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Hulkamaniac
February 2nd, 2009, 7:06 PM
Wow, has this only just been leaked now? This was old news.

This kind of thing happens quite a lot on sets of films, particularly when people are 'in character', Bale has obviously got fucked off over something and has lost it at someone who by all reports was being incredibly shitty in their work when he was trying to be professional. Like I said, this thing happens very often, we just rarely ever heard about it. Bale is an angry fucker though, scary bastard when the time calls for it. Sounds like the DP kept answering back and smart mouthing him though, which was not a good idea considering Bale's state of mind.

Jimmy Zero
February 2nd, 2009, 7:16 PM
Yeah, sounds to me like Bale had every right to flip out on that guy if he kept wandering around not doing what he's supposed to be doing while they're filming the fucking movie.

That was an awesome rant, though.

Hulkamaniac
February 2nd, 2009, 7:25 PM
Just been over to IMDB and there is the usual backlash of people saying what an asshole he is, how there is no reason to ever speak to another human being like this etc etc.

From what I remember, the rumours of this came out around not long after Bale was 'arrested' for 'assaulting his mother', so its no surprise to see him stressed.

Most of the people crying about it seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding about the film industry in that this is not common place. George Clooney, Mr. Charm himself literally came to blows with David Russell on Three Kings, himself no shrinking violet. Klaus Kinski and Werner Herzog used to have spats that would dwarf this kind of argument, leading to Herzog literally threatening to have Kinski shot (and seriously too) by a local tribe at one point, yet they still went on to make more movies together.

Doesnt matter if Bale was 'under a lot of pressure' or 'was having a bad day'. He is a professional who is working with another professional who is making an arse of things that he should be able to do without fucking up and potentially costing a lot of money. Bale flips at him and the guy keeps flippantly answering back, causing Bale to continue to flip. He's mic'd up and the guy isnt, Bale isnt even shouting for most of it. His anger is impressive, but I've seen worse rants given to referees at my local 5-a-side game.

Barely anything has ever been said about Bale's temper before (other than the 'assault' claims and the director of this and many other films have said what a pleasure he is to work with. Mc. G even seems to be agreeing with him in this clip anyway.

I do love that he stayed in accent for most of the time too.

Guy
February 2nd, 2009, 7:26 PM
"I was looking at the light"

"Oooooooooooooo good how was it? Because it's FUCKING USELESS NOW"

http://botropolis.com/wp-content/uploads/terminator-salvation-still.jpg
BAAAAAAAAAARAGAGAGAGAGA!!!!

Morrison
February 2nd, 2009, 7:34 PM
I do love that he stayed in accent for most of the time too.


"I was looking at the light"

"Oooooooooooooo good how was it? Because it's FUCKING USELESS NOW"

http://botropolis.com/wp-content/uploads/terminator-salvation-still.jpg
BAAAAAAAAAARAGAGAGAGAGA!!!!

Holy crap, I've just had the strangest board deja vu...

Guy
February 2nd, 2009, 7:48 PM
I love Bale, but I'm not going to support that entire rant. I mean it makes sense for about half of it, but then when he tried to fight the guy, he comes off as a bit of a dick.

I've been on sets, it's 2am, the actors been at it all day, had to wait around for hours for people to set up the shot, had to wait around on set during the shots for the camera and lighting to move and be perfect. You think you're ready and the director isn't, then you think you're ready and the DOP isn't, then you think you're ready and you are, only to go through so many takes of the same thing, then during one take someone's jumping around in your field of vision trying to move a light and BOOM the actor can't take it anymore and goes nuts. Shooting off at the mouth "CAN WE FUCKING GET THIS DONE...."

Then it's not so much that they're pissed off at any particular person, just pissed off at the whole world for that moment and whomever pushed them gets the brunt of it. But like I said, the part where Bale insults him not being able to work with actors and the guy tries to defend himself for a second, followed by Bale trying to fight him is a bit prickish. Because at this point, it's Bale who is in the wrong by trying to take it physical, I mean he's literally just destroyed the guy in public.

Jimmy Zero
February 2nd, 2009, 7:51 PM
That's pretty presumptive, considering you can't hear virtually anything the other guy is saying.

Hulkamaniac
February 2nd, 2009, 7:55 PM
Haha, from the audio you've made out that Bale actually goes to try and fight the guy and has to get dragged away from him?


Dear me Blood.

Guy
February 2nd, 2009, 7:58 PM
You can hear enough at that point:

Offhand I believe Bale says something like "that's not being able to work with actors", at which point the DOP responds "No, that's called checking the lights for..."

Yea fair enough the guy talks back to him, but Bale did just give him an absoloute mouthful and it's a knee jerk response. At this point Bale should realise he's backing a guy into a corner and just quit with a "don't fucking do it again" or something.

There's no reason to try and fight a guy because of issues on a film set.

Hulkamaniac
February 2nd, 2009, 8:03 PM
Again, where is this evidence that Bale actually tried to engage him in phsyical conflict?

Guy
February 2nd, 2009, 8:05 PM
Haha, from the audio you've made out that Bale actually goes to try and fight the guy and has to get dragged away from him?


Dear me Blood.

You can hear Bale move when he says it, at the same time you can hear what I assume is the directed get up and make his way towards him going "Christian Christian Christian". You can tell he does something in the strain in his voice.

And regardless of whether he did move or not it's a threat. The guy apologises for the first two minutes of the clip, and Bale continues on him. Bale asks for his wardrobe or something to be clipped back on, the DP gets the wardrobe guy and Bale CONTINUES on him, even though the guy has apologised ten-fold.

Hulkamaniac
February 2nd, 2009, 8:08 PM
You're doing a hell of a lot of assuming and interpreting from a 3 minute audio track there mate.

Ringo
February 2nd, 2009, 8:10 PM
Klaus Kinski and Werner Herzog used to have spats that would dwarf this kind of argument, leading to Herzog literally threatening to have Kinski shot (and seriously too) by a local tribe at one point, yet they still went on to make more movies together.

Talking of Herzog, they're doing a Herzog season on BBC Four at the moment and the other night, before Nosferatu, they showed an interview with Kermode from the Culture Show a couple of years back. They were talking about Herzog being shot at in the past and just before the interview began he'd been shot at with an air rifle :lol:

He got up, showed the wound to the camera, and just carried on with the interview. Brilliant.


German director Werner Herzog was shot by a crazed fan during a recent interview with the BBC.

The 63-year-old was chatting with movie journalist Mark Kermode about his documentary Grizzly Man, when a sniper opened fire with an air rifle.

Kermode explains, "I thought a firecracker had gone off.

"Herzog, as if it was the most normal thing in the world, said, 'Oh, someone is shooting at us. We must go.'

"He had a bruise the size of a snooker ball, with a hole in. He just carried on with the interview while bleeding quietly in his boxer shorts."

An unrepentant Herzog insisted, "It was not a significant bullet. I am not afraid."

"Oh, someone is shooting at us. We must go." :lol:

I fucking love him.

Hulkamaniac
February 2nd, 2009, 8:11 PM
I'll never forget the quote 'It was not a significant bullet'.

Someone needs to make a film about Herzog, he's as mad as a hatter.

Jimmy Zero
February 2nd, 2009, 8:14 PM
That movie Even Dwarves Started Small is one creepy fucking thing.

Ringo
February 2nd, 2009, 8:15 PM
He should make one about himself. Have you seen My Best Friend? Epic.

Guy
February 2nd, 2009, 8:16 PM
You're doing a hell of a lot of assuming and interpreting from a 3 minute audio track there mate.

Aye I am.

Mainly because I love Bale as much as the next guy, but he comes of a bit prickish in the latter part of that audio.

And you can hear him move in the audio, you can here an object move, his voice starts straining as he moves (whether it's a couple of steps or whatever) and you hear the director suddenly jump in with Christian, christian, christian.

Like I said, I totally understand the first half of it, but even if that isn't what's happening, even if a bin just fell over in the background and the director decided to randomly jump in at that point, the second half from the wardrobe fixing onwards, is totally unnessacery, especially threatening the guy in anyway

Hulkamaniac
February 2nd, 2009, 8:19 PM
In the very first part of the video Bale threatens to the guy 'I'll kick your fucking ass'.

Its obvious he's not going to kick his arse, he's just blowing off steam. Whats the problem?

Fro
February 2nd, 2009, 8:23 PM
Sounds like the DP kept answering back and smart mouthing him


You're doing a hell of a lot of assuming and interpreting from a 3 minute audio track there mate.

As are you. From what we can hear, the guy was apologetic at first, and after Bale continues to yell at him he says a couple things in his own defense. I wouldn't call it smart mouthing.

Jimmy Zero
February 2nd, 2009, 8:27 PM
As are you. From what we can hear, the guy was apologetic at first, and after Bale continues to yell at him he says a couple things in his own defense. I wouldn't call it smart mouthing.

Yeah, but that's not as much of a leap as assuming that the sound of something moving is Bale being held back from kicking the fuck out of someone.

Guy
February 2nd, 2009, 8:30 PM
Yeah, but that's not as much of a leap as assuming that the sound of something moving is Bale being held back from kicking the fuck out of someone.

I never said anyone was holding him back.

I said the sudden strain in his voice was caused by some sort of movement, be it a couple of steps or whatever, add that with the bash of an object, the director jumping in all adds up to something dynamic happening right around the time Bale threatens the guy.

Even if Bale sas he's going to kick his ass and makes a couple of steps towards the guy, the intent to scare was there.

Fro
February 2nd, 2009, 8:37 PM
It definitely sounds like he takes a few steps towards the guy. We don't know for sure, but seriously, how do you guys not hear that?

PurePlayer
February 2nd, 2009, 11:56 PM
If someone who you are not friends with just goes off on you, how would you guys respond? I am sure you are going to defend yourself right? Bale deserved an ass kicking to be honest, and this is coming from a huge Bale fan.

Zen
February 2nd, 2009, 11:56 PM
Bale is just lucky he didnt reach his intended target.

Morrison
February 3rd, 2009, 12:00 AM
If someone who you are not friends with just goes off on you, how would you guys respond? I am sure you are going to defend yourself right? Bale deserved an ass kicking to be honest, and this is coming from a huge Bale fan.

If I was in the wrong, and was in fact distracting the highly paid star of the movie that's being filmed, I wouldn't be defending myself, no.

Bale deserved no such thing. We have a three minute audio clip, that doesn't even include the beginning of the argument. Nobody should be putting through any judgments on anybody involved, really.

PurePlayer
February 3rd, 2009, 12:03 AM
Very true. If that was the case I would agree with you. Like you said though, we don't know what happened outside those three minutes, and we really can't come up with a conclusion.

Cactus Lem
February 3rd, 2009, 1:41 PM
Talking of Herzog, they're doing a Herzog season on BBC Four at the moment and the other night, before Nosferatu, they showed an interview with Kermode from the Culture Show a couple of years back. They were talking about Herzog being shot at in the past and just before the interview began he'd been shot at with an air rifle :lol:

He got up, showed the wound to the camera, and just carried on with the interview. Brilliant.



"Oh, someone is shooting at us. We must go." :lol:

I fucking love him.

Fuck. I'm annoyed I'm missing this.

Could they not have done it a month earlier? I'd have been all over this.

Beer-Belly
February 3rd, 2009, 5:22 PM
You're doing a hell of a lot of assuming and interpreting from a 3 minute audio track there mate.

None of these bloggers and "insiders" have the full context for this situation.

Cactus Lem
February 3rd, 2009, 6:37 PM
Get to work today, not much on after a hectic first few days, so I think I've got a whole day to try and watch some of the DVD screeners we have in. I was planning on Benjamin Button and then Revolutionary Road.

Go to my supervisor ask for them, sent back this morning along with Doubt, Frost/Nixon, Burn After Reading, Vicky, Cristina Barcelona and Gran Torino. So more or less everything I wanted to watch. Blah....

Ended up watching Of Time and City, which I've got to say is a cracking piece of work. Obviously not up everyone's street, but it's very intelligent, nicely structured, and Terrence Davies commentary throughout the film is brilliant. Touching at times, funny at others, while you really feel for the guy's life. Interesting film that if you really think you'd enjoy it, I'd say track it down.

Was going to watch Happy Go Lucky as well, but I spent ages trying to get it to work in my laptop and it just wouldn't budge.

Cactus Lem
February 3rd, 2009, 6:37 PM
Get to work today, not much on after a hectic first few days, so I think I've got a whole day to try and watch some of the DVD screeners we have in. I was planning on Benjamin Button and then Revolutionary Road.

Go to my supervisor ask for them, sent back this morning along with Doubt, Frost/Nixon, Burn After Reading, Vicky, Cristina Barcelona and Gran Torino. So more or less everything I wanted to watch. Blah....

Ended up watching Of Time and City, which I've got to say is a cracking piece of work. Obviously not up everyone's street, but it's very intelligent, nicely structured, and Terrence Davies commentary throughout the film is brilliant. Touching at times, funny at others, while you really feel for the guy's life. Interesting film that if you really think you'd enjoy it, I'd say track it down.

Was going to watch Happy Go Lucky as well, but I spent ages trying to get it to work in my laptop and it just wouldn't budge.

R Humphries
February 4th, 2009, 7:03 AM
I have been to a few message boards to see peoples reactions and there seems to be three groups:

1. Dark Knight fan boys that are sticking up for Bale, putting all the blame on the DOP and trying to play it down.

2. Non-Dark Knight fan boys who thinks Bale had a right to complain but went totally over the top and was out of order.

3. People like me who just found it very funny but felt sorry the poor DOP.

EdgeHead469
February 7th, 2009, 2:25 PM
Went and saw Taken last night. Minus the annoying ass teenage kids in the theater because of the PG13 rating; the movie was solid.

Very James Bond mixed with Bourne feeling but the emotion that Liam Neeson had throughout the movie was par none. Awesome.

I would recommend this for anyone to watch.

Cactus Lem
February 7th, 2009, 4:36 PM
I'm gonna go check out Che today.

A nice 4 hours and 15 minutes sat on my arse.

I steal cable
February 7th, 2009, 4:50 PM
Went and saw Taken last night. Minus the annoying ass teenage kids in the theater because of the PG13 rating; the movie was solid.

Very James Bond mixed with Bourne feeling but the emotion that Liam Neeson had throughout the movie was par none. Awesome.

I would recommend this for anyone to watch.

lol, I did a little mini review for this film, just found it...


Watched that a while back.

The action is shit, it tries to be like Bourne and fails spectacularly. The storyline is beyond a joke and the stereotyping is just.... wow.

That being said I'd recommend it for anyone to watch. It's bloody hilarious. You'll be laughing at everything from Liam Neelson being horribly miscast to the clunky shitty dialogue.

SACREBLEU!

I still recommend people to watch it.

Organasm
February 8th, 2009, 8:14 AM
Casting Holly Valance as a mega-successful pop star was the funniest thing in that movie.

Hobbit
February 8th, 2009, 8:53 AM
Taken was superb, one of best films I've seen over the past few months. It's just pure entertainment akin to Commando, I thought it was pretty tongue in cheek and as 'Organasm' just said Holly Valance playing the pop singer was amusing, seeing as she's shit at both acting and singing.

Best bit for me was when Neeson is chasing the French guy near the start and he jumps off the motorway bridge and doesn't see the articulated lorry in time :lol:

Maggie Grace's ( :freak: ) apparent disregard for her friend who died was also ridiculous to the extent where it was just funny. Good film, get it seen people.

I watched SEX DRIVE last night and it was very good. I went into it with low expectations and very much fuelled with booze so maybe I enjoyed it more that way but it had lots of LOL moments and some good tits. Was the band Fall Out Boy? What a joke band they are, awful.

The main lad's bird was :eek:

Organasm
February 8th, 2009, 3:30 PM
The Escapist

A shockingly well done film, the antidote to the feeling I got when I realized it was an Irish film, which don't have a good rep. Ask the Irish! At least this one's got Brian Cox, Damien Lewis and Joseph Fiennes to carry it.
A bit different from your usual escape film as they have both the build-up to the escape and the escape itself run in parallel timelines and switch between them when appropriate. Very easy to get into and understand in spite of zagging back and forth. Should probably watch it with a decent sound set-up as it uses alot of background music to drive it along.


Even though it's twist is getting pretty common they still pull it off pretty well. LOL at them trying to achieve the Canary Wharf effect in Charing Cross.

EDIT:
While I'm on UK films I thought I'd bring the negativity and mention London To Brighton. I actually enjoyed the Q&A segment in the bonus features more than the actual film. Complete ball-licking answers to the usual questions too.
Q: Would 1,000,000 have made this a better film.
A: No Way!

It tries to achieve some gritty and shocking film but all the little details are a bit too clean and Hollywood movie-like, such as;
Trying to convince a 12 year old to fuck an adult for 100 in a busy cafe
Despite being destitute for 2 days Joanne looks spotless
Johnny Harris overplaying his bad guy role to comedic effect which totally botches any attempt at gritty realism, by the Q&A he thought he was being a bit OTT but the director was 'THIS IS AWESOME'.

The director went on to do The Cottage. Ha.

Ringo
February 8th, 2009, 4:18 PM
I quite liked London To Brighton to be honest. Talk about bleak.

Anyway Slumdog wins the BAFTAs for Score and Sound.

Production Design coming up...

Goes to Benjamin Button.

Slumdog picks up two more. Cinematography and Screenplay. That's 4 out of 5 they've won thus far.

Thirteen
February 8th, 2009, 4:37 PM
I was stuck with both my wife and my sister-in-law this weekend, so I was subjected to two movies I normally wouldn't have watched.

The Uninvited
I actually had some hope that this would be ok, liking Elizabeth Banks, and really looking forward to seeing her as a bad girl. However, this was a bad movie. While there were one or two moments that made some of the teenage girls that were in the audience (including my sister-in-law) jump, overall, this was a movie that was desperately trying to "shock" the audience with a twist or two, that while they set it up, also at the same time, sent out so many red herrings that it made the movie make little sense when it came time to explain stuff, and it made the movie even worse than it actually was. There were also some downright laughable acting scenes as well.

Don't go see it. Simple as that. It's really that bad.


The House Bunny
Watched this on Demand ppv. And while I would not say it was one of the great comedies of the year, it had some very humorous moments that got me to laugh, and overall, it was worth the watch. It doesn't take itself too serious, and Anna Ferris plays a dumb blonde great. I'm glad we didn't go see it at the theater, but on ppv, it was worth the money spent. I would give it a rent if ya'll want some light hearted humor one night.

Ringo
February 8th, 2009, 4:49 PM
In Bruges won best original screenplay :yes:

Gleeson apologised to the residents of Bruges and said it isn't really a shithole.

Hobbit
February 8th, 2009, 5:38 PM
Great to see Slumdog get absolutely spunked on, top top film and comfortably better than its peers in the nominations the ones that i've seen :yes: And Danny Boyle is a legend.

Kate Winslet best actress :freak: oh well at least it wasn't Angelina 'WHERES MY SONx1000' Jolie.

DEV TO WIN BEST ACTOR PLZ as I aint seen Marv in The Wrestler :$

edit - oh well, from what I've seen of the Rourke in that he looks immense.

Ringo
February 8th, 2009, 5:42 PM
ROURKE WINS ROURKE WINS

Amazing. Emotional :(

Hobbit
February 8th, 2009, 5:47 PM
YUSSS DANNY and freida :D

Organasm
February 8th, 2009, 7:32 PM
I quite liked London To Brighton to be honest. Talk about bleak. Not really, seemed to be the director's intent but he was clearly to clueless to make it work. Everyone who made it to the end wound up looking pretty good or the same as they were beforehand. It's just a rather flat story with a few bumps along the way using 'Fractured narrative' to make it look more interesting than it actually is.
The complete opposite of The Escapist where the story wouldn't work without the technique.

foleybumps
February 8th, 2009, 9:38 PM
I'm watching the Grammy's right now and I think I actually love Carrie Underwood.

House of Pancakes
February 10th, 2009, 3:44 AM
I caught up on a bunch of movies from this year. The only one I really want to see but still have not is Man on Wire. That said, here is my top ten for 2008. This list has no order except for the first and probably the second.

SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK
-- This, to me, would be each number on the list, if I could. It's my favorite movie of all-time and I consider it a pinnacle of modern art. I could go on about this movie forever, but it is the best display of the human condition that I have ever seen. Never before have I witnessed a movie so all-encompassing and all-intertwining, so rich and alive.

WALL-E
-- I have always loved Pixar movies, WALL-E is another contender for their best. It's funny, heart-warming, adventurous, engaging, and visually gorgeous. This is one of those movies I will never understand somebody at least not enjoying themselves watching it.

THE WRESTLER
-- People have been saying the entire movie is Rourke's performance, which I can understand the argument for. But I feel like the writing and directing really gave Rourke something special to work with, and they bounced off of each other. It was a really interesting way to look at the lives of these wrestlers who are so often ridiculed. It's a sympathetic look at an extremely memorable character, and Aronofsky's close documentary style give the movie an extra intimacy.

THE DARK KNIGHT
-- I think it's quite clearly a landmark film in the realm of the blockbuster because of it's unusually dark and psychological subject matter. I think it's explosive and entertaining with a wonderful portrayal of one of the all-time great villains. I really like it.

LET THE RIGHT ONE IN
-- Even though people were saying it wasn't a horror film, it was less of a horror film than I'd thought. It really has nothing to do with the typical vampire movie. It's a love story between two people where one of them happens to be a vampire. The cinematography really stood out to me, portraying the bleak, cold, icy Swedish winter. It's very carefully shot, and the ending is so terrific and out of nowhere.

THE VISITOR
-- I recently saw this and really liked it. It's a very strong and emotional story. The ensemble acting is excellent, and the characters are all so different but equally likeable. The final scene caught me off guard and I was very pleasantly surprised. Consider this a very overlooked film of this year.

WALTZ WITH BASHIR
--Finally got a chance to watch this the other night. Aside from a few directorial decisions that I felt took me out of the movie, I thought this was fascinating and wonderful to watch. It feels like a documentary, and the real footage at the end was extremely effective. The main character spends the whole movie trying to spark the memory that most hit him during his time in the war and we get to truly see it, and feel that intensity as the main character fully remembers it.

ENCOUNTERS AT THE END OF THE WORLD
-- I don't do too much documentary-watching, but this, to me, had everything a documentary should. Vast and beautiful image montages of Antarctica, interesting historical facts and insight on what laborers do in such a barren place, and Werner Herzog's quirky sense of humor and unpredictability. It's very different from any documentary I've ever seen, and it's because you never know where Herzog is gonna go next, but it's always satisfying.

IN BRUGES
-- Good story with good characters and solid acting. The cinematography makes it feel like a play (I know, it is a play, essentially), and it has a nice mix of everything.

THE WACKNESS
-- I can see this as a movie people either love or hate. I'm kind of a sucker for those era coming-of-age films, and I also really like the risky shots the director took with it. Luke is a really likeable character and Ben Kingsley's character is pretty layered and well put-together. I was smiling through the whole thing. And it has the best title card of the entire year.

Ringo
February 10th, 2009, 8:39 AM
The best thing about In Bruges is the fact that it's fucking hilarious.

EdgeHead469
February 10th, 2009, 9:25 AM
I'm watching the Grammy's right now and I think I actually love Carrie Underwood.

:yes:

Organasm
February 10th, 2009, 5:46 PM
Nice post HOP, I've got my eye on a few of those to see next so it was pretty helpful.
Though I disagree with the thought on Waltz With Bashir, I had a 5 hour gap between lectures to kill so I caught it today. I really didn't like the way it played out, with the conversation scenes (In animated form, woo!) slowing the movie now alot. I started yawning and playing with my hat towards the end so I probably missed the moment of impact, it'd just lost my attention by that point.
On the positive side, when the film is good, it's really good.

Cactus Lem
February 10th, 2009, 7:32 PM
Yeah I think Waltz With Bashir has been hugely overrated due to it's originality stylisticaly, an originality that to me got boring after about 10 minutes.

House of Pancakes
February 10th, 2009, 7:36 PM
Well, I think it missed in certain areas, as I said. I thought some of the music was jarring and out-of-place, and the porn scene was a little strange and unpleasant.

Having said that, I thought Folman really made an effective little film. It has interesting stories and it's quite gorgeous visually, and, as I mentioned, the final scene makes the whole thing, because it's what we've spent the entire film looking for.

It wasn't as amazing as I thought it would be, but I still found it pretty engaging.

EdgeHead469
February 11th, 2009, 11:20 AM
I need some help. I am doing a research project on Violence in television sitcoms and I need to find the top 5 most viewed sitcoms. I went to Nielsen rating and they only list top 20 shows. Anyone have a recommendation. I need a reliable source. Not some website designed by a college kid in his dorm one night.

Thanks in advance.

IB
February 11th, 2009, 11:33 AM
Edge - This is from Entertainment Weekly website. I get the mag weekly and it shows the top 20 shows by rating. Hope this helps my friend.


http://www.ew.com/ew/news/charts/tv/toprated/0,,,00.html

Hobbit
February 11th, 2009, 11:49 AM
Since when were CSI, NCIS and House sitcoms? Dunno what The Mentalist is.

son_of_foley
February 11th, 2009, 11:52 AM
I have an odd sense of humour but even I don't think of CSI or NCIS as a sitcom. Nor house.

son_of_foley
February 11th, 2009, 11:53 AM
Hey hobbit why dont you nosh off

Hobbit
February 11th, 2009, 11:55 AM
Nice echo in here eh SOF you slut

IB
February 11th, 2009, 11:57 AM
sorry I just posted the first 5 things on the list that wasnt reality tv or sports (i.e. american idol and the superbowl)...For the actual top 5 just go to the link...

EDIT - BTW The Mentalist is the BEST new drama on tv. CBS Tuesday nights - The guy is like a freelance detective who works with the cops but isn't one...It's in the same vein asMedium.....with balls....and no premonitions.

MichaelC
February 11th, 2009, 12:00 PM
Sounds like a Poirot ripoff from that basic plot description you gave there! Heh.

son_of_foley
February 11th, 2009, 12:00 PM
Why not just take the nominees for best sitcom from some awards show.

IB
February 11th, 2009, 12:02 PM
It's hard to describe as most of the law and order type shows follow the same premise. Everyone needs to just watch it. Just note that it is the most highly regarded new series on TV. And also is the highest rated show of all the new series this season. Souce: Entertaiment Weekly

EdgeHead469
February 11th, 2009, 12:17 PM
Why not just take the nominees for best sitcom from some awards show.

Fucking genius idea. When was the last awards show for something like this? Fuck I should have thought of that. It would be perfect because they are the top rated by the professional critics.

Thank you sir. Much appreciation.

Hobbit
February 11th, 2009, 12:23 PM
When was the last awards show for something like this?

Erm, the Emmys? That's certainly the last one that people give a shit about, not some obscure Icelandic awards show honouring the same stuff.

IB
February 11th, 2009, 12:26 PM
violence and sitcoms ...Hmmm...That is one hard topic. When I think of sitcom I think Simpsons, 2 and a half Men, 30 Rock, Office...ect...Not violence. Good luck pal!

EdgeHead469
February 11th, 2009, 12:31 PM
violence and sitcoms ...Hmmm...That is one hard topic. When I think of sitcom I think Simpsons, 2 and a half Men, 30 Rock, Office...ect...Not violence. Good luck pal!

You would be surprised how much verbal violence there is in "Two and a Half Men", "The Office", etc. My paper focuses on Verbal violence, physical violence and object violence. It will be good once all said and done. Plus there is a lot of good research out there in sociological journals that debate and review this topic.

IB
February 11th, 2009, 1:38 PM
Here are a few suggestions:

1) Homer choking Bart
2) Michael Scott verbally abusing Toby (and most other without knowing it) on the Office
3) Sheldon verbally assaulting everyone for being inferior on Big Bang Theory
4) That episode of Family Guy where Stewie beat the fuck out of Brian when he owed him money.
5) Classic Looney Toon violence


Not as hard when as I previouisly thought when you open up the gates to verbal violence~!

Hulkamaniac
February 11th, 2009, 1:40 PM
Family Guys Peter vs Chicken violence too.

Alf
February 11th, 2009, 1:41 PM
Peter vs Chicken is brilliant.

IB
February 11th, 2009, 1:42 PM
Family Guys Peter vs Chicken violence too.



Might go down as one of the all time best on screen battles. Right behind Gargamel vs The Smurfs and right infront of Anakin vs Obi - Won.

Hulkamaniac
February 11th, 2009, 1:46 PM
It is interesting in its consequencelessness though.

Matt E
February 11th, 2009, 1:54 PM
Bottom is the obvious example I can think of with comedy and violence together. Blackadder/Fawlty Towers had plenty of verbal and at times physical violence. Not sure any of them would fall under most viewed though.

Organasm
February 11th, 2009, 3:09 PM
After Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns I read the first Preacher book 'Gone To Texas' which is ace and I'll continue with those and I just bought the first Y: The Last Man. Is there anything aside from those, comic book wise, that's considered a must-read/see?

I've heard good things about Sandman but it looks a little inaccessible from what I bothered to flick through whilst in store.

Organasm
February 11th, 2009, 3:09 PM
Cunting double post. I didn't really dig WALL-E that much. Once they hit space it turns into every other animated movie ever, with one character on a quest for what he loves surrounded by his rag-tag bunch of wacky mates, but this time they're one-dimensional~! I wouldn't even put it Pixar's top three.

Hulkamaniac
February 11th, 2009, 4:18 PM
I would. I'd possibly even put it top in terms of artistic quality.

Keano's Magic Hat
February 11th, 2009, 4:24 PM
Toy Story will always be number 1 for me :yes:

Ringo
February 11th, 2009, 4:25 PM
Wall-E. Toy Story. What would be the number three? :chin:

Oh probably Finding Nemo.

Hulkamaniac
February 11th, 2009, 4:35 PM
The Incredibles.

Ringo
February 11th, 2009, 4:38 PM
:lol: The Incredibles is rubbish.

Hulkamaniac
February 11th, 2009, 4:39 PM
No. Its 'Incredible'.

House of Pancakes
February 11th, 2009, 5:07 PM
I would. I'd possibly even put it top in terms of artistic quality.

Agreed.

It's so difficult to choose a best Pixar, though. They're all so amazing. Toy Story 2? Ratatouille? The Incredibles? Nemo? MONSTERS, INC.? Just one after another...

Beefy
February 11th, 2009, 5:27 PM
Toy Story will always be number 1 for me :yes:

Toy Story isn't even the best Toy Story film.

Organasm
February 11th, 2009, 6:02 PM
Monsters Inc. could have been made by Dreamworks for crying out fuck. Take character archetype and do the opposite with it (Monsters scared of children, I'm a genius!), then fillout time with a bunch of slapstick gags and krazee one-off gimmicks (The jelly who falls through the grill).

Randall who starts off with chameleon-like abilities but then just starts turning invisible because why the fuck not! Plants and explosions in space from WALL-E and the On/Off gravity from Nemo are equally annoying.
I know they're cartoons but at least have some bloody consistency, especially when the director is gushing about "realism" and how "organic" the story is on the commentaries.

Organasm
February 13th, 2009, 8:12 AM
Trailer for FIREBALL

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/?p=9768

*Drool*

Organasm
February 13th, 2009, 8:12 AM
FFS

Organasm
February 17th, 2009, 4:54 PM
Caught Hunger this week as my Tuesday Time Waster, very good but I started to drift off towards the end when it was just Sands in a bed wasting away.

I haven't seen a movie transition so smoothly from relaxed and slow to loud and intense this well since A Bittersweet Life. From silently watching as prisoners perfect a technique that allows them to pour their piss back in the hallways, to seeing the wardens throw people up against the wall and punch them in the face just for the sake of cleaning them and the satisfaction of punching someone in the face.

Most of the story and 95% of the movie's dialogue comes in that 'Longest talking scene ever' in the middle of the film. Done about as well as you could expect, felt like 12 minutes but supposedly more. Did a good job injecting some humour into the film as it's absent for the most part.

It did push it a bit with the amount of long takes used for seemingly no reason; Prison guard smoking a fag, prisoner sticking his hand out the window and playing with a fly take up the best part of a minute. Then there's a 3 minute one of a guy throwing blue fluid over the afore mentioned piss, then brushing the hallway, the entire fucking hallway.

Ha, despite the above when the movie is 'ON' it's fucking manly and violent.

See it? Yeah, it definately had a load of good stuff in it's 95 mins in spite of the faffing around, when Sands starts starving himself I guess you could just leave, or fast forward if your watching it by other means. Subtitles will be useful too.

son_of_foley
February 18th, 2009, 4:57 AM
Lads Don't laugh. I went to see Bolt 3D with the girlfriend, her idea. It was actually quite bloody funny and amazing in 3-d

OHH AN ICE-AGE 3 IS GOING TO GET A 3D RELEASE EAT THAT

son_of_foley
February 18th, 2009, 4:59 AM
Ratatouille and WALL-E are amazing

Fro
February 18th, 2009, 9:54 AM
Toy Story isn't even the best Toy Story film.

I've heard this a lot, that Toy Story 2 is better, but it's bullshit if you ask me. The first one is a classic. The second one is a good sequel but nothing amazing.

Personally I'd go:

1. Finding Nemo
2. Toy Story
3. The Incredibles

I steal cable
February 18th, 2009, 5:27 PM
My brother is in the other room watching Epic Movie.

All I can hear from him are the words 'FUCKING BOLLOCKS' and 'THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMEDY'

(he's watching it cause a few of his mates actually rate the movie and he needs to be in a position where he can tell them to fuck off)

it's actually quite funny, he's really getting angry in there

I steal cable
February 18th, 2009, 5:34 PM
he was just screaming "KILL THEM, KILL THEM"

I asked him what part of the film he's watching, he replied calmly "the credits"

Version 6
February 18th, 2009, 5:40 PM
Your brother is quite clearly psychotic.

Ace Rockola
February 18th, 2009, 5:45 PM
My brother is in the other room watching Epic Movie.

All I can hear from him are the words 'FUCKING BOLLOCKS' and 'THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMEDY'

(he's watching it cause a few of his mates actually rate the movie and he needs to be in a position where he can tell them to fuck off)

it's actually quite funny, he's really getting angry in there

I had a reaction quite like that when I had to tech it at the movie theater I used to work for. I got a bunch of co-workers to come watch it withe me and rip it to shreds. At one point the "jokes" got so bad I ended up spiking my clip board that I had to take notes on and almost walked out.

At the end I reminded all my co-workers that I was at least on the clock for this, their dumb asses watched it on their own free time.

Cactus Lem
February 18th, 2009, 6:19 PM
My brother is in the other room watching Epic Movie.

All I can hear from him are the words 'FUCKING BOLLOCKS' and 'THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMEDY'

(he's watching it cause a few of his mates actually rate the movie and he needs to be in a position where he can tell them to fuck off)

it's actually quite funny, he's really getting angry in there

My brother watche's Skins for those exact reasons. Apparently everyone at his college raves about how amazing it is, when well it really isn't.

Ringo
February 18th, 2009, 6:44 PM
The 3rd series of Skins might be the worst television show I've ever seen.

Well top 5.

Cactus Lem
February 18th, 2009, 6:57 PM
The 3rd series of Skins might be the worst television show I've ever seen.

Well top 5.

I've considered downloading it just to see how bad it is.

I think the majority of the second series is some of the worst TV I've ever seen. I think what makes it even worse is the fact that there was so much potential but the writers just seemed to blow their load and go for all the gimmicky shit, rather than concentrating in a foccused manner and developing the problems with certain characters as they did in the first series.

They did the whole storyline with Tony well, and Sid's Dad's death was easily the strongest part of the series, but everything else seemed so random and had very little substance to it. The whole series was just all over the place.

Ringo
February 18th, 2009, 7:05 PM
If you thought the second series was shit, then fucking hell mate. You might be physically sick if you watch the third.

Cactus Lem
February 18th, 2009, 7:14 PM
If you thought the second series was shit, then fucking hell mate. You might be physically sick if you watch the third.

I'm gonna download the first episode :)

Marlon Dingle
February 19th, 2009, 8:00 AM
The 3rd series of Skins might be the worst television show I've ever seen.

Well top 5.

I was a fan of the first two series', (did I ever mention I met Sid from Skins on holiday last year). So yeah tuned it to the first episode, watched that horrible scene were the main guy is pretending to be skating down a street, total shit, so haven't watched any of this series.

thegoat
February 19th, 2009, 9:39 AM
I'm gonna download the first episode :)

Unbelievably, it gets worse than that.

Aussie_Outlaw
February 19th, 2009, 9:52 AM
EDIT - BTW The Mentalist is the BEST new drama on tv. CBS Tuesday nights - The guy is like a freelance detective who works with the cops but isn't one...It's in the same vein asMedium.....with balls....and no premonitions.

As I saw it described a week ago.

The Mentalist = `Psych` - humour + smug.

Which to me sounds terrible.

Thirteen
February 19th, 2009, 10:07 AM
I will admit that I watched the season premier of The Mentalist, and it was actually pretty good, but I haven't watched another episode. I agree, it's the exact same premise as Psych, except a drama instead of a comedy. Then again, there's a lot of that going around lately: Trust Me is a modern take on Mad Men, accept not as good, which is a shame, because I like everyone in it, but I've given it 3-4 episodes, but it hasn't gotten any better, so I've stopped watching it.

Going back to animated, I absolutely loved Wall-E, and honestly would put it just below The Dark Knight as my favorite movie from 2008. And I'll be honest, I wasn't interested in it at first. My in-laws bought it and we watched it at Christmas time, and I was like, wow.

mth
February 19th, 2009, 2:00 PM
Just wondering if anyone else has seen Blindness and what you thought of it?
We just watched it a couple days ago, and I thought it was pretty interesting, but I'm not sure if I'd call it good. Read a pretty scathing review on imdb saying it was some of the actors' worst work, which I don't really agree with, as I feel the acting wasn't really one of the things I had a problem with.

Beer-Belly
February 19th, 2009, 7:09 PM
What is this Scott Pilgrim non-sense?

EdgeHead469
February 20th, 2009, 10:48 AM
Where is that thread of movies that were good the first half then blew the second half because; I just saw Pride and Glory and that movie kept me going for about an hour than they seemed like they just quit trying. The movie could have gone SO many way and been 10X better than what is was. I was disappointed.

Ace Rockola
February 21st, 2009, 10:52 PM
So, just how bad is Twighlight? I mean, I'm sure it's total shit. But I'm curious if it's something you could sit there and just make cracks at the screen the whole time. Cause my girlfriend and I are trying to make plans for later tonight and we're tempted to see this at the cheap second run theater and just rip it to shit.

One Man Gang
February 22nd, 2009, 12:52 AM
I've only really ripped into a movie twice before in a theater.

The first time was when I was tripping on shrooms and had drank a little and my friends and I went to see the Way of the Gun. There were about 3 other people in the theater if that and all I can remember was laughing at James Caan's nipples popping out of his shirt. That and he looked constipated.

The second time a friend of mine were fortunate to have the entire theater to ourselves and thus making fun of Red Planet was the only way to get past that movie.

Hulkamaniac
February 22nd, 2009, 8:22 AM
Dont go and see a film that you're just planning on ripping to shit. At the very least because there may be other people there who actually want to see it.

Ace Rockola
February 22nd, 2009, 2:38 PM
Dont go and see a film that you're just planning on ripping to shit. At the very least because there may be other people there who actually want to see it.

That's why we see iffy stuff at the cheap theater. All the people who are dying to see a movie saw it months ago, you go here when you know the movie won't be worth the $10. Shit, the projector/quality of the film that had been run for months at a previous theater are normally enough to annoy you to the point of leaving.

Plus, when we see a movie that might be like that we sit as far away from the crowd as possible and try our best to stay as quiet as possible. Not that it mattered last night for this pile of crap. Within the first 5 minutes the entire theater was getting belly laughs from stuff that wasn't funny for any reason other than the unwatchable acting. Christ, the most positive reaction the whole thing got was when a character mentioned it was the first Seattle Mariners game of the season and a couple people in the theater went, "wooo! Junior's back!"

The film is truely awful. There's really nothing good to say about it at all. Especially when it comes to the acting. The actors are all terrible. The main vampire guy at best comes off about as well as Hayden Christinsen's worst in the Star Wars films. And the stupid little twists they put on vampires got several loud groans from people in the theater. My favorite is when he steps in to direct sunlight and is going on about how it exposes him as the freak and monster he is, it really looks to have done nothing. It made him prespire more than a normal person maybe. But that was it. And the main female lead is one of the most annoying characters I've seen in film in quite sometime. It's a damn shame that girls all over actually look up to this helpless putz. I get the whole love at first sight thing, but Christ, you'd think that if this guy (who she all too quickly accepts as a vampire, not a second of thinking, "Jesus, if I even say this thought outloud they'll have me commited") were to leave her it would literally be the death of her. Not that she'd sit and cry for weeks, but it'd actually make her stop being able to breath and she'd die.

I get that 13 year olds no matter their gender have their horrible pandering crap that they all love and hopefully grow out of. For boys it's stuff like Vin Diesel movies, for girls it's this shit. All the socially akward and flat chested teenage girls would love to be this character. She's loved by everybody right off the bat and gets the cool rich guy without even trying, and on top of it, he's a fucking vampire who would eat her if he wasn't so damn in love with her. I've heard the broad who wrote these books has little to no talent, but damn does she know how to cater to her market. And you gotta at least take your hat off to her for that.

Aussie_Outlaw
February 22nd, 2009, 8:12 PM
The worst thing about Twilight is that some adults don't see anything wrong with Bella's behaviour/attitude which to me is downright scary as the girl is one of the dumbest (and most submissive) female characters in the history of fiction.

PurePlayer
February 22nd, 2009, 8:27 PM
Dont go and see a film that you're just planning on ripping to shit. At the very least because there may be other people there who actually want to see it.

I don't think I hate anything more than that no matter how bad the movie turns out to be. I just want to punch those people in the face.

Ace, I am glad to hear that you have the courtesy to do what you do. :yes:

Anyway, I just watched A Few Good Men today for the first time, and I thought it was pretty damn good. Everyone put in a good performance. That final court room scene gave me chills even though I knew it was coming.

I am going to see Lawrence of Arabia in the next couple days, and I noticed that the movie is very long. Is this movie going to be something that bores me to death? I know this movie is considered a classic and everything, but I saw 2001:A Spacey Odyssey a couple months ago, and I don't remember ever being more bored while watching a movie. I even thought the sequel was ten times better.

Guy
February 22nd, 2009, 8:56 PM
I just got through watching 'The Mist'.

I put it in expecting a cheapo, okish thriller/drama with the awesome Thomas Jane leading the way. Instead I got one of the best horror films Ive seen in a very fucking long time.

I was completely blown away

Vice
February 22nd, 2009, 9:02 PM
The Mist's ending is one of my favorites. Ever.

Guy
February 22nd, 2009, 9:06 PM
The Mist's ending is one of my favorites. Ever.

I died inside, I'm still not over it and I watched it half a day ago.

Hold me Vice :cry:

Ace Rockola
February 22nd, 2009, 9:14 PM
The worst thing about Twilight is that some adults don't see anything wrong with Bella's behaviour/attitude which to me is downright scary as the girl is one of the dumbest (and most submissive) female characters in the history of fiction.

Yeah, I think that was the part that I found the most offensive. Now obviously, she can't go toe to toe with vampires, so the damsel in distress thing as opposed to the ass kicking heroin act is fine and dandy for that part. But just look at how dumb she is. She can be outmatched in the physcial department, but how about making her just a little bit smarter than your average kid on the short bus. Also maybe don't be so sure to devote your ENTIRE future to someone you've known a matter of weeks. If my daughter was looking at that character as someone to look up to I'd be pretty fucking worried for her future.

I hear it gets even better (worse) the more the series moves on. As a fan of train wrecks, I can't wait.

Hulkamaniac
February 23rd, 2009, 4:56 AM
You Mist loving chaps ought to read The Road.

Pete Cash
February 23rd, 2009, 6:17 AM
Why does Edward Cullen go to highschool. Can anyone explain that. To be normal apparently, well why doesn't he fit in?

LOAD OF RUBBISH

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 8:30 AM
The Mist was fucking terrifying.

I love the fact that there is absolutely no reasoning with the creatures, they want to munch you and that's all there is to it.

I might get it on DVD actually.

The ending was fantastic.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 8:40 AM
I would like to see it in B&W like it was intended to be.

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 8:43 AM
Oh really? That's an interesting choice... any idea why? Did they want to give it a bit of a 50's b-movie look or something? I think that would be a bad choice.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 9:04 AM
I can only assume so yea.

I mean it IS a 50's B-movie/Twilight Zone movie (albeit a fucking awesome one), and I'd be intrigued to see it presented as such.

Also Thomas Jane needs bigger starring roles

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 9:08 AM
It's clearly not a 50's B movie Blood. Not with that level of violence.

I'm 150 million percent sure King didn't write it as a classic 50s monster flick.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 9:12 AM
I haven't read the original novella, and no I'm not saying that's its intent, but c'mon..

A film about a small American town under siege by monsters from a parallel dimension

It may have transcended what could've been B-movie schlock into a fantastic and dramatic horror film, but the comparisons are right there. Black and white would've just made that more apparent I feel

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 9:14 AM
You Mist loving chaps ought to read The Road.

Have you seen The Mist? Or have you just read the novella?

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 9:19 AM
I haven't read the original novella, and no I'm not saying that's its intent, but c'mon..

A film about a small American town under siege by monsters from a parallel dimension

It may have transcended what could've been B-movie schlock into a fantastic and dramatic horror film, but the comparisons are right there. Black and white would've just made that more apparent I feel

Granted... but B movies are generally light on extreme violence and usually have tongue in cheek elements.

I think making it black and white would have made a mockery of it. It would have 'lowered the tone' of the movie so to speak.

son_of_foley
February 23rd, 2009, 9:27 AM
I know IMDB is very useful but is Thomas Jane the bloke from The Punisher?

Hulkamaniac
February 23rd, 2009, 9:32 AM
The Mist was fucking terrifying.

I love the fact that there is absolutely no reasoning with the creatures, they want to munch you and that's all there is to it.

I might get it on DVD actually.

The ending was fantastic.

I've ordered The Stand on DVD. Pretty looking forward to it to be honest.


Have you seen The Mist? Or have you just read the novella?

I have seen it. I wouldnt say that it was a B movie styley, though it definitely did seem like a very good made for TV movie.

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 9:33 AM
I really want to see The Stand tv series thing. I remember when it was on TV but can barely remember anything other than the massive hand of god.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 9:48 AM
I know IMDB is very useful but is Thomas Jane the bloke from The Punisher?

Yes



I have seen it. I wouldnt say that it was a B movie styley, though it definitely did seem like a very good made for TV movie.

I'm sure it got theatrical release in the US....or was that just a comment on it's quality?

Hulkamaniac
February 23rd, 2009, 10:48 AM
I really want to see The Stand tv series thing. I remember when it was on TV but can barely remember anything other than the massive hand of god.

Its only 6 on Play. I should get it soon, I'm going to watch all 5 hours in one night.


Yes



I'm sure it got theatrical release in the US....or was that just a comment on it's quality?

I know it got theatrical release. I'm talking about the feel of the movie. I thoroughly enjoyed it though, but I'd say it was more 'Made for TV' than 'B Movie'.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 11:01 AM
Hmm, I dunno.

I don't like using the word B-movie, because it's great.

But it also reminds me a helluva lot of the original Night of the Living Dead...is that a B-movie? Originally sure, but it transcended the camp connotations of drive in movies at the time to become a classic in the horror genre.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 11:01 AM
Hmm, I dunno.

I don't like using the word B-movie, because it's great.

But it also reminds me a helluva lot of the original Night of the Living Dead...is that a B-movie? Originally sure, but it transcended the camp connotations of drive in movies at the time to become a classic in the horror genre.

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 11:45 AM
How was it like Night Of the Living dead?

We are talking about the same film aren't we?

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 12:07 PM
A film about a bunch of random people, trapped and contained in the confines of one building whilst deadly unknown creatures wait outside surrounding the building in order to eat them. The survivors try to get to their trucks a few times, only to lose members of their groups.

Inside there is massive conflict between the characters which leads to violence between them as they try to save their own lives in different ways. This leads to people killing each other on opposite sides of the argument.

Overall there is a uneasy feeling, one of almost complete hopelessness, and the ending is dark and terrible for our protagonist just as rescue arrives.

Throw in a healthy dose of blood and guts on top of that.

I'm not saying it's exactly the same, just that the scenario and overall feeling of the film reminded me a lot of Night of the Living Dead

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 12:07 PM
Double post-mania today

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 12:25 PM
Ah yes, I see what you mean.

N.E.R.F.
February 23rd, 2009, 2:44 PM
I've got The Stand DVD - it's good shit. Two three-hour discs - perfect for a lazy Sunday.

Hulkamaniac
February 23rd, 2009, 6:24 PM
Awesome.

PurePlayer
February 23rd, 2009, 6:31 PM
After watching the Awards last night, the mention of Kramer vs. Kramer made me add the flim to my Netflix. When I added it to the list, I realized that it was instant streaming. So I watched the movie last night, and I really liked it. Hoffman's performance was awesome and the supporting cast all chipped in some good performances. The way his character changed from the beginning of the movie to the end was also top notch. Definitely a movie I suggest watching if you haven't seen it yet.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 6:33 PM
I've got a toss up tonight between In Bruge and Taken. Opinions?

OR I finish the first season of 24

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 6:33 PM
what is with the boards tonight and all this double post/laggy madness?

N.E.R.F.
February 23rd, 2009, 6:36 PM
It's payday tomorrow and I'll probably find myself down Oxford Street around lunchtime-ish. Will almost definitely be buying The Mist, based on the fact it's a King adaptation and seemingly good things above. Want to get Taken but not if it's full price. The Wire season 3 as well if it's under 15, if not I'll get it off amazon instead.

Any other suggestions? You have until 6.30am. Go.

Ringo
February 23rd, 2009, 6:37 PM
I'd say watch In Bruges, but I've got a horrible feeling that you wouldn't get the humour.

Hulkamaniac
February 23rd, 2009, 6:39 PM
In Bruge....The Wire.

Alf
February 23rd, 2009, 7:01 PM
I watched Burn After Reading the other night, that was a mighty fine motion picture.

Ringo
February 23rd, 2009, 7:05 PM
I really want to see The Stand tv series thing. I remember when it was on TV but can barely remember anything other than the massive hand of god.

I've got it. I wouldn't say that it's necessarily "good", but the story is just so magnificent that I still very much enjoyed it. Some of the casting is great, some.. not so good. Gary Sinise as Stu, Rob Lowe as Nick, Ruby Dee as Mother Abigail and Bill Faggerbakke as Tom Cullen are all pretty much spot on with how I imagined them. Wouldn't criticise them at all. Same with the guy who plays Lloyd.

"Don't Fear The Reaper" plays when Campion leaves the base. That bit was brilliant.

Guy
February 23rd, 2009, 9:10 PM
Thoroughly enjoyed In Bruges, completely hilarious and, oddly, very moving.

One of the better "Redemptive assassin' movies, right up there with Grosse Pointe Blank

N.E.R.F.
February 24th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Ended up with The Mist and Spirited Away. I love me some Miyazaki.

mth
February 24th, 2009, 2:46 PM
So, yesterday, I found out Guillermo Del Toro is making a Frankenstein flick that's coming out around 2012.

Being a massive Frankenstein fan, I got (and still am) really freakin' excited about it, so much so that I made a thread last night, but then asked to have it deleted, since it's a bit silly to have a thread about a movie that's at least three years off still.

Anyway, from what I've gathered so far, it's not a retelling of the tale, but a new adventure with the creature, which could be pretty cool. I guess Del Toro's a pretty big Frankenstein fan, which has me hopeful he make something quality. I'd love if he styled the creature off Bernie Wrightson's illustrations.

I don't know if there's any more information about the flick out there besides what I just said, but needless to say, I'm crazy geeked and will be going out of my way to try and keep an eye on this project.

N.E.R.F.
February 24th, 2009, 7:55 PM
Fucking hell Thomas Jane, why did you do that? :(:(:(

Guy
February 25th, 2009, 8:49 AM
Fucking hell Thomas Jane, why did you do that? :(:(:(

I was actually depressed for an entire day :cry:

Fucking ace movie though right?

Just got through watching Taken, it was delightfully entertaining. Nothing new, nothing fancy, nothing...memorable...really, but a great little fight film with little to no reliance on CGI, which just made it more enjoyable.

son_of_foley
February 25th, 2009, 8:55 AM
Liam Neeson is immensely bad-ass in it

Guy
February 25th, 2009, 9:07 AM
He was channeling his inner Statham.

though I was quite disappointed that he never reached Darkman levels of madness

Marlon Dingle
February 25th, 2009, 9:42 AM
Taken is OK. Shame they couldn't find a 17 year old to play a 17 year old. Shannon from Lost to me seemed like a strange choice. If you watch it back her technique to pulling off a 17 year old, is just to run like a dork every where, no matter how far she has to go. It's really silly. Also the last scene is just not needed.

Guy
February 25th, 2009, 11:47 AM
Taken is OK. Shame they couldn't find a 17 year old to play a 17 year old. Shannon from Lost to me seemed like a strange choice. If you watch it back her technique to pulling off a 17 year old, is just to run like a dork every where, no matter how far she has to go. It's really silly. Also the last scene is just not needed.

Holly Valance is always needed

Hobbit
February 25th, 2009, 1:21 PM
Saw Death Race and The Escapist the last couple of days.

Death Race - was actually really entertaining once you turn your brain off and just enjoy it for what it is. Great action, awful plot, awful acting, a fair bit of gore, over the top everything and a bloody lovely bird (no, not the old woman from the Bourne films dickmops!), and of course Statham is always amazing. 6/10

The Escapist - I went into this expecting a fairly dialogue-heavy, plodding drama. Much was my surprise then that it was rather pacey, and Brian Cox was terrific once more. Can't be bothered to over-analyse it but I will say I enjoyed its twist and the ending was well done. It also had Damian Lewis in it so gets another few marks there by default. 8.248/10

N.E.R.F.
February 25th, 2009, 3:08 PM
I was actually thinking on a couple of occasions before the ending happened - "wouldn't it be fucked up if..." but I just limited that thought to my sadistic little mind. So when it actually happened - jesus. Crushed.

I went to bed almost fuming that King hasn't written as in depth a saga for that storyline as he did for the Dark Tower, I would love that to bits.


Two things The Mist needed - more tentacles and a bit of consistent atmospheric music. Apart from the last scene which was perfect it was silent in places and had background music in others. Just threw me a bit.

Hulkamaniac
February 25th, 2009, 4:26 PM
My DVD of 'The Stand' arrived today.

Keano's Magic Hat
February 25th, 2009, 4:35 PM
My DVD of 'The Stand' arrived today.

It's shite.

N.E.R.F.
February 25th, 2009, 4:44 PM
He's probably the greatest man alive.

Just reading up on some stuff on Wiki as you do - didn't even cross my mind that the mist could have been a thinny. The way the tentacle dissolved is the same as in From a Buick 8 - which now links that into the series as well. Or some of the monsters that were also in the Dark Tower. A movie/TV adaptation of the series would actually be my most looked forward to thing ever. The way he links everything together is just mindblowing.

Hulkamaniac
February 25th, 2009, 4:47 PM
It's shite.

Why would you do that?

Keano's Magic Hat
February 25th, 2009, 4:49 PM
Why would you do that?

Nah, I didn't like it. To be fair, I always thought the book to be extremely overated and a bit crappy so it's probably just me.

Hobbit
February 25th, 2009, 4:49 PM
The Mist was alright, but the special effects on the monsters were just rubbish and the ultra-religious woman is one of the most annoying characters in a film ever, so annoying that she wasn't even entertaining. I enjoyed the first 20 minutes or so of the film until the monsters turned up, then of course the end which was so depressing it was amusing.

Hulkamaniac
February 25th, 2009, 4:51 PM
Nah, I didn't like it. To be fair, I always thought the book to be extremely overated and a bit crappy so it's probably just me.

Ahhhh, thats okay then cos I thoroughly enjoyed the book.

Keano's Magic Hat
February 25th, 2009, 4:53 PM
Top 3 adaptations of King novels? In order (best being number 1), I'll go for:

1. Carrie
2. The Green Mile
3. The Shining

N.E.R.F.
February 25th, 2009, 4:56 PM
Misery
Dreamcatcher ;)
Green Mile

Keano's Magic Hat
February 25th, 2009, 5:00 PM
Misery scared the fuck outta me as a child. Bloody hell, still scared now. Dreamcatcher was dodgy.

N.E.R.F.
February 25th, 2009, 5:07 PM
I always liked the film of Dolores Claiborne too - John C Reilly in a non-comedy role :D

Shawshank? Stand By Me? IT ffs?

The Running Man was pretty brilliant too but a tenuous adaptation to say the least.

Keano's Magic Hat
February 25th, 2009, 5:12 PM
Finished reading Ulysses earlier this week and am interested in watching a film adaptation just to see how they could even make it possible. Anyone seen one?

Also, only just realised that there's an adaptation of 'Lolita' that wasn't directed by Kubrick :eek: Stars Jeremy Irons who I quite like. Although I do enjoy Kubrick's version it was hampered by some ridiculous restrictions. Anybody seen the more recent one? How does it compare?

Keano's Magic Hat
February 25th, 2009, 5:13 PM
I always liked the film of Dolores Claiborne too - John C Reilly in a non-comedy role :D

Shawshank? Stand By Me? IT ffs?

The Running Man was pretty brilliant too but a tenuous adaptation to say the least.

Fuck me, how did I forgot Shawshank, what a cunt I am.

1. Shawshank Redemption
2. Carrie
3. The Green Mile

Ringo
February 25th, 2009, 9:13 PM
The Stand is amazing. Easily King's best, and I'm a fan of quite a lot of his stuff. It's EPIC.


Finished reading Ulysses earlier this week and am interested in watching a film adaptation just to see how they could even make it possible.

So did I actually. It's monstrous.

Keano's Magic Hat
February 26th, 2009, 6:47 AM
So did I actually. It's monstrous.

It's a ridiculous read, actually began reading it about 2 years ago atop the Guiness factory in Dublin where I was completely pissed. Read the beginning and didn't touch it again for 22 months or so :D

Marlon Dingle
February 27th, 2009, 8:38 AM
I've had Burn After Reading as my top priority film on Lovefilm now for two weeks and it still hasnt come, because its the only high priority one they just sent me a mid-level one which was Hostel- Part II, fucksakes lads.

I watched The Mist the other night after you guys raving about it. Have to say I wasn't that impressed, it was good on level of horror films but I think the end took the piss. Like he hardly even waited a second to think about what he was doing. I have to say it did shock me but I was watching it with the girlfriend and I asked "how funny would it be if it was the army that show up in their Bio-hazard suits, right now?" I couldn't decide either whether the acting was really good or really bad. I give it 3 thumbs. :yes::yes::yes:

Guy
February 27th, 2009, 9:11 AM
I've had Burn After Reading as my top priority film on Lovefilm now for two weeks and it still hasnt come, because its the only high priority one they just sent me a mid-level one which was Hostel- Part II, fucksakes lads.

I watched The Mist the other night after you guys raving about it. Have to say I wasn't that impressed, it was good on level of horror films but I think the end took the piss. Like he hardly even waited a second to think about what he was doing. I have to say it did shock me but I was watching it with the girlfriend and I asked "how funny would it be if it was the army that show up in their Bio-hazard suits, right now?" I couldn't decide either whether the acting was really good or really bad. I give it 3 thumbs. :yes::yes::yes:

Yea we said the same thing to each other when we were watching it. Thing is, it's funny when you say it out loud, but then watching it happen was just gut wrenching.

And when it comes to shooting an old couple who have supported and helped you through that situation, your 7 year old son and a close female friend whom has looked after your son, all in the face....I assume it's probably best not to stop and think about it and just get it done with

Hulkamaniac
February 27th, 2009, 9:33 AM
Yeah. The whole 'you should have waited a bit longer mate' is kind of WHY its gut-wrenching.

Guy
February 27th, 2009, 9:38 AM
Might wanna throw that in spoilers Mik

Alf
February 27th, 2009, 10:24 AM
He's probably the greatest man alive.

Just reading up on some stuff on Wiki as you do - didn't even cross my mind that the mist could have been a thinny. The way the tentacle dissolved is the same as in From a Buick 8 - which now links that into the series as well. Or some of the monsters that were also in the Dark Tower. A movie/TV adaptation of the series would actually be my most looked forward to thing ever. The way he links everything together is just mindblowing.

Oh shit. I just twigged that they could be the creatures from the Prim...

Hulkamaniac
February 27th, 2009, 12:08 PM
Why Blood?


If you havent seen the film, that bit is completely irrelevant and meaningless.

Guy
February 27th, 2009, 12:47 PM
Why Blood?


If you havent seen the film, that bit is completely irrelevant and meaningless.

Until you see him pull a gun out in the car and put the next 5 minutes together. Ruining the impact

Hobbit
March 2nd, 2009, 11:23 AM
I'm not normally one for horror films and usually find them dreadfully tedious but I was recommended by a friend to watch Let The Right One In and acquired it ages ago. Well I finally watched it and I must say it's the best film I've seen in a while, probably on a par with Slumdog Millionaire.

I won't say anything spoilerish but it's basically about a young lad named Oskar who meets a young girl called Eli and Eli is a vampire, needing a regular fix of blood. The film's essentially split into two little plots - one being Eli's quest for blood and Oskar's battle with some bullies at his school, simply connected by Eli advising him on how to hit back and Oskar being fascinated with Eli in general. It's all set in a little town near Stockholm (that's in Sweden for the Yanks, a cold place in northern Europe) and is all in Swedish with lovely subs. I'd highly recommend it to anyone who appreciates a nice plodding film with splashes of violence and a sweet love story. The performances from the two main children in it are superb. 9/10

I think it's out in the UK later this month if you want to check it out at the kino.

Alf
March 2nd, 2009, 11:30 AM
I've heard of that too and I shall download it or purchase it on dvd.

Hobbit
March 2nd, 2009, 11:31 AM
It's great Alf. I want to go to Sweden and bite people.

IB
March 2nd, 2009, 1:02 PM
I just finished watching the new Friday the 13th movie. I will admit that it held my attention (for the most part) but I was very VERY sadly dissapointed. I thought it was supposed to include more of a backstory??? Instead what we have is what could have been another sequel...not a "reimagining". The changes they made to his character; 1. kidnapping? 2. Running?? 3. Underground tunnel digger??? really did not help create a better image of the Jason character. It really just left me scratching my head and thinking: Did the creator of the Friday series really invision Jason living underground and relying on triplines? Honestly it saddens me and am fearful at this point of what they are going to do with the rest of the horror franchises. Blah!

mth
March 2nd, 2009, 3:18 PM
I'm not normally one for horror films and usually find them dreadfully tedious but I was recommended by a friend to watch Let The Right One In and acquired it ages ago. Well I finally watched it and I must say it's the best film I've seen in a while, probably on a par with Slumdog Millionaire.

I won't say anything spoilerish but it's basically about a young lad named Oskar who meets a young girl called Eli and Eli is a vampire, needing a regular fix of blood. The film's essentially split into two little plots - one being Eli's quest for blood and Oskar's battle with some bullies at his school, simply connected by Eli advising him on how to hit back and Oskar being fascinated with Eli in general. It's all set in a little town near Stockholm (that's in Sweden for the Yanks, a cold place in northern Europe) and is all in Swedish with lovely subs. I'd highly recommend it to anyone who appreciates a nice plodding film with splashes of violence and a sweet love story. The performances from the two main children in it are superb. 9/10

I think it's out in the UK later this month if you want to check it out at the kino.
That just sounds like a backwards version of Twilight...but I'm sure it's leagues better.

Hobbit
March 2nd, 2009, 3:50 PM
For what it's worth, in book form, Let The Right One In was released a year before Twilight (also its book form) so if anything Twilight is a shit version of LTROI :cool:

But yes it's absolutely miles ahead mth. I really can't bum this film enough, just watch it and dribble over it's awesomeness just to shut me up.

mth
March 2nd, 2009, 3:54 PM
If I can find it, I'll check it out. :yes:

Keano's Magic Hat
March 3rd, 2009, 7:42 AM
Anybody seen 'He loves me.. he loves me not' ( la folie... pas du tout)? It stars Audrey Tautou and I highly recommend you watch it.

Can't really go into the plot without giving away spoilers, very nice twists.

Jimmy Zero
March 3rd, 2009, 11:03 AM
Yeah, KMH, that's a great movie.

I knew nothing about it before I watched it, other than the chick that played Amelie was in it. It's one of the few movies I can think of where, not only did I not see the swerve coming, the actual swerve had it's intended effect. I was floored when they revealed what was going on. Really awesome movie.

Marlon Dingle
March 3rd, 2009, 11:11 AM
I watched Hostel: Part Two at the weekend. What a load of balls compared to the first one. Yeah lets all go to Slovakia for the best spa's in the world. Zero thumbs up.

IB
March 3rd, 2009, 11:13 AM
Me and the girlfriend watched the first 45 minutes of Lakeview Terrace last night. I am slightly interested to see how it finishes but we both agreed that so far it is veryyyyy sloooooowwww and wondering if the climax will be worth the wait. She went as far as to say that she started writing a grocery list in her head she got so bored.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 3rd, 2009, 11:17 AM
Yeah, KMH, that's a great movie.

I knew nothing about it before I watched it, other than the chick that played Amelie was in it. It's one of the few movies I can think of where, not only did I not see the swerve coming, the actual swerve had it's intended effect. I was floored when they revealed what was going on. Really awesome movie.

Spot on, EVERYBODY SHOULD WATCH IT.

Jimmy Zero the hero

Alf
March 3rd, 2009, 11:31 AM
I think I'll pick that up too.

Deka
March 3rd, 2009, 11:37 AM
I just saw the Dragonball Evolution trailer. I'm pretty much sold on seeing the movie.

Guy
March 3rd, 2009, 12:41 PM
Is that the live action film?

I wish I had any interest in that what-so-ever because I love Chow. But it looks so...sucky

VanillaJello
March 3rd, 2009, 1:48 PM
Every time I see a poster for Dragonball, I ask myself how did Scott Wolf (Party of 5) get the main character roll. Then I realize it’s just another dorky looking guy with spiky hair... and I go on with my day.

Hulkamaniac
March 3rd, 2009, 5:14 PM
I think I'll pick that up too.

Yeah, I thought that it looked decent and that Tautou looked INCREDIBLE in it. So I might give it a look too.

Version 6
March 3rd, 2009, 5:21 PM
Seeing JCVD tomorrow night.

Can't wait.

Alf
March 3rd, 2009, 5:23 PM
Yeah, I thought that it looked decent and that Tautou looked INCREDIBLE in it. So I might give it a look too.

I've downloadified it. Hopfully the subs match up.

I might just not be tight and buy it.

Hulkamaniac
March 3rd, 2009, 5:28 PM
I've downloadified it. Hopfully the subs match up.

I might just not be tight and buy it.

You cunt.


Seeing JCVD tomorrow night.

Can't wait.

I've had it for a while, just havent gotten around to watching it yet.

Version 6
March 3rd, 2009, 5:36 PM
Is it out on DVD there already?

It's only getting a theatrical release here now. And a limited one at that (a few showings at boutique cinemas as part of a French film festival).

Deka
March 3rd, 2009, 7:43 PM
Is that the live action film?

I wish I had any interest in that what-so-ever because I love Chow. But it looks so...sucky
Yeah. I'm not the biggest Dragonball fan, so my expectations and need for it to stay true to the cartoon aren't that high. Hopefully it's good.

Beer-Belly
March 4th, 2009, 7:56 AM
Leo DiCaprio to star in 'Inception'
Christopher Nolan to direct sci-fi film for WB
By MICHAEL FLEMING
Leonardo DiCaprio will star in "Inception," the science-fiction film that Christopher Nolan ("The Dark Knight") wrote and will direct as his next pic at Warner Bros.

The project shoots this year and is slated to be released in summer 2010, with Nolan and Emma Thomas producing. DiCaprio's deal is in final negotiations.

Script has been kept under wraps but the studio calls it a contemporary sci-fi actioner set within the architecture of the mind.

DiCaprio, coming off "Revolutionary Road" and "Body of Lies," will next be seen starring in the Martin Scorsese-directed "Shutter Island" at Paramount.

Read the full article at:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118000802.htmlHooray for any new Nolan film. I've never particularly been amazed by DiCaprio, though. I don't know; he's always solid, but I haven't seen a film where he steals the show.

MichaelC
March 4th, 2009, 8:29 AM
I thought that said a "contemporary sci-fi auctioneer".

What it does say sounds very Matrixish, though of course there's no point wildly speculating from a posting so small.

Keano's Magic Hat
March 4th, 2009, 10:30 AM
DiCaprio is immense.

Cactus Lem
March 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM
Me and the girlfriend watched the first 45 minutes of Lakeview Terrace last night. I am slightly interested to see how it finishes but we both agreed that so far it is veryyyyy sloooooowwww and wondering if the climax will be worth the wait. She went as far as to say that she started writing a grocery list in her head she got so bored.

I watched Lakeview Terrace a couple of weeks ago and thought it was great. Samuel L. Jackson more or less plays a nastier version of himself, and is completely hilarious at times, some brilliant lines throughout.

The film is also very aware of how ridiculous it is at times and plays off of this nicely.

Hobbit
March 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM
FINALLY watched A History of Violence. I loved it, Viggo was class as usual and though I normally find her dull and shit, Maria Bello was also great value.

With that title I was expecting it to be violent but I was somewhat surprised, pleasantly, with the amount of violence and gore in it. It only added to the film though and I felt it greatly helped to establish Viggo's character, if they had pussied out of it slightly then for me I don't think it would have had that wow factor, certainly in the crucial diner scene where it all kicks off and of course where Ed Harris and his mates are outside Viggo's house with Viggo.

I wasn't mad keen on the school scenes with his son, whilst I understand their importance I felt they were too long. Having said that I don't know how else they could've made his son react violently a la his dad to someone without it seeming random and more importantly - unprovoked. I suppose that's why I'm not a screenwriter, amongst hundreds of other reasons.

I read that William Hurt was nominated for an Oscar for his role in the film, why? He was only in it for about 20 minutes and certainly not as good as Ed Harris if they were after supporting roles. Hurt's a great actor of course but to be up for an Oscar for this was ridiculous.

But yeah I really enjoyed it and regret not seeing it before really, it's been for about 5 years hasn't it? Oops. 8/10

Keano's Magic Hat
March 4th, 2009, 2:07 PM
I despise that film.

Matt E
March 8th, 2009, 6:49 PM
I'm randomly watching She's The Man, this is one of the worst films I've ever seen. Actually didn't mind 10 Things I Hate About You but this is just terrible :lol:

Hulkamaniac
March 8th, 2009, 7:14 PM
Well cos thats not a particularly bad film and She's the Man is pretty much just pure shit with a pretty lead.

Matt E
March 8th, 2009, 7:19 PM
Aren't they written by the same people though? Based on a better Shakespeare play as well, really shouldn't be THAT bad.

BabyBooboo
March 8th, 2009, 11:07 PM
I'm trying to find a film magazine that I might want to subscribe to. Right now I'm looking at either Empire or Sight and Sound. Anyone got any suggestions?

Morrison
March 9th, 2009, 2:21 AM
Though I don't think the film looks all too special compared to the original, the use of that eerie cover of 'Sweet Child O' Mine' in the trailer for the Last House on the Left remake kinda creeps me out.

Hulkamaniac
March 9th, 2009, 5:13 AM
I'm trying to find a film magazine that I might want to subscribe to. Right now I'm looking at either Empire or Sight and Sound. Anyone got any suggestions?

Empire is generally better than Total Film, but sometimes it is not.

Marlon Dingle
March 9th, 2009, 5:32 AM
I have bought like the past 6 Empire's in a row. I love it, its pretty good with article's about movies that still have a few months to come out, and also pretty spot on with its reviews. This month has a huge shit hot article on Terminator Salvation and also a look back on the trilogy. Some good stuff in there.

Morrison
March 9th, 2009, 8:59 AM
speaking of terminator salvation, and continuing on my trailer talk, i gotta say that seeing the latest trailer for the film on the big screen before watchmen got me real, real excited. it looked awesome, and has got me genuinely hyped for the film now.

Beer-Belly
March 9th, 2009, 9:03 AM
The Public Enemies trailer got me pretty stoked.

I'm looking forward to Observe and Report as well. It's nice to see Seth Rogen try something else for a change.

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 9:22 AM
On Terminator: Savlation, I'm annoyed that the future doesn't have as much blue filter on it as it has in past films

Marlon Dingle
March 9th, 2009, 9:47 AM
On Terminator: Savlation, I'm annoyed that the future doesn't have as much blue filter on it as it has in past films

Yeah fuck it, the whole film is ruined now. Its a different director who has a different vision, most of the scenes I have seen in the trailer are daytime shots in the desert. Where as back in the original trilogy most shots were at night in underground and/or on a futuristic battlefield. Calm down mate. Nothing is written.

Jimmy Zero
March 9th, 2009, 9:55 AM
On Terminator: Savlation, I'm annoyed that the future doesn't have as much blue filter on it as it has in past films

Gee golly gosh, maybe it's because most of the future scenes are shown in a nuclear winter DURING THE DAYTIME. Besides that, who cares? What a dumb thing to be annoyed by.

Morrison
March 9th, 2009, 9:59 AM
i don't think it's dumb to be annoyed by it. i mean, it's not like the first two terminator films are easy to just sweep under the rug. just seems inconsistent that for two films, the 'future' had a very distinct look, and we finally get a film in that future, and it doesn't seem to have the same tone.

i don't care, cause it looks awesome, regardless. but still.

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 10:05 AM
Yeah fuck it, the whole film is ruined now. Its a different director who has a different vision, most of the scenes I have seen in the trailer are daytime shots in the desert. Where as back in the original trilogy most shots were at night in underground and/or on a futuristic battlefield. Calm down mate. Nothing is written.


Gee golly gosh, maybe it's because most of the future scenes are shown in a nuclear winter DURING THE DAYTIME. Besides that, who cares? What a dumb thing to be annoyed by.

Calm down ladies, I was only half serious. I'm not too massively bothered by it that I don't want to see the film, or that I think it's going to be shite.

I mean Bale vs Terminators for gods sake!


i don't think it's dumb to be annoyed by it. i mean, it's not like the first two terminator films are easy to just sweep under the rug. just seems inconsistent that for two films, the 'future' had a very distinct look, and we finally get a film in that future, and it doesn't seem to have the same tone.

i don't care, cause it looks awesome, regardless. but still.

Exactly this.

I mean they've gone for a more Mad Max type look with this one, and the underground/night scenes seem to have a green filter on them. I just find it odd that, considering the first two have a very specific look, the third took that specific look and updated it with CGI instead of cheapo moving backdrops...but kept the same tone.

Then the one film set in the future doesn't seem to have any sort of similarity to everything we've been shown prior. I can't remember fully, but does the new trailer show any sort of laser gun either?

This is what the Future War always looked like to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7nq-r7QWW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRthJShdStc

Jimmy Zero
March 9th, 2009, 10:06 AM
It just seems to be a really silly, pedantic comment. It's not going to effect his enjoyment of the movie , so why even make mention? It's not like we're talking a discrepancy as big as Han not shooting first. It's like complaining about Batman Begins and Dark Knight not using sound stages and Prince music.

I mean, they don't use laser guns in the future in this new one either. Are we going to piss and moan about that too?

Morrison
March 9th, 2009, 10:10 AM
but does the new trailer show any sort of laser gun either?



I mean, they don't use laser guns in the future in this new one either. Are we going to piss and moan about that too?

ahahahahahahaha.

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 10:14 AM
It just seems to be a really silly, pedantic comment. It's not going to effect his enjoyment of the movie , so why even make mention? It's not like we're talking a discrepancy as big as Han not shooting first. It's like complaining about Batman Begins and Dark Knight not using sound stages and Prince music.

I mean, they don't use laser guns in the future in this new one either. Are we going to piss and moan about that too?

Not exactly, as this is the continuation of the same story and progression of the same characters from the past movies, same continuity, same Terminator theme tune, hell even the same font on the posters

Marlon Dingle
March 9th, 2009, 11:17 AM
i don't think it's dumb to be annoyed by it. i mean, it's not like the first two terminator films are easy to just sweep under the rug. just seems inconsistent that for two films, the 'future' had a very distinct look, and we finally get a film in that future, and it doesn't seem to have the same tone.

i don't care, cause it looks awesome, regardless. but still.

Yeah but if you even read the little brief that has been released about the film you will notice that future has been changed. Its not the same future that we seen in the first movies.


Set in post-apocalyptic 2018, John Connor (Christian Bale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Bale)), the man fated to be the leader of the human resistance against Skynet and its army of Terminators, and the future he was raised to believe in is altered in part by the appearance of Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Worthington)), a stranger whose last memory is of being on death row. Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future or rescued from the past. As Skynet prepares its final onslaught, Connor and Marcus both embark on an odyssey that takes them into the heart of Skynet's operations, where they find out a terrible secret that may lead to the possible annihilation of mankind.

Oh and OMG Christian Bale looks nothing like the John Connor in the Terminator.

Hobbit
March 9th, 2009, 11:27 AM
I have bought like the past 6 Empire's in a row. I love it, its pretty good with article's about movies that still have a few months to come out, and also pretty spot on with its reviews. This month has a huge shit hot article on Terminator Salvation and also a look back on the trilogy. Some good stuff in there.

I've been subscribed to Empire for about 2 years now and it's nearly always a very good read. They do have interviews with actors/directors/writers/whoever that I might not be a fan of but I can't expect to have my own way every issue, and the interviews are usually good regardless. For example they had an interview with Steve Martin I think recently and whilst I can't stand the man and find him about as funny as cancer I enjoyed the interview. I think that's a good thing certainly.

I'm not particularly arsed about this new Terminator film so the million page feature on it doesn't really interest me, but I'd imagine it's pornography for fans.

The feature 'Pink of Milk' is good fun and normally the first thing I skim to. Great read.

Marlon Dingle
March 9th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Yeah I even put up the retro poster of Terminator on my wall when I got this months issue. Shit hot.

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Yeah but if you even read the little brief that has been released about the film you will notice that future has been changed. Its not the same future that we seen in the first movies.

Oh and OMG Christian Bale looks nothing like the John Connor in the Terminator.

There's been 4 John Connors (not including the tv show) in the series. There has only been one version of the future war.

Again it's not something that's going to stop me seeing the film, it's just a niggle. Something I've been looking forward to since T2 is the hope of one day seeing the a film, or a few films based in the future war. I always loved the thought of the franchise going into Judgment Day and ending with Kyle being sent back, thus putting the franchise in a continual loop within itself. When the bombs went off at the end of T3 I was excited about the possibility of seeing this epic future war that we've seen snippets of throughout the series.

It's just bugged me that when something I've longed for finally comes around, it looks nothing like I imagined it would and nothing like the past films promised it would. The feel of it changes completely.

Alf
March 9th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Isn't it set in an early part of the war too though? The fully fledged terminators (are they the T-800s?)haven't even been (mass) produced yet... and this is slated to be a trilogy... so you may see that version of the future yet. You may even get your laser guns as the arms race steps up a notch.

Alf
March 9th, 2009, 1:03 PM
On Terminator: Savlation, I'm annoyed that the future doesn't have as much blue filter on it as it has in past films

...jesus fucking christ blood... blue filter... shut your maw you student. Get a proper job and then talk to me about blue filter.

Most of the scenes we've seen from this film have been from day-time, where-as most of the scenes in the previous film have been night-time (possibly to mask poor effects).

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 1:57 PM
Yes most are from the day.

But they've been night time AND bunker scenes shown in the trailers. I think it's easy to say that it looks nothing like the previous version of the future.

I do love how much whining you guys are all doing about one off the cuff comment though

Alf
March 9th, 2009, 3:03 PM
Stop being so ridiculous then.

a) It's an earlier time period
b) It's an altrered time priod
c) Technology has moved on
d) Blue filter! Blue filter!

Hulkamaniac
March 9th, 2009, 3:23 PM
Blood's posts make me want to claw my own eyes out.

Version 6
March 9th, 2009, 5:53 PM
Empire is generally better than Total Film, but sometimes it is not.

Empire has about the right mix of reviews (cinema, DVD, blu-ray), features and interviews, for mine.

I actually really enjoy their interview style. They manage to draw interesting and detailed responses from their subjects, instead of the ususal promotional babble.

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 6:37 PM
Stop being so ridiculous then.

a) It's an earlier time period
b) It's an altrered time priod
c) Technology has moved on
d) Blue filter! Blue filter!

Yea I've taken all of that into account.......still doesn't mean I wouldn't prefer to see a movie that looks and feels like the future we were shown beforehand

:dunno:

Version 6
March 9th, 2009, 6:47 PM
To be fair to Blood, it really isn't that strange to fall in love with the look and feel of a film.

Obviously you should be open to different interpretations. But, for example, I'm wary of the new Crow film, for instance since it sounds like it's going to be such a depature from the look and feel of the original. And that look and feel is a large part of why I love that movie so much.

Doesn't mean I won't see it (or that Blood won't see Salvation). Just means that something we loved about original films, won't be part of the respective reboots.

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 6:54 PM
Exactly. I never said I wouldn't see the film, nor that I am going to try in anyway not to enjoy it.

Terminator is a part of my childhood (oddly), to change the future in the new film feels like making a Ghostbusters 3, in Miami with different coloured proton streams

Jimmy Zero
March 9th, 2009, 7:00 PM
...with different coloured proton streams

:rolleyes:

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 7:17 PM
Yea it seems small, but it's a big part of a beloved series.

Hulkamaniac
March 9th, 2009, 7:28 PM
Its a small part of a beloved series.

Marlon Dingle
March 9th, 2009, 7:43 PM
Blood did you not read my post about it being an altered version of the future? I think the main overall point of the first three films is that the future is not written or am i getting confused with Back to the Future. Anyways yeah I checked it and at some point in each film it mentions the future not being set, so for all we know John Connor doesn't lead the human race to victory, so why worry about blue filter?


Terminator - Kyle Reese: "Thank you, Sarah, for your courage through the dark years. I can't help you with what you must soon face, except to say that the future is not set."

T2 - John Connor: "The whole thing goes: The future's not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves. "

Terminator 3: Rise of The Machines - John Connor: " The future has not been written. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 7:50 PM
Yes and no

I believe the third film also says that the future is set, and that Judgment Day is inevitable?

EDIT: And again Marlon, it's not me saying "This film is wrong, dammit", it's me saying "I think it would've been cool if..." or "Part of me wishes that..."

BabyBooboo
March 9th, 2009, 8:05 PM
I thought that the producers don't consider T3 to be canon anymore. Or was that just for Sarah Conner Chronicles?

Guy
March 9th, 2009, 8:42 PM
Just for the TV show I believe:

In Salvation, Kate Brewster (from T3, though now played by someone else) is married to John. Among other things

Organasm
March 10th, 2009, 4:15 PM
If anyone has any interest in Martin Scorsese's next film Shutter Island, you could just watch 1987's Angel Heart (w/ Rourke and De Niro) instead as it's equally as good a story, has most of the same twists and already exists. Or just read the book...

From the amount of cigarettes being smoked and dreamsequences that the main character has getting David Lynch to do the film would have seemed like a better fit. Oh well, that Scorsese fella's pretty good anyhow.

Cactus Lem
March 11th, 2009, 2:49 PM
Empire is generally better than Total Film, but sometimes it is not.

I usually find Total Film's reviews are a little better, or maybe more suited to what I'm looking for. I also hate how obvious the whole pay per review crap can be in Empire most of the time as well. I remember the Crystal Skull getting a 4 when it was released in theater's, but when it was released on DVD that rating somehow dropped to a 2. Just one example, but there have definitely been others as well.


If anyone has any interest in Martin Scorsese's next film Shutter Island, you could just watch 1987's Angel Heart (w/ Rourke and De Niro) instead as it's equally as good a story, has most of the same twists and already exists. Or just read the book...

From the amount of cigarettes being smoked and dreamsequences that the main character has getting David Lynch to do the film would have seemed like a better fit. Oh well, that Scorsese fella's pretty good anyhow.

Have you somehow seen Shutter Island or something?

Hulkamaniac
March 11th, 2009, 4:55 PM
I think that Empire have more of a tendancy to get carried away by high anticipated movies. I seem to remember them giving The Phantom Menace 4 or 5 stars too when it was first release.

Version 6
March 11th, 2009, 5:03 PM
I think that Empire have more of a tendancy to get carried away by high anticipated movies. I seem to remember them giving The Phantom Menace 4 or 5 stars too when it was first release.

This is true.

They always end up bringing the rating down a star on the DVD review. Total Film is probably more consistent in its reviews, but I don't enjoy the features half as much.

Plus, Total Film is $16 here. Bollocks to that.

Cactus Lem
March 11th, 2009, 5:06 PM
I think that Empire have more of a tendancy to get carried away by high anticipated movies. I seem to remember them giving The Phantom Menace 4 or 5 stars too when it was first release.

You're thinking no money is changing hands between the studios and Empire then?

I've always had my suspicions.

IB
March 11th, 2009, 5:07 PM
Ramble:

I'm excited. My girlfriend and her son are out of the house all evening. Just me and the son. I'm trying to decide what movie I should watch.........

mth
March 11th, 2009, 5:11 PM
Lesbian Pool Party?