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RockOverBoston
March 16th, 2008, 7:53 PM
You Netflix members know the new release trick? It's pretty simple, and should remain effective just as long as the entire world doesn't figure it out.

As a very good example, "Atonement" comes out on DVD this Tuesday. Since it takes at least a day to get you a movie via the mail, however, Netflix is able to ship new releases the day before they are released. In order to (all but) guarantee yourself a copy of new releases, don't send one of your movies back until the previous Saturday. It'll arrive at your Netflix distributor Monday and be replaced by the new release that's atop your queue -- in this week's case, that being "Atonement", which would arrive in your mailbox on its first date of actual release.

Try it and you'll avoid having to wait a few weeks for brand new releases. It's worked for me every time.

Annette
March 16th, 2008, 8:05 PM
Yep, I've been taking advantage of that trick for a while now. :D If things work out, they should be sending me "I Am Legend" tomorrow.

Hulkamaniac
March 16th, 2008, 8:06 PM
If you had any sense, they'd be sending you Atonement instead.

Annette
March 16th, 2008, 8:08 PM
If you had any sense, they'd be sending you Atonement instead.

It's on the list, just not high priority - was the book better than the movie? I couldn't finish the book.

Hulkamaniac
March 16th, 2008, 8:09 PM
No, it wasnt. The movie was better.

Annette
March 16th, 2008, 8:14 PM
No, it wasnt. The movie was better.

In that case, I'll bump it up and get that along with "I Am Legend" tomorrow. I didn't care for the book at all and since it's usually a case of "the book is better than the movie", I was just going to wait a while.

Zen
March 16th, 2008, 8:15 PM
So I watched all the Lord of the Ring movies as they came out in theaters, and I was really underwhelmed, just stumbled across my unopened copy of Fellowship of the Ring, just wondering if maybe it'd be worth my time to give them another chance maybe.

Totally.

Annette
March 16th, 2008, 9:59 PM
I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyways: Did anyone watch So You Think You Can Dance over the summer?

I was bored and checking out some of the older auditions and dances - I think this is still my absolute favorite audition to date, hip hop dancer Phillip Chbeeb: http://youtube.com/watch?v=M7m_eTXNv4Y

Jimmy Zero
March 16th, 2008, 11:06 PM
Anybody else been watching Free Radio on VH1? Jesus Christ, that show cracks me up.

RockOverBoston
March 16th, 2008, 11:35 PM
It's definitly pretty funny, yeah.

VH1 seems to have this inexplicable power over myself, my family, my girlfriend and the majority of the people I know -- if they air it, it truly does not matter how shitty it is, I'll watch it at least once, so it's good that "Free Radio" is legitimatly entertaining.

No excuse for the fact that I'm watching "Rock Of Love" right now, though. Seriously, none. Can't blame my girlfriend, because she's at her sister's house. Can't blame a lack of anything else to watch, because I've probably got over 200 channels and God only knows how many DVDs. There's certainly plenty of other shit I could be doing.

Man, this is pretty bad. I think I am hooked on "CelebReality".

Except for shows involving Scott Baio and Chris & Adrianna. That's kind of like a junkie trying to justify his habit by saying that he only shoots up every day but Tuesday, during which he snorts, though, isn't it?

Jimmy Zero
March 16th, 2008, 11:50 PM
I'm right there with you. Other than Charles in Charge has a baby and that stupid Brady crap, I will absolutely watch anything on that network at least once. Especially since they've stopped doing that god awful Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous junk.

I was, ironically enough, absolutely addicted to Celebrity Rehab w/ Dr. Drew.

And on an unrelated note, I want to fuck Chelsea Handler so bad.

RockOverBoston
March 17th, 2008, 12:02 AM
I was, ironically enough, absolutely addicted to Celebrity Rehab w/ Dr. Drew.

Oh fuck yeah -- except come on now, you're "addicted to marijuana"? Get the fuck out of here, sister that no one remembers from "Family Matters". I'm sure that there's gotta be a kid from "Just The Ten Of Us" who's got bigger issues than you...

Annette
March 17th, 2008, 12:05 AM
I wish they would bring back "Pop-Up Video"! I watch the older ones on VH1 Classic but some new stuff would be entertaining.

Jimmy Zero
March 17th, 2008, 12:12 AM
Oh fuck yeah -- except come on now, you're "addicted to marijuana"? Get the fuck out of here, sister that no one remembers from "Family Matters". I'm sure that there's gotta be a kid from "Just The Ten Of Us" who's got bigger issues than you...

Yeah, that chick was lame. She's sitting next to that benzo freak from Grease and that American Idol girl all complaining about smoking too many blunts. Give me a break. If I was any of those other people, I'd have been just like that crowd in Half Baked. "Boo this man!"

Want to know how to smoke less pot? Get a god damn hobby.

I really like Shelley, too.

blackening
March 17th, 2008, 12:16 AM
I was, ironically enough, absolutely addicted to Celebrity Rehab w/ Dr. Drew.
Me and my girlfriend were hooked on this show. I'm pretty bummed that it's over. They should do a second season with new celebrities.

We watch Rock of Love sometimes too. :(

RockOverBoston
March 17th, 2008, 12:22 AM
Oh, I don't think that there's any question about whether or not "Celebrity Rehab" will be a long running show. As long as there are B-list celebrities with bad habits and the desire to get on television for a quick check, this show will continue to exist.

In other news, Bret Michaels is heartbroken...and actually a little bit pathetic too.

Jimmy Zero
March 17th, 2008, 12:23 AM
Me and my girlfriend were hooked on this show. I'm pretty bummed that it's over. They should do a second season with new celebrities.

We watch Rock of Love sometimes too. :(


Oh, you know they will. There's got to be a Jeff show. Got to.

I actually can't stand Rock of Love. Bret Michaels is so lame that it actually hurts to watch. All I want to know is just how far his hairline has receded. The only reason I watch that show is the delusional hope I have that one of his gay cowboy hats will blow off his head in the wind and he'll look just like David Spade at the end of Tommy Boy.

EdgeHead469
March 17th, 2008, 6:45 AM
Anyone here watch the new show on Fox called "Unhitched"? The show is pretty funny, I just have not seen anyone mention it.

RockOverBoston
March 17th, 2008, 9:34 AM
I saw an episode. There's good reason why no one's mentioning it - it's pretty fucking bad.

In more related news, since we've got a few fans here this could be a fun game -- predict the cast of season 2 of "Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew"

Scott Stapp - former lead singer of Creed, he's gained some substantial coverage for his drug and alcohol-related problems in recent years, and his career is pretty much at this point.

Token Former "American Idol" contestant - I see this being a recurring pattern on this program, as there are a lot of them, and while I've never watched "Idol" on account of the fact that it's one of the biggest problems with the music business today, certainly enough people do where one of the previous losing contestants who's struggling with booze and/or drugs will be recognizable...sort of...to the majority of the audience.

Sasha Mitchell - I believe that's his name, anyway. I half-jokingly mentioned "Just The Ten Of Us" earlier, and what with there being 8 child-ish actors on that program, certainly one of them must be struggling with something. I remember hearing a few years back that this guy had been charged with some sort of drug-fueled statutory rape. Beg for our forgiveness, Sasha -- if that is your real name.

Tank Abbott - MMA could be a field that they repeatedly tap into to cast this show, so who better than the guy who admitted to blowing an 8-ball and chugging a fifth of vodka before some of his biggest fights?

Corey Feldman - VH1 really seems big on cross-casting these CelebReality shows, and much like Prime Time Sitcom Kid, MMA Guy, Washed-Up Musician, and Token AI Contestant, I figure this show will always feature a former "Surreal Life"-r as well. Feldman's got the fullblown addict background plus the whole former child actor thing going for him, so he's gotta be the most likely Surreal Life-r of the bunch...though I'm not ruling out "Mini-Me" peeing in more corners by any stretch of the imagination.

Jenna Jameson - it'd be a bigger deal than Mary Carey, that's for sure, and porn stars love them some drugs and booze. Sadly, this would probably be the biggest celebrity on this show by no small margin. Maybe I can do something about that with this last slot...

Darryl Strawberry - Okay, I know it's no longer the late 80's-early 90's, but I dare say he's still the most famous currently of this bunch, and his story, which you know damned well is not finished, could prove to be the "feel-good" tale that this first season sort of failed to deliver (Bridgette Nielsen no longer smokes cigarettes, you say? Good for her, I guess. Chyna finally admits that she could possibly actually be an addict? Wow, what a revelation. That chick no one remembers "relapsed" and still smokes weed? Uh, that's too bad, I suppose...) - see, Straw's kid is now a marginally talented fringe NBA player who's likely to encounter all of the same trappings that killed Dad's potential Hall Of Fame career dead, and dimes to dollars, I'm betting Darryl's still junking it up down in Tampa. I'm frankly surprised that he never found his way into "The Surreal Life" house; this could be a pairing that fits.

Also -- special guest counselor Whichever Baldwin That Was From The First Season, Daniel I Think!

Motivational guest appearances by Jeff Conaway and Shifty From "Crazy Town"!

I'd say that Scott Weiland could be a midseason replacement for whoever flips out and leaves the show (I'm looking at you, Feldman) but he's still way too big of a star and his forthcoming 14th attempt at recovery will probably merit a CelebReality show of its own. Should, anyway. The replacement slot may very well go to a former pro wrestler...

Hey yo...we know who you are, and we do know why you're here. Take over Celebrity Rehab, chico!

EDIT: I noticed that my cast is fairly male-loaded, so throw in any 2 of the following: Lindsay Lohan's mom Dina, Willa Ford, Janice Dickinson, Natasha Lyonne (in fact, go ahead and add her to my cast right now), Rebecca Lobo (just a hunch), Tammy Lynn Sytch (if Scott Hall is, in fact, unavailable) and Monica.

Kure
March 17th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Sasha Mitchell - I believe that's his name, anyway. I half-jokingly mentioned "Just The Ten Of Us" earlier, and what with there being 8 child-ish actors on that program, certainly one of them must be struggling with something. I remember hearing a few years back that this guy had been charged with some sort of drug-fueled statutory rape. Beg for our forgiveness, Sasha -- if that is your real name.

Tank Abbott - MMA could be a field that they repeatedly tap into to cast this show, so who better than the guy who admitted to blowing an 8-ball and chugging a fifth of vodka before some of his biggest fights?

I don't know that I'd want to rehab either one of these guys. Tank is nuts, and Sasha Mitchell appeared to be getting a bit better at Thai kickboxing by the time his Kickboxer franchise disappeared with little to no fanfare. Although I would tune in to see Dr. Drew take an elbow to the face.

And I've been watching Unhitched. I thought it was pretty good. A bit predictable, as the genre has been done a lot on Fox. But this weeks episode was pretty good, and last week's with the escort was good times.

"She didn't even put out."

"It's not like I didn't try. He wanted to wait."

"I thought she was special."

:lol:

Jimmy Zero
March 17th, 2008, 10:37 AM
Sasha Mitchell? Isn't that the Code-man, Cody the stoner who lives in the drive way, from Step by Step? If so, :lol:

Any of those people ROB listed are good bets. Think Amy Winehouse is too famous right now for Dr. Drew?

How cool would it be if Adam Carolla made a guest appearance to make fun of all the addicts?

RockOverBoston
March 17th, 2008, 6:30 PM
Yeah, every time I said "Just The Ten Of Us", I actually meant "Step By Step".

Winehouse is way, waaaaaay too big for this show.

Zen
March 17th, 2008, 6:46 PM
There is no way Strawberry is more famous than Jenna. The world watches Porn, baseball tries to make you think they're in the same league.

Unless this is an american tv show for which you are casting(very well might I say) then perhaps at one time his fame rivals hers.

Jimmy Zero
March 17th, 2008, 7:05 PM
What do you mean perhaps? Of course he was more famous than her when he was playing. She was probably like 5 years old at the time.

Jimmy Zero
March 17th, 2008, 7:20 PM
Yeah, every time I said "Just The Ten Of Us", I actually meant "Step By Step".

Winehouse is way, waaaaaay too big for this show.

Was that a working title of the show? I had it bad for Suzanne Somers when I was a kid.

About CelebRehab: I saw Dr. Drew in an interview and he said the original premise for the show was to have the celebs and regular joe blow addicts in rehab together. He said the celebs new what to expect with the cameras and all that stuff, but that almost all the regular folks just freaked and couldn't handle it. Too bad, as I think the potential resentment that the regular people could have felt towards the celebs could have been absolutely compelling.

hithit
March 17th, 2008, 8:22 PM
Can anyone that's seen Gone Baby Gone give me a quick rundown about it?
Looks like it's a good movie and i wanna check it out, but i figure one of you movie buffs could give me some details.

Zen
March 17th, 2008, 8:41 PM
What do you mean perhaps? Of course he was more famous than her when he was playing. She was probably like 5 years old at the time.

I'm talking about their peaks.

RockOverBoston
March 17th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Can anyone that's seen Gone Baby Gone give me a quick rundown about it?
Looks like it's a good movie and i wanna check it out, but i figure one of you movie buffs could give me some details.

The daughter of a Dot-rat single mother played by Amy Ryan goes missing. Casey Affleck and Michelle Moynaghan are hired to try and find her with the full cooperation of Boston Police chief Morgan Freeman and longtime cop Ed Harris. Ben Affleck directs.

That's about as detailed as I can get without spoiling anything; it's a busy movie with a lot of twists and turns, and definitly worth seeing. Everyone's quite good in it, most notably Ryan and Casey.

hithit
March 17th, 2008, 11:57 PM
Thanks ROB.
I've been seeing commercials for it, it's on demand on charter, figured i would give it a rent this weekend.

blackening
March 18th, 2008, 12:47 AM
Oh, you know they will. There's got to be a Jeff show. Got to.
TAKE IT FUCKING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!

They should get Jeff Hardy for a 2nd season.

RockOverBoston
March 18th, 2008, 1:05 AM
It's not so much a matter of Jeff Hardy being too famous for the show, as he's not, but his schedule would certainly make it an impossibility.

Furthermore, he'd probably be one of the more boring characters possible. Remove the high-flying wrestling moves and flashy ring gear, and he strikes me as a terribly, terribly boring person whose struggles viewers would find it hard to get behind.

PurePlayer
March 18th, 2008, 9:32 AM
I watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest again last night on one of my movie channels, and what an amazing movie this really is. As highly rated as this movie is, I think it is still an underrated movie.

Hobbit
March 18th, 2008, 10:12 AM
Saw Zodiac (the most recent one) last night. I quite liked it, a decent fairly dark film and I wasn't aware of the case in reality. I thought Mark Ruffalo was great in it too, I've not seen many of his films but I might check a few more out now.

Went on for long enough too, clocked it at about 2 and a half hours, around half an hour too long really.

Recommend it though if you like your serial killer films, but it's not a classic.

KorruptJustice
March 18th, 2008, 3:25 PM
Just saw Gone Baby Gone today. Absolutely amazing film. I thought that the entire cast did a great job, and the ending to the movie just blew me away. I can't believe I didn't bother to go see this in theaters.

On an unrelated subject, I was going to buy No Country for Old Men yesterday, until I noticed that there were very few special features. A lot of times when you see this for new releases, it means that there's probably a Special Edition coming pretty soon, but I haven't heard anything about it. Does anyone know if that's the case here, or is this going to be the only version to come out (at least for a year or two)?

RockOverBoston
March 18th, 2008, 3:43 PM
I'd be absolutely shocked if a Special Edition isn't already in the works.

House of Pancakes
March 18th, 2008, 7:54 PM
Just came in here to say that I watched Bergman's Winter Light yesterday and was in awe. It's one of the most gorgeous screenplays I have ever witnessed. The usual great acting and cinematography from a Bergman film, but the concepts talked about really hit home for me. A really rich and thoughtful movie, recommended to everyone. It's basically about a pastor who begins to question his own religion and life decisions, and the pastor's character arcs are very real and very well-executed.

Annette
March 18th, 2008, 11:09 PM
Hollywood's 6 Favorite Offensive Stereotypes: http://www.cracked.com/article_15989_hollywoods-6-favorite-offensive-stereotypes.html

Well worth the read, pretty damn funny!

Organasm
March 19th, 2008, 5:21 AM
In Tropic Thunder Robert Downey Jr. plays a white Oscar-winning actor who plays a role, in the most expensive Vietnam movie ever made, that was originally written for a black man...

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080304/tropic-thunder_l.jpg

Ricky
March 19th, 2008, 12:50 PM
Saw the trailer for that the other day. Looks really good.

Hobbit
March 19th, 2008, 1:12 PM
In Tropic Thunder Robert Downey Jr. plays a white Oscar-winning actor who plays a role, in the most expensive Vietnam movie ever made, that was originally written for a black man...

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080304/tropic-thunder_l.jpg

ahahahaha lovely casual racism. It'll be so shit it'll be good.

Cactus Lem
March 19th, 2008, 1:33 PM
I watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest again last night on one of my movie channels, and what an amazing movie this really is. As highly rated as this movie is, I think it is still an underrated movie.

On a Jack note, I watched The Shining the other day. I can't believe it took me so damn long to get round to watching it, because my god was it amazing. I thought it was gonna be good, but it completley exceeded by expectations in every way possible.

I'd honestly say it's the best Horror film I've ever seen, I often find the genre waaaay to generic and diluted(and I'm not talking just slasher movies), but this was something else. Amazing use of the hotel, and the use of wide shots in and around the hotel lobby, really made you feel the sense of emptiness and the haunting nature of the structure. I also loved the creepiness of the corridors, and the way in which every supernaural element was just made compleltey crazy, either by Jack's over the top acting and delivery of dialogue, or the facials that the little kid was able to convey.

I could go on and on, but I'm not writing a review, so I'll stop, but just a fucking awesome film, and I'm not sure if a horror film exists that can touch The Shining.

PurePlayer
March 19th, 2008, 1:38 PM
The Shining really is a great film. Not sure if I would call it the best of it's genre though. I would put Silence of the Lambs ahead of it.

I just got done watching the Untouchables for the first time, and I thought the movie was really good. I wouldn't call it a great movie as it doesn't come close to the level of other gangster films like Goodfellas, but I definitely recommend it to anyone.

foleybumps
March 19th, 2008, 3:02 PM
Watched Disturbia last night. Good movie, and I especially liked how they threw in some light moments in the first half. Kind of gave it a different feel. I liked that feel. A lot.

I just really don't understand why the cops weren't called very early in the movie. Times in the movie when you could legitimately call the cops with little or no repurcusions:

1) When you are watching TV and it tells of a killer from location X driving a certain rare car, with a certain dent on it, and your new neighbor just moved from location X and drives said car with said dent on it.

2) When you hear screams from the neighbor's house and, upon viewing, see an apparently frantic woman running around, and red liquid is clearly visible on several of the windows.

3) When someone you know, but not very well, enters your car without permission, locks the doors, implies that he has been spying on you, and then touches your breast and you are an underage girl.

I don't mean these in the rhetorical, black comedian, "I see a muthafucka buyin' a shovel, you best believe I'm a call the police on his ass" way. I mean I really would have called them. Movie probably wouldn't have been as exciting that way though.

I was also pleasantly surprised by a couple of things. One, that they didn't go the route of "the police are in on it." I got the feeling they would with the looks some of them gave early on. Second, that they didn't go with the whole "the last ten minutes turns everything on it's head and nothing is what it seemed" that so many movies seem to be doing now. These both boil down to not over-complicating the movie. I think I saw in the info that this was a remake, and that may be why.

Other feelings:

- Instead of being depressed after the accident at the beginning of the movie, I would have lead a very optimistic existence, because I shouldn't be alive.

- The neighbor girl is absolutely delicious. I bet if her minge could speak it would surely have an Eastern European accent and would giggle incessantly.

- I would like to punch the Asian in the face. I literally stopped the movie, got up, and walked around for a few minutes at the point where he "sneaks" into the garage. Yeah, opening a garage door is fucking stealth like ninja. Seriously dude, just kiss the cell phone goodbye. Not worth getting chopped up over.

- It is now odd watching David Morse play George Washington in 'John Adams'

The Doc
March 19th, 2008, 3:30 PM
I didn't really think as far into Disturbia as that but it was a good flick. I'll go as far as to say that Disturbia ranks as my I wish I'd seen this in theatres of 2007. Specially since I DID see Spiderman 3 and god was that awful.

PurePlayer
March 19th, 2008, 3:37 PM
Spiderman 3 > Disturbia

Ace Rockola
March 19th, 2008, 5:02 PM
Spiderman 3 > Disturbia

Not by a lot though. And if you look at which one lived up to expectations, Disturbia blew Spidey out of the water.

The Doc
March 19th, 2008, 5:06 PM
Spiderman 3>Disturbia

You must be daft.

Plan 9 From Outerspace>Spiderman 3

The Marine>Spiderman 3

White noise=Spiderman 3

The_Mike
March 19th, 2008, 5:15 PM
I thought the first White Noise was good. Then again, I'm no horror aficionado, so perhaps I don't know any better. What was wrong with it?

foleybumps
March 19th, 2008, 5:22 PM
Spiderman 3>Disturbia

You must be daft.

Plan 9 From Outerspace>Spiderman 3

The Marine>Spiderman 3

White noise=Spiderman 3

Haha. I just watched "Plan 9 From Outerspace" a few weeks back.

Wonderful film. Maybe a few minor gripes about continuity, but nothing really to complain about. Beautiful acting as well.

I don't really get into the Spiderman movies, or any of the superhero movies for that matter. I just feel like you kind of know what you're in for beforehand. I also feel like a lot of the love for them comes from the fight scenes and (obviously) special effects, neither of which ever appealed to me all that much.

PurePlayer
March 19th, 2008, 5:32 PM
Spiderman 3>Disturbia

You must be daft.

Plan 9 From Outerspace>Spiderman 3

The Marine>Spiderman 3

White noise=Spiderman 3

Ok I understand how someone can have the opinion of Disturbia being better than Spiderman 3 especially if you are a female teenager. But to say that the Marine and White Noise are better or equal to it? I just can't take you taste of movies very seriously. You probably think Disturbia is better than the Godfather.

I am not saying that Spiderman 3 is a good film, but I do think it was a fun time at the movies, and I enjoyed it more than I did Disturbia.

Cactus Lem
March 19th, 2008, 5:40 PM
What's particularly bad about Spiderman 3? I went into it with low expectations due to mostly negative comments I'd heard about it, and I really liked it.

I found most of the negativity stemmed from the dance scene, which I can understand the dislike for I spose, but my god did I like it. Thought it was so strange and totally zany, but kinda funny due to it's ridiculous nature.

Ace Rockola
March 19th, 2008, 5:58 PM
What's particularly bad about Spiderman 3? I went into it with low expectations due to mostly negative comments I'd heard about it, and I really liked it.

I found most of the negativity stemmed from the dance scene, which I can understand the dislike for I spose, but my god did I like it. Thought it was so strange and totally zany, but kinda funny due to it's ridiculous nature.

My problems with Spider-Man 3 comes from going in with really high expecations (which I'd had since seeing Spider-Man 2). I remember when my theater wasn't getting it and a handfull of our employees got to watch a press screening the week before it opened. I didn't get to make it, but asked them all for opinions and most were let down and I kept telling myself that they aren't true fans, they must not get some of it, etc. Then I watch another press copy about 2 days prior to it's opening and while I was enjoying it, I wasn't getting that Spider-Man 2 feeling. I haven't seen it since rewatching it a week after, but from what I can recall the shit stuff was how horrible Kristen Dunst is (and how poorly written that character is over all, we were supposed to feel bad for her at some points, right?). Not to mention so much shit was going on. I'm far from a Venom nuthugger, but that whole thing was so screwed up it really hurts the film. That should be an epic build through a full film, not have him come to be in the second to last reel of the movie.

And I love the dance scene. It's probably my favorite part of the movie. And not in a "wrestlecrap" type way.

Bottom line though, I liked the movie. It just wasn't the jaw dropping edge of your seat experience it could have been. And while neither was Disturbia, it was a decent little PG-13 thriller. Which is more than expected.

Jimmy Zero
March 19th, 2008, 5:59 PM
The story was ass and Venom was completely pointless. Plus, apparently evil Spidey is only evil when he's sporting jazz hands.

Plus, Kirsten Dunst was in it. Also a major negative for the first two.

The Doc
March 19th, 2008, 6:00 PM
I was exagerating hense specifically picking from amongst the worst films ever made.

Disturbia I went into the flim with little to no expectations. It was a movie about a kid on house arrest spying on his neighbors. I mean I had nothing. Turned out that the movie had my full attention most of the time through (and that's saying something usually I have my tv on as background noise but I'm realy writing a story or chating online) It was a fun well thought out movie. Sure there were some fuck ups in it but all things considered it was a good movie.

Spiderman 3 is just a train wreck. Wether it's the fact that Venom was shoe horned into a movie that didn't have enough room for him or Harry's stupid face turn because his fucking Butler waited years to tell him that his father's wounds were apparently self-inflicted. Which is even worse when Harry dies the same fucking way cept the part where it isn't self inflicted.

You gotta love Sandman's uh well I was trying to kill you, you're obviously pretty beaten up. Do you mind if I just walk away? Ending.

It was even worse because Spiderman 1 & 2 were good to very good movies by any fair standard and par excellence as Comic book movies go. I mean it has to compete with Howard the Duck, Punisher and Ghost Rider.

And for the record White Noise should have been the worst movie ever made. Unfortunately it isn't. I believe that honor is held by a movie called Manos Hands of Fate. A movie so horrible that at two o'clock in the morning, when the phone book becomes hiliarious, armed with several close friends and a bottle of tequilla and with the direct assistance of the MST3K cast it was still to horrible to laugh at. It is the horrible movie by which all other horrid flicks are measured.

Edit: I didn't mind the dance sequence. And I really don't quite get the hatred for Dunst, but I do agree she was written poorly and the film was way to crammed and should have been ATLEAST 2 movies.

Jimmy Zero
March 19th, 2008, 6:02 PM
I liked Ghost Rider.

:ashamed:

Thirteen
March 19th, 2008, 6:06 PM
I'm not sure if you're a comic book fan, but I am, and a pretty big fan of Spider-Man as well, as well as loving the two previous movies. I went into the movie with high expectations, and came out feeling like crap, much the same way I did with X-Men 3 the previous year.

Spider-Man 3 was rushed, the story was actually pretty crap, and there was just so much stuff just thrown in there, with very little pay-off. Venom, who is virtually Spider-Man's Joker, was cool, for the 9 minutes he was in the movie, but it's basicaly like what would happen in The Dark Knight if The Joker is a secondary villain that is only shown the last 10 minutes of the movie.

The dance scene was the point where I actually saw people walk out of the theater yelling at the screen talking about how shitty it was, which I almost joined them.

I actually liked all the actors in it, and don't feel the need to bash Toby or Kirsten, and I thought Thomas Church and Topher Grace did a good job in what they had for them, where as I actually believed Eddie Brock pre-Venom was actually one of the best characters in the movie, however, while I like Bryce Howard, I thought Gwen Stacy was a throwaway character that served no real purpose.

So those are the many reasons why I didn't like Spider-Man 3 and found it to be one of, if not, the worst movie I saw in 2007.

The Doc
March 19th, 2008, 6:29 PM
I liked Ghost Rider.

:ashamed:
:getout:

I'd completely forgotten about Gwen Stacy and vast injustice that was done by using her as a throw away when she's such an important charachter in the mythos.

Jimmy Zero
March 19th, 2008, 6:57 PM
Cut me some slack. I saw it while I was stoned and the fire looked cool. Plus, Eva Mendes has a superb rack.

The Doc
March 19th, 2008, 7:30 PM
So does Kristina Loken but that didn't make Bloodrayne watchable.

Jimmy Zero
March 19th, 2008, 7:37 PM
That's Uwe Boll.

Totally unfair comparison. Plus, for arguments sake, that chick Terminator isn't even close to the supple goodness of Eva Mendes.

The Doc
March 19th, 2008, 7:56 PM
That's a matter of opinion. If I had to choose I'd be all over Kristina.

Thirteen
March 19th, 2008, 8:34 PM
Ghostrider?

The hell?

During the first transformation into Ghost Rider by Nicolas Cage, I literally busted up laughing. I mean it was seriously bad. Not even sure if being high would have improved the movie.

Beer-Belly
March 19th, 2008, 8:36 PM
The story was ass and Venom was completely pointless. Plus, apparently evil Spidey is only evil when he's sporting jazz hands.

Plus, Kirsten Dunst was in it. Also a major negative for the first two.

Exactly.

Say what you will about Venom, but he's way cooler than the Sandman. The "bad guy with a heart of gold" story never works. Especially when Sandman murdered Uncle Ben. Fuck that; that's inexcusable. As is Eddie Brock being played by Eric Foreman. To make that character an arrogant Peter doppelganger is to completely miss the point. Raimi should have just focused on Venom being a violent vigilante and Harry being the new Green Goblin. Also, Mary-Jane should have been killed.

The Doc
March 20th, 2008, 12:18 AM
Honestly I would have done Spidey 3 & 4 as a two parter like they did the Matrix.

The firs tmovie would be Petey getting wailed on for the first half by the villians (I nominate Lizard/Harry Goblin) the second half is him wailing and eventually nearly killing Harry in a climax battle. The movie would have ended with Peter tearing off the black suit and Eddie getting it. That clip we all fell in love with would have been the last thing you saw.

The next movie would have featured Eddie doing all of the fucked up shit that Harry did with MJ as well as Peter's whining. We would really have played up that Venom was immune to Spidey sense and the entire movie would have been about the relationship betwee Spidey and Venom.

I likely would have killed Mary Jane or played up Gwen Stacy enough to kill her.

Jimmy Zero
March 20th, 2008, 12:43 AM
Ghostrider?

The hell?

During the first transformation into Ghost Rider by Nicolas Cage, I literally busted up laughing. I mean it was seriously bad. Not even sure if being high would have improved the movie.

It's not like I'm sitting here singing the praises of Ghost Rider. It was a good popcorn movie, that's all.

Let's be honest, it's a pretty stupid character to begin with. How good a movie were you expecting?

The Doc
March 20th, 2008, 1:24 AM
atleast as good as Spawn had been nearly a decade earlier?

House of Pancakes
March 20th, 2008, 1:45 AM
Wow! Spawn is SO BAD.

Ace Rockola
March 20th, 2008, 2:01 AM
So, that Lewis Black show after South Park is pretty much unwatchable, huh?

Thirteen
March 20th, 2008, 5:57 AM
So, that Lewis Black show after South Park is pretty much unwatchable, huh?

It's not as good as I was hoping it would be. Seeing as how I'm a big fan of Lewis Black's stand-up, I was expecting more of the same, and while there are some parts that are similar to Black's famous rants, it's just not the same.

Cactus Lem
March 20th, 2008, 7:32 AM
My problems with Spider-Man 3 comes from going in with really high expecations (which I'd had since seeing Spider-Man 2). I remember when my theater wasn't getting it and a handfull of our employees got to watch a press screening the week before it opened. I didn't get to make it, but asked them all for opinions and most were let down and I kept telling myself that they aren't true fans, they must not get some of it, etc. Then I watch another press copy about 2 days prior to it's opening and while I was enjoying it, I wasn't getting that Spider-Man 2 feeling. I haven't seen it since rewatching it a week after, but from what I can recall the shit stuff was how horrible Kristen Dunst is (and how poorly written that character is over all, we were supposed to feel bad for her at some points, right?). Not to mention so much shit was going on. I'm far from a Venom nuthugger, but that whole thing was so screwed up it really hurts the film. That should be an epic build through a full film, not have him come to be in the second to last reel of the movie.

And I love the dance scene. It's probably my favorite part of the movie. And not in a "wrestlecrap" type way.

Bottom line though, I liked the movie. It just wasn't the jaw dropping edge of your seat experience it could have been. And while neither was Disturbia, it was a decent little PG-13 thriller. Which is more than expected.


I'm not sure if you're a comic book fan, but I am, and a pretty big fan of Spider-Man as well, as well as loving the two previous movies. I went into the movie with high expectations, and came out feeling like crap, much the same way I did with X-Men 3 the previous year.

Spider-Man 3 was rushed, the story was actually pretty crap, and there was just so much stuff just thrown in there, with very little pay-off. Venom, who is virtually Spider-Man's Joker, was cool, for the 9 minutes he was in the movie, but it's basicaly like what would happen in The Dark Knight if The Joker is a secondary villain that is only shown the last 10 minutes of the movie.

The dance scene was the point where I actually saw people walk out of the theater yelling at the screen talking about how shitty it was, which I almost joined them.

I actually liked all the actors in it, and don't feel the need to bash Toby or Kirsten, and I thought Thomas Church and Topher Grace did a good job in what they had for them, where as I actually believed Eddie Brock pre-Venom was actually one of the best characters in the movie, however, while I like Bryce Howard, I thought Gwen Stacy was a throwaway character that served no real purpose.

So those are the many reasons why I didn't like Spider-Man 3 and found it to be one of, if not, the worst movie I saw in 2007.

Yeah I can pretty much agree with all of that. To be fair, I'm a very casual comic book fan, I've only really seriously read the aclaimed Batman books (Year One, Long Halloween, Dark Knight Returns) and it's only been recently that I've gotten more into them (I bought Watchmen and an X-Men book I fancied the other day). So I don't have a lot of experience of the Spiderman comic book series, I used to pick up the odd cheap back issue back during when the cartoon that aired on Fox Kids was still showing (loved that cartoon), but with you guys seeming like real fans, I can definetly see and apreciate your points of view on the film.

I will say, I watched it with a few friends when it came out on DVD, and while talking during the film and stuff, it can seem more enjoyable I spose. Venom being thrown in there like that did kinda confuse me though, especially since I remember him being a very key character in the cartoon, and I'd always read a fuck load about Spiderman's black outfit.

Ringo
March 20th, 2008, 7:34 AM
Saw Michael Clayton. Liked it.

Cactus Lem
March 20th, 2008, 7:46 AM
Saw Michael Clayton. Liked it.

I was checking the listings on my flight to Orlando, if I get a newer plane with the ON Demand service, Michael Clayton is showing. Will most definetly be watching it.

If I don't get On Demand, I'm stuck with two films for the entire flight :mad: Dan in Real Life, and Martian Child. Both look enjoyable enough, but well, it was nothing on the selection of awesome films I had last year when I flew to the States.

Chris
March 20th, 2008, 8:39 AM
Spiderman 3 was very irritating to watch. I certainly liked bits of it, but I thought it was deeply flawed.

Peter and Harry's buddy-buddy relationship really comes out of nowhere. If this had been the first Spiderman film, then you could buy this kind of history. But I thought it was really laid on thick here, given their problems in the other films. The team-up between Sandman and Venom felt completely tacked on - "You want the spider, I want the spider, let's team up". Spidey losing his mask reached ridiculous levels at the end of the film. Then there's the stuff that just didn't make sense at all - the butler somehow knowing what happened with Norman in the first film, Sandman being completely unfazed and walking away from a screaming monster in a dark alley, Brock knowing about Sandman's daughter, etc.

Plus, I would have really liked to have seen Gwen Stacy as the damsel in distress at the end, since Mary Jane had become so unlikable that I wouldn't have minded seeing her killed off. If there's to be a Spiderman 4, I really think there needs to be a fresh perspective - new director, new actors, the works.

I steal cable
March 20th, 2008, 8:59 AM
Haha. I just watched "Plan 9 From Outerspace" a few weeks back.

You seen Ed Wood?

bloody brilliant film

PurePlayer
March 20th, 2008, 9:03 AM
I was checking the listings on my flight to Orlando, if I get a newer plane with the ON Demand service, Michael Clayton is showing. Will most definetly be watching it.

If I don't get On Demand, I'm stuck with two films for the entire flight :mad: Dan in Real Life, and Martian Child. Both look enjoyable enough, but well, it was nothing on the selection of awesome films I had last year when I flew to the States.

For some reason, I can't watch a movie in a plane. I tried on numerous occasions, but I never seem to watch more than the first 10 minutes of it.

Jimmy Zero
March 20th, 2008, 9:45 AM
Maybe it's because they only show absolute garbage on airplanes.

Cactus Lem
March 20th, 2008, 9:54 AM
For some reason, I can't watch a movie in a plane. I tried on numerous occasions, but I never seem to watch more than the first 10 minutes of it.

I find that I hate flying so much that I just concentrate all my energy into movies for a whole flight and just don't think about anything else. It's the best time killer on a log haul journey.


Maybe it's because they only show absolute garbage on airplanes.

Dunno bout that. Last time I flew, which was about a year ago, on the way over I watched Babel, The Pursuit of Happiness and Blood Diamond. An amazing film in Babel, and two damn good movies to go with it.

On the way back I watched Little Children, which has to be one of 2006's most underrated films, and a couple of others that weren't so great.

PurePlayer
March 20th, 2008, 10:05 AM
Maybe it's because they only show absolute garbage on airplanes.

Not all the time.

foleybumps
March 20th, 2008, 11:21 AM
You seen Ed Wood?

bloody brilliant film

Have not.

I actually didn't know that Planet 9 was an Ed Wood film when I watched it. The info just mentioned it was widely regarded as "the worst movie ever."

Then later when I found out that it was a Ed Wood flick I figured the movie about him is worth a view, just haven't gotten around to it yet. I am curious if he thought his films were legitimately "good" or the more correct "so bad they're good." Plus I'm pretty sure Johnny Depp plays him, so it can't be too bad. Unless it is in anyway similar to "The Man Who Cried."

House of Pancakes
March 20th, 2008, 12:24 PM
If anyone is looking for one of the coolest noirs ever, watch The Third Man. Most of you have likely already seen or heard of it, but I'm just re-iterating how awesome it is.

Ace Rockola
March 21st, 2008, 12:04 AM
Went and saw Be Kind Rewind today after my friend and I hit up the Dark Knight Dent Mobile thing (which was a blast and got a crap load of cool little goodies). Man, talk about a shitty movie. I got in for free cause it was at my old theater and all my peeps aren't gonna charge me. But still. I feel bad that I wasted a favor from friends on this.

Mos Def is really good in this though. But other than that it was nearly impossible to stay awake through. I know it's been out for a few weeks, but gotta get the warning out there.

Think I'm staying out the theaters until the midnight showing of "A Hard Days Night" at the art house theater.

Jay
March 21st, 2008, 10:01 AM
I'm years behind everyone else, I know, but I watched History of Violence last night.

I liked it, but it wasn't until after it'd finished, when I really started to think about the film, that I truly liked it. Pretty much everyone played their role really well, especially Mortensen and Holmes. And while I understand Holmes' role in the film, I would've liked his story with the bully to have been touched upon more - especially the aftermath of Jack's attack on him.

I loved the music, I really liked the fact that it was slow paced and built up throughout, how subtle the film was in places, then completely over the top, in your face and violent in other places, and that there wasn't a single moment wasted at all throughout.

I'm not one for giving film reviews, but there you go. And rather than bumping a really old thread, I thought I'd stick it in here. I'll be watching a lot more films from now on, so I'll be sticking any other reviews and notes in here, as well.

I'm now off to watch The Prestige. After that, I've got Blood Diamond, The Black Book and OldBoy lined up for next week :yes:

Hulkamaniac
March 21st, 2008, 10:07 AM
For some reason, I can't watch a movie in a plane. I tried on numerous occasions, but I never seem to watch more than the first 10 minutes of it.


Maybe it's because they only show absolute garbage on airplanes.

Dont let Alf hear that stuff. He'll kill you both.

Tom B. Stone
March 21st, 2008, 2:04 PM
On the odd occasion, I catch bits of The Crystal Maze on Challenge. Where the hell did they get the idiots who appeared on that show? It was like they had never seen an episode of TCM before as they were so clueless; some games were repeated quite often so they should have recognised them if they did their research.

KorruptJustice
March 21st, 2008, 3:46 PM
If anyone is looking for one of the coolest noirs ever, watch The Third Man. Most of you have likely already seen or heard of it, but I'm just re-iterating how awesome it is.

I saw this for the first time last year, and I have to admit that I was fairly dissapointed in it. Maybe it's just because it was so hyped up to me, but I thought that it was only a slightly better than average film for the most part, although there were one or two things that I thought were really done well, such as the ferris wheel scene, and even though I was 95% sure of the twist before it happened, I still thought the way in which it was revealed was excellent.

In my opinion, the greatest film-noir movie ever is definitely The Maltese Falcon, followed closely by L.A. Confidential.

Zen
March 21st, 2008, 4:08 PM
On a Jack note, I watched The Shining the other day. I can't believe it took me so damn long to get round to watching it, because my god was it amazing. I thought it was gonna be good, but it completley exceeded by expectations in every way possible.

I'd honestly say it's the best Horror film I've ever seen, I often find the genre waaaay to generic and diluted(and I'm not talking just slasher movies), but this was something else. Amazing use of the hotel, and the use of wide shots in and around the hotel lobby, really made you feel the sense of emptiness and the haunting nature of the structure. I also loved the creepiness of the corridors, and the way in which every supernaural element was just made compleltey crazy, either by Jack's over the top acting and delivery of dialogue, or the facials that the little kid was able to convey.

I could go on and on, but I'm not writing a review, so I'll stop, but just a fucking awesome film, and I'm not sure if a horror film exists that can touch The Shining.


Too bad the chick in the film cannot act. But hey, maybe she didnt need to act to seem so thick.

PurePlayer
March 21st, 2008, 6:22 PM
Originally Posted by KorruptJustice
In my opinion, the greatest film-noir movie ever is definitely The Maltese Falcon, followed closely by L.A. Confidential.

God I have to see L.A. Confidential. I don't know what the hell I am waiting for.

Jimmy Zero
March 21st, 2008, 6:53 PM
You haven't seen that?

Jeez man, come on. I know some people have mixed feelings about it, but it's worth seeing at least once.

Personally, I think it's a great movie. Never read the book. I wouldn't say it's the second best film noir ever, though.

Jimmy Zero
March 21st, 2008, 7:02 PM
Who remembers Parker Lewis Can't Lose?

:lol: Wow.

PurePlayer
March 21st, 2008, 8:39 PM
You haven't seen that?

Jeez man, come on. I know some people have mixed feelings about it, but it's worth seeing at least once.

Personally, I think it's a great movie. Never read the book. I wouldn't say it's the second best film noir ever, though.

I have seen a lot of movies but that is one that I never got around to seeing, and that's pretty shocking because I love anything Spacey is involved in.

The movies that I intend on watching within the next month include; L.A. Confidential, The Sting, and A Clockwork Orange. I have seen No Country For Old Men, The Untouchables, and The Deer Hunter already this week.

Jimmy Zero
March 21st, 2008, 8:45 PM
I have seen a lot of movies but that is one that I never got around to seeing, and that's pretty shocking because I love anything Spacey is involved in.

The movies that I intend on watching within the next month include; L.A. Confidential, The Sting, and A Clockwork Orange. I have seen No Country For Old Men, The Untouchables, and The Deer Hunter already this week.

Even K-Pax?

No Country was awesome.

Zen
March 21st, 2008, 10:13 PM
I didnt much care for No country. Left me feeling flat.

Annette
March 21st, 2008, 10:36 PM
Just watched Chaos tonight - a movie from 2005 starring Jason Statham, Ryan Phillippe & Wesley Snipes... what a God awful movie. It's pretty sad when I'm predicting what's going to happen and I'm right every single time, and even pointing out where they fucked up in the movie. 2/10

Ricky
March 21st, 2008, 10:36 PM
Why do you cling to opinions that most people have given up?

Brian M.
March 22nd, 2008, 2:03 AM
I was checking the listings on my flight to Orlando, if I get a newer plane with the ON Demand service, Michael Clayton is showing. Will most definetly be watching it.

If I don't get On Demand, I'm stuck with two films for the entire flight :mad: Dan in Real Life, and Martian Child. Both look enjoyable enough, but well, it was nothing on the selection of awesome films I had last year when I flew to the States.

I've heard terrible things about Dan In Real Life. Terrible, terrible things. I really wish Steve Carrell would start starring in movies I actually want to see again. That would be cool. I'm beginning to see him solely as Michael Scott at this point.

Anyway, the movies they played on my way to and from NY on the bus were Wild Hogs and The Pursuit Of Happiness. Pursuit of Happiness was quite good. Will Smith has really come into his own it seems, as he was great in this and I Am Legend. Wild Hogs was better than I expected it to be, but only because I literally expected it to be the worst movie I have ever seen. In the end it just ended up being a borefest, but nothing offensively bad.


Went and saw Be Kind Rewind today after my friend and I hit up the Dark Knight Dent Mobile thing (which was a blast and got a crap load of cool little goodies). Man, talk about a shitty movie. I got in for free cause it was at my old theater and all my peeps aren't gonna charge me. But still. I feel bad that I wasted a favor from friends on this.


That's a shame. I don't like Jack Black all that much, but the concept for this seemed hysterical to me. I'll probably still check it out for myself, but I'll wait until it comes out on DVD and Netflix it.

Ace Rockola
March 22nd, 2008, 1:19 PM
Them making the movies is the only funny bit, but there aren't enough of them and only about two we see more than 15 seconds of. And they're handicapped by only using their studios library (at least I think that's what I read a while back). Thus when the boxing movie they film comes up is "When We Were Kings" you sit there and just wonder, "why the fuck aren't they doing Rocky?"

The Doc
March 22nd, 2008, 9:49 PM
I dunno I thought Be Kind Rewind was great, it just wasn't only a comedy. There was a real plot with real charachters. It was a bit of an art flick to be honest, the kind where film students think it's brilliant from beginning to end but the rest of us are screaming for more cowbell.

RockOverBoston
March 22nd, 2008, 10:02 PM
I think it's more than safe to say that the term "art flick" doesn't even somewhat apply to Be Kind Rewind, nor do film students in any way think it's brilliant from beginning to end.

In fact, I'd go so far as to guarantee both of those things.

Hulkamaniac
March 23rd, 2008, 7:00 AM
And I'll confirm.

Jay
March 23rd, 2008, 7:18 AM
Anyone heard of/seen The Orphanage? It won't be everyone's cup of tea, as it's a Spanish film and has subtitles...I actually heard a couple behind me mutter about it being in subtitles, before walking out about ten minutes later. It came out here on Friday and it's really good film, if a little strange.

It's basically about a couple who own this huge house that used to be an orphanage. They have an adopted son who they believe has imaginary friends...only they're not imaginary, as the kid sees them and plays with them all of the time. Anyway, the kid goes missing and the woman believes the kids who used to live in this orphanage have taken him as part of their game, after finding out more about the kids who used to live there and what happened to them. Her husband and everyone else thinks she's crazy, but she does everything she can to try and find her son by following clues and playing the game. I can't say much more, as I'm worried about giving anything away... all I've done is given you a basic outline to what is a very good film.

It's well acted, very well told story and it's built up at a good, slow pace.

Edit: Here's a trailer for it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=i3TuClW65s8&feature=related

I don't know if it's the best trailer available, I simply used the first result.

TapOut
March 23rd, 2008, 7:30 AM
Too bad the chick in the film cannot act. But hey, maybe she didnt need to act to seem so thick.

I thought her personality in the film was great. I'm not very familiar with Duvall (other than Suburban Commando... but I'll pretend that doesn't count). But her bubbly personality was perfect to contrast with Jack's alcoholic and probably somewhat abusive character.

Like when she's all cheerful and offers to make him some sandwiches, and he just gives her a "I'm two seconds away from choking you to death" stare? That's excellent. If the woman was Streisand or something, that look wouldn't have had the same effect.

Cactus Lem
March 23rd, 2008, 10:21 AM
I thought her personality in the film was great. I'm not very familiar with Duvall (other than Suburban Commando... but I'll pretend that doesn't count). But her bubbly personality was perfect to contrast with Jack's alcoholic and probably somewhat abusive character.

Like when she's all cheerful and offers to make him some sandwiches, and he just gives her a "I'm two seconds away from choking you to death" stare? That's excellent. If the woman was Streisand or something, that look wouldn't have had the same effect.

Yeah I'm with you. She did a good job of just seeming too nice, making her vulnerability and fragile nature mean much more later on in the movie.

Jimmy Zero
March 23rd, 2008, 10:42 AM
Shelley Duvall isn't a bad actress at all. She did a great job in the Shining. If she's good enough for Kubrik, she's damn sure good enough for me.

The only possible knock I could think of on her Shining performance is how theatrical and exaggerated she can be, but that's not her fault. Kubrik micro managed his films and got exactly what he wanted out of his actors.

Matthew
March 23rd, 2008, 10:59 AM
i didnt like the ending to spanglish.

Jimmy Zero
March 23rd, 2008, 11:04 AM
Did you actually like the rest of it?

Fro
March 23rd, 2008, 3:35 PM
Recently read Bringing Down the House, the book about MIT students who count cards in blackjack. Heard good things about it, and I'd say it lived up to the hype. I really enjoyed it, but the ending was very anticlimatic. I was a bit annoyed that you never find out who the traitor is, nor do you find anything out about the silver-haired man. All in all though, definitely a good read.

The movie, 21, doesn't look that great, but I do like the casting of Kevin Spacey as Micky Rosa.

Matthew
March 23rd, 2008, 4:38 PM
Did you actually like the rest of it?
I guess so.


plus that lady is attractive.

Jimmy Zero
March 23rd, 2008, 7:25 PM
You aren't kidding about that. Damn.

Bandidas was on HBO the other day. God, what a fucking awful movie. BUT, oh my god do Salma Hayek and Penelope Cruz look absolutely amazing. I honestly don't think I've ever seen Cruz looking hotter.

Worth watching, for free mind you, purely for the jiggle factor. That movie was made only to get those two fine ladies in some ho outfits from the wild west.

KorruptJustice
March 23rd, 2008, 10:45 PM
Just watched Monty Python's Life of Brian earlier today, and I have to say that I was a little dissapointed. A majority of my friends claimed that it was funnier than Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but I remember laughing pretty much nonstop through that one, while in Life of Brian, I think I chuckled maybe a half dozen times. The only scenes that really made me laugh were the stoning scenes, the "What have the Romans ever done for us?" scene, and the song at the end. Other than that, nothing.

Jimmy Zero
March 23rd, 2008, 11:51 PM
It sounds like your friends are dumb shits. Life of Brian isn't all that funny.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 23rd, 2008, 11:54 PM
Life of Brian is the worst of the three IMO. With Grail being at the top.

hithit
March 24th, 2008, 12:10 AM
Went out and bought Gone Baby Gone and absolutely loved it.
Great movie, can't recommend it enough for anyone that hasn't seen it.

The Doc
March 24th, 2008, 12:11 AM
For me Life of Brian was better but that's because I was the last one to watch Holy Grail and I was in a room full of people who'd seen it so it was an hour and a half of "Oh my god this part coming up is so funny!" Vs a movie that nobody had seen before.

Jimmy Zero
March 24th, 2008, 12:12 AM
Oh, that sucks. That'll ruin a movie viewing every time.

EdgeHead469
March 24th, 2008, 7:03 AM
Went out and bought Gone Baby Gone and absolutely loved it.
Great movie, can't recommend it enough for anyone that hasn't seen it.

IMO, Gone Baby Gone > No Country for Old Men

Just watched No Country and I was not sure how I feel about it, I think I may go back and watch it again to really listen and take in all of the dialoque. Great movie, but left me kinda dry.

The_Mike
March 24th, 2008, 7:08 AM
Oh, that sucks. That'll ruin a movie viewing every time.

Drives me nuts. They spent the entire lead-up to watching the film telling me all the good bits, then during the film they're constantly going "oh this bit is coming up, it's so good!" and then 0.3 seconds after it just happened, THEY BLOODY QUOTE IT!

Ricky
March 24th, 2008, 1:56 PM
IMO, Gone Baby Gone > No Country for Old Men

Just watched No Country and I was not sure how I feel about it, I think I may go back and watch it again to really listen and take in all of the dialoque. Great movie, but left me kinda dry.

Go watch it again. I felt the same way after the first watch, but completely different after the second.

hithit
March 25th, 2008, 5:50 PM
I really need to watch NCFOM one more time myself.
I enjoyed it alot, but the ending really was odd, not sure if that was due to me having some beers or what, but it definitely needs another watching.

Jimmy Zero
March 25th, 2008, 6:39 PM
The ending pretty much just reinforces the title of the movie. Anton, the Dealers, and, to some extent Lou Ellen(I don't know the proper hillbilly spelling of that), were of a new era of crime. Tommy Lee Jones' character was a lawman from a bygone era and, really if you watch him in this context, is totally out of his league through out the movie.

RockOverBoston
March 25th, 2008, 7:08 PM
Bingo.

Ace Rockola
March 25th, 2008, 7:15 PM
And the ROB/Ace bit gets more creepy as I repped Jimmy's post saying, "and Bingo was his name-o" about 10 minutes ago.

PurePlayer
March 25th, 2008, 7:58 PM
Just bought the movie from best buy and liked it even better the second time around. Great film.

TapOut
March 25th, 2008, 8:14 PM
Prison Break was renewed for a full season. I thought it was a given for the most part, but just in case anyone was curious.

hithit
March 25th, 2008, 8:43 PM
I completely forgot that they are making a live action GI Joe movie.
I hope it's good, i used to love that cartoon when i was a kid.

EdgeHead469
March 26th, 2008, 7:03 AM
I just watched The Mist for the first time and I have to say, the ending of that movie pissed me off more, I think, than any other movie I have ever seen. I was so mad at the end at what happened. The movie was good with great characters and a story but if you have seen the movie you know what I mean, if you have not then I don't want to spoil it but, wow!

Jimmy Zero
March 26th, 2008, 8:56 AM
Yeah, it was absolutely a bull shit ending. I did enjoy the movie up until they decided it was time to venture out of the store. The ending was a total cop out and was obviously trying way to hard to be all like, "Oh wow!" Very lame.

The Doc
March 26th, 2008, 12:32 PM
I thought the ending was one of the greatest swerves ever. Though to be fair I could have delt with it ending with that big thing walking by as I think the story did. But it's been years.

PurePlayer
March 26th, 2008, 12:53 PM
I am assuming you guys recommend this movie because I am considering giving it a watch in the near future.

Vice
March 26th, 2008, 1:06 PM
Since PurePlayer is going to give it a watch soon, I'll be nice and tag my thoughts on The Mist's ending:

Personally I thought it was fucking amazing. Maybe it was because I was too afraid of the movie having a happy ending or just having an ambiguous ending like in the book (where they just drive off into the distance).

The ending was just so fucked up and so cruel that I couldn't help but smile. Fucked up, I know, but I think it was the best ending it could have had. To me it didn't seem like a "oh wow!" ending in the least. The music, the stunned look on Thomas Jane's face, the woman from earlier in the grocery store now with her kids, Thomas' realization of what the fuck is going on and then absolutely breaking down as the soldiers curiously look on, as the camera pans out to show that he was THAT close to rescue.

So depressingly amazing.

RockOverBoston
March 26th, 2008, 1:06 PM
I thought the ending was one of the greatest swerves ever.

That being said, you also claimed that "Be Kind Rewind" was an "art flick" that would be "debated by film students", and that "Life of Brian" Was better than "Holy Grail", so there's that...

Guy
March 26th, 2008, 1:37 PM
That being said, you also claimed that "Be Kind Rewind" was an "art flick" that would be "debated by film students", and that "Life of Brian" Was better than "Holy Grail", so there's that...

Be Kind Rewind is a Michael Gondry flick, who is quite well known as an artful director. Eternal Sunshine being a shining example of this. Be Kind Rewind has an art director behind it and an indie spirit, so he's not entirely off the mark. Plus film students and film fans the world over seem to be imitating it's "make hollywood movies with no budget" thingy for fun as well, just look at youtube.

And Life of Brian/Holy Grail are at least equal. It's completely arguable which is better, but if we go according to rottentomatoes....he's right. what with Life of Brian at 98%, and Holy Grail at 94%

RockOverBoston
March 26th, 2008, 1:46 PM
You've gotta read the posts I'm referencing in proper context to understand the points he's actually tried to make, Sir Blood of Plasmia.

Vice
March 26th, 2008, 2:01 PM
And Life of Brian/Holy Grail are at least equal. It's completely arguable which is better, but if we go according to rottentomatoes....he's right. what with Life of Brian at 98%, and Holy Grail at 94%


IMDB

Holy Grail: 8.5/10 (112,816 votes)
Brian: 8.2/10 (64,259 votes)

Woop woop.

Jimmy Zero
March 26th, 2008, 6:02 PM
Seriously how was anyone surprised by that "swerve" of an ending in Mist? It was so fucking lame! The second they all decided to do that, I knew exactly what was going to happen. Such a crappy wannabe Twilight Zone ending.

PurePlayer
March 26th, 2008, 6:12 PM
And Life of Brian/Holy Grail are at least equal. It's completely arguable which is better, but if we go according to rottentomatoes....he's right. what with Life of Brian at 98%, and Holy Grail at 94%

You also have to look at the number of reviews.

EdgeHead469
March 26th, 2008, 7:24 PM
Seriously how was anyone surprised by that "swerve" of an ending in Mist? It was so fucking lame! The second they all decided to do that, I knew exactly what was going to happen. Such a crappy wannabe Twilight Zone ending.

I was for sure suprised by it which I loved, but, with that said I was also disappointed. I guess because you just get close to those characters and you want there to be a purpose then the man just loses everything but can not free himself. I was just disappointed but thrilled at the same time. Weird feelings!

The Doc
March 26th, 2008, 7:52 PM
That being said, you also claimed that "Be Kind Rewind" was an "art flick" that would be "debated by film students", and that "Life of Brian" Was better than "Holy Grail", so there's that...

I dunno the film students that I know loved it to death.

As for Life of Brian vs Holy Grail I qualified that. It was circumstancial. In a room with five guys spoilering every fucking scene before you scene it you could easily think that Spidey 3>Spidey 2. You'd be wrong but given the circumstances it would be an acceptable mistake.

Sane
March 27th, 2008, 4:15 AM
So just finished watching The Mist myself, and I have to say I enjoyed myself throughout the entire length of the film. Thought it was well made, with a nice tempo to it, and some good special effects. Very good job directing on Mr. Darabont's part as well. The concept of the film itself is something that I haven't seen in a long time, and this is a nice twist on that concept. All those aspects gelled together perfectly for a well made flick with a number of memorable scenes throughout the movie imo.
The whole first tentacle sighting/Norms death, Mr. Biker Dude walking out in the mist with Brent's people, and the military guy being sacrificed just to name a few.

Also feel the ending was done real well, and loved the swerve at the end. As I was expecting it to end all ambiguous as in the book. So that was a nice little add on there at the end. Don't see what the hates all about really.

Would love to see some more Stephen King novels reimagined for the big screen with Frank Darabont as director. He has always been a big fan of Stephens and always does top notch work when working on something of King's.

SheltonLondon
March 27th, 2008, 7:15 PM
Just watched Vantage Point tonight, really enjoyed it for the most part, great concept, some pretty good acting and a pretty good plot.

However, about half way through when it goes a bit Die Hard-y I start losing a bit of interest, preferred it when it was a bit more subtle and clever.

Any thoughts?

Jay
March 28th, 2008, 1:18 PM
Again, I know I'm a little behind most people, but I watched Blood Diamond last night...and fucking hell, what an absolutely amazing film. I loved it. So much so that I watched the film again straight away with Ed Zwick narrating. I now love it even more, after hearing about all of the subtle references, how it was shot and learning more about what they wanted to portray with the film.

Jimmy Zero
March 28th, 2008, 6:32 PM
For Mik:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36181

Children of Men the Series being developed by the guys who did the Battlestar remake.

Ricky
March 28th, 2008, 6:57 PM
I like the idea of it. Hopefully, they'll expand on it without cheesing it up.

Think I'll go for some American History X tonight. Still haven't watched it, but Norton is immense.

I steal cable
March 28th, 2008, 7:01 PM
American History X sucks

too much up it's own arse

Jimmy Zero
March 28th, 2008, 9:19 PM
Yeah, I didn't want to be the first one to say it.

Really quite overrated. There are some alright performances, but on the whole it is WAY pretentious.

Morrison
March 28th, 2008, 9:24 PM
I like the idea of it. Hopefully, they'll expand on it without cheesing it up.

Think I'll go for some American History X tonight. Still haven't watched it, but Norton is immense.

Would you stop using the word 'immense' to describe everything you think is awesome.

Ricky
March 28th, 2008, 10:15 PM
Really liked it. Brilliant, to be honest.

By the way, shut the fuck up, Morri.

Morrison
March 28th, 2008, 10:25 PM
This isn't the Asylum, kid. Watch your mouth.

Ricky
March 28th, 2008, 10:51 PM
Okee dokee then.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 28th, 2008, 11:00 PM
For Mik:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36181

Children of Men the Series being developed by the guys who did the Battlestar remake.

Only Eick, half the reason BSG is so good is because of Moore & Michael Rymer who is basically the driving force & style and Rymer is in charge of the entire look of the series. To put it basically.

House of Pancakes
March 28th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Man, I'm obsessed with Ingmar Bergman movies!

The_Mike
March 29th, 2008, 3:58 AM
Just watched Vantage Point tonight, really enjoyed it for the most part, great concept, some pretty good acting and a pretty good plot.

However, about half way through when it goes a bit Die Hard-y I start losing a bit of interest, preferred it when it was a bit more subtle and clever.

Any thoughts?

This is pretty much what I thought. The action movie bit was pretty good, the build at the beginning was pretty good, but overall it seemed like it didn't quite add up to the sum of its parts. Still a good film though.

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 11:09 AM
For Mik:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36181

Children of Men the Series being developed by the guys who did the Battlestar remake.

Aye, so I'd read. Not sure that I'll bother watching it without Owen or Cuaron involved.

Went and bought 11 new DVDs today. I'll be pushing towards 400 soon if I'm not careful. All of them are top quality too.

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 11:30 AM
I've basically stopped buying dvd's now.

What with sky +ing and downloading movies I just can't be bothered to purchase them. Prolly a good thing seeing that I don't really have anymore room to store them away. I also got fed up of my siblings lending my dvd's out without asking me and never getting them back.

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Dont download movies. I have an external hard drive full of TV shows, but I wont ever be downloading films.

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 11:55 AM
If I love the film I'll buy it, Stranger Than Fiction being the last film I brought on dvd after downloading it. My dvd collection has it's fair share of mediocre films, I just don't want to add to that part.

Whats the difference between d/l TV shows and films?

Vice
March 29th, 2008, 12:06 PM
I admit to downloading plenty of movies. I don't really ever go to the theater to see them, and I don't have enough money to shell out $20 for a movie I haven't seen because I think it looks good, or if I've heard good things about it. So, I'd probably just never see them. Or I'd wait until they were shown on HBO.. so downloading would really only let me watch them faster.

If I like a movie a lot, I'll happily go out and buy it when I get the chance. If I didn't download, I probably wouldn't have 50% of my DVD collection and certainly wouldn't have 75% of my Blu-Ray collection.

RockOverBoston
March 29th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Whats the difference between d/l TV shows and films?

You're taking more money out of more people's pockets by downloading TV shows, and it's probably less "necessary".

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 12:37 PM
If I love the film I'll buy it, Stranger Than Fiction being the last film I brought on dvd after downloading it. My dvd collection has it's fair share of mediocre films, I just don't want to add to that part.

Whats the difference between d/l TV shows and films?

Two-fold really. Necessity and experience. I have to show a lot of films at school and am not legally allowed to show copied DVDs. Plus, I like the whole package when it comes to films, I love the DVD extras. Experience-wise, television is supposed to be watched on the small-screen, its made for the television. Downloading films means that you're doing yourself out of the cinematic film experience, which is pretty much the best thing about them.

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 12:51 PM
That's not entirely true. The cinematic experience, whilst good, isn't just about the only good thing. And also it's not true that you cannot have a cinematic experience after a download.

I downloaded 3:10 to Yuma as I wanted to see it and being a poor poor student, can't afford to fork over 13, especially for a film I hadn't seen.

After downloading I turned off the lights, whacked the laptop where my TV is, connected up my surround sound and got just as good an experience out of it as I would a DVD.

I usually only do this for older movies that I won't see any other way (Copland being the last movie I downloaded, oh and Tango and Cash haha), as most newer films I can borrow from someone at some point. If I like I film, I will buy it after the download. Like Vice says, at least 25% of my collection comes from download, it's like a free video rental.

Personally I hate people that copy DVD's instead of buying them though. I don't see that and what I do as the same thing. Especially considering I will watch my download, then delete it afterwards, therefore having to purchase it if i want it again.

TV series I download if they're
A) Old and not on DVD
B) I can't watch any other way.

eg. I don't have channels at Uni that play the Terminator series. And I'dve had no idea what The Tick was had I not seen it online, which led me to buy the DVD's once they were released.

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 1:02 PM
I'm saying that downloading films does not create the same experience as going to a cinema, not as buying DVDs. I buy DVDs because I like the collection, I need them for work and because I like the extras.

RockOverBoston
March 29th, 2008, 1:07 PM
TV series I download if they're
A) Old and not on DVD
B) I can't watch any other way.

Yeah, that's perfectly logical.

With "On Demand" services getting bigger and better by the day, and with even some of your more questionable titles getting DVD releases these days (the 8th season of "Family Matters"? Seriously?) it could be argued that there'll soon be little to no reason to have to download TV shows.

Vice
March 29th, 2008, 1:11 PM
I personally much prefer watching downloaded films. I can lean back in my chair, eat actual food and smoke cigarettes while wrapped up in a blanket. I don't even have to wear pants. It's also free. All while not having to leave the house. I have a 20" widescreen monitor and some pretty good speakers, so I'm fine watching on my computer. If it's a really really good movie, I'll burn it to a DVD and watch it on the 57" TV with surround sound.

Plus at home, there aren't idiots clapping and yelling at the screen. And since I'm not in public, I do not fear emotional movies making me shed a manly tear or three.

Personal preference of mine, really, 'cause I'm an antisocial hermit. But I do understand where you're coming from, Mik. :yes:

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 1:11 PM
Two-fold really. Necessity and experience. I have to show a lot of films at school and am not legally allowed to show copied DVDs. Plus, I like the whole package when it comes to films, I love the DVD extras. Experience-wise, television is supposed to be watched on the small-screen, its made for the television. Downloading films means that you're doing yourself out of the cinematic film experience, which is pretty much the best thing about them.

I'm a funny one when it comes to DVD extras, I have to have the special edition version of the film (Steel Case Packaging :heart:) , but I usually never get round to watching the additions.

When I was living with my gran and paying just 30 a week for rent and bills I went to the cinema everyday watching anything and everything. I can't really afford to go nowadays (apart from wednesdays). It costs around 8 per fecking ticket. Also I'm one of those annoying types who likes to make shitty sarcastic comments whilst watching films (no matter how good they are), so getting to do that in the comfort of my own home with no-one else around is a plus.

Anywayz cause I was bored, here's a pic of most my dvd collection

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/I_steal_cable/dvds.jpg

Hero!
March 29th, 2008, 1:15 PM
Since I hate any type of noise while I'm watching a movie, I prefer downloads to the cinema any day. I can't tell you how many movies have been ruined by people talking, shouting, or having their stupid cell phones go off.

And I download shows if I've heard good things about them and want to give them a watch. I did this with The Office and it's one of my favorite shows now. Once I have more money I'll go buy the DVDs.

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 1:27 PM
I'm saying that downloading films does not create the same experience as going to a cinema, not as buying DVDs. I buy DVDs because I like the collection, I need them for work and because I like the extras.

So in which case downloading films is doing yourself out of the cinematic experience only if the film you're downloading is at the cinema at the time.

In which case yea that's true in a sense. I thought you meant the whole cinematic experience, what with the whole "home cinema" thing now.

Ususally a download of a film at the cinema is pants quality anyways, or it's a screener with writing all over it. That's why I only bother with films that are out on DVD. Films I want to see at the cinema I shell out for, as it's not usually a regular thing and I love cinemas.

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 1:31 PM
I personally much prefer watching downloaded films. I can lean back in my chair, eat actual food and smoke cigarettes while wrapped up in a blanket. I don't even have to wear pants. It's also free. All while not having to leave the house. I have a 20" widescreen monitor and some pretty good speakers, so I'm fine watching on my computer. If it's a really really good movie, I'll burn it to a DVD and watch it on the 57" TV with surround sound.

Plus at home, there aren't idiots clapping and yelling at the screen. And since I'm not in public, I do not fear emotional movies making me shed a manly tear or three.

Personal preference of mine, really, 'cause I'm an antisocial hermit. But I do understand where you're coming from, Mik. :yes:

A tight-fisted anti-social hermit :p

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 1:32 PM
Yeah, that's perfectly logical.

With "On Demand" services getting bigger and better by the day, and with even some of your more questionable titles getting DVD releases these days (the 8th season of "Family Matters"? Seriously?) it could be argued that there'll soon be little to no reason to have to download TV shows.

You say that, but then I'll probably do it the same way that I do for movies that are on DVD that I want to see but can't afford to buy if I do know for sure that it's not good.

Download, watch, then buy if it's worth it.

Currently I'm doing this with Saxondale

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 1:37 PM
Plus at home, there aren't idiots clapping and yelling at the screen. And since I'm not in public, I do not fear emotional movies making me shed a manly tear or three.


Also I'm one of those annoying types who likes to make shitty sarcastic comments whilst watching films (no matter how good they are), so getting to do that in the comfort of my own home with no-one else around is a plus.

Anywayz cause I was bored, here's a pic of most my dvd collection

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/I_steal_cable/dvds.jpg


Since I hate any type of noise while I'm watching a movie, I prefer downloads to the cinema any day. I can't tell you how many movies have been ruined by people talking, shouting, or having their stupid cell phones go off.


Lets be honest guys. Can we just have you admit that the reason you download films is because you're fucking cheap. If I want to watch a film and cant afford the DVD, I just do without.

Nice collection though Mary. I'd take a picture of mine, but I currently have at least 8 loaned out to a stupid fucking ex and about 10 at school.

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 1:48 PM
I'm a funny one when it comes to DVD extras, I have to have the special edition version of the film (Steel Case Packaging :heart:) , but I usually never get round to watching the additions.

When I was living with my gran and paying just 30 a week for rent and bills I went to the cinema everyday watching anything and everything. I can't really afford to go nowadays (apart from wednesdays). It costs around 8 per fecking ticket. Also I'm one of those annoying types who likes to make shitty sarcastic comments whilst watching films (no matter how good they are), so getting to do that in the comfort of my own home with no-one else around is a plus.

Anywayz cause I was bored, here's a pic of most my dvd collection

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/I_steal_cable/dvds.jpg

http://bloodwxw.dvdaf.com/owned

Mine

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 1:50 PM
Lets be honest guys. Can we just have you admit that the reason you download films is because you're fucking cheap. If I want to watch a film and cant afford the DVD, I just do without.

Nice collection though Mary. I'd take a picture of mine, but I currently have at least 8 loaned out to a stupid fucking ex and about 10 at school.

Can you actually live without a film that you wanna watch? Maybe I'm weak but if I really want see a film, then I'd do anything to watch it.

My fav part of my collection is the top shelf. Along with my Sherlock Holmes, classic Monster films and the X-files collections is my Kill Bill dvd in it's little coat. I got the coat with the Kill Bill 2 special edition which I brought from Japan.

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 1:52 PM
http://miksterious.dvdaf.com/owned

Mine.

Its pretty much fucking exceptional.

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 1:56 PM
neither of you own Troll 2

also Mik, please don't tell me you actually liked Tsotsi

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 2:01 PM
I havent seen it. Literally only bought it about 3 hours ago.

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 2:15 PM
It's one of the few films I couldn't watch all the way through. Something about the first 30 mins just wanted me to punch my tv screen in and use the broken pieces of glass to slit my wrists. Maybe I was comparing it to much to the City of God. Mah, one day I'll actually finish the film and realise it weren't that bad, but till then...

what other films did you just buy?

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 3:19 PM
The Good Shepherd
The Host
28 Days Later
Blood Diamond
Grizzly Man
Hard Boiled
Harsh Times
The Life Aquatic
Jarhead
Inside Man

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 3:28 PM
I just watched The Host for the first time last week. Talk about refreshing, so much different to anything I'd ever seen before.

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 4:57 PM
There's nothing wrong with Tsosti?!

It's not the best film ever, but it's decent enough in its own right.

Now on to Mik's collection:

I see, like me you, dipped in to Schumacer/Batman films and possibly have no idea why.

You own Blade II twice? And once from Denmark? Actually looking at it, why so many US releases of films that had the same treatment on both sides of the ocean? Or is it just you matching the box art and not giving a shit about the region you clicked?

Harry Potter?

Once upon a time in Mexico, but not the other two in the collection?

I'll admit, the collection looks very, well it's the collection of a man that likes his classics and future classics. But I see very little in the way of guilty pleasures Mikster.

I believe you can tell a person just by their DVD collection

Jimmy Zero
March 29th, 2008, 5:07 PM
No guilty pleasures? He's got Batman Forever AND Batman and Robin! Pssh, no guilty pleasures.

Also, fucking Zulu! Nice.

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 5:15 PM
Besides those mentioned

Jimmy Zero
March 29th, 2008, 5:16 PM
Oh shit. LOL sorry.

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 5:23 PM
I believe you can tell a person just by their DVD collection

You own the Passion of the Christ and Batman & Robin.... but I have The Beautician and the Beast so I can't really talk.

You do have Hard Boiled in your collection though... add A Better Tomorrow and A Bittersweet Life and you'll be set.

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 5:27 PM
I'm looking for the best possible versions of the first two Better Tomorrows actually. But every version I see seems to have better/worse things on it than others and I'm torn like a pornstars anus.

Also wanting to watch The Killer at some point.

Passion of the Christ is a touchy one, I saw it at the cinema and liked it as a spiritual guilt trip as mentioned on South Park. But since owning it on DVD I havn't actually watched it once, and it's been there at least 3 years now.

I just don't have the stomach anymore.

I steal cable
March 29th, 2008, 5:36 PM
I'm looking for the best possible versions of the first two Better Tomorrows actually. But every version I see seems to have better/worse things on it than others and I'm torn like a pornstars anus.

Also wanting to watch The Killer at some point.


next you'll be telling me that you haven't seen Battle Royale yet

Guy
March 29th, 2008, 5:40 PM
No no, I've seen that.

I want the tin, just wanted to make sure the second wasn't worth a purchase before making any commitments.....it wasn't.

Oh and I have seen the first two Better Tomorrows...just to clear that up. It's buying them I'm struggling with.

Beer-Belly
March 29th, 2008, 7:45 PM
Hayden Christensen is rumored to play Superman in the likely doomed Justice League movie. Ugh. Fucks sake, I'd actually prefer Brandon Routh over that boring sack of shit. Not to mention that he doesn't look like Superman at all. He's just a skinny twat that sucks the life out of any movie he's in.

Also, the official title of the film is Justice League Mortal. Awful.

Jimmy Zero
March 29th, 2008, 7:47 PM
Justice League Mortal? Wow.

*Cue Zarius to come tell us why that's actually such an amazing title and we're just too stupid to get it.

Also, Hayden Christensen still gets jobs? Didn't realize.

Morrison
March 29th, 2008, 7:51 PM
Isn't that movie supposed to be done in CGI? So he'd just be providing the voice.

Hulkamaniac
March 29th, 2008, 8:03 PM
I just watched The Host for the first time last week. Talk about refreshing, so much different to anything I'd ever seen before.

Havent seen it yet. I've been wanting it for ages though.



There's nothing wrong with Tsosti?!

It's not the best film ever, but it's decent enough in its own right.

Now on to Mik's collection:

I see, like me you, dipped in to Schumacer/Batman films and possibly have no idea why.

You own Blade II twice? And once from Denmark? Actually looking at it, why so many US releases of films that had the same treatment on both sides of the ocean? Or is it just you matching the box art and not giving a shit about the region you clicked?

Harry Potter?

Once upon a time in Mexico, but not the other two in the collection?

I'll admit, the collection looks very, well it's the collection of a man that likes his classics and future classics. But I see very little in the way of guilty pleasures Mikster.

I believe you can tell a person just by their DVD collection

I wanted the first and second Batman films, but found that it was cheaper to buy them in a box-set that included the next two. So figured that I might as well buy it.

Dont know what the crack is with Blade, I generally just match up the art-work on the box, not bothered about getting the exact correct region in, I only have them on there as an insurance policy in case they all get nicked some day and also as a way of allowing my students to pick what film they want to watch as a treat.

Got Once Upon A Time in Mexico because an ex-girlfriend wanted to watch it. I tend to buy instead of renting.

I dont have many guilty pleasures and if I did, I wouldnt let them lower the brilliance of my DVD collection.


Isn't that movie supposed to be done in CGI? So he'd just be providing the voice.

The voice is pretty much the worst part of him.

Beer-Belly
March 29th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Isn't that movie supposed to be done in CGI? So he'd just be providing the voice.

No. It's live action. The CGI thing was a rumor. Although, I wish they went in that direction. Maybe then they could round up a cast that isn't comprised of dog shit C-list celebrities. The douche from the OC as the Flash and a no name as Batman? Eat a bowl of severed dicks.

Beer-Belly
March 29th, 2008, 10:35 PM
The end of Gone Baby Gone is infuriating.

I understand it's supposed to be a point of contention, and it probably should be, but I would have no regard for the law in that situation.

The Masked Jobber
March 30th, 2008, 4:27 AM
Hayden Christensen is rumored to play Superman in the likely doomed Justice League movie. Ugh. Fucks sake, I'd actually prefer Brandon Routh over that boring sack of shit. Not to mention that he doesn't look like Superman at all. He's just a skinny twat that sucks the life out of any movie he's in.

Also, the official title of the film is Justice League Mortal. Awful.

I hope the Superman franchise caves in on itself soon. Outside of Smallville anything Superman is extremely boring.

All DC needs is Batman.

Guy
March 30th, 2008, 5:48 AM
No. It's live action. The CGI thing was a rumor. Although, I wish they went in that direction. Maybe then they could round up a cast that isn't comprised of dog shit C-list celebrities. The douche from the OC as the Flash and a no name as Batman? Eat a bowl of severed dicks.

Hey, no love for Adam Brody? Boooo...

I thought they took Bats and Supes out of this film and were just going with the other, lesser known heroes?

Guy
March 30th, 2008, 7:16 AM
I wanted the first and second Batman films, but found that it was cheaper to buy them in a box-set that included the next two. So figured that I might as well buy it.

Ah right, thought as much, though the box set is on DVDAF seperatly.

Dont know what the crack is with Blade, I generally just match up the art-work on the box, not bothered about getting the exact correct region in, I only have them on there as an insurance policy in case they all get nicked some day and also as a way of allowing my students to pick what film they want to watch as a treat.

That's fine as long as you don't be handing out R1's without warning :p

What's the age of your students BTW? Just out of curiosity. I remember my college media teacher lent me the companion book to Evil Dead AND the Back to the Future trilogy....he was awesome in that respect.

Got Once Upon A Time in Mexico because an ex-girlfriend wanted to watch it. I tend to buy instead of renting.

I dont have many guilty pleasures and if I did, I wouldnt let them lower the brilliance of my DVD collection.

So you buy instead of renting but don't want to lower your DVD collection? :p

Girlfriend just bought the Mail on Sunday and got Time Bandits for free :yes:.

Hulkamaniac
March 30th, 2008, 7:42 AM
The Batman boxset wasnt on DVDAF when I first put it in. I must've had an account on there for around 5 years by now.

I dont generally lend DVDs out to my students, in special circumstances I will, I have a lot of screenings at school. As I picked the DVD player for us to use at school, I know that it plays pretty much anything.

I tend to be quite picky in the DVDs that I buy.

I've already got Time Bandits.

Guy
March 30th, 2008, 9:14 AM
I've already got Time Bandits.


I know, that's why I mentioned the purchase.

And after just finishing up watching it, I must disagree with rottentomoatoes as I found it to be quite...shite

Hulkamaniac
March 30th, 2008, 9:24 AM
I honestly havent watched it in about 15 years.

Beer-Belly
March 31st, 2008, 4:15 AM
Last week a landmark decision was handed down in the long simmering legal battle between Warner Bros (and DC Comics) and the heirs of Jerry Siegel, one of the creators of Superman: Siegel's widow and daughter have finally become joint copyright holders with DC and friends (let's just call them Warner Bros from here on in).

Before getting to what this might mean for Superman in the movies, it's worth noting the main irony here: this decision was facilitated by big corporations like Warner Bros. Back in the 70s Congress fucked with copyright law in a pretty major way to help the big boys - like WB and Disney - hold on to their famous characters and keep them from public domain, where they rightfully should be by now. The Copyright Act of 1976 gave creators a shot at getting back rights, something that Judge Stephen G Larson, the guy handing down the Superman decision, says was to make up for the 'unequal bargaining position of authors, resulting in part from the impossibility of determining a work’s prior value until it has been exploited.'

The decision may mean that WB owes the Siegel's cuts from all Superman profits from 1999 on (excluding foreign profits). It also means that it's quite possible that in 2013 the entire Superman copyright will be out of Warner Bros' hands, as Joe Shuster's estate takes the other half.

The Siegels don't get the copyright to everything, just the elements as portrayed in Action Comics #1; Superman's powers and most of his friends and villains premiered after that, but the name, the costume and Clark Kent and Lois Lane are, pending a Warner Bros appeal, now co-owned.

So what does that all mean? There's certainly going to be an appeal by Warner Bros, so for the moment it means nothing. It's worth noting, though, that DC took Superboy out of commission when the Siegel's won their case over that copyright - could Final Crisis be Superman's swan song for the near future (almost certainly not, since the next weekly DC series is called Trinity and focuses on Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman). I imagine we'll see Superman comics being produced for the foreseeable future.

But what about on the movie side of things? Superman's had a dark cloud over his head at Warner Bros for some time now, as the latest movie took a decade (and lots of expense) to get going and then turned out to not be the kind of earner the studio wanted. There's a lot of talking about a sequel, but the studio has remained very cautious about it, and no real forward movement has happened over the last year. The truth is that Warner Bros is trying to figure out if the character of Superman is one who can be profitable, and if half the profits are going to have to go to the Siegels, all of a sudden the idea of spending a whole lot of money on his next film seems a lot less attractive.

Nobody knows what's going to happen, but if I had to guess I'd say that this further cools Warner Bros' interest in a Man of Steel movie. Even if they could get the film made and out before the final ruling on the case, if it all falls for the Siegels WB will still have to share the profits*. The same, by the way, would go for the Justice League movie. If the rumors about Superman being written out of the film are true, they're probably even truer after the ruling.

What I found most interesting about the whole ruling from a comic book movie point of view, though, is that Judge Larson has expressed concern about a 'sweetheart deal' between Time Warner subsidiary DC Comics and Warner Bros. Has Warner Bros licensed Superman for a rate that's below his worth? If this was followed up on, things could get really interesting - I've long held that the big problem for DC Comics is that all of their characters are stuck at one studio. If the folks at Warner Bros don't understand Character X, the character can't be shopped to other studios that might. And even if Warner Bros 'got' every character, they certainly don't want a slate of only DC Comics movies. Marvel's ability to shop their self-financed films to other studios for distribution is why they're getting down to the C-level characters.

*I'm not taking into account the evils of studio accounting, although the Siegels seem so litigious WB may be afraid to play accounting games with them.No more shitty Superman movies for the time being, I guess.

I've actually grown to like Superman over the past year or so. It's not the character's fault that few writers other than Grant Morrison can write a good Superman story.

This decision is probably a good thing. At least we are spared another shitty Bryan Singer movie where Supes is too busy crying to stop 9/11.

Hulkamaniac
March 31st, 2008, 6:14 PM
Got The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.

Hobbit
March 31st, 2008, 7:18 PM
Just watched Land of the Dead.

That's a few hours I'm not getting back.

Guy
March 31st, 2008, 11:13 PM
What's wrong with it exactly?

I mean it's not a classic piece of cinema, but it's not... Soul Plane

Ace Rockola
April 1st, 2008, 12:06 AM
Went and saw Run, Fat Boy, Run today. Really a great example of how good Simon Pegg really is. This movie is about as average and by the book as you get. When the evil new boyfriend snaps at the kid and lets the ex know they'll be moving out of the country you almost cringe cause you hope they won't go that obvious. But I don't regret the matinee price I dropped on this simply for Pegg. Got a great average man charm about him.

The twat half of the actress and the twat couple from Shaun of the Dead was great in a really tiny part too. As was Agador Spartacus despite being the by the books evil new guy.

Ringo
April 1st, 2008, 12:37 PM
Has anyone seen Rise Of The Footsoldier?

Easily the nastiest and most depressing film I've ever seen. Fucking horrible.

Fuck sake.

TapOut
April 1st, 2008, 11:00 PM
Did anyone catch the trailer for The Legend Of Zelda movie coming out? The sets/settings looked great, but the characters look SHIT. Gannon looks like a fucking high-school halloween costume. Probably an April Fool's joke, but I have no idea.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YvN7jZ34SAA

P.S. - Yeah, I'm a fucking idiot. I don't pay much attention to the video game news, so it looked good enough to be a movie.

Jimmy Zero
April 1st, 2008, 11:21 PM
There already is a Zelda movie.

It's called Legend and it's got smoov Tom Cruise. It's not technically the Zelda movie, but I seem to remember hearing that the game was based on that movie.

hithit
April 2nd, 2008, 12:58 AM
So i'm watching American History X for the first time in about 4 years.
Forgot how fucking brilliant this movie was, it really needs to be on a regular rotation on my movie watching list.

Organasm
April 2nd, 2008, 9:43 AM
Has anyone seen Rise Of The Footsoldier?

Easily the nastiest and most depressing film I've ever seen. Fucking horrible.

Fuck sake.I read that it's a typical British attempt at being an 'edgy' violent film that relies too much on swearing and posturing, and that everyone wants to Ray Liotta from Goodfellas. But I read that in Scotland, they might be jealous.

Hobbit
April 2nd, 2008, 9:46 AM
What's wrong with it exactly?

I mean it's not a classic piece of cinema, but it's not... Soul Plane

It's fucking awful maybe. And if you liked it then it just backs that up.

Jimmy Zero
April 2nd, 2008, 10:15 AM
So i'm watching American History X for the first time in about 4 years.
Forgot how fucking brilliant this movie was, it really needs to be on a regular rotation on my movie watching list.

Brilliant? Hardly.

That movie is a glossy after school special with swearing.

Organasm
April 2nd, 2008, 10:29 AM
Point Blank: Is there a better 'martial arts'-focused film out there than Once Upon A Time in China?
Not only were the fights some of the best I've ever seen, but the storyline is compelling-not just a reason to set up the fights, the characters themselves are interesting to the point where you root for them (PORKY~!) and all of it's captured amazingly on camera + Pretty colours.

Sequel was gash however.

PS. No Blood No Tears is the second worst movie I've ever seen. Jesus Christ it was inexcusable.

EdgeHead469
April 2nd, 2008, 11:13 AM
Brilliant? Hardly.

That movie is a glossy after school special with swearing.

I would say it is more of "In between brilliant and an after school special. The movie has great meaning behind and Ed Norton at his best. The ending is amazing and the acting is good. Not the biggest fan but it is a great watch!

I steal cable
April 2nd, 2008, 11:24 AM
the ending sucked

OH LOOK, I'M NOT RACIST ANYMORE!!!!!!1111

bloody shite

Cewsh
April 2nd, 2008, 11:27 AM
Point Blank: Is there a better 'martial arts'-focused film out there than Once Upon A Time in China?
Not only were the fights some of the best I've ever seen, but the storyline is compelling-not just a reason to set up the fights, the characters themselves are interesting to the point where you root for them (PORKY~!) and all of it's captured amazingly on camera + Pretty colours.

Sequel was gash however.

PS. No Blood No Tears is the second worst movie I've ever seen. Jesus Christ it was inexcusable.

Weren't there about 8 sequels?

Ricky
April 2nd, 2008, 11:36 AM
Watched 2001 last night. Another brilliant movie by Kubrick.

The_Mike
April 2nd, 2008, 11:46 AM
I hated 2001 myself. I'm normally the kind of person who loves artsy stuff and enjoys delving into the mysteries of what x and y means on screen and all that, but I just found it a dull mess. HAL was awesome though.

Alf
April 2nd, 2008, 12:02 PM
American History X is fantastic.

Bad Obsession
April 2nd, 2008, 12:06 PM
the ending sucked

OH LOOK, I'M NOT RACIST ANYMORE!!!!!!1111

bloody shite
It was a great story of redemption. :\

Hulkamaniac
April 2nd, 2008, 12:08 PM
Its between 'average' and 'very good'.

House of Pancakes
April 2nd, 2008, 1:11 PM
To join in on opinions of American History X, I think it's a solid movie with no rewatchability. It's nothing out of the ordinary, and wouldn't really be very good at all if it weren't for Edward Norton's acting performance and the "shock value" it had when I saw it in high school.

To add a new film for discussion, being a big Takashi Miike who has not seen nearly enough of his work, I watched Gozu the other day. The approach is in the same vein as Audition, in that it seems like an interesting mystery movie until the last half hour, where it just gets fucking ridiculous. Recommended!

I steal cable
April 2nd, 2008, 2:58 PM
It was a great story of redemption. :\

why must you make this the thread of lies?

I feel like my IQ drops 10 points everytime I watch that film.

Cewsh
April 2nd, 2008, 3:02 PM
The movie had a chance until they killed off the kid at the end for no goddamn reason at all.

Hulkamaniac
April 2nd, 2008, 3:04 PM
It had a reason, it just wasnt beneficial to the plot.

Cewsh
April 2nd, 2008, 3:10 PM
That's what I mean. It was essentially tacked on.

Organasm
April 2nd, 2008, 3:16 PM
Weren't there about 8 sequels?
Yeah, it goes to 6 at least, I gave up after II, fuck knows what went so wrong there. The lack of Porky, the rope as an offensive weapon and all that 'I'm KRAZY' shit Fei-Hung was doing in the final fight combined with the Don't-Touch-The-Floor nonsense, all just made me give up on watching the others. Plus, the ending's lifted straight from Fistful Of Dollars unlike the original where the guy was just hardcore.

I suppose the leader of the White Lotus being kicked in the groin repeatedly and no-selling it is hilarious, it's just a shame it happens in the first 2 minutes.

DVDVR's Best of the 90's list only has Fist Of Legend and Drunken Master II higher than it. Wasn't too fond of DM 1 (Eight stances was far too much to do once, let alone twice) and I'm not usually too hot on Jet-Li, except for OUATIChina obviously.

I think the end of AHX was to get people to go 'The little BLACK shit!!!' to see if they've learnt the lesson too, or something. One doesn't reflect on all of them, etc.

I steal cable
April 2nd, 2008, 3:18 PM
That's what I mean. It was essentially tacked on.

It was essentially shit like the the rest of the movie.

I'm sorry, it just pisses me off. It's like the one film which emo kids put down as their favs on myspace to show they're all deep and meaningful.

One day I will attempt to make some constructive criticism, but not today.

maxx powerz
April 2nd, 2008, 4:20 PM
No one's making a big deal about it, so I guess it wasn't in as much doubt as I thought, but thumbs way up for Season 3 of 30 Rock.

Ricky
April 2nd, 2008, 4:38 PM
:wiggle:

I hadn't heard, but that's great news.

RockOverBoston
April 2nd, 2008, 4:50 PM
American History X, properly summed up by 2 people in less than 20 words:


Its between 'average' and 'very good'.


the ending sucked

OH LOOK, I'M NOT RACIST ANYMORE!!!!!!1111

bloody shite

Seriously, not much more actually needs to be said. It's more than worth watching, and it certainly has its moments, but like Brent said, I'm not entirely sure it's anything one really needs to see more than once.

But one will, because cable networks (FX in particular) seem to go through phases where they show it all the fucking time...

Ace Rockola
April 2nd, 2008, 4:59 PM
So I've found myself DVR'ing really bad movies just to sit and have a fun laugh at over the last couple nights. FX had Mortal Kombat 2 which I've yet to watch, but I did give Batman and Robin about half a viewing last night. Last time I saw this in full I was probably 11 or 12. Thus I was probably the perfect audience for some of the shit they were doing, but Jesus. I had no idea it was that bad. Arnold must hold the record for most puns in movie history within his first scene.

Uma Thurman though actually is quite fun in this. She's hamming it up like the rest of 'em, but her's actually walks the line of being hammy and fun and not cringe worthy.

Simon
April 3rd, 2008, 1:35 PM
Not much of a ramble, but I just wanted to say that completedly unexpectedly I thought Lilo And Stitch was fucking hilarious. Very off-the-wall, not funny in a Shrek, "kids film with something for the grown ups" kind of way...it was just very funny. The plot was completely un-Disney as well, and I think that was part of what made it so funny - everything was so unexpected. Two minutes in and the heroine of the film, an 8-year old girl, jumps on a classmate and starts punching her in the face. She ends up with a social worker coming round her house. Bizarre. Loads of little oddball moments like that, this created monster being a huge Elvis fan for example.

Stitch had some great moments as well. Getting out of a conversation by ramming his feet into his mouth so that he turned ball-shaped and could roll away was a highlight, as was his recreation of a city in the kid's bedroom so that he could rampage through it like monsters in the movies.

This is not one of those ironic, 'isn't Disney just GREAT?' type of enjoyments, it wasn't about enjoying the childish bits as you did when you were a kid...it was just a genuinely laugh-out-loud, consistently funny little riot of a film, it was non-stop. The only Disney film I can really compare it to is Aladdin, which was similarly funny for anyone and not just for kids.

I'll probably get the piss taken out of me for this, but I don't care. An unexpected gem, and the most I've laughed at a film in ages.

Also, Run Fatboy Run was panned by critics but I thought it was a fairly fun little bit of throwaway fun with a couple of great moments. The commentator's overexcitement at what he's seeing when Pegg finishes the race is fantastic..."AND HE'S GOT A SON! I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD A SON!".

Hulkamaniac
April 3rd, 2008, 6:13 PM
I preferred Tim's review of Dumbo.

Zen
April 3rd, 2008, 6:52 PM
Jurassic Park is brilliant. I could have done without the third installment. Fucking spinosaurus? T-Rex would massacre that.

Jimmy Zero
April 3rd, 2008, 7:41 PM
I actually thought the third one was better than the second one.

They were both ass, but still.

Guy
April 3rd, 2008, 7:43 PM
Yea I preferred the third over the second.

Mainly as the second had Jeff Goldbum's (black) daughter dropkicking raptors after doing some gymnastics on a brown gymnastics pole hidden within a tree

Jimmy Zero
April 3rd, 2008, 7:49 PM
Psssh, that was so racist.

Zen
April 3rd, 2008, 8:26 PM
Yea I preferred the third over the second.

Mainly as the second had Jeff Goldbum's (black) daughter dropkicking raptors after doing some gymnastics on a brown gymnastics pole hidden within a tree

omg yes. Horrible moment.

Beforehand
April 3rd, 2008, 8:37 PM
"Don't go into the long grass! Not into the long grass!"

*runs into the long grass*

Cinematic masterpiece.

The Doc
April 3rd, 2008, 8:42 PM
I thought 3 was better than 2, even if it fucked up a lot of shit. Spinosaurs vs T-Rex was cool but how in the hell did they not know about it the last time they came to the island?

Also the Lost World is an excellent book. To see the movie paid no attention to the book made it worse because I had expectations that went beyond dinosaurs and running.

Guy
April 3rd, 2008, 9:37 PM
There was rumour that the fourth would have dinosaurs with guns....

PurePlayer
April 3rd, 2008, 9:51 PM
So what do you guys think of The Ruins? It looks like a decent horror movie. I'm probably going to check it out tomorrow night.

Ricky
April 3rd, 2008, 11:15 PM
There was rumour that the fourth would have dinosaurs with guns....

I want that made now.

Mr. Boombastic
April 4th, 2008, 3:19 PM
The third JP was miles above the second for one reason Alan Grant > Ian Malcolm. The whole plot about Raptors being smarter than humans and being the dominant species if still on earth was interesting I thought.


Also the Lost World is an excellent book. To see the movie paid no attention to the book made it worse because I had expectations that went beyond dinosaurs and running.

I have heard other people say that too. What was the book about or how was it different that made it so much better and not just an excuse to ripoff Godzilla.

N.E.R.F.
April 4th, 2008, 3:24 PM
Erm it was just much much better than the film. No 'second team' in the sense that the movie had, just three saboteurs. Malcolm didn't have a daughter, two of his students snuck on the island with him instead. No Nick Van Owen.

No T-Rex on the mainland, though that is both a positive and a negative.


I think I'm alone in loving all three movies though. Pete Postlethwaite is a badman.

Guy
April 4th, 2008, 4:19 PM
I own them all, I think they all have thir positives and definatly entertaining.

Just that the second two could never match the first

Ricky
April 4th, 2008, 5:56 PM
Just finished watching American Psycho. Great movie. Was in tears laughing during the Huey Lewis scene and the phone call to his lawyer.

Also, I have a new appreciation for Mik's avatar.

Jimmy Zero
April 4th, 2008, 8:22 PM
You know, as stupid as it is, I really love America's Funniest Home Videos.

Watching fat people fall and morons get hit in the balls NEVER gets old.

The Doc
April 4th, 2008, 8:40 PM
The second movie had so many less people. I don't mind the daughter change from the students, that didn't hurt anything IMHO. It was the addint of an ARMY to the movie instead of three guys. It was them skipping the camoflauge dino Carnotaurus if I recall but it's been years.

The book and the movie have very very little in common. I like the book better but really this almost isn't a case of the book being better than the movie as it the that two different products happened to have the same name. You know like Resident Evil the video game and Resident Evil the movie. The two have some similiarities but they aren't really teh same story.

I would have liked Lost World a lot more if they'd called it Jurrassic Park II and thus not given me expectations.

Honestly I would watch a Jurassic Park IV if it hit. Give me some half baked plot about how a bunch of big game hunters wanted the ultimate thrill and went to Isla Nublar. Give me say twelve guys and maybe a stupid researcher and roughly 90 minutes of dinosaurs, running and dying and I'm happy.

I'm mean come on I watch Friday the 13th and that's what eleven nearly identical movies?

Zen
April 4th, 2008, 11:48 PM
They had this Mr. Levine guy in the book that seemed like a pretty interesting character as well.

Or was it Lavigne, because I haven't read it in so long a time.

Guy
April 5th, 2008, 2:17 AM
Wasn't the 2nd movie made before the 2nd book?

I say this only because in the doumentaries on the disc, Speilberg goes on about how he named it "The Lost World" after an older claymation-style dinosaur movie. Not after a book

Morrison
April 5th, 2008, 2:20 AM
The book came out in 1995, the film in 1997. Unless Spielberg is completely oblivious, I'm fairly sure they named it after the book. It'd be far too big of a coincidence.

Thirteen
April 5th, 2008, 6:00 AM
Jurassic Park is one of the best films made in the 90s, and one of the best books, especially by Michael Crichton, although as much as I like the book, it is probably one of the few movies I like better than the book.

The Lost World book is very well done, and I actually love the character of Ian Malcolm, both from the book, and Jeff Goldblum's portrayal of him. The movie has very little to do with the book, and only a few base ideas. From what I read, Crichton was writing the sequel to the book, and then they decided to write a sequel to the movie. The Lost World was actually a pretty decent movie, up until it became Godzilla with the T-Rex, and then it became kind of ridicolous. They should have ended it with them escaping off the island, and I think it would have received far less grief.

The third movie, which had nothing to do with the book, was horrible. Horrible, I say. I'm a huge William H. Macy fan, but the whole movie came off almost as a spoof of the Jurassic Park movies. The writing was thrown together, just to get another movie out to capitalize on the success of the previous movies, and it was so bad that even Michael Crichton said in many interviews how he wish it was not considered a Jurassic Park movie.

There was talk of a Jurassic Park IV, however, in one of the speculated scripts, it actually had the dinosaurs talking, so thankfully, they haven't made one. Although, I'd honestly have to agree with doct. If another movie came out, I'd probably go to see it in a heartbeat.