***Official*** Scottish Football Discussion Thread

[Melv]

Just noticed we don't have one of these here yet.

Anyway, today it was announced that Irn Bru will be sponsoring the SFL leagues. Fantastic.

[Melv]

Predictions for this season:

SPL Winners: Celtic
Relegated: Gretna
Division 1 Winners: Dunfermline
Division 1 Relegated: Stirling
Div 1 Playoff Winners: Brechin
Division 2 Winners: Ross County
Division 2 Relegated: Peterhead
Div 2 Playoff Winners: Berwick
Div 3 Winners: East Fife

[Smell It?]

fuck this bollocks. I cant take another year of this inane shit in the SPL. BORRRRRRRRRRING

SNOOZE FEST. Europe is where it is at, albeit for a short stay as usual.

[Curly Toe]

In the final minute Galal felled substitute Chris Maguire with, what appeared to be a punch. The referee immediately sent him off with a straight red and as Barry Nicholson went over to Maguire to find out how he was the official bizarrely showed the Dons midfielder a straight red card and he too was sent off.

There was me thinking Scottish referees were bad.....

[Melv]

ahahahahaha

[Curly Toe]

http://www.afc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/2b/d7/0,,10284~3331883,00.jpg

:confused:

Possibly the worst signing ever.

[Smell It?]

Maloney might be coming back. That's the first signing to excite me since Brown. I love that wee man. Great little player. The rest we have signed are balls.

[The Rosk]

Bollocks, you can't have him. O'Neill will make him a Premiership great.

[Smell It?]

I'm having him and then you will be defeated forever.

[J]

I am not sure if I want him back to be honest and I don't know how truthful the sources are. Personally I think its just lazy journalism as he never made an immediate impact in his first season, I can't see Martin O'Neill letting him go this quickly.

[wardy]

Fuck him, we don't need him.

[Smell It?]

We do. Jan needs a partner up front. The rest are bollocks.

[Melv]

McDonald, Killen, Riordan, Miller are all good enough for the SPL. Possibly Zurawski too.

And it seems Celtic are going for Naismith too. It's fucking ridiculous how many strikers they have.

[wardy]

Riordan or Naismith will be fine. Zurawski will pop with goals now and again as well.

[Smell It?]

McDonald, Killen, Riordan, Miller are all good enough for the SPL. Possibly Zurawski too.

And it seems Celtic are going for Naismith too. It's fucking ridiculous how many strikers they have.

They are all shit. Killen is balls, McDonald is crap, Miller is pathetic and Zurawski isn't the player he was. Riordan is decent.

We are trying to build on last year, especially the champs league success. Those fucking pathetic strikers wont bag us goals in europe. Maloney won player of the year in his last season as voted by his fellow pros. There isnt a hope in hell of any of those other dickheads we have up front (bar Jan) of getting that. Therefore, we need him at present time.

Naismith for 2m? Fuck that.

[Christopherson]

I personally like McDonald and it's obvious Ginger minge doesn't rate/fancy either of Riordan (which is a piss take) or Zurawski. Miller is more likely to be shoot this season than score 20 goals for Celtic and Killen is definitely unproven at this big a club


So yeah first post.

Rangers won 3-0, Bazza looked very good as did Huttondinho, McCullouch (really not happy about the signing of him), Thomspon and Cuellar. So good times.

Rangers being wankers are being reported because we have a element of support that won't be happy until we're docked points. Also I seem to be in the minority here but Rangers still don't look to have much craft or invention to them and all the signings with the exception of Cuellar just haven't filled me with much joy (although there is potential there). I, unlike smelly arse would like Naismith so therefor Celtic should just buy him like every other fucking player I want. So bad times.

[Curly Toe]

Alexander refused Fir Park access
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44039000/jpg/_44039298_rowanfirpark270.jpg
Former Gretna manager Rowan Alexander has been refused entry to Fir Park after reporting fit for work.

Gretna kicked off their debut SPL season against Falkirk at Motherwell's Lanarkshire stadium, with Alexander's former assistant David Irons in charge.

Alexander's position at the club has been unclear since he took a leave of absence in March and Irons stepped in as caretaker coach.

Gretna have so far refused to comment on Alexander's future.

Irons was recently named permanent head coach by owner Brooks Mileson.

And, having been turned away, Alexander released a statement, saying: "Today, as the manager of Gretna FC, I attended Fir Park, Motherwell to do the job I am contracted to do.

"My representative, Kevin Drinkell, and my solicitor, Mr Leo Martin, have made numerous and repeated attempts to clarify and resolve my situation currently with Gretna FC, without success.

"As a friendly suggestion from Brooks Mileson, I took some time away from my role.

"Throughout, there has been nothing medically wrong with me. However, I have been requested by the club to stay away.

"Today, I am here to celebrate Gretna's achievements as the manager who has guided the club to a Scottish Cup Final, in to European competition, and through three divisions in to the SPL."

Fantastic.

Can't wait to see these bastards relegated.

[Melv]

Alexander's a twat, but he has been treated like shit.

[Badger]

4-0 to Falkirk.

:rofl:

[wardy]

Terrible, terrible game.

[Smell It?]

I told you our strikers are shit. I really fucking hate the SPL. Worst league in the world.

[RomulusWolfe]

I personally like McDonald and it's obvious Ginger minge doesn't rate/fancy either of Riordan (which is a piss take) or Zurawski. Miller is more likely to be shoot this season than score 20 goals for Celtic and Killen is definitely unproven at this big a club


So yeah first post.

Rangers won 3-0, Bazza looked very good as did Huttondinho, McCullouch (really not happy about the signing of him), Thomspon and Cuellar. So good times.

Rangers being wankers are being reported because we have a element of support that won't be happy until we're docked points. Also I seem to be in the minority here but Rangers still don't look to have much craft or invention to them and all the signings with the exception of Cuellar just haven't filled me with much joy (although there is potential there). I, unlike smelly arse would like Naismith so therefor Celtic should just buy him like every other fucking player I want. So bad times.

It's 'cause, even though they're probably never entered a church they still want to be fuckwits and moan about the Catholics and how committed little Orange Proddys they are. I really hate our fans sometimes.

I agree with you about the signings. I don't agree with most of the signings whatsoever besides Cuellar and Whittaker, two very solid defenders. I know we haven't got a great budget but Murray said he'd be willing to spend ten million - I think Smith should have shown a helluva lot more ambition in signing players, but if at the end of the year it's Title 52 then everything's good. :D

And as far as Celtic goes, apparentily they were pretty shit today, but they've got a very talented midfield.. how did Brown and Donati do for Celtic today?

[wardy]

Donati looked comfortable and Brown wasn't really in the game.

[RRG]

Rangers won 3-0, Bazza looked very good as did Huttondinho, McCullouch (really not happy about the signing of him), Thomspon and Cuellar. So good times.

Rangers being wankers are being reported because we have a element of support that won't be happy until we're docked points. Also I seem to be in the minority here but Rangers still don't look to have much craft or invention to them and all the signings with the exception of Cuellar just haven't filled me with much joy (although there is potential there). I, unlike smelly arse would like Naismith so therefor Celtic should just buy him like every other fucking player I want. So bad times.

It's a no win situation. If Rangers are docked points it would be good as it might somewhat begin to bring an end to this ridiculous crowd trouble, but on the other hand it might just fuel the problem as Celtic are hardly innocent of these sectarian chants etc. But if both got docked points then it wouldn't really matter in the SPL anyway. It's a very hard situation.

Mcculloch is a nightmare signing, I was very excited about the signing of Beasley but the signing of Mcculloch looks as if it may keep Beasley out of the left wing. I think it's a farce we are willing to pay 2 million for Mcculloch rather than Naismith.

Mcculloch, and aswell the signing of Whittaker who appears to be groomed for the right side of midfield shows that we will be playing a very flat four four -two. It may help us win, but it will also be very boring. Smith has always been about that style but from his previous reign he really lacks the killer punch that he had back in the 9 in a row days. We had Mccoist and Hately or Laudrup and Gascoigne, something a bit more special. Nobody seems to have that in the rangers team at the moment.

That's why I wish we signed Brown, I still feel that Brown is going to be extremely special. The stories from Murray about Brown shattering the wage structure and destroying morale screams Ferguson to me. Barry Ferguson has too much power at that club, Brown is a better player with Ferguson and Ferguson has too much power to let a central midfielder as dynamic as Brown to come in. Thomson can be a nice foil to Ferguson but he doesn't threaten the "icon status" that Ferguson continues to try and preserve for himself. He should not be a captain.

I agree completely about Cuellar, every time I see him I get more and more impressed. He seems like he is the perfect player for Rangers: somebody with foreign experience who is just as at home in an SPL scrap.

I think Smith has built exactly what I feared he would , a very powerful SPL team that is very hard to beat , but doesn't have that special something to really go any further than that.

[RomulusWolfe]

It's a no win situation. If Rangers are docked points it would be good as it might somewhat begin to bring an end to this ridiculous crowd trouble, but on the other hand it might just fuel the problem as Celtic are hardly innocent of these sectarian chants etc. But if both got docked points then it wouldn't really matter in the SPL anyway. It's a very hard situation.

Mcculloch is a nightmare signing, I was very excited about the signing of Beasley but the signing of Mcculloch looks as if it may keep Beasley out of the left wing. I think it's a farce we are willing to pay 2 million for Mcculloch rather than Naismith.

Mcculloch, and aswell the signing of Whittaker who appears to be groomed for the right side of midfield shows that we will be playing a very flat four four -two. It may help us win, but it will also be very boring. Smith has always been about that style but from his previous reign he really lacks the killer punch that he had back in the 9 in a row days. We had Mccoist and Hately or Laudrup and Gascoigne, something a bit more special. Nobody seems to have that in the rangers team at the moment.

That's why I wish we signed Brown, I still feel that Brown is going to be extremely special. The stories from Murray about Brown shattering the wage structure and destroying morale screams Ferguson to me. Barry Ferguson has too much power at that club, Brown is a better player with Ferguson and Ferguson has too much power to let a central midfielder as dynamic as Brown to come in. Thomson can be a nice foil to Ferguson but he doesn't threaten the "icon status" that Ferguson continues to try and preserve for himself. He should not be a captain.

I agree completely about Cuellar, every time I see him I get more and more impressed. He seems like he is the perfect player for Rangers: somebody with foreign experience who is just as at home in an SPL scrap.

I think Smith has built exactly what I feared he would , a very powerful SPL team that is very hard to beat , but doesn't have that special something to really go any further than that.

I suppose it's what you've got to ask - do you want the SPL or success in Europe? Because with Smith it's pretty much one or the other - that 92/93 season was a one-off, not because the team wasn't talented enough, because it certainly was, but because Smith just doesn't play well in Europe, for whatever reason.

I don't know about the whole Ferguson thing, but I do wish we'd signed Brown. He's exactly what we're need. Still, apparentily we've still money to spend, so here's hoping Smith shows some ambition.

[Badger]

Earlier today in the street some five-foot wide-o ned wearing a Celtic top took off his top, waved it around and challenged me for a fight for no reason like neds do. More scared of the sight of his unseemly gut than the threat of physical violence, I walked off in the other direction.

Bloody Celtic fans.

[wardy]

I can only assume that you deserved it.

[Badger]

Assume makes an ass of u and me.

[RRG]

I've now come to the conclusion that Rangers only signed Beasley so we can tug on the heart strings when anybody criticises our fans.

"OH I KNOW WE WERE BEING COMPLETELY BIGOTED...BUT AT LEAST WE'RE NOT...RACISTS"

[RRG]

7-2, but although I love Whittaker I am so gutted that he is playing right midfield as it just means that Hutton and McCulloch will continue to be in the starting line up. I hate both of them.

On a more positive note, I think weve found out strike partnership in Cousin and Darcheville.

Oh, the story of Hemdani being sold and Gatusso signing for Rangers has arisen again. Why must the tabloid press constantly toy with our hearts. If Gattusso signs for Rangers before he is 35 I will be absolutely stunned.

[wardy]

5-0! Hearts really are a sorry sight nowadays, but who cares really?

From what I've heard, Brown and Donati are forming a nice little partnership in the midfield. Sounds good. Although I'd be surprised if we hung on to Donati for more then 2 years. Which is gay.

[Smell It?]

Celtic fans have been wonderful this season so far. A credit to their club.

[Christopherson]

Shame then your a bigot. Infact that entire post is filled with secterian hatred.


Such a waste of a young and promising life.

[Smell It?]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Beefy]

Hey chaps, it's my bi-annual pop into this thread to find out opinions on a player that Southend are after. Despite Smell It?'s Derek Riordan-related teasing, it turns out that Steve Lovell of Aberdeen is the SPL striker that Southend are after to follow in the footsteps of Alan McCormack ( :heart: ), Stevie Hammell ( :yes: ) & Ritchie Foran ( :blah: ). Any good?

[Melv]

He's average. Doubt he'd be a big star for you.

[wardy]

Red Star were fucking murder tonight, really lacking in any creativity whatsoever.

And what about their captain? Forget his name, stupid hairdo. Worst player on the park.

[Christopherson]

As some of you may or may not know I was utterly devastated when Scott Brown choose the extra 10k a week (scandalous, although grudgingly understandable). So this drawn out Naismith signing was starting to send me over the edge. Thankfully as of 11:59pm he is now a Rangers player.

I fully expect the secterian bigots (ie Smelly Cat) to denounce this wonderful signing, I say blah to that folly and counter it by saying it's a wonderful signing....shame Walter won't play him much this season :(.

:nono:

[Melv]

Watch the unwashed ones turn on him like they have with Boyd.

[Smell It?]

As some of you may or may not know I was utterly devastated when Scott Brown choose the extra 10k a week (scandalous, although grudgingly understandable). So this drawn out Naismith signing was starting to send me over the edge. Thankfully as of 11:59pm he is now a Rangers player.

I fully expect the secterian bigots (ie Smelly Cat) to denounce this wonderful signing, I say blah to that folly and counter it by saying it's a wonderful signing....shame Walter won't play him much this season :(.

:nono:

He's bollocks.

PS: Fuck off Strachan. Killen and Scott McDonald up front against Milan. FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFF

[wardy]

Disappointed to see Miller go, I think some people forget that he scored some of our most important goals last season. Can't believe we didn't get a better striker first.

Not surprised about Naismith. Much like Boyd, I wish we had signed him. Hope he isn't happy sitting on the bench and fucks off somewhere.

[Badger]

Hearts 4 Rangers 2? :eek:

[wardy]

OH THE RANGERS ARE SHITE, OH THE RANGERS ARE SHITE, OH THE RANGERS ARE SHITE, OF THE RANGERS ARE SHITE! SO FUCKIN SHITE! OH THE RANGERS ARE SHITE etc.

[Smell It?]

:lol:

[Fulham Road Supporter]

Judging by this thread, this post is likely to not get a response, but...

October 6th, me and my dad got tickets for the Rangers vs Hibs game at Ibrox. (What with Chelsea being away to Bolton the next day it's easy to do both, can't fucking wait).

Need to prepare myself though, and find out what songs Rangers will sing so I can join in, other then the IRA stuff mainly, what songs do I need to know lads?

Where's Friday and DavidUK been, posters who I've actually heard of.

[Christopherson]

Hey son I've been here when David and Friday where itches in they're daddies pants.


The answer you seek my boy is nothing. Thats right, no fucking songs are allowed at Ibrox anymore.


:lol:

Guess who I'm doing a impression off.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

You used to be around, I didn't realise you still were after long periods of absence in the fantasy football.

I honestly don't know who that was an impression of :$, just point me in the right direction on songs I need to know please.

I hear they put the words to The Sash on the screens in some pubs, that might well come in handy.

[Christopherson]

The impression was of Smell It? after laughing at us becuase of Hearts and there wonderous ability to hit deflected goals.

I thought it was pretty obvious :ashamed:.



Oh yes bigoted behaviour is still prevelaint in most pubs around Ibrox, you can sing Rule Britiania in the stadium, Barry Barry Barry, follow follow (the clean version) are another couple now. Needs to be Celtic, Euro night maybe Aberdeen to have a decent atmosphere in Ibrox now.

The patter in the pub should be good fun for you, especially you being a Chelsea boy (ICF, Headhammers all that bollocks from yesteryear).

[Fulham Road Supporter]

The first sentance sounded Smell It? Like, the rest I was clueless about.

I am in two minds, wear the Rangers shirt my dad got me from the friendly against Chelsea the other month, or wear my Chelsea shirt and the Rangers scarf he got me.

A lot of Rangers who come to our gaff wear their Rangers shirts and everyone loves it, and it's good that they make themselves known. Might well just wear my Chelsea shirt

Is follow follow:
hallo hallo how do you do
we are the boys in royal blue
were ever we go we fear no foe
we'll keep the blue flag flying high
follow follow we will rangers anywhere
everywhere we wil follow on
follow follow we will rangers
if we go to europe we will follow on

Do you actually ever sing (as taken again from Footballchants.org)
BLUE IS THE COLOUR
FOOTBALL IS THE GAME
WE WILL FOLLOW RANGERS
TO ROME AND BACK AGAIN
AND WHEN WE MEET THE FEINIANS
WELL FIGHT UNTILL WE DIE
WEARE RANGERS
NO SURRENDER
LISTEN TO OUR CRY

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Hello, Hello,
We are the Rangers boys.
Hello, Hello,
You'll know us boy our noise...

Follow, follow,
We will follow Rangers,
Everywhere, anywhere, we will follow on
Dundee, Hamilton, Aberdeen and back again...etc.

is the one I know.

Would you like to try a cheeseburger Bobby Sands is quite good too

[wardy]

Hello, Hello,
We are the Rangers boys.
Hello, Hello,
You'll know us boy our noise...
:rofl: You'd get chucked out of Ibrox for singing those words mate.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Haha yeah probably, it's the only one I've got a decent quality file of though

[wardy]

What a great weekend I had.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

Bloody hell, without the old songs Ibrox is dead. Barely anything was sung (Not that they had anything to sing about on the pitch mind). Was a bad performance and we barely looked like doing anything when attacking. Hutton was about the only really decent player, Charlie Adam tried hard but was shit, Kris Boyd didn't even look interested really.

Went down The Argyle for a drink after the match, loving the Chelsea flag outside it :cool:. Never knew just how good a bond there was between our fans. Annie Miller's is quality too, people kept buying us drinks coz we were Chelsea and one of them gave my dad a half and half scarf.

[Smell It?]

WE? FUCKING WE? WE? SHUT YOUR MOUTH

[wardy]

All the way up here to watch the huns play shit and get beat at home off Hibs. :lol:

You never knew how good a bond you had? You're both loyalist scum that no-one else likes, surely you knew that.

[son_of_foley]

Linfield are wankers as well.

GLENS all the way

[Fulham Road Supporter]

Wouldn't mind getting up to Linfield sometime, watch one of their matches.


All the way up here to watch the huns play shit and get beat at home off Hibs. :lol:

You never knew how good a bond you had? You're both loyalist scum that no-one else likes, surely you knew that.

Result aside it was still worth it, I was going to Bolton the next day for the Chelsea match, so I was up north anyway.

I knew we had a good bond, but not that all Rangers fans we met would be so friendly just because we were Chelsea. I like seeing Rangers fans down at The Bridge, but I don't just approach and talk to them just because they've come down to our gaff, let alone buy them drinks and give them a scarf.

I'm personally not loyalist scum though, I like Rangers because of our connection, I find religion to be laughable and honestly don't give a shit about the Proddy Vs Catholic stuff, they're all wasting their time.

Anyway, regardless of that performance, I still think WE will win the SPL.

[Smell It?]

Get a grip

[wardy]

Well, it's the big one tomorrow lads, and the pressure is firmly on the huns. There are injuries all over the place, but I think this is going to be a typical Auld Firm classic. However, I smell a draw.

2-2 Donati to score first.

[Melv]

0-0 borefest.

[J]

Bit nervous about today, though I guess every old firm game I am both nervous and excited. Think we will go with McDonald up front on his own, talks about Jarosik playing this one and hopefully Brown is back!

Hopefully we can sneak this by a goal

Rangers 1 - 2 Celtic

[Slare]

Celtic are pretty dire here.

[Ringo]

ASGHg,sdalsmmkdl las Celtic :lol:

[Andy]

ahahahhahghahahhahashhgsgnvn bnfogp0-34-

[Smell It?]

Celtic are woeful.

[wardy]

Ringo, why the fuck do you care? Are you another piece of Rangers/Chelsea loyalist filth, or even sadder, a wannabe?

STILL TOP LADS!!

[Andy]

Dunfermline got beaten 5-0 at home by Hamilton yesterday. :nono:

[Smell It?]

Terrible. Kenny gonna get the sack?

[Fulham Road Supporter]

Ringo, why the fuck do you care? Are you another piece of Rangers/Chelsea loyalist filth, or even sadder, a wannabe?

STILL TOP LADS!!

Bloody hell. It's not about being a fucking loyalist with all Chelsea fans, alot of our fans look out for Rangers results, they look out for ours. They are the Scottish team alot of us like because of the connections between the clubs, and want to see them do well.

When Chelsea went to Ibrox this season there was a friendly atmosphere that strengthened relations, when you lot came to our gaff last year you tried to start fights at Euston Station, then got off at Fulham Broadway at about 2pm trying to cause trouble on the streets despite everyone being at work, (theres videos online your fans uploaded of you lot walking round acting like cunts and singing your pro IRA shit).

We don't like Celtic for reasons, also singing pro IRA songs is never going to go down well with Londoners, hence Rangers also have half and half scarves for Arsenal, West Ham, possibly Spurs and another one or two London clubs.

Fucking get in Rangers, great preparation for tomorrow.

[wardy]

We've got half n half scarves with every fucking team out there apart from Rangers. It means nothing.

If it's not a loyalist connection your teams have, then what is it? An ugly, unwashed, everybody hates us and we don't care connection? Cause that's the only other similarity I can see.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

No, probably only Milwall can have that claim about everybody hating them. Us and Rangers have no fewer people hating them then any other team.

Honestly, it is a Loyalist connection to some, just not me, alot of older London fans obviously hate the IRA. There's still Bobby Sands songs sung sometimes round Stamford Bridge as with 'when I was young'.

But thats doesn't mean thats why we ALL like Rangers, it probably is how the bond started, but alot of people don't care about it, alot of youngsters sing it without really understanding it, and I don't really understand it much either and for that reason I don't sing it, but I still like Rangers as a football team, nothing to do with the loyalisty bond, even though that is probably how the whole thing started.

[Melv]

Us and Rangers have no fewer people hating them then any other team.

That's bollocks. In Scotland at least, the Old Firm are hated by the majority of the country. And Chelsea have replaced Man Utd as the most hated team in England, especially now Mourinho's gone.

[J]

Where are all the actual Rangers fans? DavidUK etc? They have just soundly beaten us in an Old Firm game yet not one of them has posted anything! Are they having trouble finding this thread since the sub-forum has been made?

[Melv]

This thread's been long dead mate. Scottish football is dead here.

[J]

Aye fair enough, I guess its off to the Celtic forums to read about how Strachen should be sacked, half our players shot or sold and everyone is the press is out to get us!

*sighs*

[wardy]

Us and Rangers have no fewer people hating them then any other team.
:lol:

That has to be the most incorrect post I have ever seen.

In fact, and you probably (don't) know this: Aberdeen, the third biggest club in the country, hate Rangers almost as much as we do.

Maybe if, I don't know, you were an actual Rangers fan; you'd realise that the rest of Scotland hates you. Most huns are proud of the fact, and here's you denying it. That is not going to go down well at the next UVF meeting you attend. Let me tell you!

And I won't even start about Chelsea, you know as much as I do how much you're hated. Just ask around these boards.

[Andy]

Terrible. Kenny gonna get the sack?

Doubt it. The club's in a state. All the players still on SPL wages and loads of them are fucking old and on their last year of their contract and couldn't give a fuck. Horrible mess.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

:lol:

That has to be the most incorrect post I have ever seen.

In fact, and you probably (don't) know this: Aberdeen, the third biggest club in the country, hate Rangers almost as much as we do.

Maybe if, I don't know, you were an actual Rangers fan; you'd realise that the rest of Scotland hates you. Most huns are proud of the fact, and here's you denying it. That is not going to go down well at the next UVF meeting you attend. Let me tell you!

And I won't even start about Chelsea, you know as much as I do how much you're hated. Just ask around these boards.

Dunno if he just phrased it wrong, but what EDF actually said was 'we've got no less people hating us than any other team'; i.e. we're hated as much as anyone. However, I'm sure he just fucked up and meant it the other way round.

[wardy]

That's not what he meant. He was trying to say that Rangers and Chelsea are hated just as much as everyone else when they're not. They are 2 of the most hated clubs in their respective leagues.

[RomulusWolfe]

Celtic are hated as much as Rangers are in Scotland, envy leads to hatred - Everyone hates the Old-Firm, purely because we're better than everyone else, we always have been generally, and we always will be. Disregarding the Aberdeen fans that seem to revel in hating us, (not that we're saints or anything), Rangers aren't hated anymore than Celtic are. Rangers fans who like to think that are morons. (In fact, most Old-Firms seem to be completely void of intelligent thought whatsoever.)

[Fulham Road Supporter]

:lol:

That has to be the most incorrect post I have ever seen.

In fact, and you probably (don't) know this: Aberdeen, the third biggest club in the country, hate Rangers almost as much as we do.

Maybe if, I don't know, you were an actual Rangers fan; you'd realise that the rest of Scotland hates you. Most huns are proud of the fact, and here's you denying it. That is not going to go down well at the next UVF meeting you attend. Let me tell you!

And I won't even start about Chelsea, you know as much as I do how much you're hated. Just ask around these boards.

The hated thing was badly phrased, I meant for teams on their sort of level, so for Chelsea the likes of United and Liverpool, and for Rangers probably just Celtic. But I don't think either team stands out as being the most hated team in their country without their being others right up there.

And people on the boards might not like Chelsea now but when was this ever true before Roman came? The bond with Rangers has been going on decades when maybe people didn't like the headhunters etc but back then we were still probably hated no more then others, so the bond wouldn't be based on that. And do these fans really hate us or do they just enjoy seeing us lose because we spend alot of money?

Most fans love to think everyone hates them, no one really enjoys being liked by others and it's a good thing to say about yourself 'Oh no one likes us it's great, we're different and proud of it', it's a stupid term that fans will band about as they think it makes them sound good, and as much as I would love for everyone to hate Chelsea, barely anyone does, and barely anyone cared five years ago. Our biggest rivals are Spurs and West Ham, and they hate Arsenal and Milwall respectively more then they hate us. I think Liverpool and United will always be the most supported clubs in England, but also the most hated clubs in England, and that we are nowhere close to either of those.

As for UVF stuff, I don't even know what UVF stands for and I cannot be fucked to look it up, when it comes to football I do not care about the UVF or IRA shit, I do not care about Proddy's and Catholics, when it comes to football none of that interests me in the very slightest, when I have time I will look into it alot more but not for footballing reasons. Religion and football are seperate to me.


That's bollocks. In Scotland at least, the Old Firm are hated by the majority of the country. And Chelsea have replaced Man Utd as the most hated team in England, especially now Mourinho's gone.

No, we haven't, not that in this arguement it matters with relation to what I said as I am talking about from when our Blues Brothers bond started and that the 'Everyone hates us' wasn't true back then. But United will always be passionately hated by more fans, people want to see us lose and people don't like us at the moment, but United and Liverpool will definitely definitely always be more passionately and genuinely hated then Chelsea.

[Hobbit]

Fucking class result for the Rangers tonight :yes:

Shame they'll get utterly murdered in Spain.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

McGregor was given shit all to do in goal. Messi, Henry and Gudjohnsen were doing nothing all game, Goofy fucked up two good free kicks, was unlucky with the one that hit the bar, and a handball shout but other then that he was barely up to much either.

Was embarrassing to see mighty Barca knocking it about and playing for a draw at the end. Also a really clutching at straws penalty shout at the end of the match from them too.

I hope that people that watched United and Arsenal instead don't just look at possession and shots at goal when deciding who was the better team today, because it is hugely misleading. Neither side deserved to win, a draw was a fair result. Barca just couldn't break the defence down and get any clear cut oppertunities.

If Deco and Eto'o are out, and Gudjohnsen starts then they won't get utterly murdered. Should get through the group now though, should get a result against Lyon or Stuttgart.

[Melv]

I reckon Rangers will beat Lyon at home, so a point away to Stuttgart will probably be enough.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

I don't want to say that if Rangers can beat Lyon 3-0 in France, and Lyon beat Stuttgart 2-0 in Germany that Rangers should do well because it's a stupid statement to make, but they must be brimming with confidence right now.

I reckon they will do Lyon at home too, but it's gunna be a fucking tough match, Lyon know they pretty much HAVE to win at Ibrox, if they beat Stuttgart then Stuttgart only have a small chance of the UEFA cup to play for, so Rangers have them for the taking. I hope it doesn't come down to that last Lyon match.

[Melv]

Rangers won't lose to Lyon at home. Point at worst. Stuttgart away will be a tough one though. Can't expect them to take anything at the Nou Camp either.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

When it comes to that game, Lyon know what they need to do. Rangers could have easily drawn with Stuttgart at home, altohugh I don't think it will happen I still wouldn't write off Lyon beating them at Ibrox.

[Friday]

A draw against Lyon will probably be enough, unless Lyon beat Barcelona. We are through. There is no way that we are going to fuck it up now.

[wardy]

I don't even know what UVF stands for
Of course you do, it's the first thing they ask you on the application form.

[Badger]

Very good game between Benfica and the Celts tonight, lovely open play.

Ultimately Benfica deserved it, though Boruc had a great game.

[Slare]

For some strange reason, Celtic were intent on playing long balls rather than trying to hold onto the ball in the last 15 minutes and taking the point.

[wardy]

Well done to Rangers the other night, they were very well organised and defended brilliantly. If only we could've managed to be half as good last night.

Benfica were all over us and they deserved to win. Caldwell needs to get to fuck, as does Sno, I mean who the fuck is this Sno character anyway? Jesus Christ, he is not a footballer. You could almost hear the Celtic fans groan as he came on. McDonald should've started, Killen was useless; John Kennedy was attacking better than him for fucksake.

[Curly Toe]

Never a fucking 3-0!!!

[Badger]

Fuck, how in the hell did Hamilton get so good? :(

Surely they can't keep up this run forever.

[Curly Toe]

Surely Stephen Kenny won't survive now.

[Andy]

I dunno... :(

[wardy]

Well done Rangers. :lol:

[Badger]

United are really becoming a bogey team for them.

[Slare]

To be fair to United, they have been terrific at tannadice this year.

I would honestly love to see some sort of challenge from them or Hibs, its just bloody frustrating that Hibs can beat us and rangers, then play like sunday league cunts against St. Mirren.

[Curly Toe]

Aberdeen vs Rangers
Dundee Utd vs Hearts

Or is it?

Seems they've made an arse of the draw by reading out the wrong names for each number and it's actually:

Aberdeen vs Dundee Utd
Hearts vs Rangers

What an absolute shambles.

Confirmed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7072638.stm

[Melv]

Eddie Thompson is just being a cock about it though:


But Dundee United chairman Eddie Thompson is furious with the mistake.

Thompson told BBC Sport: "It's a total farce. I've spent four hours on the phone with Hearts arranging when the game would be played, where the game would be played and so on.

Four hours trying to organise a date/venue? He must speak slow as fuck.

[Curly Toe]

Yeah, considering there's only two nights it can be played and all four clubs would have to agree.

I think Aberdeen/Utd will be at Easter Road so that won't be too bad, although I'd rather play it at Tynecastle.

[Badger]

Oh the Sainties 3-2!
Oh the Sainties 3-2!
Oh the Sainties 3-2!
OH SAINTIES WE LOVE YOU!

[wardy]

Who?

[Badger]

The current holders of the Challenge Cup that has absolutely zero meaning but it's our first-ever national trophy so we love it anyway i.e St Johnstone.

[J]

Nice win on Saturday, McGeady continuing his great form. A good outlook heading into the game on Wednesday though Shaktar are a good team. Think both Rangers and Celtic could do well this week, though if Aberdeen play like they did on Saturday then they have no chance on Thursday!

[Badger]

Celtic were VERY fortunate there. Outplayed for the majority and a rough game with a ton of injuries.

Wonder why the hell they showed this on Sky One?

[wardy]

HAVE SOME OF THAT!!!

[Badger]

Milan away will be a tough prospect though, especially considering Celtic have the worst European away record in the history of......ever.

Better hope Shakhtar slip up.

[Slare]

Was at the game tonight. We were made to look very average at points.

Ive been a season ticket holder for over ten years, and that is honestly the loudest sustained roar ive ever heard when the fulltime whistle went.

[wardy]

They were fucking shit in the second half. If Brown, McDonald and Vennegoor had performed for the whole game wed've coasted it. No idea how Jarosik missed that header. What a spastic.

[UK Blue]

Great finish for the first though. I thought Jarosik looked like a decent player when he was at Birmingham, but I have no idea how he's doing at Celtic.

I think Shakhtar will still get through, unfortunatly. Hope I'm wrong.

[wardy]

Jarosik's been in and out of the team, and for the time that he was in last season he played like a wanker. Although, he did score a couple of goals, one against Copenhagen away I think.

He just seemed to appear out of nowhere this season and is starting to hit a decent run of form.

[ruudjase]

Great to see both sides of Glasgow with real good chances of qualifying for the next round, Think the mighty Gers should do it against Lyon, Celtic have got the tougher task, having to draw in Milan but Milan only need a draw themselves to win the group so I reckon you Bhoys have a good chance too!

How far can Rangers and Celtic both go?

I really think Scottish football is on the up!

On the Scotland manager front, I reckon Gary McAllister would be the best choice, great motivator, could do well for you. I know it will never happen but id love it if you got McClaren!!! haha,

[wardy]

Gary McAllister can fuck off. Craig Levein is the only man for this job.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

George Burley's probably looking for a new place of work at the moment.

[Badger]

I don't think McAllister will ever be forgiven for that penalty miss.

[Melv]

That was Uri Geller's fault.

[Badger]

Stadiums should be made a no-fly zone for helicopters.

[UK Blue]

Joe Jordan has always impressed me with his insight into games. He's a very intelligent guy. He'd do a good job I reckon.

I hope Souness gets it.

[Melv]

I don't. Souness is a cunt.

[ruudjase]

Yeah Souness is shit, as an Ipswich man Id have to recommend George Burley, Great manager hasnt had all the luck as of late with the saints but done well with both us and derby.

As for Craig Lavein I dont know about him, He didnt do too well at Leicester,

Billy Davies is a great manager,

Why is there so many more decent scottish managers than there is english??

by the with a name like McClaren he must have some scottish in him!

[wardy]

Gay.

[Badger]

Saints coming back from 2-0 down to draw against Partick was amazing though we probably didn't deserve it. We'll miss Kenny Deuchar when he goes.

Scumdee to win Div 1 this year, I think Hamilton will run out of steam at some point.

[Andy]

Kenny's gone. Not sure what to think really, especially when McIntyre's been put in charge for now. :dunno:

PARZ 4 PROMOTION

[Melv]

Next season: Brechin 4-0 Dunfermline.

[Andy]

I won't lie, it's a distict possibility. :cry:

[wardy]

BENFICA!!!

We were absolutely dreadful, comical at times. But we're through, and the pressure's now on Rangers who're going to fuck it up against Lyon. I can just smell it now.

[Badger]

:lol:

Another glorious failure, only this time it's Rangers not Celtic.

It was bound to happen after that Darcheville miss. Now he's been redcarded too.

[Slare]

Quite gutting for the Huns.

Was a shame to watch, Heroic defending (after a cock-up) and a brilliant Ferguson effort, then Darcheville.

I felt a bit sorry for them, then I realised who it was, and laughed.
Then laughed a lot more five minutes later.
Then a lot more a few minutes after.

I then had a final hearty chuckly as the final whistle went.

[Melv]

Darcheville :lol:

Lost the plot.

[Smell It?]

As much as I wanted them to lose, they did surpass all expectations in even bringing it to the last day. Terribly hard group. Were never going to get out of it on paper and did vert well to even push it so far.

Happy Christmas.

[wardy]

Well done Rangers, we can always rely on you. :lol:

[Smell It?]

Now, now Wardy. This is not very festive.

[wardy]

Huns don't even believe in Christmas anyway.

[Friday]

I am still gutted about Wednesday night. Getting to the last 16 of the Champions League is better than winning the UEFA Cup. You can quote me on that when we do win the UEFA Cup.

Daniel Cousin should never play for the club again. I think he wanted to be anywhere else on the planet rather than Ibrox on Wednesday. He was a disgrace. At least the Darch was clearly hurting at full time. Cousin couldn't give a fuck. Good riddance in January.

Whittacker is not a midfielder. Play him at left back until Steven Smith gets back to full fitness. He is only good enough to be a squad player, even though we spent decent money on him.

Hemdani is away in January. The guy is quality, but we don't really need him in the SPL. Give Thomson more responsibility. He was blown hot and cold so far, but I think with a bit more experience, he could be one of our star players.

Weir is past it. He is good in the air, but struggles against pace. Hopefulyl Webster can get fit for more than five minutes, because he would be a good replacement.

A striker is needed in January. Cousin is away, obviously. I would maybe get rid of Boyd. I am not sure what to make of Boyd. But if we got a decent bid for him, I would get rid. Spend the money that we get for Burke, Buffel, Hemdani, Cousin and Boyd on a top class stiker. Push the boat out on one signing that will get us excited about. If we win the League, then this season will still be a success.

[Smell It?]

What a surprise? We drop the dickheads, bring back the man aka Bobo Balde and keep a clean sheet! WOOOOOOOOOOOO. Bobo is back. :heart: him.

[Melv]

I told Friday before kick off that Balde would be man of the match.

I love the big bald bastard.

[wardy]

Just watch him knock us out of Europe.

[Smell It?]

Shut up you. He's better than those other two roots put together.

[Slare]

Balde had a solid match, ill give him that, but Naylor (suprisingly) put in a great shift.
He was only playing to get himself in the shop window though, he'll be gone by mid january.

[RRG]

A striker is needed in January. Cousin is away, obviously. I would maybe get rid of Boyd. I am not sure what to make of Boyd. But if we got a decent bid for him, I would get rid. Spend the money that we get for Burke, Buffel, Hemdani, Cousin and Boyd on a top class stiker. Push the boat out on one signing that will get us excited about. If we win the League, then this season will still be a success.

We shouldn't let Buffel go without a chance for him to prove himself, apparentley he has been great for the reserve team and he has a chance to provide something that Rangers completely lack through the middle, which is any creativity what so ever. If we sell him I can't see us finding anyone who provides that for the amount of money we'd be willing to spend. Last time he got a run in the team he was dissapointing but he suffered from the Rangers curse of an attacking player where you are often shoved out wide despite it clearly not being your best position.

In the game against Lyon the midfielders asked to push up more through the middle were Ferguson and McCulloch, neither of which, no matter how much Scotsport or the Record tell us, have any creativity or attacking prowess whatsoever. "Breaking the glass" to push Ferguson up front only makes a difference in the sense of what third of the pitch he's trying to hog the ball and do absolutely nothing with possession in.

I agree about Cousin, he needs to fuck off, even if he proves himself in anyway now his complete lack of effort in alot of important games should tell the manager enough.

I'd cash in on Hutton now, we could get 8 million for him. That could completely rebuild Rangers. The one bad thing is that Smith should not be trusted with 8 million as he'd spend it on Jay Mceveley, Gary Teale, Graeme Murty, Kenny Miller, Christian Daily and then one foreigner nobody has ever heard of but has an accessible agent.

[wardy]

Balde had a solid match, ill give him that, but Naylor (suprisingly) put in a great shift.
He was only playing to get himself in the shop window though, he'll be gone by mid january.
How is that surprising? Naylor is great you tit. Was our player of the year last season and only suffered a bad run of form this year because of domestic problems.

[1_Pablo_Angel]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/7164150.stm

Motherwell skipper collapses and dies on the pitch. Shit. :(

[Melv]

Shit, that's horrible news.

[Badger]

Weird coincidence it had to be against United.

Back when Paul Sturrock was manager of Saints he collapsed when they played United.

[Manicss]

Played for 4 years at Wednesday. Was going to be a great signing if not for all the injury problems he had.

Massive shame.

[Smell It?]

Old Firm on Weds has been postponed.

R.I.P Phil O Donnell.

[DavidUK]

Was just about to say the same thing - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/7165976.stm

R.I.P Phil.

[Smell It?]

WOAH! Where have you been or do you only come round when Rangers are about to go top of the league? :D

[DavidUK]

Yep, I pick my moments :D

Just thought I'd make sure everyone knew about the match being postponed.

[wardy]

You been to the Arches yet old boy? Fucking quality night on Thursday there.

[DavidUK]

Nah not yet mate.

I think one of my mates was there on Thursday though, funnily enough.

[RRG]

You been to the Arches yet old boy? Fucking quality night on Thursday there.

I went once when it was Octopussy, it was a emotional rollercoaster, my heart lifted when I saw the bouncy castle then my heart dropped when I saw all the potential disease in the pool. The my heart lifted when I got really drunk, then it dropped again when my mate got punched in the face.

[Smell It?]

ahahahahaaha

[wardy]

Turns out I'm going again tonight. Get on it lads. That includes you, Smell It?

[Slare]

Im actually going to be there too...

Ill be the guy having sex on the dancefloor.
Dont get too near me or you might be VICTIM NUMBER 1 OF 2008.

[Simon]

Scots are very fighty aren't they.

[Smell It?]

I'm surprised someone with inside information didn't tell you that.

[turdpower]

Plesently suprised to see Fulham 1-0 up.

Martin Tyler just said they've dropped 19 points from winning positions. Oh well.

[Smell It?]

huh?

[Badger]

Dundee United 4-1 Hearts with 3 Hearts sendings-off.

:lol:

[DavidUK]

Hearts are a joke of a club. Their indiscipline is ridiculous.

I'd LOVE to see them relegated.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

I can't believe they don't just get a proper manager back and get rid of all these Eastern Europeans. They were giving Rangers and Celtic at least abit of a run for their money under Rix and Burley.

Surely Romanov can't be happier not generating money but having all his mates there.

[DavidUK]

It would never have amounted to anything under either Rix or Burley. They had a purple patch of a season, that was it.

Of course, they were and still would be better with one of the above in charge, especially Burley. The amount of Lithuanians etc. in their team is actually unbelievable - there's a new player on their team sheet every week that nobody has ever heard of.

And no "proper manager" in his right mind would work for Romanov, it's degrading.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

Yeah I don't deny it would have never amounted to winning anything, but at least they were up there causing problems. Don't they usually field five or six of the bastards? Thats half a fucking team.

Good to see that open letters from the Hearts Supporters Club about how embarrassing it was and being mocked at work etc etc had been taken into consideration.

[DavidUK]

http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/SeniorSquad/0,,10289,00.html

The Hearts squad list.

[Fulham Road Supporter]

I can't pronounce most of them, they'll need a Lithuanian announcer soon.

[Andy]

Hearts down to 10 men again. :lol:

[Badger]

I feel sorry for them as I really want them to do well just so someone can step up to the Old Firm. At one point it looked last season it looked that way then it just went to pieces. Hibs looked promising at first too this season, but they've gone downhill recently.

[DavidUK]

That's the thing - nobody will step up to Rangers' and Celtic's level.

No other team has the consistency. They can have a wonderful run of form, they can win several games in a row, whatever. It doesn't really mean much because Rangers and Celtic are also doing this.

It will have to be something special - win maches consistently AND beat Rangers and Celtic more often. It's not going to happen.

Hearts had that wonder season, perhaps you could say that, but then what? Since then they have fallen back down to their usual standard. No consistency.

[RomulusWolfe]

God they are truly a joke club. It's not worth laughing about anymore, Hearts are just sad.

Hopefully Rangers can win all their games this month, because it'll give us a great advantage over Celtic, and I trust Smith to keep in the lead once we're there.

Kris Boyd missed a penalty today though, and he might well be off. Heard a rumour we're getting Billy Mehmet, who the hell is he?! Ezequerro and Dalla Bona too. Not exactly filling me with confidence. :wtf:

Cousin can piss right off. He'll be lucky to score more than twice down south.

Celtic have confirmed the signing of Hinkel apparentily. Great signing.

[Smell It?]

Did he not play for St Mirren?

[Badger]

That's the thing - nobody will step up to Rangers' and Celtic's level.

No other team has the consistency. They can have a wonderful run of form, they can win several games in a row, whatever. It doesn't really mean much because Rangers and Celtic are also doing this.

It will have to be something special - win maches consistently AND beat Rangers and Celtic more often. It's not going to happen.

Hearts had that wonder season, perhaps you could say that, but then what? Since then they have fallen back down to their usual standard. No consistency.

At the moment, Motherwell are the best bet, but no I can't see it happening. Consistency definitely is the key as well as the ability to still grind out results despite playing crap.

Maybe if nearly every St Johnstone match was a win instead of a DRAW (though they did win today), we could get the glory days of 98-99 again. :happysad:

[wardy]

Billy Mehmet played for Dunfermline or some other pub team a few years back.

[Melv]

Mehmet is truly shit.

[wardy]

At the moment, Motherwell are the best bet, but no I can't see it happening. Consistency definitely is the key as well as the ability to still grind out results despite playing crap.

Maybe if nearly every St Johnstone match was a win instead of a DRAW (though they did win today), we could get the glory days of 99-00 again. :happysad:
Nah I'd say that consistency is the last thing you want and that you want the ability to lose matches while playing really well.

[DavidUK]

Billy Mehment plays for St. Mirren and there's talk that he's coming in. It's all leading to even more doubt about Boyd's future.

:(

[Friday]

Are you a bunch of idiots? Billy Mehmet is not signing for Rangers. He can barely get into the St. Mirren side.

[RomulusWolfe]

Billy Mehment plays for St. Mirren and there's talk that he's coming in. It's all leading to even more doubt about Boyd's future.

:(

:( Remember when Smith was all ambitious and was getting in the likes of Laudrup and Gascoigne? I miss that guy.

EDIT: That rumour's been around for a bit though. And I wouldn't put it past Smith.

[Badger]

Nah I'd say that consistency is the last thing you want and that you want the ability to lose matches while playing really well.

We have that already except replace the word 'lose' with 'draw.'

[DavidUK]

Are you a bunch of idiots? Billy Mehmet is not signing for Rangers. He can barely get into the St. Mirren side.

Never heard of a stop-gap signing? Does Alan Gow ring a bell?

Boyd and Cousin may be on their way out of the door. We would need some sort of backup.

Nobody is suggesting that Mehmet is going to sign for Rangers, but believe me, there has been word around here about him coming for a while now.

[Melv]

Mehmet is one of the worst players I've ever seen. I wouldn't take him at Brechin. There's no way he's signing for Rangers.

[wardy]

i don't think word doesn't travel very quickly up to Brechin/The Highlands/Never never land.

[Melv]

i don't think word doesn't travel very quickly up to Brechin/The Highlands/Never never land.
Nice double negative there dickhead.

[Friday]

Never heard of a stop-gap signing? Does Alan Gow ring a bell?

Boyd and Cousin may be on their way out of the door. We would need some sort of backup.

Nobody is suggesting that Mehmet is going to sign for Rangers, but believe me, there has been word around here about him coming for a while now.

How the fuck is Alan Gow a stop-gap signing? He is a million times better than Billy Mehmet and has potential.

Somebody is taking the piss out of you.

[DavidUK]

How the fuck is Alan Gow a stop-gap signing? He is a million times better than Billy Mehmet and has potential.

Somebody is taking the piss out of you.

I wasn't suggesting Gow was merely a stop-gap signing, moreso that he isn't good enough and signed for Rangers when it was being touted for weeks beforehand. Like the Mehmet situation.

And nobody has said any word to me directly about Mehmet, so don't worry, nobody is taking the piss out of me. It's all over the FollowFollow forums, people were talking about it at the Motherwell match on Boxing Day, and it's been going about on the supporters bus I use.

Again, I'm not saying he is going to sign. It's just what I and a lot of other people have been hearing for a while now.

[Melv]

if Mehmet signs for Rangers I will streak at a Brechin match.

[DavidUK]

So brave. Streaking in front of, what, 10 people? ;)

[Melv]

Still more than there would be at Ibrox 5 minutes before full time.

[DavidUK]

1) That doesn't make Brechin's attendance any less embarassing.

2). It's not true.

[Andy]

Billy Mehmet played for Dunfermline or some other pub team a few years back.

:mad:

[wardy]

Anything.
:zzz:

[RRG]

Never heard of a stop-gap signing? Does Alan Gow ring a bell?

Boyd and Cousin may be on their way out of the door. We would need some sort of backup.

Nobody is suggesting that Mehmet is going to sign for Rangers, but believe me, there has been word around here about him coming for a while now.

How is Alan Gow in any way a stop gap signing. Alan Gow was not picked up to fill a gap but instead quite the opposite, a luxury, that a team like Rangers can afford to groom for a while. A stop gap signing would be somebody like when Rangers signed Mark Hately for that Celtic game, or when we signed Karl Cort, or when Man U signed Henrik Larsson, or when Rangers signed Ugo Eggyegioguoeguegugeog.


I wouldn't say he isn't good enough to sign for Rangers, he was quality for Falkirk last year, he has also been brilliant for Rangers in reserve games. I think he has been unfortunate with Naismith signing. But I think if we played our "sexy spl 4-5-1/4-3-3 hybrid, he would be far better on the left than McCulloch. He'd be far better on the left than McCulloch if we played plain old 4-5-1 aswell....or if we played 4-4-2....or 4-3-3 ......or 1-1-8.

[DavidUK]

As I've already said, I didn't mean Alan Gow was a stop gap signing, I was using him as a comparison to if we were to sign Mehmet; a player who is not really Rangers quality, who nobody believed we would sign.

[wardy]

Lets put it this way. They're both wankers.

[RRG]

As I've already said, I didn't mean Alan Gow was a stop gap signing, I was using him as a comparison to if we were to sign Mehmet; a player who is not really Rangers quality, who nobody believed we would sign.

Rangers quality is a myth, Smith gets away with signing people who aren't "Rangers quality" as long as they are Scottish. Le Guen and Advocaat both got crucified for alot of their signings because the majority of their signings were foreign. Either way, for every decent signing Rangers make, the myth of their being a "Rangers quality" has been eroded consistentley by constant settling for average players or moves which are completely baffling.

[DavidUK]

Ibrox to overgo a £700m overhaul, which will include a "floating pitch."

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/01/06/rangers-s-secret-700m-blueprint-for-ibrox-78057-20275903/

[RRG]

Ibrox to overgo a £700m overhaul, which will include a "floating pitch."

http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/01/06/rangers-s-secret-700m-blueprint-for-ibrox-78057-20275903/

I'm impressed by this, but pretty annoyed at the lack of ambition by the apparent "united Rangers support". This might be complete Daily Ranger propoganda attempting to assume what they believe will be the general tone of Rangers fans. But I think Rangers has to be willing to accept a bit of evolution sometimes, changing the name is maybe not appealing, but a neccessary evil if we want to financially compete with a new stadium. The pros of an impressive new stadium surely outway the cons of losing the Ibrox name.

[Melv]

I'm impressed by this, but pretty annoyed at the lack of ambition by the apparent "united Rangers support". This might be complete Daily Ranger propoganda attempting to assume what they believe will be the general tone of Rangers fans. But I think Rangers has to be willing to accept a bit of evolution sometimes, changing the name is maybe not appealing, but a neccessary evil if we want to financially compete with a new stadium. The pros of an impressive new stadium surely outway the cons of losing the Ibrox name.
The fans will still call it Ibrox anyway.

[RRG]

The fans will still call it Ibrox anyway.

Another reason why a name change matters very little.

[DavidUK]

There was more detail in the papers today:

Their going to have the "village effect" like at Stamford Bridge - there's going to be hotels, restaraunts and apartments around the stadium. There is talk about trying to incorporate the old casino idea , which we didn't get last time, into it. A casino like the one built in Manchester would be built at the stadium.

It will have a retractable roof and removable floating pitch with next generation undersoil heating. The stands in which the fans sit will all be indivdually heated and a lot of emphasis is to be placed on fan comfort. Matches will NEVER be called off.

Ibrox will be able to play host to four times as many concerts as it does now and at a much higher level seeing as the pitch can be removed. It will become a six star stadium :D

The whole idea is set to earn Rangers multi-millions more each season. The old red brick facade will remain in place.

[Melv]

Looks like Rangers are really pushing the boat out if all this goes ahead. Well done to them, I suppose.

[RRG]

Looks like Rangers are really pushing the boat out if all this goes ahead. Well done to them, I suppose.

Must be a bit of a pisser that all this is overshadowing the news that Brechin are installing indoor toilets.

[Melv]

Must be a bit of a pisser that all this is overshadowing the news that Brechin are installing indoor toilets.
Brechin have decent toilets actually, although we still do have outdoor 'bus shelter' toilets for those who want to feel manly.

[DavidUK]

The Old Firm game has been scheduled for Wednesday 23rd of January, incase anyone doesn't know. Wednesday night.

Although if either Rangers or Celtic have to play a replay against East Stirling or Stirling Albion in the Scottish Cup then that match will take priority.

[RomulusWolfe]

The Old Firm game has been scheduled for Wednesday 23rd of January, incase anyone doesn't know. Wednesday night.

Although if either Rangers or Celtic have to play a replay against East Stirling or Stirling Albion in the Scottish Cup then that match will take priority.

Celtic will probably draw on purpose tomorrow.

[Badger]

Well they didn't.

On another note, next week (weather permitting) I'll be seeing Blairgowrie Juniors play former league team Clydebank. Should be a cracker.

[wardy]

RANGERS ARE YOU WATCHING???

[Smell It?]

Watching what?

[Smell It?]

FFS, Rangers match postponed due to weather meaning the OLD FIRM is off next WEDS. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH.

[J]

Celtic will probably draw on purpose tomorrow.

Are you one of these people that believe Celtic asked for the game to be postponed on the second cause they where scared they would lose to Rangers?

[RomulusWolfe]

Are you one of these people that believe Celtic asked for the game to be postponed on the second cause they where scared they would lose to Rangers?

I was making fun of those people who believe that.

[Friday]

Are you one of these people that believe Celtic asked for the game to be postponed on the second cause they where scared they would lose to Rangers?

They used the situation to their advantage. They had suspensions and injuries.

[Smell It?]

Oh come on mate. It was the right thing to do.

[Friday]

Oh come on mate. It was the right thing to do.

It was obviously a tradegy and I don't want anyone to think that I am denying that. But I don't see the point in calling the game off. A minutes silence would have been fine.

Plus, Celtic was asked on Saturday night if the game should go ahead and they said yes. Then they realise that the likes of McManus were struggling to be fit, so they ask for the game to be called off.

[Badger]

It was daft how the Old Firm game got called off, yet Dundee United who were close to the tragedy were forced to play.

Typical Old Firm double standards there.

[Christopherson]

Oh come on mate. It was the right thing to do.

:yes:

[Christopherson]

Also lets take a minute here to inhale, it's at Parkhead the last time I checked the Tims where hardly shite at there own gaff.

[Badger]

If they were gonna call matches off, they should've called off the whole card.

[Christopherson]

I'm sorry but I don't talk to rodents.

[Christopherson]

Fuck me, why can't Celtic lose games they're supposed too.

Lucky bastards and please, no more conspiracy shouts, as you've basically used up your penalty lifes for the season.

[mj the kid]

When are Celtic playing this weekend?

Scotty Mac needs to come home and score some goals against some Qatarians or whatever they are called.

[DavidUK]

Saturday, away to Kilmarnock.

Strachan's been given a 4 match ban for that argument last year at Pittodrie :lol:

[Melv]

Looks like Brechin might be getting thrown out of the cup. It's a bloody complicated situation, probably easier to do a timeline:


22 September 07 - Brechin sign Willie Dyer from St Johnstone on loan.

15th December - Dyer returns to St Johnstone.

12th January - Hamilton 0-0 Brechin

18th January - Brechin sign Michael Paton, Willie Dyer re-joins on a permanent basis.

22nd January - Brechin P-P Hamilton.

28th January - Brechin 2-1 Hamilton. Hamilton lodge protest regarding eligibility of Michael Paton after the game.

30th January - Brechin ordered to replay the match on Saturday, also fined £10,000. Later on it emerges that Willie Dyer was also ineligible. SFA schedule second 'emergency' meeting for tomorrow.

SFA making a dog's dinner of things again. Massive fuck up by us in any case.

I think we'll be fined £20k instead of £10k, and have to play the game again. We'll then appeal, and have the fine reduced to the original £10k.

[DavidUK]

Where was the game in the next round against Aberdeen to be played? Glebe Park or Pittodrie?

[Melv]

Pittodrie.

[DavidUK]

Shame. That'd have been a good trip for you lot.

Anyway, this thread is fucking bollocks these days. Can't we come up with something, some sort of wee result-prediction competition or something?

It looks like it's going to be a good run-in this year, possibly to the very end again, yet this thread is nowhere near as active or interesting as it used to be.

[Melv]

I think Rangers are going to win the league by a decent distance.

Scottish football, Brechin aside, doesn't really interest me much anymore. it's all about the premiership.

[DavidUK]

:(

I genuinely do believe we'll take it this year. I was more confident, however, before Celtic made those signings yesterday.

They have pretty good depth to their squad, however weak the quality may be, which could be pivotal in where the title ends up.

[RRG]

:(

I genuinely do believe we'll take it this year. I was more confident, however, before Celtic made those signings yesterday.

They have pretty good depth to their squad, however weak the quality may be, which could be pivotal in where the title ends up.

You obviously missed the rumours about Christian Daily who will add infinite depth to the Rangers squad. Think ambition, think Glasgow Rangers.

The game tonight was a bit silly, I believe it was referee'd by a scarecrow. Rangers were their usual methodical slightly boring self , while Hearts were awful.

Whittaker certainly doesn't look like a 7 million drop off from Hutton.

I'd really like to see us signing Luke Moore rather than the Lafferty rumours, if Cousin leaves we need another striker as our surplus of striker belief is a mirage. I don't think Smith would or should ever be happy starting Boyd or Novo up front, Darcheville is still a bit unfit to be relied upon implicitly, Naismith is better at the moment in the 4-3-3, McCulloch playing upfront is about as inspiring as a big steamy poo and I think Smith thinks Alan Gow is a really keen ball boy. Luke Moore would provide us with another option aswell as being ambitious for the future. Bet Smith bids for Darren Jackson.

[DavidUK]

I wouldn't say Hearts were awful. Up until the second goal they weren't too bad - then they faded away.

I'm a Boyd fan so I'd be more than happy with him up front. As Nevin said today at half time - this game was made for Kris Boyd. If Boyd were to get his starting spot back, I'm not sure yet as how to partner him. Darcheville looks the part but I don't know how he and Boyd would go together - it might work well with Darcheville's pace and directness but until, or if, they get the chance to play together we'll never know.

Boyd and Naismith has worked before so that's always a shout.

[wardy]

The Hearts fans and Pat Nevin's reaction at half-time were priceless. He looked as if he was about to go mental.

Dunno what the ref was on to miss Ferguson's hand ball. In fact, Charlie Adam probably gave him some smack out of his personal stash.

[Andy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7215487.stm

Unlucky Melv. :lol:

[Melv]

Fucking joke, that's what it is.

[Andy]

ahahahahahahahahahahhaa

[Hobbit]

:lol:

[Smell It?]

ahahaahahaaha

[DavidUK]

:lol:

[The Rosk]

ahahahhahahahahaaaaha

[Curly Toe]

I was looking forward to the banter at the fence so much...

[Badger]

:lol:

[The Rosk]

Davis will do fucking well for Rangers, mark my words. Friday has a new hero.

[son_of_foley]

Shouldnt have gone to scotland. He's a premiership player and a fucking good one. He can play within himself up there and will get into the drinking culture. If you fuckers ruin him there will be trouble

[RRG]

I think Barry Ferguson taking the ball off him constantly will groom him into being the player he could be. I hope he left any nugget of creativity at the door before he signed.

[son_of_foley]

he wont take his shit. He doesnt take shit from any of the guys in the northern ireland team.

He's a brilliant player as shown by how bloody comfortable he is on the ball when playing against the likes of spain.

[wardy]

He'll fit in with the rest of the unwashed contingent.

Anyone read the the sun today with the bit about what schools all the footballers came from? St Andrew's Academy, my school, was in it. It was a footballing hotbed that nurtured the talent of the likes of Steve Clarke, Roy Aitken...and Jim Delahunt.

[Smell It?]

Jesus Christ we were brilliant today.

[wardy]

Quality. I know it was only Kilmarnock but Samaras just looks like he's going to be a star, if a bit rusty. Hopefully him coming in will give Vennegoor a kick up the arse.