how he says what he says. It's a larger than life character, but not in the traditional sense, like some epic roles were(Charlton Heston as Moses, for example). It was a intensely reserved take, where you had to see him through the eyes of Robert Ford, as a celebrity before there really was such a thing.

I suppose if the arch of the story didn't grab you, it'd come off as pretty flat and uninspired, but being a fan of those stylish mood westerns, I fell in love. The biggest complaint about the film is definitely it's length. Nearly every critic that spoke ill of it said it had all the components of a wonderful film, but was stretched out beyond it'd boundaries for the sake of style and mood. I can definitely see where they're coming from, and why that would put some people off, but I watched the film almost like you'd read a piece of literature, which really makes quite a bit of sense here.

:yesyes: Except it wasn't far and away my favorite, or even my favorite at all.

Murphy
July 4th, 2008, 8:43 AM
Finally saw Spiderman at the weekend and wasn’t expecting to enjoy it nearly as much as I did. Super fun stuff. I now must watch 2 and 3.

Kirsten Dunst is far better as a redhead. :yesyes: Although in this film, she looks like she’s about to fall asleep throughout.

Aussie_Outlaw
July 4th, 2008, 9:01 AM
My wife and I watched Candy starring Heath Ledger last night. Pretty good flick. Both Ledger and the lead chick (forget her name) did very good jobs, really played their parts well.

Abby Cornish.

mth
July 4th, 2008, 1:33 PM
Right, we looked her up after I wrote that. Thanks, though. :yes:

Morrison
July 4th, 2008, 9:08 PM
Well no, I'd RATHER you said "Hey Assassination of Jesse James was head and shoulders above the rest (apart from There Will Be Blood and maybe NCFOM and Atonement)" but that's just not going to happen IS IT.

Well it was, IN MY OPINION, Ringo.

Beer-Belly
July 5th, 2008, 6:53 AM
Finally saw Spiderman at the weekend and wasn’t expecting to enjoy it nearly as much as I did. Super fun stuff. I now must watch 2 and 3.
Let the story end at 2. The third one will just piss you off.

VanillaJello
July 7th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Agreed with BB on that one...

Just got through watching "the air i breathe".

Had Forrest Whitaker, Brendan Fraser, Kevin Bacon, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Emile Hirsch and Andy Garcia..

A cheap knock off of Crash with all the stories tying together... much harder to follow the plot though, and obviously not nearly at gut wrenching.

I'm assuming it was a straight to DVD movie... might be worth a look if your into the multiple plot archs.

mth
July 7th, 2008, 11:44 PM
Watched The Simpsons Movie on DVD yesterday. As good the second time as it was the first.
Anyway, my point here is....Special Features...."Let's All Go to the Lobby"....funniest thing ever. Watched it four times, and nearly cried laughing. Amazing.

PurePlayer
July 7th, 2008, 11:50 PM
I just got done watching Blade Runner and North by Northwest. I have to say that I just couldn't get into Blade Runner for some reason. I just can't really explain it, but I thought I would like the movie better.

North by Northwest was a very good good thriller. The movie looked really good considering it was made in 1959. I think I am going to start watching more Hitchcock films as the only ones I have seen are Psycho and this one.

mth
July 7th, 2008, 11:58 PM
I definitely recommend you watch more Hitchcock. Rope, Vertigo, The Birds. All great stuff.

Jimmy Zero
July 8th, 2008, 12:14 AM
If you liked North by Northwest, I'd go for Rear Window and Vertigo next.

mth
July 8th, 2008, 12:18 AM
I still need to see Rear Window yet.

Jimmy Zero
July 8th, 2008, 1:30 AM
In fact, just watch all the Jimmy Stewart/Hitchcock movies. I'm not sure, off the top of my head (I'm writing a paper for class and don't want to get too sidetracked by looking up Jimmy Stewart movies), but North by Northwest, Vertigo and Rear Window might be all the movies they did together. I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong about that, though.

The_Mike
July 8th, 2008, 1:55 AM
Rear Window was great. It was like watching theatre on screen, really. If I recall correctly 'we' as the audience never actually left the main room of Stewart's apartment yet the film never really drags, it manages to just amp up the tension as we watch what happens to the other characters, and we share Stewart's predicament in that we are basically powerless and can't be sure we're seeing what we think we saw. The more I think about it the greater the idea to set a movie in an apartment, centred around an immobile man seems.

I couldn't get into Blade Runner either, PurePlayer. It started well but then seemed to just grow really fuzzy and meandering and by the end I didn't care any more. A shame, since it seemed right up my ally from all I'd heard about it. I would give it another chance but I just can't be bothered. Maybe if I'm really at a loss, or if someone can tell me why it's so good without being fanboyish.

VanillaJello
July 8th, 2008, 11:49 AM
I'd put the Birds up there as one of the better Hitchcok movies... I still enjoy it to this day... Not too happy about the Naomi Watts remake, but I assume it will turn out better than the Vince Vaughn Psycho remake.

Btw, if you watch North by Northwest, there is a famous scene in which an extra gives away the plot well before the scene actually occurs.

In the Mount Rushmore cafe shooting scene... If you look closely, one of the extras, a child, has his hands over his ears awaiting the prop gun to fire. It's a quick little easter egg in the movie, but I think its pretty cool none the less.

PurePlayer
July 8th, 2008, 12:49 PM
I definitely recommend you watch more Hitchcock. Rope, Vertigo, The Birds. All great stuff.

Ahhh I forgot about The Birds. Great movie. I will try to catch Rear Window and Vertigo within the next couple weeks I hope.

mth
July 8th, 2008, 12:58 PM
I'd put the Birds up there as one of the better Hitchcok movies... I still enjoy it to this day... Not too happy about the Naomi Watts remake, but I assume it will turn out better than the Vince Vaughn Psycho remake.

Btw, if you watch North by Northwest, there is a famous scene in which an extra gives away the plot well before the scene actually occurs.

In the Mount Rushmore cafe shooting scene... If you look closely, one of the extras, a child, has his hands over his ears awaiting the prop gun to fire. It's a quick little easter egg in the movie, but I think its pretty cool none the less.

I seem to remember reading that on imdb, so I think I must have seen North by Northwest to look that up.

VanillaJello
July 8th, 2008, 1:00 PM
I had a really cool film teacher back in College...

He always took time out of class to show us the little mistakes/easter eggs that were hidden in the films we would watch.

Loved that class.

Beforehand
July 8th, 2008, 1:34 PM
"Vertigo" has to be my favorite, and that's saying something, owing to the immense degree I wanted to punch Jimmy Stewart in the face every time I watched him.

VanillaJello
July 8th, 2008, 1:36 PM
How could you ever want to punch Mr. Smith in the face?

All he ever wanted to do was go to Washington and make progress for the everyman.

I steal cable
July 8th, 2008, 2:30 PM
Guy Ritchie may make a Sherlock Holmes film.

I'm not sure how to feel.

Never been a big fan of Guy Ritchie or British Gangster films in general but I love my Sherlock.

Guy
July 8th, 2008, 2:53 PM
Apparently so is Apatow, with Will Ferrell and Sacha Baron Cohen.

But a comedy

I steal cable
July 8th, 2008, 2:57 PM
Can't be as good as 'Without a Clue'

RockOverBoston
July 8th, 2008, 4:48 PM
"The King Of Kong" was one of the most talked-about documentary films of last year, and just looking at the premise of it -- two guys battle for the all time Donkey Kong hight score record - I really didn't see how it could be so compelling.

It's airing on the G4 network fairly frequently now, though, so I figured it'd be worth checking out just to see whether or not it lived up to all of the hype.

And boy, did it! Truly, there's no reason to believe that a docufilm about this topic could be anywhere near this entertaining, but it turns out that one of the guys is a really nice family man whose pursuit of the record is fucked with repeatdly for a number of reasons, and his rival is a complete and total asshole. There are a whole number of interesting side characters - some likeable, some deplorable. You actually find yourself pulling for the good guy.

Undeniably the best documentary film about a video game ever.

Hulkamaniac
July 8th, 2008, 4:52 PM
Lets not forget that its deliberately and clever edited to build the two different sides, create a good vs evil binary opposition. Not say its not true, but its certainly exaggerated.

I bought There Will Be Blood and Juno this weekend and a few DVDs before that. I'm racing onto 400 now.

RockOverBoston
July 8th, 2008, 4:57 PM
Lets not forget that its deliberately and clever edited to build the two different sides, create a good vs evil binary opposition. Not say its not true, but its certainly exaggerated.

Oh, very much so, but it was extremely effective.

They run a special on G4 after the movie, though, and it appears that that Billy guy really is just about that much of a dick in real life.

I steal cable
July 8th, 2008, 5:06 PM
I bought There Will Be Blood and Juno this weekend and a few DVDs before that. I'm racing onto 400 now.

I'm gonna sell most my DVD's. I know I'll get knowt money for each one, but I'm sick and tired of my siblings lending them out without telling me and then not getting them back. I wanted to watch The Lost Boys yesterday but it was mysteriously missing from my collection. Same for Boyz n the Hood and Man Bites Dog, they've all gone walkabouts and it's only when I wanna watch them do I realize they've gone.

Hulkamaniac
July 8th, 2008, 5:16 PM
I feel your pain. An ex-girlfriend loaned 10 of my DVDs and never returned them. A year down the line, I've had to buy them again. I loaned one to an old work colleague and never saw that again, have lent a few around at work and struggle to remember who has what in order to get them back again. I'd say that over the year I've bought maybe 25 films twice because they've gone missing never to be returned. Shit crack.

I steal cable
July 8th, 2008, 5:34 PM
I wouldn't mind as much if I actually knew which ones were missing. It's when I have a sudden urge to watch a film after hearing a song or remembering some quote from it just to find it ain't there. I was almost in tears when I couldn't find my La Haine. I knew it was my youngest sister who lent it out to one of her friends, she wanted look oh so sophisticated and intelligent by showing her mates she had some French film.

cherry malotte
July 8th, 2008, 7:00 PM
I'll second the Rear Window recommendation - one of my fave Hitchcock films and one of a few that Stewart made after 1940 that I can stand.

If you'd like to go a little further back into Hitch's directing you might like Saboteur or Shadow of a Doubt - good stuff.

Vice
July 8th, 2008, 7:26 PM
"The King Of Kong" was one of the most talked-about documentary films of last year, and just looking at the premise of it -- two guys battle for the all time Donkey Kong hight score record - I really didn't see how it could be so compelling.

It's airing on the G4 network fairly frequently now, though, so I figured it'd be worth checking out just to see whether or not it lived up to all of the hype.

And boy, did it! Truly, there's no reason to believe that a docufilm about this topic could be anywhere near this entertaining, but it turns out that one of the guys is a really nice family man whose pursuit of the record is fucked with repeatdly for a number of reasons, and his rival is a complete and total asshole. There are a whole number of interesting side characters - some likeable, some deplorable. You actually find yourself pulling for the good guy.

Undeniably the best documentary film about a video game ever.


The biggest problem is
It ends on a happy note with Wiebe finally taking the bastard down and getting the top score, but he lost the record 3 months later by only fucking 1,100 points. The bastard is still #1. :\

KorruptJustice
July 9th, 2008, 7:07 AM
How could you ever want to punch Mr. Smith in the face?

All he ever wanted to do was go to Washington and make progress for the everyman.

I don't know, but I really wouldn't mind punching him either. I think it's his voice; it just fills me with unexplainable hate and rage. Still, there's been at least a few movies of his that I've been able to still enjoy quite a bit (Rear Window, Anatomy of a Murder, The Man who Shot Liberty Valance).


If you'd like to go a little further back into Hitch's directing you might like Saboteur or Shadow of a Doubt - good stuff.

I just saw Shadow of a Doubt a few months ago, and I have to say that I was really dissapointed in it. Maybe it was because I had such high expectations, due to both my friend's recommendation and the fact it's in the IMDB 250, but I could not get into it at all.:(

Hulkamaniac
July 9th, 2008, 10:04 AM
ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE!!!

cherry malotte
July 9th, 2008, 3:52 PM
I just saw Shadow of a Doubt a few months ago, and I have to say that I was really dissapointed in it. Maybe it was because I had such high expectations, due to both my friend's recommendation and the fact it's in the IMDB 250, but I could not get into it at all.:(

Awww...oh well. I just love Joseph Cotten being an nassssty man in it. That Imdb list is very goofy, and that's the polite way to put it. If you get a chance try Saboteur, the end is a killer. There was a documentary out on Norman Lloyd who really is the last of the Welles Mercury Theatre players and still has all his marbles, I would love to see it.


ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE!!!

I wish I liked that more.

PurePlayer
July 9th, 2008, 9:25 PM
I just saw "There Will Be Blood." I really liked it, but not quite as much as No Country For Old Men though.