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PMBR
April 15th, 2006, 7:59 AM
There has been a lot of debate between my friends and myself as to who the best wrestler to never win a World Title is. God knows that there are enough of the "add a point/subtract a point" games, so I will do this tournament style. 8 superstars, 3 rounds. This is done by voting and remember that you are voting based on criteria:

In ring ability
Promo ability
Drawing power
How deserving of a world title
How much contributed to the business

Here are the brackets for the first round:

Ted DiBiase
Scott Hall

British Bulldog
Rob Van Dam

Roddy Piper
Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart
Greg Valentine

Jimmy Snuka unfortunately held a world title in ECW. Tito Santana and Ricky Steamboat held NWA Heavyweight Championships. I don't agree with Greg Valentine being in this tournament, but honestly, I couldn't find 8 guys who beyond dispute deserve a world title and never got one.

Fanny Batter
April 15th, 2006, 8:05 AM
Interestingly enough, (at least) 3 of those 8 guys won the belt and had a Dusty Finish take it away from them.

FaSho34
April 15th, 2006, 2:13 PM
Ted DiBiase

Rob Van Dam

Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart

rWa
April 15th, 2006, 3:04 PM
Teddy Diabase
British Bulldog
Roddy Piper
Owen Hart

Slim Shady
April 15th, 2006, 3:17 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart

Sancty
April 15th, 2006, 4:06 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Rowdy Roddy Piper

Owen Hart

Brian M.
April 15th, 2006, 4:46 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart

Bad Collin
April 15th, 2006, 6:26 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart

CWM
April 15th, 2006, 6:51 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart

Sinner
April 15th, 2006, 7:34 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Roddy Piper

Owen Hart

darkhorse
April 15th, 2006, 8:37 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Roddy Piper

Owen Hart

Midgar
April 15th, 2006, 9:40 PM
Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart

Tha Kyd
April 15th, 2006, 9:59 PM
Ted DiBiase
Rob Van Dam
Piper
Owen Hart

Brian M.
April 15th, 2006, 10:06 PM
How is RVD better than Davey Boy fucking Smith? Honestly, that one is just as lopsided as Owen VS Greg Valentine.

Deka
April 15th, 2006, 10:16 PM
You just had to put Scott Hall up against Ted DiBiase, didn't you? I want to be unbiased here and then you have to go an make it extra hard.:squint:

Damn you, Paint! Damn you!

Scott Hall Ted DiBiase is my real choice

British Bulldog

Roddy Piper

Owen Hart

PMBR
April 16th, 2006, 6:13 AM
Special Tiebreaker - Sudden Death

Only 9 Votes Will Be Counted

First to 5 votes moves to the next round

Mr. Perfect
Rowdy Roddy Piper

Sancty
April 16th, 2006, 2:18 PM
Rowdy Roddy Piper

Delta
April 16th, 2006, 2:24 PM
Mr. Perfect

Defrost
April 16th, 2006, 2:34 PM
Perfect was AWA world champion.

bionic_redneck
April 16th, 2006, 2:44 PM
Rowdy Roddy Piper

Brian M.
April 16th, 2006, 6:00 PM
Mr. Perfect

CWM
April 16th, 2006, 6:27 PM
Mr. Perfect

Deka
April 16th, 2006, 7:19 PM
Rowdy Roddy Piper

PMBR
April 16th, 2006, 8:17 PM
eh... oversight.

PMBR
April 17th, 2006, 7:10 AM
SECOND ROUND

The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase
vs
The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith

Rowdy Roddy Piper
vs
The Black Hart Owen Hart

Tempest
April 17th, 2006, 7:11 AM
DiBiase

Piper

bionic_redneck
April 17th, 2006, 7:42 AM
Ted DiBiase

Roddy Piper

PMBR
April 17th, 2006, 7:46 AM
Ted DiBiase

Roddy Piper

JP
April 17th, 2006, 7:50 AM
Smith

Hart




*where in fuckery was Jake Roberts in the initial line-up? :mad:*

Chris Scott
April 17th, 2006, 10:18 AM
This would of been picks for the first round for me and I would of picked Mr Perfect over Piper.

Ted DiBiase

British Bulldog

Mr. Perfect

Owen Hart

Anyway next round picks

The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith

The Black Hart Owen Hart

Tempest
April 17th, 2006, 10:36 AM
Honestly, i'm unsure how anyone could choose Smith and Hart over DiBiase and Piper...

greebull
April 17th, 2006, 11:59 AM
Bulldog

Owen

400TH POST!!!!

Defrost
April 17th, 2006, 12:11 PM
DiBiase and Piper

FaSho34
April 17th, 2006, 4:24 PM
Hart and Bulldog

PMBR
April 18th, 2006, 7:50 AM
It is a tie on both of the pairings so I am going to mix the two matchups.

Ted Dibiase
vs
Owen Hart

Rowdy Roddy Piper
vs
The British Bulldog

bionic_redneck
April 18th, 2006, 8:28 AM
DiBiase

Piper

PMBR
April 18th, 2006, 8:36 AM
DiBiase

Piper

Cameron
April 18th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Ted Dibiase
The British Bulldog

Chris Scott
April 18th, 2006, 4:06 PM
Honestly, i'm unsure how anyone could choose Smith and Hart over DiBiase and Piper...


They were around alot when I became a huge wrestling fan, nothing aginst the other two though but it was a close call for me.

Deka
April 18th, 2006, 8:45 PM
Ted Dibiase

Rowdy Roddy Piper

FaSho34
April 18th, 2006, 9:14 PM
Hart
Bulldog

Myron Hardy
April 18th, 2006, 10:16 PM
Dibiase

Piper

Sancty
April 18th, 2006, 10:26 PM
Dibiase

Piper

Brian M.
April 19th, 2006, 1:06 AM
DiBiase

Piper

CWM
April 19th, 2006, 1:15 AM
DiBiase

Piper

PMBR
April 19th, 2006, 6:40 AM
The Best Wrestler To Never Win A World Title
FINALS

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/paintedredpromotions/DiBiasevsPiper.jpg

Tempest
April 19th, 2006, 6:42 AM
I'll go with Piper - Given how massive he was and what he did for pro wrestling, it's a crime that he never held the strap

PMBR
April 19th, 2006, 6:47 AM
My vote goes to Ted DiBiase.

Huge success as a singles star and in tag teams. One of the greatest managers of all time. Biggest heel in WWF on several occasions. Unlike Piper, he knew when his wrestling prime was over and he pulled himself out of the spotlight at the right time.

Defrost
April 19th, 2006, 7:07 AM
They were both great, but Piper was as big as Hogan back in the day. I go Piper.

Chris Scott
April 19th, 2006, 8:29 AM
My vote goes to Ted DiBiase.

Huge success as a singles star and in tag teams. One of the greatest managers of all time. Biggest heel in WWF on several occasions. Unlike Piper, he knew when his wrestling prime was over and he pulled himself out of the spotlight at the right time.

I second that, I go with Ted DiBiase but again it's a close one.

PMBR
April 20th, 2006, 10:21 AM
Come on guys. This is the finals. We can get at least 5 more votes in on this.

bionic_redneck
April 20th, 2006, 10:33 AM
Piper.

I love Dibiase, but Piper should have gotten at least one decent run. He's had great matches with Flair and Hogan yet he rarely got any credit.

Cameron
April 20th, 2006, 10:37 AM
DiBiase.

Deka
April 20th, 2006, 12:03 PM
This is extremely tough.

I think both of these guys were awesome, both played their parts well and deserved to be champion. Why neither of them ever got their opportunity I'll never understand. But, if I have to choose I'm going to have to go with Rowdy Roddy Piper.

While Dibiase was great, one of the best heels ever to do it, Piper played the heel or face roles to perfection. It never felt forced. Everytime he spoke, it never felt like he was "playing a character", you just knew he was just being the crazy S.O.B. that Piper really was (is...). Like others have said, Piper was extremely over back in the day. There were times when you just knew he should have held that title, but he would never get the chance. He had some great feuds with alot of the top dogs, and former champions in the business.

Yeah, I'm going with Piper on this one. Love Dibiase, he's one of my favorites. But, to deny Piper this one...I just can't do it.

The Wilf
April 20th, 2006, 6:03 PM
Piper

greebull
April 20th, 2006, 6:45 PM
Rowdy Roddy Piper is a legend. Dibiase is not.

Piper

PMBR
April 21st, 2006, 6:46 AM
Whoa there chief! Slow down. Did you just say that Ted DiBiase is not a legend?

greebull
April 28th, 2006, 1:40 AM
Whoa there chief! Slow down. Did you just say that Ted DiBiase is not a legend?

I do not consider him to be in Piper's league on the mic.

Brian M.
April 28th, 2006, 5:14 PM
That doesn't mean he's not a legend. Not many people are in Piper's league on the mic.

hithit
April 28th, 2006, 5:18 PM
Wow, this is a tough one to call.
Piper was argueably the greatest heel of all time, but Ted was about in that class as well.
Both of them were great in ring performers and both of them were great on the mic.
Since I have to vote i'm gonna go Piper.

FaSho34
April 28th, 2006, 5:29 PM
Piper... how did he beat Perfect?