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Version 6
March 11th, 2009, 5:15 PM
Ramble:

I'm excited. My girlfriend and her son are out of the house all evening. Just me and the son. I'm trying to decide what movie I should watch.........

Take advantage of the peace and quiet, and watch something that requires you to pay attention.

Good Night and Good Luck, or something.

IB
March 11th, 2009, 5:18 PM
like I said I have my 1 year old while she is gone. Her being gone just ensures that I get to watch something of my choosing.....


fuck it I'll prolly just throw on an old wrestling DVD or something I can quote. My 1 year old is a terror and I doubt I get to really "watch" much.

Fuck now I'm not looking forward to this evening as much as originally thought :(

Version 6
March 11th, 2009, 5:22 PM
Can't you just chain him to something for 90 minutes or so?

IB
March 11th, 2009, 5:23 PM
Fucking CPS made me install in-home cameras to monitor me during "visitation"


No, but seriously, that might work. I deserve a good film night. I will explain that to him when he reaches legal age.

Version 6
March 11th, 2009, 5:28 PM
He'll understand. My Dad used to do it to me during the football.

Seriously though, something Judd Apatow?

IB
March 11th, 2009, 5:30 PM
I have all of them. I recently burned Role Models. Was that an "Apatow Joint"?


Either way Paul Rudd and McLovin' are the ballz.

Hulkamaniac
March 11th, 2009, 5:34 PM
You're thinking no money is changing hands between the studios and Empire then?

I've always had my suspicions.

I doubt it. I'd like to think not anyway. Its easy to get carried away at the time and realise how silly it was in retrospect.

Alf
March 12th, 2009, 1:30 PM
I watched the end of first blood the other night... and was struck by what a bloody good actor Sly is/was. That scene where he is talking about his buddy who was blown apart was amazing.

Hulkamaniac
March 12th, 2009, 4:33 PM
He's always been decent. He just cant talk is all.

Ringo
March 12th, 2009, 4:34 PM
I think "bloody good" is a BIT much, Alf, but he's definitely underrated as an actor, likely as a result of the type of films he's done. A bit like Old Costner.

RAMBO III tonight :hyper:

Keano's Magic Hat
March 12th, 2009, 4:43 PM
I think "bloody good" is a BIT much, Alf, but he's definitely underrated as an actor, likely as a result of the type of films he's done. A bit like Old Costner.

RAMBO III tonight :hyper:

He is 'bloody good'. The scene (the same one Alf noted, I believe) towards the end of First Blood where he's sitting in the Police station in tears and he says something like "out there we had honor, dignit but back here I'm nothing" always gets me.

Also, I wouldn't say Costner is underated at all. He has bit of a backlash bandwaggon going for various reasons but most would agree he is top draw.

Hulkamaniac
March 12th, 2009, 4:48 PM
Costner is probably one of my all time favourite actors when it comes to people who I almost always enjoy watching act.

Guy
March 12th, 2009, 4:50 PM
I've always maintained that Sly is a decent actor who, sadly, was happy to become typecast

KMH have you seen Copland? Worth a watch for a good Sly performance.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 12th, 2009, 4:50 PM
Speaking of Costner, watched The Untouchables last night. What a ridiculously entertaining film.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 12th, 2009, 4:52 PM
KMH have you seen Copland? Worth a watch for a good Sly performance.

Yep, really enjoyed it.

Guy
March 12th, 2009, 4:52 PM
Good man.

IB
March 13th, 2009, 9:59 AM
Random Rambling:


Favorite quote from this weeks Simpsons episode I just got to watch

Homer: "He's nailing something to our door..."

Lisa: "I wonder if it's feces?"


- Regarding Ned Flanders posting an eviction notice on the Simpsons front door. :lol:

Alf
March 13th, 2009, 10:42 AM
I think "bloody good" is a BIT much, Alf, but he's definitely underrated as an actor, likely as a result of the type of films he's done. A bit like Old Costner.

RAMBO III tonight :hyper:

If you can watch that scene in First Blood and tell me that the acting is NOT bloody good then you are a liar.

Ringo
March 13th, 2009, 10:58 AM
Didn't say it wasn't MATE. It's possible for decent actors to be more than decent on occasion. Fine, then he is capable of "bloody good". Anyway I love him and think he's underrated so there's not all that much to discuss.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 13th, 2009, 11:41 AM
Didn't say it wasn't MATE. It's possible for decent actors to be more than decent on occasion. Fine, then he is capable of "bloody good". Anyway I love him and think he's underrated so there's not all that much to discuss.

You are shite.

If an actor is capable of 'bloody good', then as an actor he is bloody good. If you want to say he has made some poor film choices and worked with shoddy directors who don't know how to get the best out of their talent then that's fair enough.

Vice
March 13th, 2009, 11:49 AM
You are shite.


Knock off the personal attacks, alright?

Marlon Dingle
March 13th, 2009, 11:49 AM
He has made some poor choices. Got to love Daylight for its shitness.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 13th, 2009, 12:00 PM
Knock off the personal attacks, alright?

Who the hell are you?

Alf
March 13th, 2009, 12:13 PM
The mod of this forum you spanner.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 13th, 2009, 12:15 PM
haha :D

Alf
March 13th, 2009, 12:31 PM
He's laughing in your face Vice. I think 6 months in the cooler should do him the world of good...

Skiznilly
March 13th, 2009, 12:43 PM
Random Rambling:


Favorite quote from this weeks Simpsons episode I just got to watch

Homer: "He's nailing something to our door..."

Lisa: "I wonder if it's feces?"


- Regarding Ned Flanders posting an eviction notice on the Simpsons front door. :lol:

I thought Lisa said "Theses" (referring to Martin Luther's zany religious shens), and Homer mis-heard it. If Lisa was speculating it was faeces, it might be even funnier though.

mth
March 13th, 2009, 1:42 PM
Lisa DID say "Theses", and Homer thought she said "feces". It makes sense, as Flanders is the religious guy, and Homer is a dolt.

Hulkamaniac
March 13th, 2009, 3:11 PM
Vice is not a mod of this forum.

At this point, does Joaquin Phoenix actually think that he's fooling anyone?

IB
March 13th, 2009, 3:18 PM
Lisa DID say "Theses", and Homer thought she said "feces". It makes sense, as Flanders is the religious guy, and Homer is a dolt.


I thought she said feces too. Based on Homers reaction and the fact I had to keep the volume down (as my boss was 1 room away while I was sneaking some ME time in), I never questioned it. Not as funny but still.

Tainted Eclipse
March 13th, 2009, 11:36 PM
just watched 'in the mood for love' and its probably the most well-shot film i've ever seen. it's brilliant in every other way too and everyone who isnt an idiot should see it.

Jimmy Zero
March 14th, 2009, 7:50 PM
Ok, I don't know who I was talking about this with, nor do I remember what thread it was, but I recall awhile back a few posters trying to say Clerks 2 was as good as, if not better than, the first one. I just re-watched Clerks 2 again for the first time since it was first out, and my belief that those folks are insane was re-affirmed.

Clerks 2 has some good laughs, but I found it borderline unwatchable once Kinky Kelly and the Stud showed up. That shit was fucking stupid, as was everything that happened for the last 25 minutes or so. The first Clerks is so much better than this movie it's not even close.

Thirteen
March 15th, 2009, 11:11 AM
Just found this out.

For those Stephen King fans out there, it looks like they're going to be making a big budget version of It for the big screen.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i25f8fdbe2f089f96d4d87462872c2b28

Personally, the original min-series is what got me interested in Stephen King in the first place, as I only saw the second half at first, and wanted to know the rest of the story, so I picked up the book in 8th grade (which is what got me sent to the counselor's office for reading it in school, but that's a story for another time) and loved it. Picked up another Stephen King book, then another, then another, and now I have the complete collection, including movies, and some odds and ends King memorabilia.

I just hope they don't screw the movie up, because it is a personal favorite of mine, although I would like to see a big budget adaptation of it, because that was one of the bigger flaws of the mini-series was some of the scenes just couldn't be done on the budget they had. Although, I would seriously not mind if they brought Tim Curry back as Pennywise as he was brilliant.

KorruptJustice
March 15th, 2009, 2:45 PM
That's really cool, and I hope the movie ends up being awesome. I'm a huge fan of the book (it's a toss-up between IT, 'Salem's Lot, and Needful Things as my favorite), and I loved the miniseries, even though they couldn't really do the ending properly, especially Tim Curry's performance as Pennywise.

My only concern is what would be cut out of the film. The miniseries was around 3 or 3 and a half hours, and that didn't even touch most of the book, so what's a two hour movie (two and half if we're lucky) going to be like? Still, I'm really excited about this, and hope it turns out well.

Beefy
March 15th, 2009, 3:10 PM
Tim Curry NEEDS to be in it (his Pennywise is genuinely iconic) but he better not turn into a spider at the end this time.

Although I share the reservation about how they can possibly trim as long and as complex a book as IT is into 140 minutes.

Version 6
March 15th, 2009, 5:04 PM
Ok, I don't know who I was talking about this with, nor do I remember what thread it was, but I recall awhile back a few posters trying to say Clerks 2 was as good as, if not better than, the first one. I just re-watched Clerks 2 again for the first time since it was first out, and my belief that those folks are insane was re-affirmed.

Clerks 2 has some good laughs, but I found it borderline unwatchable once Kinky Kelly and the Stud showed up. That shit was fucking stupid, as was everything that happened for the last 25 minutes or so. The first Clerks is so much better than this movie it's not even close.

:yes:

It's not even fucking close. Clerks 2 is a fairly lame retread when compared to the raw energy and freshness of Clerks.

Shock horror, I believe it was Blood who was arguing with you and I that Clerks 2 is a very good film.

Guy
March 15th, 2009, 5:29 PM
Clerks 2 is an enjoyable film, that made me laugh and gave (what I felt to be) a natural progression for the characters

Jimmy Zero
March 15th, 2009, 6:04 PM
a natural progression for the characters

There was no progression for the characters, and no way no how can anyone convince me that Rosario Dawson's character would EVER fuck that whiney faggot Dante.

Guy
March 15th, 2009, 6:48 PM
There was no progression for the characters

Exactly

House of Pancakes
March 15th, 2009, 10:28 PM
I've been hearing a lot about The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, and I caught the beginning of it before falling asleep on TV yesterday. The first ten minutes alone make me really want to watch it all, because it's shot gorgeously.

Hulkamaniac
March 16th, 2009, 4:38 AM
Its a very very rich film.

Its also very artsy, so even if you dont like it, you can pretend that you do.

KorruptJustice
March 16th, 2009, 7:08 AM
Tim Curry NEEDS to be in it (his Pennywise is genuinely iconic) but he better not turn into a spider at the end this time.

...Have you read the book?

Absolutely agree with you about Tim Curry though.

IB
March 16th, 2009, 11:15 AM
3 random notes from last night:

1. Watched the Comedy Central Roast of Larry the Cable Guy. At this point it is totally obvious, there is nobody with talent willing to be roasted in Hollywood! Also, I thought it was a very funny roast (as usual) but the amount of actual comedians with prepared jokes was down quite a bit this time. Between Toby Keith, Warren Sapp (aka Big Worm), Gary Busey, Marsha Brady, ect...The amount of pre-made teleprompted jokes was enough to make me sad. I miss the old roasts with ACTUAL good comedians who obviously write their own material. However, Marsha Brady and Gary Busey taking shots at their own pasts was funny (and yet kind of sad since they didn't come up with the punch lines themselves). Atleast they had a good sense of humor about their own shortcomings.


2. Watched some of the new Will Farrell show on HBO - One Last Night With President George W. Bush. I only watched about 30 minutes of it as I fell asleep - But what I saw did not impress me at all. Seems to me that he recycled alot of his old jokes/antics into a pretty boring stage performance. I am quite sure that this show came across better live than it does across tv.


3. Woke up sick and watched "The Heartbreak Kid" on HBO. I can see why critics panned it and it didn't get received as well as previous Stiller outtings. I liked this film in part- BUT - This film must have ADD as it never kept a pace, it constantly added new variables & it just lacked what I love about Ben Stiller movies - A deep connection for the underdog. Instead, I just wanted to see his wife naked again before the credits started rolling. I give this one a C.

Morrison
March 16th, 2009, 11:29 AM
3 random notes from last night:

1. Watched the Comedy Central Roast of Larry the Cable Guy. At this point it is totally obvious, there is nobody with talent willing to be roasted in Hollywood! Also, I thought it was a very funny roast (as usual) but the amount of actual comedians with prepared jokes was down quite a bit this time. Between Toby Keith, Warren Sapp (aka Big Worm), Gary Busey, Marsha Brady, ect...The amount of pre-made teleprompted jokes was enough to make me sad. I miss the old roasts with ACTUAL good comedians who obviously write their own material. However, Marsha Brady and Gary Busey taking shots at their own pasts was funny (and yet kind of sad since they didn't come up with the punch lines themselves). Atleast they had a good sense of humor about their own shortcomings.


2. Watched some of the new Will Farrell show on HBO - One Last Night With President George W. Bush. I only watched about 30 minutes of it as I fell asleep - But what I saw did not impress me at all. Seems to me that he recycled alot of his old jokes/antics into a pretty boring stage performance. I am quite sure that this show came across better live than it does across tv.



larry the cable guy is actually a pretty funny guy, and all but admits that he does this schtick of his because it's what's making him money.

and as for the will ferrell special, i thought it was awesome. i don't see how it was all recycled jokes and antics, especially since a lot of the material has to do with leaving the white house. he really never got to do much with the character on SNL, because most of the skits were only a few minutes long and had a staff of writers. here, it was only ferrell, and probably adam mckay. it seemed a lot more comfortable and freeing then anything he did while on saturday night live. going into it, i expected to be disappointed, because i was thinking it'd be an extended SNL skit, which would eventually get pretty tedious and tiresome. but it all managed to come off fresh and the material was quite funny and managed to be more relevant and aware of the man and his role as president then anything ever put across on SNL.

Beefy
March 16th, 2009, 9:31 PM
...Have you read the book?

Absolutely agree with you about Tim Curry though.

Yes I have read the book and yes I am aware that IT's final appearence in the book was as a spider but the point is that the film made it appear that IT actually is a spider, rather than that being the form that it was taking at that stage.

The book takes a huge amount of time going through what IT is but due to time constraints the film just chucks a badly animated and unconvincing spider on screen for a few seconds without any more explanation.

xpacnumber1fan
March 16th, 2009, 10:09 PM
My wife got me into watching Kyle XY, and I am absolutely pissed off that the show was canceled before they got a proper final episode. Pissed as hell.

Jimini
March 17th, 2009, 5:07 AM
I am gutted that John Doe, Harsh Realm (old I know) and My Own Worst Enemy were cancelled.
John Doe especially.
Only watched it last year or so and it was awesome. :(

KorruptJustice
March 17th, 2009, 6:56 AM
Yes I have read the book and yes I am aware that IT's final appearence in the book was as a spider but the point is that the film made it appear that IT actually is a spider, rather than that being the form that it was taking at that stage.

The book takes a huge amount of time going through what IT is but due to time constraints the film just chucks a badly animated and unconvincing spider on screen for a few seconds without any more explanation.

Oh, ok. I misunderstood what it was that you were complaining about. In that case, I completely agree with you.

Guy
March 19th, 2009, 6:56 AM
Natasha Richardson: Actress and wife to Liam Neeson has just died.

I have no idea who she really is, but she died after falling during skiing. They have two sons between them and she was 45.

Click Here for more detailed coverage (http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/bild-english/celebrity-gossip/2009/03/19/liam-neeson-wife-dies/actor-devastated-by-tragic-loss-of-natasha-richardson.html)

Keano's Magic Hat
March 19th, 2009, 7:22 AM
R.I.P. :(

IB
March 19th, 2009, 8:12 AM
I have a question for anyone who uses RapidShare. Is the download speed REALLY that much better with a premium account compared to a free account? I am on the fence as I just started using the site. 2 shiny nickels and some rep for anyone who isn't trolling :) :beer:

Jimini
March 19th, 2009, 9:11 AM
I get the same speed on either - probably due to limitations of my ISP.

Download at about 700/800 whatever it is per second.
Better with premium due to no waits, able to use a manager easier etc.

They recently reduced the amount you can download per day without buying extra space to 2.66GB instead of any amount whatsoever.

IB
March 19th, 2009, 9:20 AM
700/800 kbps???

Holy shit. I am downloading a .avi file right now and the transfer rate says 44.4 kbps


WTF.

Jimini
March 19th, 2009, 9:21 AM
I can download a 350MB file in about, I dunno, 8 or 9 minutes.
I download at the fast speed when it's free too.

Either your ISP is throttling it/peak/off-peak variances or there is something up with rapidshare, cos my downloads are always super-fast

IB
March 19th, 2009, 9:36 AM
I really hate to bog this thread down with my ignorance. Is their anyway to ease my ISP's choke hold on my download speed?

The file was 184 MB

It took 1 hour and 7 minutes, ffs!

Alf
March 19th, 2009, 9:39 AM
I never get amazing download speeds either.

Jimini
March 19th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Can't help you there.
I'm using PlusNet - In general they are pretty gads, but Rapidshare just blasts through all their shite.

Marlon Dingle
March 19th, 2009, 11:05 AM
EDIT: Sorry guys I just read earlier posts and realised you weren't talking about torrents. Ignore this post. Well you have probably read it all now so you haven't ignored it but still reading it was a waste of time wasn't it.

Hulkamaniac
March 19th, 2009, 3:42 PM
I have a question for anyone who uses RapidShare. Is the download speed REALLY that much better with a premium account compared to a free account? I am on the fence as I just started using the site. 2 shiny nickels and some rep for anyone who isn't trolling :) :beer:

I downloaded this morning's episode of Lost in 1 minute 40 seconds.

Beefy
March 19th, 2009, 3:49 PM
An episode like that usually takes 11 minutes for me. That's wireless though and I'd expect it to be a lot quicker if my PC was near enough the the router to be wired straight in.

I love Rapidshare.

Hobbit
March 19th, 2009, 4:14 PM
Took just under 15 minutes to get Lost today, compared to about 4 hours when I was getting merked by torrents. Only bad effect of Rapidshare is that my hard drive space is shrinking very quickly, rapidly even.

N.E.R.F.
March 19th, 2009, 4:31 PM
Who needs it that fast anyway? I turn my laptop on in the morning, set a torrent for Lost/BSG/24/whatever going before I leave for work, 98% of the time it's done by the time I get back, and also my upload ratio is helped by leaving it on for so long. Bosh, job done.

Version 6
March 19th, 2009, 4:54 PM
I downloaded this morning's episode of Lost in 1 minute 40 seconds.

So piracy is OK when it isn't movies?

Hulkamaniac
March 19th, 2009, 4:56 PM
Yup.

Version 6
March 19th, 2009, 5:01 PM
Well, that makes perfect sense.

IB
March 19th, 2009, 5:16 PM
It should. I am assuming he pays for atleast basic cable. He is simply downloading a show that he missed. Now movies are owned by the studios and expect money to see them. I can see the point there. But if he does pay for cable TV I think it is just to download a show he simply didn't see.



EDIT - But if I'm wrong and he dosen't have cable TV - Then he is a bad bad man!

Version 6
March 19th, 2009, 5:24 PM
That would make some sense, if cable companies didn't make recording software available on a higher subscription packages, and networks didn't make shows available for purchase (or even free view in some cases) on their website.

So, on anyones construction, its stealing.

RockOverBoston
March 19th, 2009, 5:31 PM
I don't know what cable has to do with a show that airs on ABC...

IB
March 19th, 2009, 5:39 PM
I cannot argue for mik. I am the biggest pirate I know.

Version 6
March 19th, 2009, 5:42 PM
Well then why the fuck did you bother with this?


It should. I am assuming he pays for atleast basic cable. He is simply downloading a show that he missed. Now movies are owned by the studios and expect money to see them. I can see the point there. But if he does pay for cable TV I think it is just to download a show he simply didn't see.



EDIT - But if I'm wrong and he dosen't have cable TV - Then he is a bad bad man!

RockOverBoston
March 19th, 2009, 5:50 PM
Also worth noting is that there may be no legal way for citizens of the UK to watch Lost as a first-run series...

Version 6
March 19th, 2009, 6:05 PM
But that applies to films as well.

There are countless films that get theatrical releases in America for instance, that don't in either Australia or the UK.

So, is it OK then to pirate films that don't get theatrical releases in your country?

Beefy
March 19th, 2009, 6:15 PM
But that applies to films as well.

There are countless films that get theatrical releases in America for instance, that don't in either Australia or the UK.

So, is it OK then to pirate films that don't get theatrical releases in your country?

I'd say in that instance that it was fair, yes.

As I've said before, I think downloading things which you could buy is stealing and comparable to shop-lifting. If you can't see a film without downloading it then I'd say that's ok (especially if, like Mik and I, you have a substantial DVD collection and are more than likely to own it once it comes out on DVD anyway).

I can't get satellite television where I live so I download TV shows with a clear conscience. I'll buy Lost & 24 on DVD on release day anyway.

Plus downloading shows has forced broadcasters to stop taking the piss out of the British public by screening shows months after their US broadcast date.

RockOverBoston
March 19th, 2009, 6:19 PM
Plus downloading shows has forced broadcasters to stop taking the piss out of the British public by screening shows months after their US broadcast date.

And that's become a 2-way street. We're getting programs from other countries far quicker than we ever had before, and we're able to either purchase or watch them online at the same time as the rest of the world.

Hulkamaniac
March 19th, 2009, 6:24 PM
I pay for Sky and I download the shows to get them early. I'm still funding the programmes, I'm just getting them early. I dont really care that much about TV though.

Guy
March 19th, 2009, 6:28 PM
I suppose Mik could also argue that you're not missing out on a theatre going experience with TV also.

But his stand against downloading films that are on DVD is null and void at this point. Especially with home cinema setups.

(continues watching downloaded 24 in crystal clear resolution on his living room television, through his Xbox/iMac wireless network)

Keano's Magic Hat
March 19th, 2009, 6:30 PM
Okay people, I've just watched Heat for the first time in years. My original opinion still stands - one of the most overated movies of all time.

That's all.

Murphy
March 19th, 2009, 6:33 PM
Saw it once years ago and liked it.

Saw that my Mum had recently bought it and do plan to see it again.

Saw Batman Begins last night. Thought it was unintentionally hilarious in parts, but it was bloody good. Looking forward to seeing The Dark Knight now.

Beefy
March 19th, 2009, 6:34 PM
Okay people, I've just watched Heat for the first time in years. My original opinion still stands - one of the most overated movies of all time.

That's all.

I concur.

Hulkamaniac
March 19th, 2009, 6:34 PM
I dunno, I think that its a meticulously made heist film, an exceptional example of the genre. But in all honesty, there is not a whole lot more to it outside of that. Had it not been THE De Niro/Pacino film, it would've just been a solid 4 star film instead of a 'classic'.

Ringo
March 19th, 2009, 6:35 PM
I concur.

Me also. It's good fun but people talk about it as some great. Don't get that all, it's bizarre. somebody explain plz.

I mean I think I preferred The Wrestler, Watchmen, Gran Torino and probably even Slumdog to it that I've seen this year already.

N.E.R.F.
March 19th, 2009, 6:37 PM
Portman :yes:

The_Mike
March 19th, 2009, 6:58 PM
Portman :yes:

This explains your love of Heat?

I thought the film was great myself, though. Not quite top rung, Godfather-level all time classic but an extremely solid film that I'd not ever say no to another viewing of.

Speaking of Natalie Portman, apparently she's signed on to be in Thor. Great. Now I'm going to have to watch a Triple H movie.

PurePlayer
March 19th, 2009, 7:49 PM
Okay people, I've just watched Heat for the first time in years. My original opinion still stands - one of the most overated movies of all time.

That's all.

I think that title belongs to the Matrix or Fight Club. Don't get me wrong, I really like both movies, but people overrate them.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 19th, 2009, 7:51 PM
I think that title belongs to the Matrix or Fight Club. Don't get me wrong, I really like both movies, but people overrate them.

"one of". Matrix also belongs on that list.

Not Fight Club, it's class.

TapOut
March 19th, 2009, 9:14 PM
Ok, I'm watching Hell's Kitchen, which I love... but they really need to stop having ties on the opening challenge right before cutting to a commercial break. It's so predictable. That is my only criticism of the show.

Ochoa
March 19th, 2009, 9:57 PM
I am about to watch Notorious. The movie about Biggie Smalls. I shall give my opinions once I am done. Plus, just watched Ugly Betty. Betty's new guy Matt looks like Matt Hardy.

Version 6
March 19th, 2009, 11:11 PM
I am about to watch Notorious. The movie about Biggie Smalls. I shall give my opinions once I am done.

Yeah, it's really nothing special at all.

I found it somewhat boring, and I like my hip hop so I'm probably in the target audience.

Ochoa
March 20th, 2009, 2:40 AM
It was ok. I realize it was called Notorious and about Biggie, but I would have liked to see more stuff w/ 2Pac in it. I'll give it a 6.5/10.

Version 6
March 20th, 2009, 2:55 AM
I think you'd enjoy this...

http://www.celluloidfilmreview.com/images/Biggie-And-Tupac.jpg

Deka
March 20th, 2009, 2:56 AM
I would have liked to see more stuff w/ 2Pac in it.
I actually could have seen much less of him and been happier with the movie. The guy they picked to play Tupac was an awful choice. He didn't look anything like him and he didn't pull off the character that well either.

Hulkamaniac
March 20th, 2009, 4:45 AM
I think that title belongs to the Matrix or Fight Club. Don't get me wrong, I really like both movies, but people overrate them.

I dont think that they do. To me, something like Citizen Kane is over-rated. The only problem with The Matrix or Fight Club is that they were ground-breaking and yet completely significant to a very specific generation and time.

Morrison
March 20th, 2009, 5:33 AM
in fact, i'd say the matrix sometimes gets underrated, because people tend to factor in the two sequels as disappointments in the franchise.

Jimini
March 20th, 2009, 5:40 AM
Don't know about that like...
People always seem to differentiate The Matrix as good/great and the sequels as pish in any discussion i've been part of/seen/read.

Guy
March 20th, 2009, 6:32 AM
Yea the sequels were lacking somewhat, but I don't know anyone who didn't fully enjoy the original.

I can't watch it so much nowadays however due to the amount of parodies of it after it came out

Morrison
March 20th, 2009, 7:01 AM
Don't know about that like...
People always seem to differentiate The Matrix as good/great and the sequels as pish in any discussion i've been part of/seen/read.


Yea the sequels were lacking somewhat, but I don't know anyone who didn't fully enjoy the original.

I can't watch it so much nowadays however due to the amount of parodies of it after it came out

i didn't say people claim not to enjoy it, only that they lump the first film into the complete disappointment of the trilogy, on many occasions. people i've encountered will tend to bring up how the last two films weren't that great, and when i inquire about the first, they'll say something to the effect of 'that was the best out of the three' or something equally as unglowing.

The Rosk
March 20th, 2009, 7:52 AM
Should I buy the Hitchcock boxset for 18 when I already own Rear Window and PSycho?

I steal cable
March 20th, 2009, 8:28 AM
For a while one by one of my dvd's have gone missing. I had the feeling that maybe one of my family members (mostly my younger brother) had been selling them or they'd been stolen by their friends but I had no evidence to back that up. The other day I was gonna start watching Angel again from the beginning so I looked for the first 3 seasons but couldn't find them. I asked my siblings if they'd lent to them friends or whatever and they both said no. Thought fuck it, if all my dvds are going missing I might as be the one selling them. Went onto google and put in 'sell dvds' and one of the first websites that came up was cex.co.uk which had already been clicked on. Went on the selling part and unfortunately for my little brother he doesn't know much about cookies cause I just clicked on the product keyword thing and up came a list of most of my missing dvd's. He tried to blame my sister to which I pointed out she had no access to the computer. He then said his friend liked to use that site to sell stuff to which I pointed out that I know his young asian friend quite well and that I very much doubt he has ever owned The Star Trek movies or Jeeves and Wooster. He just stood there.

So I ended up just kicking the shit out of my dvd shelves rather than his head and he left in a hurry. Lucky for me it was an ikea shelf cause otherwise I'm pretty sure my right foot would be broken right now. The shelves are fucked and a shit load of my dvds are now scattered around the living room. Can't believe the fucker sold a load of my MASH dvds.

sorry, just needed to vent

I steal cable
March 20th, 2009, 8:31 AM
Should I buy the Hitchcock boxset for 18 when I already own Rear Window and PSycho?

If it's the one now on sale at amazon, then definitely.

The Rosk
March 20th, 2009, 8:47 AM
How old is your brother?

Keano's Magic Hat
March 20th, 2009, 8:59 AM
Should I buy the Hitchcock boxset for 18 when I already own Rear Window and PSycho?

If it includes Vertigo and Strangers On A Train, then yes.

I steal cable
March 20th, 2009, 9:00 AM
How old is your brother?

17

Jimmy Zero
March 20th, 2009, 9:23 AM
You should sell his favorite material possession and then blame the asian kid.

Kure
March 20th, 2009, 9:40 AM
I dont think that they do. To me, something like Citizen Kane is over-rated. The only problem with The Matrix or Fight Club is that they were ground-breaking and yet completely significant to a very specific generation and time.

You could say the same thing about Citizen Kane. It was groundbreaking and significant, but arguably groundbreaking and significant for a longer period of time than The Matrix and Fight Club.

Jimini
March 20th, 2009, 9:41 AM
You should sell his favorite material possession and then blame the asian kid.
Maybe they are one and the same?

:whoa:

Ochoa
March 20th, 2009, 9:55 AM
I actually could have seen much less of him and been happier with the movie. The guy they picked to play Tupac was an awful choice. He didn't look anything like him and he didn't pull off the character that well either.


I think he looked like him, but sounded absolutely nothing like him.

Marlon Dingle
March 20th, 2009, 10:41 AM
I dont think that they do. To me, something like Citizen Kane is over-rated. The only problem with The Matrix or Fight Club is that they were ground-breaking and yet completely significant to a very specific generation and time.


I would also add the fact that both films have been ripped off and spoofed countless times in the relativley short period they have been out and so the originals themselves seem quite unoriginal if they were to be watched for the first time today.
If you watch The Matrix and just keep in your mind that this was one of the first major western movies that I can think of, to involve (at the time) a cross of ground breaking special effects, martial arts and sci-fi like that.

Bullet time has been so overused in the past ten years, that we now just accept it as a neccesary story telling device in mostly action related sequences. But I remember back when I was about 13 watching The Matrix for the first time on VHS and just being completley blown away by the effects and storyline. If The Matrix came out today, it would be seen as an unoriginally overlong action movie with a semi-interesting plot. In my opinion The Matrix set the bar for action movies since its release in 1999 which I dont think has been met since. Anyone?

Keano's Magic Hat
March 20th, 2009, 11:09 AM
If The Matrix came out today, it would be seen as an unoriginally overlong action movie with a semi-interesting plot. In my opinion The Matrix set the bar for action movies since its release in 1999 which I dont think has been met since. Anyone?

Complete contradiction.

Ringo
March 20th, 2009, 11:10 AM
That's just a ridiculous thing to say Marlon, on a number of levels.

Guy
March 20th, 2009, 11:12 AM
Not if you've seen Wanted it's not

Keano's Magic Hat
March 20th, 2009, 11:13 AM
I don't even see how those films are now unoriginal.

Terrible post.

Guy
March 20th, 2009, 11:31 AM
You don't see how The Matrix became a massive influence on a lot of the action movies that followed?

Morrison
March 20th, 2009, 11:38 AM
that's not the same thing, now is it?

Guy
March 20th, 2009, 11:54 AM
He probably didn't word it properly, but it's clear that Marlon is trying to say that since The Matrix came out, a bunch of ridiculously uninspired action movies have come out since. Overusing CGI and wirework with no good reason other than The Matrix proved massively successful with it all.

Even Charlies Angels FFS.

What he's saying is that it's difficult to go back and appreciate The Matrix nowadays because of the countless rip offs, parodies and it's own sequels.

Action movie-wise, the same is happening with the Bourne movies now, with Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace and Taken being the first that come to mind.



(The Matrix is itself wasn't massively original though as it has huge amounts of influence from Japanese cinema)

Ringo
March 20th, 2009, 12:01 PM
To be fair, Japanese cinema is largely irrelevant when it comes to the masses in the US. It might as well not exist.

Guy
March 20th, 2009, 12:04 PM
Oh yea, hence why The Matrix was so massive.

It was new to most of the western audience.

That's also why most people annoyingly see Max Payne as being influenced by The Matrix (a bit off point, but a personal annoyance)

Myles
March 20th, 2009, 12:19 PM
watched milk last night, very well done and Penn was fantastic

he probably beat rourke but who knows id say it was a coin flip

Myles
March 20th, 2009, 12:20 PM
Oh yea, hence why The Matrix was so massive.

It was new to most of the western audience.

That's also why most people annoyingly see Max Payne as being influenced by The Matrix (a bit off point, but a personal annoyance)

matrix was pretty bad, first one was okay, the other two were terrible

couldn't totally see how you like it though

Fro
March 20th, 2009, 12:46 PM
I remember coming out of the theater after seeing The Matrix with that feeling of being completely blown away and having a new perspective on reality.

Of course I was only 13, but still, it was one of the best cinema experiences I've ever had.

son_of_foley
March 20th, 2009, 12:51 PM
Sadly the 2nd was one of the worst cinema experiences I ever had

Ochoa
March 20th, 2009, 1:27 PM
watched milk last night, very well done and Penn was fantastic

he probably beat rourke but who knows id say it was a coin flip

I agree. I saw it earlier this week. After looking at both movies, I'd probably go with Penn. Milk was pretty good, I was surprised.

Hulkamaniac
March 20th, 2009, 2:32 PM
Should I buy the Hitchcock boxset for 18 when I already own Rear Window and PSycho?

I wouldnt bother.


For a while one by one of my dvd's have gone missing. I had the feeling that maybe one of my family members (mostly my younger brother) had been selling them or they'd been stolen by their friends but I had no evidence to back that up. The other day I was gonna start watching Angel again from the beginning so I looked for the first 3 seasons but couldn't find them. I asked my siblings if they'd lent to them friends or whatever and they both said no. Thought fuck it, if all my dvds are going missing I might as be the one selling them. Went onto google and put in 'sell dvds' and one of the first websites that came up was cex.co.uk which had already been clicked on. Went on the selling part and unfortunately for my little brother he doesn't know much about cookies cause I just clicked on the product keyword thing and up came a list of most of my missing dvd's. He tried to blame my sister to which I pointed out she had no access to the computer. He then said his friend liked to use that site to sell stuff to which I pointed out that I know his young asian friend quite well and that I very much doubt he has ever owned The Star Trek movies or Jeeves and Wooster. He just stood there.

So I ended up just kicking the shit out of my dvd shelves rather than his head and he left in a hurry. Lucky for me it was an ikea shelf cause otherwise I'm pretty sure my right foot would be broken right now. The shelves are fucked and a shit load of my dvds are now scattered around the living room. Can't believe the fucker sold a load of my MASH dvds.

sorry, just needed to vent

Tell your Mam. I told my Mam that my brother was stealing money out of my bank account when I was about 15 and he was 17. He got absolutley bollocked.


You could say the same thing about Citizen Kane. It was groundbreaking and significant, but arguably groundbreaking and significant for a longer period of time than The Matrix and Fight Club.

You could indeed. However, we are in the days of the parody and pastiche these days, so it makes it much more noticeable.


I would also add the fact that both films have been ripped off and spoofed countless times in the relativley short period they have been out and so the originals themselves seem quite unoriginal if they were to be watched for the first time today.
If you watch The Matrix and just keep in your mind that this was one of the first major western movies that I can think of, to involve (at the time) a cross of ground breaking special effects, martial arts and sci-fi like that.

Bullet time has been so overused in the past ten years, that we now just accept it as a neccesary story telling device in mostly action related sequences. But I remember back when I was about 13 watching The Matrix for the first time on VHS and just being completley blown away by the effects and storyline. If The Matrix came out today, it would be seen as an unoriginally overlong action movie with a semi-interesting plot. In my opinion The Matrix set the bar for action movies since its release in 1999 which I dont think has been met since. Anyone?

I understand what you're saying and partially agree with you, but knowing that I have watched The Matrix with 4 or 5 different classes of 25 students and know that people who havent seen it do still get blown away by it. Obviously the effect has faded, but a great film is still a great film, regardless of whether the gimmicks are now old hat or not.

Beefy
March 20th, 2009, 3:37 PM
Going back to Mary's story, my best mate is notorious for borrowing things and never giving them back. He doesn't steal them, he just losses things and then when he finds them he forgets that they aren't his.

Anyway, he opened up a music and movies shop called Music & Movies about eight or nine years ago. I took the day off work the first day to help him and when I went into the shop I swear that I found 20 of my old VHS tapes on the shelves about to be sold!

I wouldn't mind but one of the was the Graham Taylor documentary.

Ochoa
March 21st, 2009, 2:09 AM
Ugh. A lot of people I know are waiting in line to pick up Twilight. Apparently there are big lines everywhere. I've never seen it, so can someone tell me why this movie is special?

Jimini
March 21st, 2009, 5:42 AM
Cos all the teeny-boppers and emo folk are nuts?

Ochoa
March 21st, 2009, 10:44 AM
That could be it, actually.

I steal cable
March 22nd, 2009, 3:01 PM
Tell your Mam. I told my Mam that my brother was stealing money out of my bank account when I was about 15 and he was 17. He got absolutley bollocked.

I would but she deeeeeeeead. Could just say that Derek Acorah has been round and that he found out that she's very disappointed with him. I'd then proceed to throw her ashes into his face. Anywayz, after I kicked apart the shelf/dvd collection I went away for a few days without cleaning the mess up. My sister came home the other day and she thought that we'd been burgled.

Hulkamaniac
March 22nd, 2009, 4:29 PM
Tell your Dad?

Tim
March 23rd, 2009, 3:36 AM
What do you guys think of Chelsea Handler and her show "Chelsea Lately"? I think she's pretty funny, her sketch show she used to do was always LOL funny, and now she has a 30 minute late night talk show which is like a mix of "The View" (but funny) and the traditional "Tonight Show" which is getting better compared to the first few episodes. I find her to be a more entertaining host than a lot of others, she always asks questions that most would stay away from which is ballsy and funny. I wish she'd get Jimmy Fallon's spot, I think she's a lot funnier, more confident and a better interviewer.

Marlon Dingle
March 23rd, 2009, 4:33 AM
Complete contradiction.


Yeah sorry I didn't really read over what I had written. My point was The Matrix was original when it came out, and if it wasn't for that movie, alot of action movies wouldn't look the way they do now. Blood sort of got it right about what I was saying in that it set the mould because of how succesful it was critically and financially and so I could see alot of studios still today forcing action films to have "Bullet Time-esque" sequences and other techniques that were revolutionary in The Matrix, but are today ten a penny.

Also I agree with the sequels being shit especially the third one, did Neo die? I still dont really know. :confused:

Jimmy Zero
March 23rd, 2009, 9:49 AM
What do you guys think of Chelsea Handler and her show "Chelsea Lately"? I think she's pretty funny, her sketch show she used to do was always LOL funny, and now she has a 30 minute late night talk show which is like a mix of "The View" (but funny) and the traditional "Tonight Show" which is getting better compared to the first few episodes. I find her to be a more entertaining host than a lot of others, she always asks questions that most would stay away from which is ballsy and funny. I wish she'd get Jimmy Fallon's spot, I think she's a lot funnier, more confident and a better interviewer.

I think she's absolutely hilarious. I agree with everything you just said about her. Plus, she's got a fantastic rack.

I steal cable
March 23rd, 2009, 10:36 AM
Tell your Dad?

Neah, no-one talks or listens to him. Told my Aunt and the rest of my family and he's getting the really cold shoulder from us all. Fucking over your own family ain't right. Just started to give away the rest of my DVD's to friends/family I've lent to in the past and they've really enjoyed the film. I'll keep around 20 or so + my X-files collection and have them under my bed.

Beer-Belly
March 23rd, 2009, 11:02 AM
Brother of 'Dark Knight' director arrested
Matthew Nolan wanted in murder

March 20, 2009

BY FRANK MAIN Crime Reporter

The brother of Christopher Nolan -- director of the blockbuster "The Dark Knight" -- has his own dark tale, law enforcement officials allege.

Matthew Francis Nolan, 40, of the South Shore neighborhood, was under investigation by Chicago Police in a $700,000 bank-fraud scheme when FBI agents here nabbed him last month in connection with a 2005 killing in Central America.

Matthew Nolan is wanted in Costa Rica in the kidnapping and murder of Florida businessman Robert C. Cohen.

Matthew Nolan pretended he was interested in doing business in Costa Rica when the two met in a hotel. But his real mission was to recover $7million Cohen owed another Florida man, authorities said.

An accomplice kidnapped Cohen and the men tried to extort the money from Cohen's family; but when that failed, they killed Cohen, Costa Rican authorities said.

Matthew Nolan's alleged accomplice, Douglas Mejia, has been convicted. Nolan is being held here awaiting extradition proceedings.

Sources said Chicago Police were investigating Matthew Nolan in an unrelated, $700,000 check-kiting scheme."How long do you calculate him lasting there?"

son_of_foley
March 23rd, 2009, 1:21 PM
Paulo Wanchope always gets his man.

Marlon Dingle
March 24th, 2009, 9:37 AM
Is there a better comedy film than This is Spinal Tap? I was watching this again last night for the 407th time and there are still random bits in it that have me creasing myself. Even just little mannerisms or little vocal tweaks are enough to set me off. Anyone else rate it as much as I do? The more I watch it the more I realise just how revolutionary this film was. To put it simple, pure genius.

Jimmy Zero
March 24th, 2009, 9:41 AM
Yeah, great movie. I go through phases where it's literally the only thing I'll watch for months on end.

son_of_foley
March 24th, 2009, 9:48 AM
BUT IF YOU KEEP FOLDING IT....

1_Pablo_Angel
March 24th, 2009, 10:46 AM
Is there a better comedy film than This is Spinal Tap? I was watching this again last night for the 407th time and there are still random bits in it that have me creasing myself. Even just little mannerisms or little vocal tweaks are enough to set me off. Anyone else rate it as much as I do? The more I watch it the more I realise just how revolutionary this film was. To put it simple, pure genius.

Undoubtedly one of the greatest. You can tell how fantastic it is by the way it still gets referenced all over the place. There was a picture of Nigel Tuffnell on the Times website the other day.

Seeing them play Stonehenge, Big Bottom and Hotter than Hell at Wembley for Live Earth might be the highlight of my life so far.

Beefy
March 24th, 2009, 4:08 PM
I must admit to never having seen it. I've got it on DVD but never got around to watching it. May rectify that this weekend.

Top 3 comedy films:
South Park
The Naked Gun
Dumb & Dumber.

Jimmy Zero
March 24th, 2009, 5:11 PM
I must admit to never having seen it. I've got it on DVD but never got around to watching it. May rectify that this weekend.

Top 3 comedy films:
South Park
The Naked Gun
Dumb & Dumber.

:shocked:

Wow. Your top 3 comedies would be great if you subbed Naked Gun with Spinal Tap. I could never get into those spoofy type movies. Airplane! is alright, but Naked Gun, Hot Shots and all those types of movies have never made me laugh too much. Don't really know why, either.

Version 6
March 24th, 2009, 5:45 PM
I must admit to never having seen it.

This should be a criminal offence.

Or at the very least, worth a couple of infraction points.

Probably the best comedy of all time.

Hulkamaniac
March 24th, 2009, 6:21 PM
I must admit to never having seen it. I've got it on DVD but never got around to watching it. May rectify that this weekend.

Top 3 comedy films:
South Park
The Naked Gun
Dumb & Dumber.

Airplane! is top drawer.

Blazing Saddles too.

Jimmy Zero
March 24th, 2009, 6:24 PM
Oh shit, I have to make an addendum to my previous post. Blazing Saddles is amazing. Young Frankenstein and The Producers (with Gene Wilder and Zero Mostel) as well.

Beefy
March 24th, 2009, 6:33 PM
:shocked:

Wow. Your top 3 comedies would be great if you subbed Naked Gun with Spinal Tap. I could never get into those spoofy type movies. Airplane! is alright, but Naked Gun, Hot Shots and all those types of movies have never made me laugh too much. Don't really know why, either.

Seems strange that you can like Airplane but not Naked Gun. I'm not a big one on spoofs but for me the Naked Gun is the best one out there.

I just love Leslie Nielsen. I watch my Police Squad DVD religiously.

Guy
March 24th, 2009, 6:58 PM
Oh shit, I have to make an addendum to my previous post. Blazing Saddles is amazing. Young Frankenstein and The Producers (with Gene Wilder and Zero Mostel) as well.

I had to turn Young Frankenstein off halfway through, I thought it was dire

Pete Cash
March 24th, 2009, 7:13 PM
Speaking of Zero Mostel for a film I had to watch a trillion times for uni, I quite like A Funny Thing Happened On the Way to the Forum as far as comedies go.

So I am taking a sick day because I hurt my back playing cricket (lol) and I am working on doing something nice for my class who are studying the Trojan Myth cycle (which is an event that takes about 30 years start to finish. 10 years of build up more or less, 10 years of war and 10 years for the last of the Greeks to return home) so I was wiking up Petersons Troy to see how much of the cycle it includes (it has been a while since I watched it)

I always thought it was a box office failure, but I was shocked by how much money it made in overseas markets. It is like the 60th highest grossing film of all time.

I haven't watched the film for a bit. I seem to remember being bored by it. Not because it is "inaccurate" because lets face it. The Greeks would change up their myth cycle all the time. Homer's work is just the best known and the best of the stories. Peterson killing Menalaus is a bit gay because he is a character in the Odyssey, but he needed a way to have Paris escape a one on one fight with a tough and battle hardened Spartan King without having Aphrodite literally fly down and scoop him up and carrying him to his room. So having Hector kill Menelaus was probably the logical thing to do.

Oh and changing Achilles and Patroclus to cousins when in the myth cycle they were just really, really, really, really, really good and close friends ;) seems a bit cowardly, but I suppose he did want to make money in America.

Blah. I should do a thread on Western canon, because my class all though the Iliad was about the Trojan War. No silly people. The Iliad is set in the Trojan War but that is not what it is about *smokes pipe*

Jimmy Zero
March 24th, 2009, 7:22 PM
Seems strange that you can like Airplane but not Naked Gun. I'm not a big one on spoofs but for me the Naked Gun is the best one out there.

I just love Leslie Nielsen. I watch my Police Squad DVD religiously.

I wouldn't say I particularly like Airplane!. I guess it'd be more accurate to say I dislike it less than I dislike Naked Gun.

Jimmy Zero
March 24th, 2009, 7:26 PM
I had to turn Young Frankenstein off halfway through, I thought it was dire

Not enough blue filter?:D

Hulkamaniac
March 24th, 2009, 7:28 PM
Ahaahaha.

Thirteen
March 24th, 2009, 9:48 PM
Speaking of Zero Mostel for a film I had to watch a trillion times for uni, I quite like A Funny Thing Happened On the Way to the Forum as far as comedies go.


Everyone ought to have a maid!


I love AFTHOTWTTF, of course, I worked theater in college, running tech, so I ran lights for the show and many others, so it was either really like it, or grow to loathe it and take a sniper rifle up to the tech booth and start taking out leads during the peformance of it, seeing with rehearsals and shows, we did probably a total of 50 shows over the coarse of a month, I started really liking it.

Now South Pacific...I seriously wanted to shoot someone during that.

Marlon Dingle
March 25th, 2009, 4:14 AM
Not enough blue filter?:D


agashgashgash Blue filter!!!

Guy
March 27th, 2009, 7:07 AM
I'm making my way through all seasons of Red Dward (in anticipation for the new episodes).

Now I haven't watched them since their original air dates, and I was quite young back then and remember finding them quite funny. But watching them back now (I'm mid-way through season 4) I don't think I've laughed properly once. I mean the show has some nice ideas, and it's cool watching these odd situations play out, but I haven't actually found it 'funny'.

Anyone else feel like that?

Jimini
March 27th, 2009, 7:14 AM
Christ, never thought I'd see the day that they'd actually come back to this.
How many times did the rumoured film get into the pre-production and I believe once or twice, production modes, only to fall to pieces?

I love Red Dwarf and will add these dates to my diary :yes:

:headbang:

Hulkamaniac
March 27th, 2009, 8:11 AM
I'm making my way through all seasons of Red Dward (in anticipation for the new episodes).

Now I haven't watched them since their original air dates, and I was quite young back then and remember finding them quite funny. But watching them back now (I'm mid-way through season 4) I don't think I've laughed properly once. I mean the show has some nice ideas, and it's cool watching these odd situations play out, but I haven't actually found it 'funny'.

Anyone else feel like that?

They were never hillariously laugh out loud funny comedies. They are fun and clever and good.

TapOut
March 28th, 2009, 4:55 AM
MGM gets its 'Stooges'

Penn, Carrey, Del Toro part of studio's plan

MGM and the Farrelly brothers are closing in on their cast for "The Three Stooges." Studio has set Sean Penn to play Larry, and negotiations are underway with Jim Carrey to play Curly, with the actor already making plans to gain 40 pounds to approximate the physical dimensions of Jerome "Curly" Howard.
The studio is zeroing in on Benicio Del Toro to play Moe.
The film is not a biopic, but rather a comedy built around the antics of the three characters that Moe Howard, Larry Fine and Howard played in the Columbia Pictures shorts.
The quest by the Peter and Bobby Farrelly to harness the project spans more than a decade and three studios. They first tried at Columbia, again at Warner Bros., and finally at MGM, where Worldwide Motion Picture Group chairman Mary Parent championed the cause and bought the WB-owned scripts and made a deal with Stooges rights holders C3.
Production will begin in early fall for a release sometime in 2010. The Farrellys, who wrote the script, are producing with their Conundrum partner Bradley Thomas, and Charlie Wessler.
C3 Entertainment principals Earl and Robert Benjamin will be executive producers.
Project will get underway after Penn completes the Asger Leth-directed Universal/Imagine Entertainment drama "Cartel." He hasn't done a comedy since the 1989 laffer "We're No Angels."
The Farrellys have long had their eyes on Del Toro to play Moe. Del Toro, who's coming off "Che," showed comic chops in the Guy Ritchie-directed "Snatch."
The surprise is the emergence of Carrey to play Curly. Howard established the character as a seminal physical comedian, from the first time he appeared in the first Stooges short in 1934 until he suffered a stroke on the set in 1946.


http://www.variety.com/VR1118001643.htmlI so don't even know what the hell to think about this. Why must EVERYTHING now be made into a movie or redone in film-form?

Beer-Belly
March 28th, 2009, 5:14 AM
I so don't even know what the hell to think about this. Why must EVERYTHING now be made into a movie or redone in film-form?

It certainly looks and smells like shit.

Jimmy Zero
March 28th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Del Torro as Moe? Sean Penn as Larry? What the fuck is the world coming to?

In other news, I watched Ghostbusters 2 last night. It's not that bad, really. It's not as good as the first one, but it's better than people would seem to have you think.

PurePlayer
March 28th, 2009, 12:01 PM
I so don't even know what the hell to think about this. Why must EVERYTHING now be made into a movie or redone in film-form?

To make money?

Guy
March 28th, 2009, 12:06 PM
Del Torro as Moe? Sean Penn as Larry? What the fuck is the world coming to?

In other news, I watched Ghostbusters 2 last night. It's not that bad, really. It's not as good as the first one, but it's better than people would seem to have you think.

I never got the hate for GB2. So the ending is a bit of a cop out...besides that it's fun.

Wooooo
March 28th, 2009, 12:32 PM
if were talking films of our youth that are much better than remembered I put to you:-

Home alone

I have recently rewatched it twice, and its brilliant

Ringo
March 28th, 2009, 12:36 PM
Yes it is.

Murphy
March 28th, 2009, 12:42 PM
Indeed it certainly is. The 2nd is good also.

TapOut
March 28th, 2009, 5:09 PM
To make money?

Pretty shit reason, really, considering almost any movie without an extreme budget and decent lead actor can make money.

*And yes, Home Alone (both 1 and 2) are tremendous. I mentioned the climax of the first one in the thread about great climaxes. I miss when people used to laugh, clap and cheer at movies and even give standing ovations at the end. I remember going to that movie in the theater and the atmosphere during it. One of a kind.

Beefy
March 28th, 2009, 5:39 PM
I don't remember Ghostbusters 2 ever being called anything worse than not being as good as Ghostbusters.

Guy
March 28th, 2009, 5:46 PM
I don't remember Ghostbusters 2 ever being called anything worse than not being as good as Ghostbusters.

It's always been considered pretty bad, and I have no idea why. I mean clearly it's not as good as Ghostbusters, but not many films are. But Ghostbusters 2 is still a decent, entertaining film that should happily be considered canon to the series.

Go check rottentomatoes to see the hate for it though.

Beefy
March 28th, 2009, 5:49 PM
I don't know.... I've never heard anyone say anything too bad about that film. It's pretty solid.

Guy
March 28th, 2009, 5:51 PM
I fucking love the Ghostbusters franchise. If it was a person I'd sex it, regardless of its gender.

Beefy
March 28th, 2009, 5:53 PM
the only thing bad I have to say about it is that it's not as good as the Back to the Future franchise.

Beefy
March 28th, 2009, 5:54 PM
Of course, nothing is as good as the Back to the Future franchise.

Guy
March 28th, 2009, 5:57 PM
I'll always love Ghostbusters more, it's embedded in my childhood, a part of me was raised by those films and cartoons.

Though I do realise that Back to the Future is altogether a more stable, thought out and complete package. The cartoon wasn't a patch on the Ghostbusters one though

PurePlayer
March 29th, 2009, 1:50 PM
So I just watched the Mission Impossible movies. I did watch the first one in theaters, but I was like 11 years old. So I decided to put them on my netflix, and I really enjoyed the first and third. The second one just seemed weird. I think it had to do with John Woo's directing to be perfectly honest. I did like Face/Off, but I haven't liked another movie of his. As a whole, the franchise was pretty decent as far as action movies go, especially the first one which I thought was very good.

What did you guys think of the Mission Impossible movies?

Vice
March 29th, 2009, 1:58 PM
The first one is an enjoyable movie, and I liked the cast a lot. The second one doesn't even seem like a movie-- it just feels like two hours of Woo trying to make Tom Cruise look super cool, but had a few tracks in the score that I really enjoyed. Haven't seen the third.

PurePlayer
March 29th, 2009, 2:06 PM
That's pretty much what I wanted to say about the 2nd one, but I didn't know how to say it.

Guy
March 29th, 2009, 3:30 PM
Yea Vice pretty much nailed it, MI:II is just like a 90 minute slow motion music video. In my opinion the third is the best of the trilogy, I was plesently surprised by it.

PurePlayer, if you like Face/Off but didn't like any other John Woo film, it's simply because you haven't seen any of his Hong Kong movies. Go find the film 'Hard Boiled', if you like it then track down the rest of his HK stuff.

A Better Tomorrow
A Better Tomorrow II
The Killer
Bullet in the Head
Hard Boiled

:yes:

Vice
March 29th, 2009, 4:08 PM
MI:II is just like a 90 minute slow motion music video.


123 minutes, actually.

Not correcting you to be a dick, but to emphasize just how much "cool" time Mr. Cruise got.

Guy
March 29th, 2009, 4:46 PM
This is payback for the multiple corrections in the gamertag thread isn't it.....

As bad as MI:II is, I still love a good bit of Woo. Rumour is MI:IV is on the way soon.

Whilst the MI franchise isn't the best out there, it IS interesting to see each film directed by a big name and stylish director. I can't wait to see who they have directing IV

PurePlayer
March 29th, 2009, 5:36 PM
Yea Vice pretty much nailed it, MI:II is just like a 90 minute slow motion music video. In my opinion the third is the best of the trilogy, I was plesently surprised by it.

PurePlayer, if you like Face/Off but didn't like any other John Woo film, it's simply because you haven't seen any of his Hong Kong movies. Go find the film 'Hard Boiled', if you like it then track down the rest of his HK stuff.

A Better Tomorrow
A Better Tomorrow II
The Killer
Bullet in the Head
Hard Boiled

:yes:

Nice, I will check some of those out.

Guy
March 29th, 2009, 5:43 PM
Cool. Lemme know what you think

Mister J
April 1st, 2009, 11:58 PM
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pissing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourselves. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?

Marlon Dingle
April 3rd, 2009, 7:01 AM
Smackhead.

I remember Blood asked us about a thinking man's action movie a few weeks back. I just thought of Total Recall which is like the best action/sci-fi movie of the nineties. Anyone agree, I really want to get it on Blu-Ray but all the reviews say its shit quality.

"WHAT THE FUCK I NEVER EVEN BEEN TO MARS." - I know Quaid doesn't say this but its a paraphrase that me and my mates like to shout.

son_of_foley
April 3rd, 2009, 7:16 AM
Ghostbusters 2 scared the living crap out of me as a child

Hobbit
April 3rd, 2009, 7:20 AM
In the midst of my foreign filmathon, I watched the non-foreign (well it's American but you get me) film SPLINTER. It was dreadful, might be one of the most boring horror films I've ever seen. The dialogue was appalling and the acting was straight from a soap it really was atrocious. Even the gore looked awful. I would give it 0/10 but since it had a fairly fit lady in it it gets a point for that and it ended so there's another point. 2/10.

Guy
April 3rd, 2009, 7:25 AM
Smackhead.

I remember Blood asked us about a thinking man's action movie a few weeks back. I just thought of Total Recall which is like the best action/sci-fi movie of the nineties. Anyone agree, I really want to get it on Blu-Ray but all the reviews say its shit quality.

"WHAT THE FUCK I NEVER EVEN BEEN TO MARS." - I know Quaid doesn't say this but its a paraphrase that me and my mates like to shout.

I wouldn't say Total Recall was a thinking man's film. Just that it was open ended.

Still bleddy good though

"Hahaha you think this is the real Quaid? ....IT IS!"

Guy
April 3rd, 2009, 7:27 AM
Ghostbusters 2 scared the living crap out of me as a child

Whilst on the subject of 'apparently' inferior sequels. Am I the only person here that enjoys Predator 2 on some level?

I mean Predator is great, the Alien vs Predators are god awful, but something about Predator 2 I actually enjoyed.

Maybe it was Murtogh vs Predator, maybe it was Bill Paxton, maybe it was a crazy Jamacan voodoo priest....I have no idea, but I never found it as terrible as others claim to

Jimmy Zero
April 3rd, 2009, 9:50 AM
Predator 2 is cool as hell. There's nothing wrong with it. Great action movie.

Hobbit
April 3rd, 2009, 10:02 AM
Hell yeah Predator 2 is immense, I think a lot of people rate it highly :yes:

Beer-Belly
April 3rd, 2009, 10:07 AM
Gary Busey gets his shit rocked in that one, right?

The funniest part of that movie is when Predator runs through the walls of that apartment complex.

IB
April 3rd, 2009, 10:25 AM
EDIT. WRONG THREAD.

KorruptJustice
April 3rd, 2009, 11:09 PM
Whilst on the subject of 'apparently' inferior sequels. Am I the only person here that enjoys Predator 2 on some level?

I mean Predator is great, the Alien vs Predators are god awful, but something about Predator 2 I actually enjoyed.

Maybe it was Murtogh vs Predator, maybe it was Bill Paxton, maybe it was a crazy Jamacan voodoo priest....I have no idea, but I never found it as terrible as others claim to

Nothing wrong with Predator 2. It may not be as great as the first one, but it's still a hell of a fun film to watch.

BabyBooboo
April 4th, 2009, 2:52 PM
Fast and Furious made an estimated $70 mil over the weekend. :eek: Holy shit.

Guy
April 4th, 2009, 4:01 PM
Predator 2 is cool as hell. There's nothing wrong with it. Great action movie.


Hell yeah Predator 2 is immense, I think a lot of people rate it highly :yes:


Gary Busey gets his shit rocked in that one, right?

The funniest part of that movie is when Predator runs through the walls of that apartment complex.


Nothing wrong with Predator 2. It may not be as great as the first one, but it's still a hell of a fun film to watch.

You guys are all legends.

I just got through with AvP2 for the second time (Haven't seen it for a year or so) and have come to the conclusion that it actually would be quite an enjoyable film if it wasn't all filmed in complete pitch black and you can see shit all that's happening during most of the better sequences.

The first one is terrible (fucking Anderson) but the second has some decent moments, a cool ass Predator, an awesome PredAlien and so on. I just can't make anything out half the time.

KorruptJustice
April 5th, 2009, 7:50 AM
I just got through with AvP2 for the second time (Haven't seen it for a year or so) and have come to the conclusion that it actually would be quite an enjoyable film if it wasn't all filmed in complete pitch black and you can see shit all that's happening during most of the better sequences.

Though I disagree with you about the quality of the film (I thought it was shit, but admittedly less shit than the first AvP), but you're absolutely right about how dark it was. I had to crank the brightness on my TV almost all the way up just to be able to see anything that was going on. It was bad enough that if I had seen this in theaters, I would have asked for my money back, because I would have been convinced that there was some sort of problem with the projector.

Guy
April 5th, 2009, 8:40 AM
It's not a cinematic masterpiece by any means, neither is it anywhere near the quality of the best of the Alien or Predator films...BUT...as far as a film titled 'Aliens Vs Predator" can go you could do a lot worse (IE the first one)

You get your fair share of Aliens fighting a Predator, it's just a shame that you can't see any of it, as from what I can make out, the fights are pretty cool.

Guy
April 5th, 2009, 2:22 PM
Whilst on the subject of Aliens, has anyone seen the Special Edition cut of Aliens 3?

I bought the box set about an age ago, and remember thinking that whilst Alien 3 is underwhelming, the Assembly Cut is actually quite great, and possibly became my favourite in the series.

This was a long time ago however, I will be sitting through the four of them this week and see if I re-evaluate my opinion. Things is, I don't know whether to sit through the regular editions of the films, or the directors cuts/special editions.

Opinions?

N.E.R.F.
April 5th, 2009, 2:43 PM
Sit through both versions of all four. Alien 3 does make a massive difference with Fincher's cut though. Love it.

KorruptJustice
April 5th, 2009, 2:51 PM
Yeah, I saw that not too long ago, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. However, I've never seen the original cut of Alien 3, so I can't really say how it compares.

Guy
April 5th, 2009, 2:54 PM
Sit through both versions of all four. Alien 3 does make a massive difference with Fincher's cut though. Love it.

Urgh I couldn't, that would kill me.

N.E.R.F.
April 5th, 2009, 2:56 PM
I'm really tempted to do that myself but I'm five eps away from finishing 24 season 1, with seasons 2-6 waiting for me. Plus The Wire seasons 3-5 and apparently something called The Sopranos is alright too...

Guy
April 5th, 2009, 3:16 PM
YES! The 24 Marathon, that's how I did it my friend, I just finished last week when I caught up with Season 7, and now have to wait weekly :mad:.

Feel free to hit me up if you wanna chat about the seasons as you progress. I only say this because I was quite annoyed I had no one to talk to when I was watching all of 24 (as I was years behind everyone else and they probably can't remember half of it at this point)

N.E.R.F.
April 5th, 2009, 3:43 PM
Oh I've seen them all before. Just re-watching for the fun of it.

Guy
April 5th, 2009, 4:21 PM
:eek: The 'fun' of it!

Watching them all the first time was a chore enough as it is (not that they aren't great, they just require so much effort)

PurePlayer
April 5th, 2009, 4:23 PM
I don't know what it is, but I am not a fan of the Alien films at all. I hated the first one as I thought it was really boring, and I couldn't get into when it started to pick up. Aliens was pretty good, but nothing that I have to watch again. Alien 3 was nothing more than average. I never saw any of the other Alien films after that. They just don't do it for me.

Alf
April 8th, 2009, 8:08 AM
I purchased IT and The Stand on DVD...

Hulkamaniac
April 8th, 2009, 8:16 AM
I probably should've warned you beforehand that The Stand is pretty awful in a way.

In some ways its cool seeing the story played out, in other ways it'll drive you insane as its a really dated, miscast missed opportunity. It really needs the Lord of the Rings three-part trilogy treatment.

Keano's Magic Hat
April 8th, 2009, 8:35 AM
I probably should've warned you beforehand that The Stand is pretty awful in a way.

In some ways its cool seeing the story played out, in other ways it'll drive you insane as its a really dated, miscast missed opportunity. It really needs the Lord of the Rings three-part trilogy treatment.

Yeah, I told you it was shite.

Alf
April 9th, 2009, 6:57 AM
Watched IT last night.

Loved Tim Curry as Pennywise.

It was a pretty faithful adaptation but with a pretty shite script and pretty shite acting.

It was funny seeing a young and big nosed Seth Green playing young Richie. The dad from 8 Simple Rules as Old Ben and the dad from Sister, Sister as Old Mike, and Martha Kent as Old Bev.

When they do their new adaptation they'll be able to make Pennywise bloody terrifying.

Guy
April 9th, 2009, 7:09 AM
Hopefully. I have a feeling they'll make him...pretty shitty.

King films are very hit and miss, mainly miss. And whilst I'm all for a kick ass new adaptation of IT, I just don't have the faith in Hollywood.

IB
April 9th, 2009, 3:58 PM
RAMBLE TIME:

I LOVE watching Chef Gordon Ramsey. If Hells Kitchen isn't on then I can easily watch 2-3 hours of Kitchen Nightmares on the BBC in it's place. He is good TV. FOR FUCKS SAKE!


http://www.moonbattery.com/gordon-ramsay.jpg

Jimmy Zero
April 9th, 2009, 6:24 PM
Yeah he's pretty great. I love Kitchen Nightmares, but Hell's Kitchen can get pretty old after awhile.

Skiznilly
April 9th, 2009, 9:11 PM
Didn't want to put a piece of TV into the "movies that always make you well up" thread, but bloody hell, just watched the latest episode of House, being in Britain I was unaware of any commercials about the content of the episode and stuff like that and I can't remember if I've ever been so emotionally affected by a TV show. I'd just heard that Kal Penn was off to work for Obama, but had no idea his character had already been killed off, so I settle down to watch a nice bit of "last chance to see Kutner in action", and all of a sudden, without warning, the most likeable character on the show's just committed suicide by blowing his brains out. Everything's fine and dandy, you think he's being a charming fella and caring for his dog, and the next thing you know 13 and Foreman are covered with his blood. I don't care if it was contrived or "A very special episode", it was as well done as anything I've ever watched. Just in terms of everyone's reactions, House being unable to cope at not having seen it coming, desperately trying to justify or redefine it, Taub trying to preserve his professionalism only to collapse at the end - and then everything being mirrored by Meat Loaf(!)'s case file, and the concept of how people could literally do anything for love. Bloody hell, I was just in tears throughout, and they're coming back watching this. If you've been following the show with any regularity over the last few years and weren't shaken by this all, you've got a heart of stone. Might even be amplified by the knowledge that Kal Penn left to do something quite noble and selfless, and then his character gets written out in the most brutal way possible. Anyone else saw it and react similarly?

KorruptJustice
April 9th, 2009, 11:37 PM
Picked up Season 1 of The Wire yesterday, figuring to finally give the show a shot. Watched the first couple of discs (first 5 episodes), and I'm really enjoying it so far, but I go to put in disc three...and there is no disc three. Bought it brand new from Best Buy, and it came missing a disc. Unbelievable. :mad:

Another show that I got to start watching before being forced to stop is Dead Like Me. I was sick at home Tuesday, so I pretty much spent the entire day watching that show off of my Xbox 360 through Netflix, only to find out that the last two episodes of the season are available only on disc. Still, a great show, and one that I'll probably pick up on DVD as soon as I get the chance.

Tyson
April 10th, 2009, 12:39 AM
He did it in front of his colleagues? Why? I missed it.

Pretty sure that it was the writers pissed off that he bailed so quickly.


Didn't want to put a piece of TV into the "movies that always make you well up" thread, but bloody hell, just watched the latest episode of House, being in Britain I was unaware of any commercials about the content of the episode and stuff like that and I can't remember if I've ever been so emotionally affected by a TV show. I'd just heard that Kal Penn was off to work for Obama, but had no idea his character had already been killed off, so I settle down to watch a nice bit of "last chance to see Kutner in action", and all of a sudden, without warning, the most likeable character on the show's just committed suicide by blowing his brains out. Everything's fine and dandy, you think he's being a charming fella and caring for his dog, and the next thing you know 13 and Foreman are covered with his blood. I don't care if it was contrived or "A very special episode", it was as well done as anything I've ever watched. Just in terms of everyone's reactions, House being unable to cope at not having seen it coming, desperately trying to justify or redefine it, Taub trying to preserve his professionalism only to collapse at the end - and then everything being mirrored by Meat Loaf(!)'s case file, and the concept of how people could literally do anything for love. Bloody hell, I was just in tears throughout, and they're coming back watching this. If you've been following the show with any regularity over the last few years and weren't shaken by this all, you've got a heart of stone. Might even be amplified by the knowledge that Kal Penn left to do something quite noble and selfless, and then his character gets written out in the most brutal way possible. Anyone else saw it and react similarly?

Zen
April 10th, 2009, 1:18 AM
Looks as though Viggo may be calling it quits acting wise. And that sucks ass.

Skiznilly
April 10th, 2009, 6:36 AM
He did it in front of his colleagues? Why? I missed it.

Pretty sure that it was the writers pissed off that he bailed so quickly.

Nah, he didn't do it in front of them, I must have phrased that badly: basically it started off with the team in House's office, minus Kutner, he doesn't turn up after lunch so House orders 13 and Foreman to go spy on him and see if he's having an illicit liason or soemthing. Instead they find his body, call the ambulance, try CPR, get covered in his blood and realise he's dead. The "Why" part of the equation was one of the things that made it so crushing, because nobody had any idea at all (hence House trying to reposition it as a murder to absolve himself from any responsibility). Just brutal, brutal stuff. :nono:

IB
April 10th, 2009, 8:08 AM
Looks as though Viggo may be calling it quits acting wise. And that sucks ass.

What? Where did you hear this? :mad:

Hulkamaniac
April 10th, 2009, 11:13 AM
I dont think that its so much that he's quitting movies. More just that he has decided not to say yes to any unless he really wants to. He seems to be getting a bit sick of the whole publicity trail, which he's never particularly enjoyed. He has recently said that he'd be interested in doing The Hobbit movie and also the Eastern Promises sequel, so I doubt that he's exactly in retirement.

Interestingly, when look around about this matter I found a few things that I had somehow seemed to miss, I have no idea how, I must've been busy.

Apparently at the latest Empire Awards Russell Crowe was due to win an award for 'Actor of our lifetime' and it seems was being a bit of a diva prick as he is prone to do. He refused to attend the award, instead blowing up, leaving his limo running outside, demanded that he be presented with his award there and then (despite the running order of the show) and then left straight afterwards, no sticking around whatsoever. His acceptance speech was an awfully self-indulgent and utterly shit poem. You can see the shitness of it here:

http://www.empireonline.com/awards2009/winners/actor-of-our-lifetime.asp

James McAvoy (who also won an award that night) made a gag about it in his acceptance speech, which you can see here:

http://www.empireonline.com/awards2009/winners/sci-fi-superhero.asp

Whereas Viggo Mortensen, who was SMASHED (and who also writes published poetry), won the award for 'Empire Icon' and gave one of the great drunken speeches (which sadly the video I'm posting cut a little off) going into great lengths of mockery about Crowe and his behaviour in his acceptance speech which you can see here:

http://www.empireonline.com/awards2009/winners/empire-icon.asp


You've got to love Viggo.

IB
April 10th, 2009, 11:16 AM
Nothing wrong with being selective. Look at Cuba Gooding, Jr. He went from heralded up and comer and Oscar Winner to straight to DVD release joke...Because he refused to say NO to anything!

Cue Daddy Day Camp & Boat Trip references.

Pete Cash
April 10th, 2009, 11:17 AM
Yeah I hear his fanboys like yourself rate him quite highly?? Is it true that fanboys rate the things they are fans of quite highly mik??

Hulkamaniac
April 10th, 2009, 11:22 AM
Yeah I hear his fanboys like yourself rate him quite highly?? Is it true that fanboys rate the things they are fans of quite highly mik??

I'm not sure what you are getting at.

Guy
April 10th, 2009, 11:34 AM
The insistent pandering to anyone in your avatar.

I think it's rather quite cute though

Ringo
April 10th, 2009, 11:36 AM
"insistent pandering"? Hardly. He rates those actors highly and so gives them praise when he feels it's due. I haven't really noticed him doing it when it's not relevant to the topic at hand...

Hulkamaniac
April 10th, 2009, 11:44 AM
The insistent pandering to anyone in your avatar.

I think it's rather quite cute though

Nah, you dont get it mate. Me and Cash were having a spiraling discussion that came from a different thread and you werent involved, therefore I dont need you explaining something to me that you arent aware of.

I am a Crowe fan. I do like his acting. However I pretty much just gave the details of what happened in that instance.

Guy
April 10th, 2009, 12:01 PM
Nah, you dont get it mate. Me and Cash were having a spiraling discussion that came from a different thread and you werent involved, therefore I dont need you explaining something to me that you arent aware of.

I am a Crowe fan. I do like his acting. However I pretty much just gave the details of what happened in that instance.

I was making an assumption based on what the post looked like in the context of this thread.

And the fact that you weren't "Sure what he was getting at" would lead me to believe you DID need something explaining, and that Cash's comment wasn't involved with a prior discussion.





But you do pander a little though

Hulkamaniac
April 10th, 2009, 12:06 PM
Unfortunately for you I DID know what he was getting at and it WAS a prior discussion. Unlucky for you as you have, as usual, made a bad choice.

There was no pandering in my post whatsoever. McAvoy was at the awards, Mortensen were at the awards, both of them made public comments on Crowe's behaviour because both of them won awards and gave speeches. So did Paul Greengrass too, but his speech wasnt available on their site because he was giving an award and not receiving one.

Guy
April 10th, 2009, 12:24 PM
It seems I'm not entirely of the mark here.

I see that your prior discussion in the books thread, is about the argument you made that fan boys overrate the things they are fans of (though that's not really an argument). And in here Cash has decided to take the piss because of you BEING a Viggo fanboy and rating Viggo highly because of it.

So Cash was indeed taking the piss because of you, out of all people, commenting on people's love filled pandering to their fanboyisms.

Hulkamaniac
April 10th, 2009, 12:28 PM
I assume that Pete Cash got it really and is just pretending that he didnt to fuel his apparent rage. Whereas you simply dont get it, you dont get anything.

Me and Pete can banter. You dont seem to have any intelligence to enable you to banter.

Guy
April 10th, 2009, 12:39 PM
By the way it reads, Cash's replies come off thinking that you're serious. The fact that he's actually trying to explain your own (joke) argument to you...

It seems that you've baited him in more than bantering, to the point where he's going to re-read that conversation back and go "oh, nevermind"

Hulkamaniac
April 10th, 2009, 12:40 PM
Then I have one victory over you and one victory over him. I am on a roll.

Beefy
April 10th, 2009, 1:02 PM
:eek: The 'fun' of it!

Watching them all the first time was a chore enough as it is (not that they aren't great, they just require so much effort)

I read this post before I read what it was that you were referring to. 24 would have been just about the last thing I'd have guessed. I find it to be one of the most re-watchable (if that's a word) shows there is.

Guy
April 10th, 2009, 1:08 PM
I read this post before I read what it was that you were referring to. 24 would have been just about the last thing I'd have guessed. I find it to be one of the most re-watchable (if that's a word) shows there is.

Hmm.

I've only just finished them really (as of a week and a half ago) and I would love to go back and revisit seasons and watch them again, because I did enjoy them.

BUT!

It's suuuuch an effort. I don't think I've ever watched ANY American TV show season from start to finish more than once (with there being 20+ episodes a season). I don't think I could start with 24, with it being an hour a show and very tense, stressful and actually quite tiring (if a show can be tiring).

Beefy
April 10th, 2009, 2:44 PM
I don't know. It obviously is tense and you'll never re-create the OMFGWTF reactions to certain events the second time around, but I find it to be an incredibly easy show to watch, mainly because to get the most out of it you have to switch your brain off and just go with it. If you think about the show too much then you end up picking at the numerous plot threads which are in every episode , particularly as the show has gone on.

I can stick a disk in and happily blitz through it, and then put another disk in and do the same. That's one of it's great charms.

Beefy
April 10th, 2009, 2:49 PM
Now The Wire - there's a show at the other end of the spectrum. Brilliant stuff but I don't think I've ever watched more than two episodes in a row and usually I have a good break between each season to recharge my batteries.

Each episode of 24 seems to me to be a very short 42 minutes as the plot rushes along at break-neck speed. The Wire is a long, emotionally-draining hour by contrast. A brilliantly scultured hour, but a long one.

Beer-Belly
April 10th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Anyone who likes The Foot Fist Way or Eastbound & Down will love Observe and Report.

Alf
April 11th, 2009, 6:34 AM
I'm watching the stand... so far pretty decent...

Alf
April 11th, 2009, 6:40 AM
I dont think that its so much that he's quitting movies. More just that he has decided not to say yes to any unless he really wants to. He seems to be getting a bit sick of the whole publicity trail, which he's never particularly enjoyed. He has recently said that he'd be interested in doing The Hobbit movie and also the Eastern Promises sequel, so I doubt that he's exactly in retirement.

Interestingly, when look around about this matter I found a few things that I had somehow seemed to miss, I have no idea how, I must've been busy.

Apparently at the latest Empire Awards Russell Crowe was due to win an award for 'Actor of our lifetime' and it seems was being a bit of a diva prick as he is prone to do. He refused to attend the award, instead blowing up, leaving his limo running outside, demanded that he be presented with his award there and then (despite the running order of the show) and then left straight afterwards, no sticking around whatsoever. His acceptance speech was an awfully self-indulgent and utterly shit poem. You can see the shitness of it here:

http://www.empireonline.com/awards2009/winners/actor-of-our-lifetime.asp

James McAvoy (who also won an award that night) made a gag about it in his acceptance speech, which you can see here:

http://www.empireonline.com/awards2009/winners/sci-fi-superhero.asp

Whereas Viggo Mortensen, who was SMASHED (and who also writes published poetry), won the award for 'Empire Icon' and gave one of the great drunken speeches (which sadly the video I'm posting cut a little off) going into great lengths of mockery about Crowe and his behaviour in his acceptance speech which you can see here:

http://www.empireonline.com/awards2009/winners/empire-icon.asp


You've got to love Viggo.

That is fantastic.

His warm hug with Boromir made a bit of sex wee come out.

Loving the fact McAvoy gave a Battlestar Galactica nod to Bamber...

Alf
April 11th, 2009, 6:50 AM
Molly Ringwald is fucking hideous.

Hulkamaniac
April 11th, 2009, 7:26 AM
I'm watching the stand... so far pretty decent...

I'll be honest, its not bad to watch. Its just such a disappointment really.


That is fantastic.

His warm hug with Boromir made a bit of sex wee come out.

Loving the fact McAvoy gave a Battlestar Galactica nod to Bamber...

Aye. McAvoy never seems to come off badly in anything that he does. Not films, not interviews, not awards speeches. Viggo is just a pure man through and through.


Molly Ringwald is fucking hideous.

Aye. Horrendous casting.

Ringo
April 11th, 2009, 7:29 AM
The Swedish bloke as Tom Cullen and Rob Lowe as Nick were perfect though. :heart:

Hulkamaniac
April 11th, 2009, 7:31 AM
Have you seen it recently? Rob Lowe as Nick Andros seems dreadful. Way too old and awkward. Same with the Swedish bloke as Tom Cullen although at least his acting is better. Tom is supposed to be beautiful.

Alf
April 11th, 2009, 7:40 AM
Yeah, to me Nick is a young scrawny teenager, not a twenty something pretty boy.

The mute kid out of Little Miss Sunshine would be an obvious but prfect casting decision.

I cannot remember Tom Cullen from the book at all...

Ah yes... M.O.O.N that spells Tom Cullen...

Ringo
April 11th, 2009, 7:43 AM
:eek:

I honestly found both to work just fine. Find that odd that you think Paul Dano would be perfect for the role. I really never saw Nick as being anything like him. Who do you think was cast well? Tom Cullen is great in the book. M - O - O - N.

Alf
April 11th, 2009, 7:44 AM
Gary Sinise is good casting, but then Stuart is the everyman of the story so is easy casting.

Hulkamaniac
April 11th, 2009, 8:03 AM
Yeah, to me Nick is a young scrawny teenager, not a twenty something pretty boy.

The mute kid out of Little Miss Sunshine would be an obvious but prfect casting decision.

I cannot remember Tom Cullen from the book at all...

Ah yes... M.O.O.N that spells Tom Cullen...

You couldnt forget who Tom Cullen was. You liar.


:eek:

I honestly found both to work just fine. Find that odd that you think Paul Dano would be perfect for the role. I really never saw Nick as being anything like him. Who do you think was cast well? Tom Cullen is great in the book. M - O - O - N.

Tom Cullen in the book was one of my favourite literary characters. I havent seen it all yet, so dont know how some of the characters are going to develop, but Stu Redman seems to be cast well. Ed Harris was good casting. Lloyd Henreid looks good casting. Trashcan Man looks good. Mother Abigail is good. Nadine Cross is okay although he character is a dreadful amalgamation of her and Rita. Randall Flagg isnt bad, his ridiculous hair is forgivable considering the time. Larry I'm undecided about, he's too coky and too 'Bronx' at the moment, I'll have to wait and see how he changes.

I think that someone like Emile Hirsch would do a good job with Nick Andros, or Cillian Murphy or James McAvoy, someone young, not physically impressive but with a will and determination that is evident through their actions.

For Tom Cullen, someone like Paul Bettany or Daniel Craig would do fine. Both big, both blonde with dazzling blue eyes, both good actors and both look decidedly younger than they are.

I also dont like how the TV show makes Frannie look like an absolute bitch and Harold perfectly right for being pissed off with her. She looks like a cock tease who was always whining, always messing him around and deserved what she got.

Ringo
April 11th, 2009, 3:27 PM
Spot on actually. I remember almost wanting to side with Harold initially, even though I'd read the book and knew what would end up happening. Really annoying she was. Sinise is far too cool for her.

By the way, how did you find the stuff with Campion at the beginning? I loved that whole sequence prior to Don't Fear The Reaper kicking in. Well done.

Guy
April 12th, 2009, 6:03 AM
Just to drop by to say thanks to those that suggested I watch Burn Notice.

I'm mid-way through Season 2 and it's a fantastic show. I felt after the 24 marathons that watching a more light and fluffy show probably wouldn't be a good idea as I'd be constantly trying to compare it, but it turns out that didn't happen at all.

The cast is great, it has a healthy dose of The Bruce (and lets be honest, everything should), the writing is pretty cool, the plots are always decent to watch unfold and all in all it's pretty harmless. You know that in the 40 minute running time, everything's probably going to be summed up, and sorted out, and all is well. And after intense 24, it makes refreshing change not worrying if one of the main cast is going to explode at some point.

When is Season 3 due?

Alf
April 12th, 2009, 6:58 AM
Spot on actually. I remember almost wanting to side with Harold initially, even though I'd read the book and knew what would end up happening. Really annoying she was. Sinise is far too cool for her.

By the way, how did you find the stuff with Campion at the beginning? I loved that whole sequence prior to Don't Fear The Reaper kicking in. Well done.

Personally I thought it was poorly acted and poorly directed for the most part. Too many lingering shots, and the establishing shots to show that there were pipes all over this little town didn't work very well, they'd have done better to do a traking shot along the ground...

That whole sequence was way too long and felt like they were padding it out. Then the don't fear the reaper bit took too long too...

I'm really enjoying this so far. I'm half way through the second part.

I think the casting of Randall Flag is bang on 100% brilliant. Flag turns up in a few other King books too and his character is pretty much King's ultimate medling baddie. The actor conveys his playfullness and also his evil with a single look. They must have shat themselves with glee when he walked in the casting room.

KorruptJustice
April 12th, 2009, 8:19 AM
Just to drop by to say thanks to those that suggested I watch Burn Notice.

I'm mid-way through Season 2 and it's a fantastic show. I felt after the 24 marathons that watching a more light and fluffy show probably wouldn't be a good idea as I'd be constantly trying to compare it, but it turns out that didn't happen at all.

The cast is great, it has a healthy dose of The Bruce (and lets be honest, everything should), the writing is pretty cool, the plots are always decent to watch unfold and all in all it's pretty harmless. You know that in the 40 minute running time, everything's probably going to be summed up, and sorted out, and all is well. And after intense 24, it makes refreshing change not worrying if one of the main cast is going to explode at some point.

When is Season 3 due?

Season 3 doesn't start until this summer. June, I think. :(

I'm glad to see another fan of this show, which is probably one of my favorites that's on the air right now. It's not going to win any awards or anything, but it's just a really fun show to watch. Campbell's character is great, and the rest of the cast is good too. Even Michael's mother, who I found really annoying in the first season, is much better now.

Alf
April 12th, 2009, 9:48 AM
Tom Cullen is immense in this.

I like his casting a lot.

Aussie_Outlaw
April 12th, 2009, 10:12 AM
Season 3 doesn't start until this summer. June, I think. :(

I'm glad to see another fan of this show, which is probably one of my favorites that's on the air right now. It's not going to win any awards or anything, but it's just a really fun show to watch. Campbell's character is great, and the rest of the cast is good too. Even Michael's mother, who I found really annoying in the first season, is much better now.

Burn Notice is lovely and finds the perfect mix between episodic stories, major story arc, humour, drama & action with a lot of style... well it may be a little weak on drama.

Which to me can make it a much much more enjoyable show than something like The Wire which is good in it's own right, but can be completely boring television due to it putting too much emphasis on the story and not quite enough on making it enjoyable. Sure it's a wonderful story but that they don't find a balance can make it lose a lot of points when a show like Battlestar manages to make both enjoyable stories and a weighty, meaty strong long game.

Hulkamaniac
April 12th, 2009, 12:06 PM
Spot on actually. I remember almost wanting to side with Harold initially, even though I'd read the book and knew what would end up happening. Really annoying she was. Sinise is far too cool for her.

By the way, how did you find the stuff with Campion at the beginning? I loved that whole sequence prior to Don't Fear The Reaper kicking in. Well done.

I thought that it looked a bit like a dated cheesy tv sequence.


Personally I thought it was poorly acted and poorly directed for the most part. Too many lingering shots, and the establishing shots to show that there were pipes all over this little town didn't work very well, they'd have done better to do a traking shot along the ground...

That whole sequence was way too long and felt like they were padding it out. Then the don't fear the reaper bit took too long too...

I'm really enjoying this so far. I'm half way through the second part.

I think the casting of Randall Flag is bang on 100% brilliant. Flag turns up in a few other King books too and his character is pretty much King's ultimate medling baddie. The actor conveys his playfullness and also his evil with a single look. They must have shat themselves with glee when he walked in the casting room.


Tom Cullen is immense in this.

I like his casting a lot.

I'll have to persist with it like if you're enjoying it. I'll be about where you were when you made the post.

As always the thing that irritates me most is simply what they've missed out.